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INTRO - researching LEBENSBERGER family from Gaugrehweiler, Rhineland-Palatinate #germany

Sam Schulman
 

Welcome Mr. Schulman-
Thank you for your INTRO message. GerSIG Moderator =====>

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
4 years. I consider myself to be intermediate-minus in doing German
Jewish Genealogy research. I live in rural Virginia, USA. My native
language is English and I also know German and French (and
can read Gothic type). I consider myself advanced in using a computer.
My experience in using the Internet is extensive.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 8 of my great grandparents and 4 of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out 18th century antecedents
and relatives of my great-great grandfather, born in 1780 in
Gaugrehweiler, married first to an Alsenz maiden, then to a
Frei-Laubersheim maiden.

My JGFF Researcher ID number is 570865.

The family names and ancestral towns that I have entered in the JGFF
(JewishGen Family Finder) are
LEBENSBERGER >from Gaugrehweiler Germany - Mayer L born 1780 to Ohio
about 1830 - other LEBENSBERGERs in Piqua+Sandusky.
ABRAHAM >from Alsenz Germany -Schele ABRAHAM married Mayer
LEBENSBERGER in Alsenz 1807 - he remarried in 1820. Her family? Her fate?
WOLF >from Bad Kreuznach Germany - Actually >from Frei-Laubersheim, but
JGFF won't let me enter this town 8km >from Bad K. Hannah Henrietta W.
m. MAYER L. 1820
MONAT or MONET >from Bad Kreuznach Germany - Actually from
Frei-Laubersheim Esther M Wolf Mother of 2nd Frau Mayer L
MONET Bad Kreuznach Germany
MONAT or MONET or WOLF or WOLFF (cousin married son of Mayer L. in 1840s)
I am also interested in information about another branch with less information:
BERGER >from Bavaria - town unknown but born about 1832, settled in
Quincy, Adams County, Illinois
WEINBERG >from Bavaria - 1830,ditto.

Samuel E. Schulman, samschulman@gmail.com Kents Store, VA


Re: Help with the term PARNIARZ/PORNIARZ from Sefer Wyszkow #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Howard Orenstein wrote:
According to the JewishGen Latvia Database, there is a place, formerly
in northeastern Poland, now Estonia, called, alternatively:
Pernov
ernu
Pernau
Pernoi [Yiddish], Pernava [Latvian],Parnawa [Polish]
snip...

Arnoldus Parn(i)artz of Koln and Conradus Sweynheym of Mainz
were the first printers in Rome around 1467.
<http://www.codex99.com/typography/112.html>
<http://tinyurl.com/Parnartz> Goolge books

Perhaps they both were Ashkenazim?

Could it be that Parniartz/Pannartz/Pannertz ment Parnas?
<http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11915-parnas>

btw:

Sweynheym = home of the pigs ;-)?


Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching LEBENSBERGER family from Gaugrehweiler, Rhineland-Palatinate #germany

Sam Schulman
 

Welcome Mr. Schulman-
Thank you for your INTRO message. GerSIG Moderator =====>

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
4 years. I consider myself to be intermediate-minus in doing German
Jewish Genealogy research. I live in rural Virginia, USA. My native
language is English and I also know German and French (and
can read Gothic type). I consider myself advanced in using a computer.
My experience in using the Internet is extensive.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 8 of my great grandparents and 4 of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out 18th century antecedents
and relatives of my great-great grandfather, born in 1780 in
Gaugrehweiler, married first to an Alsenz maiden, then to a
Frei-Laubersheim maiden.

My JGFF Researcher ID number is 570865.

The family names and ancestral towns that I have entered in the JGFF
(JewishGen Family Finder) are
LEBENSBERGER >from Gaugrehweiler Germany - Mayer L born 1780 to Ohio
about 1830 - other LEBENSBERGERs in Piqua+Sandusky.
ABRAHAM >from Alsenz Germany -Schele ABRAHAM married Mayer
LEBENSBERGER in Alsenz 1807 - he remarried in 1820. Her family? Her fate?
WOLF >from Bad Kreuznach Germany - Actually >from Frei-Laubersheim, but
JGFF won't let me enter this town 8km >from Bad K. Hannah Henrietta W.
m. MAYER L. 1820
MONAT or MONET >from Bad Kreuznach Germany - Actually from
Frei-Laubersheim Esther M Wolf Mother of 2nd Frau Mayer L
MONET Bad Kreuznach Germany
MONAT or MONET or WOLF or WOLFF (cousin married son of Mayer L. in 1840s)
I am also interested in information about another branch with less information:
BERGER >from Bavaria - town unknown but born about 1832, settled in
Quincy, Adams County, Illinois
WEINBERG >from Bavaria - 1830,ditto.

Samuel E. Schulman, samschulman@gmail.com Kents Store, VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help with the term PARNIARZ/PORNIARZ from Sefer Wyszkow #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Howard Orenstein wrote:
According to the JewishGen Latvia Database, there is a place, formerly
in northeastern Poland, now Estonia, called, alternatively:
Pernov
ernu
Pernau
Pernoi [Yiddish], Pernava [Latvian],Parnawa [Polish]
snip...

Arnoldus Parn(i)artz of Koln and Conradus Sweynheym of Mainz
were the first printers in Rome around 1467.
<http://www.codex99.com/typography/112.html>
<http://tinyurl.com/Parnartz> Goolge books

Perhaps they both were Ashkenazim?

Could it be that Parniartz/Pannartz/Pannertz ment Parnas?
<http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11915-parnas>

btw:

Sweynheym = home of the pigs ;-)?


Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


relatives in England #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

All of my family originally came >from Germany and left due to the Nazis.
I have been unsuccessful in finding relatives who live in England. The
family left Germany and lived in South Africa for some time and moved to
London. We have been able to find out that two daughters were born to
the one still living son, while he has been in England. They were born
in thee 1970s. We have not been able to find out any newer information
using Ancestry.com. Any suggestions. I have the name of the man- who
would be my generation. He was born in South Africa in the late 1940s.
He met and married his wife in England. His name is Clive Norman SIMON.
His wife was Angela Hodgson. His children are Katharine Jane Simon (she's
is probably married with another last name now) and Tamara Carol Simon.
Suggestions on further research?
Thank you.

Lin Herz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen relatives in England #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

All of my family originally came >from Germany and left due to the Nazis.
I have been unsuccessful in finding relatives who live in England. The
family left Germany and lived in South Africa for some time and moved to
London. We have been able to find out that two daughters were born to
the one still living son, while he has been in England. They were born
in thee 1970s. We have not been able to find out any newer information
using Ancestry.com. Any suggestions. I have the name of the man- who
would be my generation. He was born in South Africa in the late 1940s.
He met and married his wife in England. His name is Clive Norman SIMON.
His wife was Angela Hodgson. His children are Katharine Jane Simon (she's
is probably married with another last name now) and Tamara Carol Simon.
Suggestions on further research?
Thank you.

Lin Herz


Alsatian Jews in New York City #general

Robert Teitelbaum <bobtbaum@...>
 

For many years I have been trying to trace my great aunt's history
after her arrival in New York City. She came >from Valff, Bas Rhin,
Alsace with my great grandfather in 1869. He was 12; she was just shy
of 17.

He re-appears in the Brooklyn records after 1880; she appears in no
further records. [She may have married but there are no municipal
records.]

I am wondering if anyone on this list knows or can refer me to sources
that will identify where Alsatian Jews were likely to go after arrival
in New York City at that time (1869)? Were there communities or
Synagogues where they might have collected.

Thank you,

Bob Teitelbaum


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alsatian Jews in New York City #general

Robert Teitelbaum <bobtbaum@...>
 

For many years I have been trying to trace my great aunt's history
after her arrival in New York City. She came >from Valff, Bas Rhin,
Alsace with my great grandfather in 1869. He was 12; she was just shy
of 17.

He re-appears in the Brooklyn records after 1880; she appears in no
further records. [She may have married but there are no municipal
records.]

I am wondering if anyone on this list knows or can refer me to sources
that will identify where Alsatian Jews were likely to go after arrival
in New York City at that time (1869)? Were there communities or
Synagogues where they might have collected.

Thank you,

Bob Teitelbaum


Dutch Police Records #general

Joel weiner
 

I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in:

Algemeen politie-band van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven
op last van den Minister van Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879.
VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz. 1471, no. 1185 van 1879); berigt
van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij he kantongeregt te
Deventer, van 21 Febr.

"General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands. Published by
order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879.
(Removed Aliens) See p. 1471, No. 1185 of 1879), news of the
official of the prosecutor dur side non justice in Deventer, 21 Febr.

I would like to get all the information that might be in the
referenced document or other official files. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Joel Weiner

Researching ENDEWELT, ENDEWELD, ENDEVELT, ENDEVELD, ENDERVELT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dutch Police Records #general

Joel weiner
 

I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in:

Algemeen politie-band van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven
op last van den Minister van Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879.
VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz. 1471, no. 1185 van 1879); berigt
van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij he kantongeregt te
Deventer, van 21 Febr.

"General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands. Published by
order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879.
(Removed Aliens) See p. 1471, No. 1185 of 1879), news of the
official of the prosecutor dur side non justice in Deventer, 21 Febr.

I would like to get all the information that might be in the
referenced document or other official files. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Joel Weiner

Researching ENDEWELT, ENDEWELD, ENDEVELT, ENDEVELD, ENDERVELT


Georgia Naturalizations #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

As I have mentioned in a prior posting about Alabama Naturalizations on
Ancestry.com, these southern naturalizations are a tremendous help in locating
information on immigrant Jews. In the Georgia Naturalizations, I happened
upon a very interesting record which is a wonderful example of how Jewish
families can be dispersed to a number of far-flung places.
On September 27, 1865, Leizeris Krygeris, was born in Vabalninkas, Lithuania,
and on March 19, 1935, he arrived in America on the SS Majestic. He then
settled in Georgia and his five children are listed as follows: AElex Kruger,
living in Fitzgerald, Georgia, Abe Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia,
Morris Kruger, living in Johannesburg, South Africa, David S. Kruger,
living in Live Oak, Florida, Israel H. Kruger, living in Ra'anana, Israel.
One can look further, and find according to the "South African Jewry 1976-1977"
Year Book that Morris Kruger is listed there. He is the child of Lazar and
Pesia Kruger, served in the Lithuanian Army in 1921, and came to South Africa
in 1922. He married Ida Bloch in 1922 and had two sons. He was the Chairman
of the Vabolnik Countrymen. One can also find more about his brothers and
their families too. The William Bremen Jewish Heritage & Holocaust Museum in
Atlanta, Georgia,has much about the Kruger family including a wonderful
family photograph of Leizeris and his sons.

In another example, one sees how it was not only the husbands who came to America
alone, but some wives did this as well. One finds a record for Rachel Lena Klein
(no maiden name), who had been married to Hyman David Klein and had a son
Solomon Isaac Klein, all born in Taurage, Lithuania. Evidently, the husband
remained in Lithuania whilst the wife and child came to America and settled
in Georgia in 1920. One wonders if the husband later survived the Holocaust.
An interesting record shows that immigrants came to America to landsleit who
had chosen to settle in well-known enclaves. In regard to Isidor Yankel Kremer,
who was born in Pushalot, Lithuania, it appeared >from the record that he
married in Jacksonville, Florida, to a Fannie (maiden name not mentioned),
who was >from Romania, before he settled in Albany, Georgia. Many immigrants
from the small Lithuanian shtetl of Pushalot found a home in Jacksonville and,
so too, it was with Mr. Kremer who made that connection along with a number of
his Kremer relatives.

There are many other examples >from not only Lithuania, but other countries as
well which are worth investigating. All have their special little twists and
turns in the history of that particular family. In addition, be sure and look
at all of the southern states such as Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky,
South Carolina and others, whose naturalizations are now online as one never
knows where one will find a family member.

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Georgia Naturalizations #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

As I have mentioned in a prior posting about Alabama Naturalizations on
Ancestry.com, these southern naturalizations are a tremendous help in locating
information on immigrant Jews. In the Georgia Naturalizations, I happened
upon a very interesting record which is a wonderful example of how Jewish
families can be dispersed to a number of far-flung places.
On September 27, 1865, Leizeris Krygeris, was born in Vabalninkas, Lithuania,
and on March 19, 1935, he arrived in America on the SS Majestic. He then
settled in Georgia and his five children are listed as follows: AElex Kruger,
living in Fitzgerald, Georgia, Abe Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia,
Morris Kruger, living in Johannesburg, South Africa, David S. Kruger,
living in Live Oak, Florida, Israel H. Kruger, living in Ra'anana, Israel.
One can look further, and find according to the "South African Jewry 1976-1977"
Year Book that Morris Kruger is listed there. He is the child of Lazar and
Pesia Kruger, served in the Lithuanian Army in 1921, and came to South Africa
in 1922. He married Ida Bloch in 1922 and had two sons. He was the Chairman
of the Vabolnik Countrymen. One can also find more about his brothers and
their families too. The William Bremen Jewish Heritage & Holocaust Museum in
Atlanta, Georgia,has much about the Kruger family including a wonderful
family photograph of Leizeris and his sons.

In another example, one sees how it was not only the husbands who came to America
alone, but some wives did this as well. One finds a record for Rachel Lena Klein
(no maiden name), who had been married to Hyman David Klein and had a son
Solomon Isaac Klein, all born in Taurage, Lithuania. Evidently, the husband
remained in Lithuania whilst the wife and child came to America and settled
in Georgia in 1920. One wonders if the husband later survived the Holocaust.
An interesting record shows that immigrants came to America to landsleit who
had chosen to settle in well-known enclaves. In regard to Isidor Yankel Kremer,
who was born in Pushalot, Lithuania, it appeared >from the record that he
married in Jacksonville, Florida, to a Fannie (maiden name not mentioned),
who was >from Romania, before he settled in Albany, Georgia. Many immigrants
from the small Lithuanian shtetl of Pushalot found a home in Jacksonville and,
so too, it was with Mr. Kremer who made that connection along with a number of
his Kremer relatives.

There are many other examples >from not only Lithuania, but other countries as
well which are worth investigating. All have their special little twists and
turns in the history of that particular family. In addition, be sure and look
at all of the southern states such as Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky,
South Carolina and others, whose naturalizations are now online as one never
knows where one will find a family member.

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net


lookup at Kings County (Brooklyn) Surrogate's Court #general

Renee Steinig
 

Does anyone out there have plans to be at Kings County Surrogate's
Court in Brooklyn (2 Johnson St.)?

If so, I'd appreciate a look in the index there for several names. If
records are on file for any of the people, I'll go to Brooklyn to see
them. I'd just like to avoid traveling 75 miles round-trip only to
discover that none of these folks had wills or other records.

If you can help, please write me for details.

Thanks.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
genmaven@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen lookup at Kings County (Brooklyn) Surrogate's Court #general

Renee Steinig
 

Does anyone out there have plans to be at Kings County Surrogate's
Court in Brooklyn (2 Johnson St.)?

If so, I'd appreciate a look in the index there for several names. If
records are on file for any of the people, I'll go to Brooklyn to see
them. I'd just like to avoid traveling 75 miles round-trip only to
discover that none of these folks had wills or other records.

If you can help, please write me for details.

Thanks.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
genmaven@gmail.com


Looking for Hommon Russia #general

Bruce Katkin <bkatkin@...>
 

I am wondering what Hommon, Russia before WW1 is called today, or if it even
exists any more.

Researching: Goodman/Guttman, Bukovina, Lachs/Lax in
Bukovina and Galacia, Katkin and Levinson: Minsk,Slutsk, Belarus; Vilnius,
Lithuania; Ekaterinoslav(Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine
Bruce Katkin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Hommon Russia #general

Bruce Katkin <bkatkin@...>
 

I am wondering what Hommon, Russia before WW1 is called today, or if it even
exists any more.

Researching: Goodman/Guttman, Bukovina, Lachs/Lax in
Bukovina and Galacia, Katkin and Levinson: Minsk,Slutsk, Belarus; Vilnius,
Lithuania; Ekaterinoslav(Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine
Bruce Katkin


Re: finding enumeration districts: NY #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 6/17/2013 9:45:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wendygris@gmail.com writes:
What I need to do is
figure out probable EDs for the 1905, 1915, and 1925 censuses.



There is a one step tool that will get you into the neighborhood for the AD
and ED that you can access at _www.stephenmorse.org_
(http://www.stephenmorse.org) . However my experience with it is that it
may only get you to the general area and you may have to keep searching
beyond the ED it supplies.

At the library in Manhattan there exists the street index on microfilmed
index cards that has each individual address and the 1905, 1915 AD/ED
for the individual address. There are even page numbers where to find the
address within the census. It is fool proof and even shows when an address did
not exist. Ask if the NY State Library or the LDS has a copy of this
microfilm. It may only exist at the Manhattan research room in the Public
Library building at 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue.

At the same building there are also maps -- some in the genealogy room and
some in the Map Room -- that show AD/ED for the state census records. If
you think you are going to have to do the map route suggestion is to take
along a current street map that shows the cross streets for the address you
are looking for. It helps if you know what part of the City to be looking
at in the maps.

Also in the case of Newark, New Jersey for example the Census district maps
for the State Census are on line and you can search them out and do the
research >from home.

Also at the NY Public Library you will find the complete 1890 Police
Census. They have the locator book to find addresses and they have
the complete microfilm of the 1890 Police Census.

Finally don't forget that Ancestry and FamilySearch.org are now loading the
NY State Census. So you might want to start your search on line because
it could save a lot of look up time and microfilm work.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding enumeration districts: NY #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 6/17/2013 9:45:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wendygris@gmail.com writes:
What I need to do is
figure out probable EDs for the 1905, 1915, and 1925 censuses.



There is a one step tool that will get you into the neighborhood for the AD
and ED that you can access at _www.stephenmorse.org_
(http://www.stephenmorse.org) . However my experience with it is that it
may only get you to the general area and you may have to keep searching
beyond the ED it supplies.

At the library in Manhattan there exists the street index on microfilmed
index cards that has each individual address and the 1905, 1915 AD/ED
for the individual address. There are even page numbers where to find the
address within the census. It is fool proof and even shows when an address did
not exist. Ask if the NY State Library or the LDS has a copy of this
microfilm. It may only exist at the Manhattan research room in the Public
Library building at 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue.

At the same building there are also maps -- some in the genealogy room and
some in the Map Room -- that show AD/ED for the state census records. If
you think you are going to have to do the map route suggestion is to take
along a current street map that shows the cross streets for the address you
are looking for. It helps if you know what part of the City to be looking
at in the maps.

Also in the case of Newark, New Jersey for example the Census district maps
for the State Census are on line and you can search them out and do the
research >from home.

Also at the NY Public Library you will find the complete 1890 Police
Census. They have the locator book to find addresses and they have
the complete microfilm of the 1890 Police Census.

Finally don't forget that Ancestry and FamilySearch.org are now loading the
NY State Census. So you might want to start your search on line because
it could save a lot of look up time and microfilm work.

Allan Jordan


Re: finding enumeration districts: NY #general

Jenny Brown
 

A great resource is Steve Morse's page at stevemorse.org. On this web
site, he has a Unified Census ED finder:
http://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html. You can use that to put in
addresses and find the EDs. While it doesn't have the EDs for the
5-years, I would imagine if you found the EDs for 1910, 1920, and 1930
they would also work for 5s.

If you have a paid subscription to Ancestry.com, you can search the New
York censuses for those years >from your home.

Good luck!
Jenny Brown
Arlington, MA

Researching: Latvia: KOPOLOVITZ, DOROGOI
Poland/Lithuania: BRENNHOLZ, GURVICH
Odesa, Ukraine: BRASLOWSKY, KRASNOTEIN
Kobryin, Belarus: LEDER
Kupel, Ukraine: SOFER


Wendy Griswold <wendygris@gmail.com> =
wrote:
snip....I would like to look at the 1905, 1915, 1925
censuses (is there a word for those off-year state censuses?).
snip...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding enumeration districts: NY #general

Jenny Brown
 

A great resource is Steve Morse's page at stevemorse.org. On this web
site, he has a Unified Census ED finder:
http://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html. You can use that to put in
addresses and find the EDs. While it doesn't have the EDs for the
5-years, I would imagine if you found the EDs for 1910, 1920, and 1930
they would also work for 5s.

If you have a paid subscription to Ancestry.com, you can search the New
York censuses for those years >from your home.

Good luck!
Jenny Brown
Arlington, MA

Researching: Latvia: KOPOLOVITZ, DOROGOI
Poland/Lithuania: BRENNHOLZ, GURVICH
Odesa, Ukraine: BRASLOWSKY, KRASNOTEIN
Kobryin, Belarus: LEDER
Kupel, Ukraine: SOFER


Wendy Griswold <wendygris@gmail.com> =
wrote:
snip....I would like to look at the 1905, 1915, 1925
censuses (is there a word for those off-year state censuses?).
snip...

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