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Searching Dan Gostynski, near Zawichost #general

ada01@...
 

Shalom,

I wish to thank all who responded to my inquiry, regarding the
disappearance of Dan GOSTYNSKI >from Lodz, a baby of 2 years old,
delivered to a Polish farmer in 1942, at a village near Zawichost.

As a result of this query, I was contacted by Ted Gostin who has been
researching the GOSTYNSKI family for many years, to my great amazement
and future mutual cooperation.

In addition, I would specially like to thank David Gordon, who has
helped me in the past in other matters. He, not only directed me to
Zawichost, but also located with very high probability the village
Czyzow which is where "Dan was given to a Polish farmer who lived in
the first village on the right hand when you go >from Zawichost to
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in a distance of 2-3 miles >from Zawichost."

This might means a break through in the search which Leon GOSTYNSKI
has made for tens of years after his lost nephew, whom he never
stopped believing to be alive in Poland, under false identity.

Toda raba,

Ada Holtzman
Web site:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


Passenger List #general

mildred lester <sim-fie@...>
 

Need help. What is the earliest Passanger List? If your family came
here in the early 1800's or earlier where do you find this information.
Currently looking in NY.
Thank You
Mildred (Loffmin) Lester


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Dan Gostynski, near Zawichost #general

ada01@...
 

Shalom,

I wish to thank all who responded to my inquiry, regarding the
disappearance of Dan GOSTYNSKI >from Lodz, a baby of 2 years old,
delivered to a Polish farmer in 1942, at a village near Zawichost.

As a result of this query, I was contacted by Ted Gostin who has been
researching the GOSTYNSKI family for many years, to my great amazement
and future mutual cooperation.

In addition, I would specially like to thank David Gordon, who has
helped me in the past in other matters. He, not only directed me to
Zawichost, but also located with very high probability the village
Czyzow which is where "Dan was given to a Polish farmer who lived in
the first village on the right hand when you go >from Zawichost to
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in a distance of 2-3 miles >from Zawichost."

This might means a break through in the search which Leon GOSTYNSKI
has made for tens of years after his lost nephew, whom he never
stopped believing to be alive in Poland, under false identity.

Toda raba,

Ada Holtzman
Web site:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger List #general

mildred lester <sim-fie@...>
 

Need help. What is the earliest Passanger List? If your family came
here in the early 1800's or earlier where do you find this information.
Currently looking in NY.
Thank You
Mildred (Loffmin) Lester


Where are the vital records? #galicia

The2thdkdr@...
 

I recently began researching my maternal, grandfather's family. My
grandfather's name was Aron Gelb. He emigrated to the U.S. in 1911. He said
he came >from a town called Mikolayev (his spelling on the ship's manifest).

I believe Mikolayev, which is now in the Ukraine and spelled Mikolayuv,
is located at coordinates 4946-2420, according to the Jewishgen Shtetlseeker.
This places it about 15 miles east of Lviv. It is near Glinyany.

Would anyone know if vital records exist for this shtetl? Would they be
in Lviv?

Someone once mentioned to me that vital records for Jewish villages were also
kept in a nearby town called Bobrka, which I believe is now called Chodorow.

I would appreciate any help.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn New York The2thdkdr@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Refer to Suzan Wynne's book, Finding Your Jewish
Roots in Galicia: A Resource Guide, published by Avotaynu, Inc. It
appears that there are vital records for this town with the Vinniki,
Eastern Galicia (Ukraine) records in the Polish National Archives in
Warsaw and in the Lviv Archives.

This book is highly recommended for Galician researchers, especially
those who wish to know the availability of vital records.

Avotaynu, Inc has a website: http://www.avotaynu.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Where are the vital records? #galicia

The2thdkdr@...
 

I recently began researching my maternal, grandfather's family. My
grandfather's name was Aron Gelb. He emigrated to the U.S. in 1911. He said
he came >from a town called Mikolayev (his spelling on the ship's manifest).

I believe Mikolayev, which is now in the Ukraine and spelled Mikolayuv,
is located at coordinates 4946-2420, according to the Jewishgen Shtetlseeker.
This places it about 15 miles east of Lviv. It is near Glinyany.

Would anyone know if vital records exist for this shtetl? Would they be
in Lviv?

Someone once mentioned to me that vital records for Jewish villages were also
kept in a nearby town called Bobrka, which I believe is now called Chodorow.

I would appreciate any help.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn New York The2thdkdr@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Refer to Suzan Wynne's book, Finding Your Jewish
Roots in Galicia: A Resource Guide, published by Avotaynu, Inc. It
appears that there are vital records for this town with the Vinniki,
Eastern Galicia (Ukraine) records in the Polish National Archives in
Warsaw and in the Lviv Archives.

This book is highly recommended for Galician researchers, especially
those who wish to know the availability of vital records.

Avotaynu, Inc has a website: http://www.avotaynu.com


Searching KOHN, Vienna #general

Brichg@...
 

I am looking for a Nora Kohn, originally >from Vienna, Austria. She left
Vienna at the same time as a Lisl Kaufmann, 1938. Nora ended up in London,
Lisl in Israel. They both survived the holocaust & had children. Nora would
be around 75 yrs. both these women's names are their maiden names. Nora
visited Lisl in Israel in 1950. Nora had a brother named Fritz. They went
first to Prague in 1938, before going to England.
These women are childhood friends & Lisl would desperately like to find
Nora.
I hope this sounds familiar to someone out there. This generation of
holocaust survivors is rapidly fading, with the advent of the computer,
maybe we can help them come full circle in their lives. In turn enriching
ours & our children.
If there is a familiar cord here, I do have more details.
Thank you all,
Betsy Gilon
Brichg@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KOHN, Vienna #general

Brichg@...
 

I am looking for a Nora Kohn, originally >from Vienna, Austria. She left
Vienna at the same time as a Lisl Kaufmann, 1938. Nora ended up in London,
Lisl in Israel. They both survived the holocaust & had children. Nora would
be around 75 yrs. both these women's names are their maiden names. Nora
visited Lisl in Israel in 1950. Nora had a brother named Fritz. They went
first to Prague in 1938, before going to England.
These women are childhood friends & Lisl would desperately like to find
Nora.
I hope this sounds familiar to someone out there. This generation of
holocaust survivors is rapidly fading, with the advent of the computer,
maybe we can help them come full circle in their lives. In turn enriching
ours & our children.
If there is a familiar cord here, I do have more details.
Thank you all,
Betsy Gilon
Brichg@aol.com


Gerts as a given name?? #general

Maria Krane
 

Hello Genners,

Once more I need to rely on the experts on this board for help.
I've been looking for any leads as to the name Gerts. (A new name to our
family tree). I can't seem to find it anywhere. It is a male name but
I've not seen it before. If anyone can help, I'd truly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Regards,

Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com

researching: KREIN/KREYN/OKIN/SCHULDNER in Vegery, Lithuania
REMER/HOFFMAN/KATZ in Salakas, Lithuania and Hoffman/Rachman in Svir,
Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gerts as a given name?? #general

Maria Krane
 

Hello Genners,

Once more I need to rely on the experts on this board for help.
I've been looking for any leads as to the name Gerts. (A new name to our
family tree). I can't seem to find it anywhere. It is a male name but
I've not seen it before. If anyone can help, I'd truly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Regards,

Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com

researching: KREIN/KREYN/OKIN/SCHULDNER in Vegery, Lithuania
REMER/HOFFMAN/KATZ in Salakas, Lithuania and Hoffman/Rachman in Svir,
Belarus


Re: Searching: Polina GINZBURG (TUNKEL) #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

Pauline Ginsburg (Tunkel) was born 10 July 1908, d. 9 Sept 1997.
SSN 330-22-3443

Is any way to get information about her for free? I am looking for many
people (currently about 50) and it is difficult to pay 7 dollars for each
request.

Roman Tunkel
Hartford, CT, USA
tunkelr@juno.com
SEARCH FOR TUNKEL/TOONKEL/TOUNKEL/TUNCHEL ANYWERE ON EARTH

******************************
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:01:54 -0500 Alan Weiner
<asweiner@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes: Dear Mr. Tunkel, You
should be able to find out exactly when Polina Ginzburg died by looking
at her death certificate. There is information on how to order IL death
certificates at http://www.cdc.gov/nchswww/howto/w2w/illinois.htm. I
hope this helps some. By the way, I lived in West Hartford for a few
months next door to the newer Young Israel. Sincerely yours, Alan Weiner


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Searching: Polina GINZBURG (TUNKEL) #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

Pauline Ginsburg (Tunkel) was born 10 July 1908, d. 9 Sept 1997.
SSN 330-22-3443

Is any way to get information about her for free? I am looking for many
people (currently about 50) and it is difficult to pay 7 dollars for each
request.

Roman Tunkel
Hartford, CT, USA
tunkelr@juno.com
SEARCH FOR TUNKEL/TOONKEL/TOUNKEL/TUNCHEL ANYWERE ON EARTH

******************************
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:01:54 -0500 Alan Weiner
<asweiner@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes: Dear Mr. Tunkel, You
should be able to find out exactly when Polina Ginzburg died by looking
at her death certificate. There is information on how to order IL death
certificates at http://www.cdc.gov/nchswww/howto/w2w/illinois.htm. I
hope this helps some. By the way, I lived in West Hartford for a few
months next door to the newer Young Israel. Sincerely yours, Alan Weiner


Re: Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob #galicia

Rita Margolies <b4kids@...>
 

Naomi Fatouros wrote:

YIVO has published a guide to its Landsmanshaft Archives, but I
don't know whether it's in Yiddish or English. Most likely the
archives are all in Yiddish, Hebrew, or, perhaps, Polish and
Russian.
If you visit YIVO when it has reopened, you can ask to to see the
archives for a particular society

I'm not sure now when YIVO will reopen and more importantly if I will
be able to get there in the near future. For me, it will probably be
after the fall holidays.

However, the FHL [Mormon Family History Library] has on microfiche the
catalog of the YIVO holdings and, >from what I could see of the
description, the catalog is in English. It takes a little while for it
to arrive (I'm still waiting after a month), but it should be easy to
find out whether this congregation is listed.

Someone in my group has a hard copy of the pamphlet, so I suspect it's
not too hard to get >from YIVO.

Rita Margolies
Redmond, Washington
b4kids@earthlink.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob #galicia

Rita Margolies <b4kids@...>
 

Naomi Fatouros wrote:

YIVO has published a guide to its Landsmanshaft Archives, but I
don't know whether it's in Yiddish or English. Most likely the
archives are all in Yiddish, Hebrew, or, perhaps, Polish and
Russian.
If you visit YIVO when it has reopened, you can ask to to see the
archives for a particular society

I'm not sure now when YIVO will reopen and more importantly if I will
be able to get there in the near future. For me, it will probably be
after the fall holidays.

However, the FHL [Mormon Family History Library] has on microfiche the
catalog of the YIVO holdings and, >from what I could see of the
description, the catalog is in English. It takes a little while for it
to arrive (I'm still waiting after a month), but it should be easy to
find out whether this congregation is listed.

Someone in my group has a hard copy of the pamphlet, so I suspect it's
not too hard to get >from YIVO.

Rita Margolies
Redmond, Washington
b4kids@earthlink.net


Re: Obtaining Records From Archives #belarus

YuriShch1@...
 

Winnie71@aol.com writes:
<< I am trying to obtain the following records: the 1897 census of Vitebsk as
well as its Revision Lists. I was told that I could obtain these >from the
Belarus Historical Archives in Minsk. Does anyone know if this is true and if
I could obtain these records >from any other sources >>


Belarussian Archives DO NOT sell their funds. You may obtain only particular
records (photocopies, of course) related to your family. To do so you have to
provide the following information: name(s), place(s), DOB (for vital records).
The Archives DO NOT provide genealogy research, that's why they require this
info.
You may send your request directly to Vitebsk Historical Archive, but don't
forget to point the data mentioned above.

Yuri Shcherbina
YuriShch1@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Obtaining Records From Archives #belarus

YuriShch1@...
 

Winnie71@aol.com writes:
<< I am trying to obtain the following records: the 1897 census of Vitebsk as
well as its Revision Lists. I was told that I could obtain these >from the
Belarus Historical Archives in Minsk. Does anyone know if this is true and if
I could obtain these records >from any other sources >>


Belarussian Archives DO NOT sell their funds. You may obtain only particular
records (photocopies, of course) related to your family. To do so you have to
provide the following information: name(s), place(s), DOB (for vital records).
The Archives DO NOT provide genealogy research, that's why they require this
info.
You may send your request directly to Vitebsk Historical Archive, but don't
forget to point the data mentioned above.

Yuri Shcherbina
YuriShch1@aol.com


Re: Deportation to Minsk & numbers #belarus

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

All,
I have an 86 year old second cousin, once removed who lives in a smaller
city not too far >from Minsk. During the war her non-Jewish husband was
able to obtain false papers for her and her children and smuggle them out
of the local ghetto.

This woman still lives in that city and has taken it upon herself to
document the truth of what went on during the war. Last year she located
a mass grave of Polish Jews and it was reported.

She has been interviewed by Yad Vashem and has submitted many, many Pages
of Testimony. She has also been interviewed by the Shoah foundation. She
has come to all of this late in life. Only after the dissolution of the
Soviet Union and the coming to Belarus of the Joint, the Lauder Foundation
and other Jewish groups has her personal story been told. I cannot
believe she is alone.

I do not know who is putting up the markers, but I know that she has been
in contact with Yad Vashem with her findings. I will also not give her
name since she does not speak English, only Russian & Yiddish and she has
been in frail health-- although her will has become stronger each year.

I also believe that she is not alone. There are other Jews still living
there who may also be documenting things and finding the graves. Mass
murder was the way in Belarus. They were taken >from their towns into the
woods and shot, or bayonted and thrown into rivers. One Russian immigrant
cited a case of the 'fasciti' who murdered relatives in their home. When
I remarked that Pages of Tewtimony should be completed, he looked
surpised-- he thought only those who were killed in the camps were
Holocaust victims. If this is a common belief, then we may never know how
many victims there were in the western areas of the Soviet Union. I have
heard some say that the total number of jews killed was actually much more
than 6 million, and may have actually approached 8.5 or 9 million due to
undercounts >from the Societ Union. It is somewhat encouraging to note
that new markers and plaques may in some small way make up for these
omissions.

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL

P.S. Please do not ask me more of my cousin. Due to her frail health,
her family who have emigrated have asked that she be able to continue her
'work' without being badgered by outsiders. I must respect that.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Deportation to Minsk & numbers #belarus

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

All,
I have an 86 year old second cousin, once removed who lives in a smaller
city not too far >from Minsk. During the war her non-Jewish husband was
able to obtain false papers for her and her children and smuggle them out
of the local ghetto.

This woman still lives in that city and has taken it upon herself to
document the truth of what went on during the war. Last year she located
a mass grave of Polish Jews and it was reported.

She has been interviewed by Yad Vashem and has submitted many, many Pages
of Testimony. She has also been interviewed by the Shoah foundation. She
has come to all of this late in life. Only after the dissolution of the
Soviet Union and the coming to Belarus of the Joint, the Lauder Foundation
and other Jewish groups has her personal story been told. I cannot
believe she is alone.

I do not know who is putting up the markers, but I know that she has been
in contact with Yad Vashem with her findings. I will also not give her
name since she does not speak English, only Russian & Yiddish and she has
been in frail health-- although her will has become stronger each year.

I also believe that she is not alone. There are other Jews still living
there who may also be documenting things and finding the graves. Mass
murder was the way in Belarus. They were taken >from their towns into the
woods and shot, or bayonted and thrown into rivers. One Russian immigrant
cited a case of the 'fasciti' who murdered relatives in their home. When
I remarked that Pages of Tewtimony should be completed, he looked
surpised-- he thought only those who were killed in the camps were
Holocaust victims. If this is a common belief, then we may never know how
many victims there were in the western areas of the Soviet Union. I have
heard some say that the total number of jews killed was actually much more
than 6 million, and may have actually approached 8.5 or 9 million due to
undercounts >from the Societ Union. It is somewhat encouraging to note
that new markers and plaques may in some small way make up for these
omissions.

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL

P.S. Please do not ask me more of my cousin. Due to her frail health,
her family who have emigrated have asked that she be able to continue her
'work' without being badgered by outsiders. I must respect that.


Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob #galicia

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

I don't know how much use it is to learn the address of Lower East Side
organizations, shuls, societies, etc.., but I just found a listing for the
Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob, in the Oscar Israelowitz Tour Guide list. This
Kehilah was located at 218 East Second Street.

I had missed this listing when I sent a message the other day about the
First Rymalower Young Men's Benevolent Society, because the listing is not in
alphabetical order. Instead, organizations are listed according to location,
street by street. (Besides the lines are close together and the print is
smallish!)

YIVO has published a guide to its Landsmanshaft Archives, but I don't know
whether it's in Yiddish or English. Most likely the archives are all in
Yiddish, Hebrew, or, perhaps, Polish and Russian. If you visit YIVO when it
has reopened, you can ask to to see the archives for a particular society and
make an arrangement to have a volunteer do some translating help. Usually a
volunteer comes in on a particular day of the week, so, inconvenient as it may
be, you may have to make two trips to YIVO.

Naomi
Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
Bloomington, IN 47401, USA
99/02/19.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob #galicia

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

I don't know how much use it is to learn the address of Lower East Side
organizations, shuls, societies, etc.., but I just found a listing for the
Rymalover Kehilah B'nai Jacob, in the Oscar Israelowitz Tour Guide list. This
Kehilah was located at 218 East Second Street.

I had missed this listing when I sent a message the other day about the
First Rymalower Young Men's Benevolent Society, because the listing is not in
alphabetical order. Instead, organizations are listed according to location,
street by street. (Besides the lines are close together and the print is
smallish!)

YIVO has published a guide to its Landsmanshaft Archives, but I don't know
whether it's in Yiddish or English. Most likely the archives are all in
Yiddish, Hebrew, or, perhaps, Polish and Russian. If you visit YIVO when it
has reopened, you can ask to to see the archives for a particular society and
make an arrangement to have a volunteer do some translating help. Usually a
volunteer comes in on a particular day of the week, so, inconvenient as it may
be, you may have to make two trips to YIVO.

Naomi
Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
Bloomington, IN 47401, USA
99/02/19.