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FamilyTreeDNA related questions #dna

Chaim Caran <chaimcaran@...>
 

For some reason the DNA FAQ for already answered questions is no longer to
be found at the written site, so I might repeat some questions.
In my researches about Frisian Jewry (The Netherlands) I found that two
Levite families with different familynames were most probably one and the
same family that took different familynames in napoleontic times. I got
permission >from male descendants >from both families to do a DNA check . I
ordered two sets of tests at FamilyTreeDNA for the Y chromosome test .
It appeared that the tests could only be sent to the test person himself
(although I payed) , and I saw no possibility in the order form to get the
test results as a researcher as well. I let the tests send to one of the
participants in Holland (I live in Israel) , who delivered it also to the
second person. They both send, after testing, the test to FamilyTreeDNA.
This all happened in November 2012. So far , non of us have received any
results . Is it normal that results come in only after more then two months
?
Because the two families have different names , they will not be identified
immediatly because of a similar family name , so I registerd them as
LEVY-FAMILY A-FAMILY B.
Only later I noticed that there are also special tests for checking related
families. I ordered only two seperate Y tests. When we get the results ,
will there be also the possibility to compare with other families like in
the family relate tests? Do the family relate test have also 2 sets in its
package ? Is the price of those packages for one set or for 2 sets?
The two supposed brothers who took different family names were born around
1730, 10-11 generations ago. In case they were indeed brothers , how much
difference because of mutations can be expected, and how can I see this in
the test results? How much should they have in common at least ?
Chaim Caran


DANNENBERG, Nechemia-Tel-Aviv 1930-1950? #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I recently received a document listing several people who were members of the
Charedi Association of Tel-Aviv sometime during the years 1930-1950. As the list
was handwritten, besides my grandfather's name, of the few other names legible was
a Nechemia Dannenberg (the list is in Hebrew so the english spelling may be
different). My interest in the Dannenberg family is that one of my wife's best
friends when she was single was a Naava Rabina, >from her maternal side a
Dannenberg,(connected to the Matzot manufacturers) and also >from Tel-Aviv.

I'd be happy to hear >from Nechemia DANNENBERG's family to know more about the above
association and to know what connection if any they have with Naava.

Thank you

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913 #romania

Logan Kleinwaks
 

I am pleased to announce that Bukovina is included in a business
directory (with Galicia) dated 1907-1913 that is now searchable and
viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is volume 19b of the
10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der
Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The
directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict
searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to
your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}).

The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section
(rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index
beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681.
The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to
which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image
number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with
the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do
not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image"
links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often
find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term
(with {d667}).

Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might
refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this
edition, and not the time period in which information was collected
for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of
publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is
not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other
editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is
not online.

This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for
its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on
Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the
images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I
am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


DNA Research #DNA FamilyTreeDNA related questions #dna

Chaim Caran <chaimcaran@...>
 

For some reason the DNA FAQ for already answered questions is no longer to
be found at the written site, so I might repeat some questions.
In my researches about Frisian Jewry (The Netherlands) I found that two
Levite families with different familynames were most probably one and the
same family that took different familynames in napoleontic times. I got
permission >from male descendants >from both families to do a DNA check . I
ordered two sets of tests at FamilyTreeDNA for the Y chromosome test .
It appeared that the tests could only be sent to the test person himself
(although I payed) , and I saw no possibility in the order form to get the
test results as a researcher as well. I let the tests send to one of the
participants in Holland (I live in Israel) , who delivered it also to the
second person. They both send, after testing, the test to FamilyTreeDNA.
This all happened in November 2012. So far , non of us have received any
results . Is it normal that results come in only after more then two months
?
Because the two families have different names , they will not be identified
immediatly because of a similar family name , so I registerd them as
LEVY-FAMILY A-FAMILY B.
Only later I noticed that there are also special tests for checking related
families. I ordered only two seperate Y tests. When we get the results ,
will there be also the possibility to compare with other families like in
the family relate tests? Do the family relate test have also 2 sets in its
package ? Is the price of those packages for one set or for 2 sets?
The two supposed brothers who took different family names were born around
1730, 10-11 generations ago. In case they were indeed brothers , how much
difference because of mutations can be expected, and how can I see this in
the test results? How much should they have in common at least ?
Chaim Caran


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DANNENBERG, Nechemia-Tel-Aviv 1930-1950? #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I recently received a document listing several people who were members of the
Charedi Association of Tel-Aviv sometime during the years 1930-1950. As the list
was handwritten, besides my grandfather's name, of the few other names legible was
a Nechemia Dannenberg (the list is in Hebrew so the english spelling may be
different). My interest in the Dannenberg family is that one of my wife's best
friends when she was single was a Naava Rabina, >from her maternal side a
Dannenberg,(connected to the Matzot manufacturers) and also >from Tel-Aviv.

I'd be happy to hear >from Nechemia DANNENBERG's family to know more about the above
association and to know what connection if any they have with Naava.

Thank you

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Romania SIG #Romania Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913 #romania

Logan Kleinwaks
 

I am pleased to announce that Bukovina is included in a business
directory (with Galicia) dated 1907-1913 that is now searchable and
viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is volume 19b of the
10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der
Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The
directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict
searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to
your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}).

The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section
(rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index
beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681.
The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to
which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image
number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with
the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do
not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image"
links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often
find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term
(with {d667}).

Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might
refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this
edition, and not the time period in which information was collected
for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of
publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is
not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other
editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is
not online.

This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for
its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on
Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the
images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I
am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913 #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business directory dated
1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is
volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der
Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is
included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding
other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667})

The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than
searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at
http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681. The numbers next to the town
names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately
the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image
number X with the URL
http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do not see your town,
go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the
page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name
as your search term (with {d667}).

Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the
range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time
period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know
more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please
contact me. It is not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other
editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is not online.

This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its
digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program
(http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor
does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be
grateful for this generous gift.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913 #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business directory dated
1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is
volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der
Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is
included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding
other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667})

The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than
searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at
http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681. The numbers next to the town
names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately
the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image
number X with the URL
http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do not see your town,
go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the
page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name
as your search term (with {d667}).

Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the
range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time
period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know
more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please
contact me. It is not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other
editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is not online.

This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its
digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program
(http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor
does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be
grateful for this generous gift.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Grodek Jagiellonski #galicia

Norman Zottenberg <nizottarch@...>
 

I am trying to find out information on my father's family. They were
from Grodek Jagiellonski, a town 16km southwest of Lviv. The name was
ZOTTENBERG. If anyone has any information, has run across the name
while researching Galicia, or knows of internet sites that have
information on the Jewish community of Grodek, I would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.

Thank you.

Norman Zottenberg
Vancouver, B.C.
nizottarch@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's sources for Gorodok Jagiellonski
include:
- a JewishGen Communities Database page --
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1039483
- a KehilaLinks page -- http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Gorodok/
- a translation of the yizkor book Sefer Grayding --
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/gorodok/gorodok.html
- the Ukraine Database --
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Ukraine/, which links to
JRI-Poland's numerous listings of ZOTTENBERG >from Grodek.
Plus be sure to also take advantage of one of JewishGen's most
important resources, the Family Finder --
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/, to list your ancestral surnames and
towns and to find other researchers with the same interests.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Grodek Jagiellonski #galicia

Norman Zottenberg <nizottarch@...>
 

I am trying to find out information on my father's family. They were
from Grodek Jagiellonski, a town 16km southwest of Lviv. The name was
ZOTTENBERG. If anyone has any information, has run across the name
while researching Galicia, or knows of internet sites that have
information on the Jewish community of Grodek, I would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.

Thank you.

Norman Zottenberg
Vancouver, B.C.
nizottarch@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's sources for Gorodok Jagiellonski
include:
- a JewishGen Communities Database page --
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1039483
- a KehilaLinks page -- http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Gorodok/
- a translation of the yizkor book Sefer Grayding --
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/gorodok/gorodok.html
- the Ukraine Database --
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Ukraine/, which links to
JRI-Poland's numerous listings of ZOTTENBERG >from Grodek.
Plus be sure to also take advantage of one of JewishGen's most
important resources, the Family Finder --
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/, to list your ancestral surnames and
towns and to find other researchers with the same interests.


Keynote Speaker Announced for Boston Conference #germany

Florence Schumacher, Boston 2013 Publicity Chair
 

Aaron Lansky, the founder and president of the Yiddish Book Center
in Amherst, MA, will be the keynote speaker at the 33rd IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Boston on August 4 -9.

Mr. Lansky is responsible for revitalizing the study of the Yiddish
language and motivating hundreds of young scholars to study and
teach Yiddish. He has saved over a million Yiddish books since he
started collecting them as a 23-year old graduate student in 1980.
His mission to rescue Yiddish literature earned him a MacArthur
Foundation "genius grant" in 1985.

By collecting books once destined for dumpsters, Mr. Lansky has
been able to establish or strengthen Yiddish collections at 700
libraries in 26 countries. With help >from Steven Spielberg, his
Yiddish Book Center has digitized most of its collection, including
many Yizkor books, and posted them online. The Center now sponsors
a range of educational and cultural programs that not only preserve
Yiddish culture of the past but also bring it to younger generations
for the future. Mr. Lansky has told the story of his lifelong work
in his best-selling book, "Outwitting History", which was awarded
the Massachusetts Book Award in Non-Fiction.

Mr. Lansky will speak at the opening plenary session on Sunday
evening, August 4th. He also will be available to meet with
attendees at a Breakfast with the Experts. A special bus tour to
the Yiddish Book Center will be offered during the conference.

Besides the keynote speaker, there will be 200 lectures, workshops
and demonstrations at the conference. Access to subscription
databases at no cost and help in translating documents will be
available in theResource Center. There also will be hands-on
computer workshops and an Exhibitors' Hall with the latest tools to
facilitate family history research. Over 1000 researchers, >from
beginners to experts, are expected to attend.

Register today at www.iajgs2013.org. An early bird discount is
available until April 30. Reservations for the conference hotel,
the historic Boston Park Plaza Hotel, also can be made at the same
conference website.

Florence Schumacher, Publicity Chair
IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy


German SIG #Germany Keynote Speaker Announced for Boston Conference #germany

Florence Schumacher, Boston 2013 Publicity Chair
 

Aaron Lansky, the founder and president of the Yiddish Book Center
in Amherst, MA, will be the keynote speaker at the 33rd IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Boston on August 4 -9.

Mr. Lansky is responsible for revitalizing the study of the Yiddish
language and motivating hundreds of young scholars to study and
teach Yiddish. He has saved over a million Yiddish books since he
started collecting them as a 23-year old graduate student in 1980.
His mission to rescue Yiddish literature earned him a MacArthur
Foundation "genius grant" in 1985.

By collecting books once destined for dumpsters, Mr. Lansky has
been able to establish or strengthen Yiddish collections at 700
libraries in 26 countries. With help >from Steven Spielberg, his
Yiddish Book Center has digitized most of its collection, including
many Yizkor books, and posted them online. The Center now sponsors
a range of educational and cultural programs that not only preserve
Yiddish culture of the past but also bring it to younger generations
for the future. Mr. Lansky has told the story of his lifelong work
in his best-selling book, "Outwitting History", which was awarded
the Massachusetts Book Award in Non-Fiction.

Mr. Lansky will speak at the opening plenary session on Sunday
evening, August 4th. He also will be available to meet with
attendees at a Breakfast with the Experts. A special bus tour to
the Yiddish Book Center will be offered during the conference.

Besides the keynote speaker, there will be 200 lectures, workshops
and demonstrations at the conference. Access to subscription
databases at no cost and help in translating documents will be
available in theResource Center. There also will be hands-on
computer workshops and an Exhibitors' Hall with the latest tools to
facilitate family history research. Over 1000 researchers, >from
beginners to experts, are expected to attend.

Register today at www.iajgs2013.org. An early bird discount is
available until April 30. Reservations for the conference hotel,
the historic Boston Park Plaza Hotel, also can be made at the same
conference website.

Florence Schumacher, Publicity Chair
IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy


Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1850: Hamburg to Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile & the USA #germany

Judith Elam
 

I ran across this very useful list. Here is the link.

http://tinyurl.com/by5ysol

Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1850: Hamburg to
Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile & the USA

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI elamj@hawaii.rr.com


German SIG #Germany Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1850: Hamburg to Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile & the USA #germany

Judith Elam
 

I ran across this very useful list. Here is the link.

http://tinyurl.com/by5ysol

Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1850: Hamburg to
Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile & the USA

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI elamj@hawaii.rr.com


New Kehilalink for Kedainiai #southafrica

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi All

I am pleased to advise that the new Kedainiai Kehilalink site on
JewishGen is now live:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kedainiai

Please check it out.
Be sure to see the Zalman Tzoref page with the trailer and other video clips.
I am keen to add pages with stories, photos of those with connections to Kedainiai.
Feel free to email me your story.

Examples can be found on my other kehilalink pages:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Jewels_%26_Ashes.html
and
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/nasielsk/Kurtz_Book.html


For further info, please contact me at eli@elirab.com

Feedback welcome.

Thanks and regards

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica New Kehilalink for Kedainiai #southafrica

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi All

I am pleased to advise that the new Kedainiai Kehilalink site on
JewishGen is now live:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kedainiai

Please check it out.
Be sure to see the Zalman Tzoref page with the trailer and other video clips.
I am keen to add pages with stories, photos of those with connections to Kedainiai.
Feel free to email me your story.

Examples can be found on my other kehilalink pages:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Jewels_%26_Ashes.html
and
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/nasielsk/Kurtz_Book.html


For further info, please contact me at eli@elirab.com

Feedback welcome.

Thanks and regards

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Re: River Prut #bessarabia

kdspiro@...
 

Re: River Prut
I have just read Marcel Glaskie's article Crossing the River Prut in
the Travel section. He says that
in the 19th century there was a great deal of horse rustling from
Bessarabia into Romania across
the Prut.

According to the family story, when our grandmother Rebecca Eisner and
her mother Sarah nee Hecht left Darabani for Canada in 1906, they
traveled on a donkey at night through a swamp and across the Prue to
save the exit visa fees. Smugglers would take people across the Prue
River cheaply because they could return with goods to sell.
Kathy Spiro
Smithers, BC
MOSCOWICZ, HECHT, EISNER, KLAR in Darabani area


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Re: River Prut #bessarabia

kdspiro@...
 

Re: River Prut
I have just read Marcel Glaskie's article Crossing the River Prut in
the Travel section. He says that
in the 19th century there was a great deal of horse rustling from
Bessarabia into Romania across
the Prut.

According to the family story, when our grandmother Rebecca Eisner and
her mother Sarah nee Hecht left Darabani for Canada in 1906, they
traveled on a donkey at night through a swamp and across the Prue to
save the exit visa fees. Smugglers would take people across the Prue
River cheaply because they could return with goods to sell.
Kathy Spiro
Smithers, BC
MOSCOWICZ, HECHT, EISNER, KLAR in Darabani area


Re: Request 1930 Census Details #general

Debby Gincig Painter
 

Thank you to those who were kind enough to help me with this request.
Answered a question and posed another! Thank you again for taking the
time to help me out.
Debby Painter
Michigan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Request 1930 Census Details #general

Debby Gincig Painter
 

Thank you to those who were kind enough to help me with this request.
Answered a question and posed another! Thank you again for taking the
time to help me out.
Debby Painter
Michigan

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