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Re: Finding relatives who died in Holocaust #general

Roger Lustig
 

One way is to find Pages of Testimony at
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en and see who
submitted them. Some of the people named there are the people you're
looking for, or their relatives; some of the submitters might have more
information. I see about a dozen ZLATES >from Kamenetz, for instance.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 9/20/2013 12:23 PM, jbonline1111@gmail.com wrote:
My grandparents emigrated to the US in the late 1890's and early 1900's.
I have only a few names and assumed locations for their parents, who lived
in Grodno, Kamenetz, Mogilef and Slonim. I have no idea if they were still
alive by 1939, or if the one sibling whom I believe stayed in Russia/Poland
had any offspring.

One family name is ZLATES, as it was spelled on the ship manifest, and the
other is SLONIMSKY, which is relatively common.

I have found other SLONIMSKY families who might be relatives, but none of
us have enough information to be sure.

Other family names include KROP, KATZ, SANKTIN, PESSIN (or PASSIN) and
WEINGER, all married either ZLATES or SLONIMSKY.

I have researched some of the memorial books and found the name WEINGER
or similar, but no way of knowing if they are related, though the town
is the same.

It is also said that one presumably ZLATES relative survived, an uncle
of my grandfather, and that man went to Israel, where he died. I don't
have a first name, though it might be Yiitzak or similar. I don't know
where in Israel he lived.

Can anyone suggest how I might follow up to find these "lost" relatives?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding relatives who died in Holocaust #general

Roger Lustig
 

One way is to find Pages of Testimony at
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en and see who
submitted them. Some of the people named there are the people you're
looking for, or their relatives; some of the submitters might have more
information. I see about a dozen ZLATES >from Kamenetz, for instance.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 9/20/2013 12:23 PM, jbonline1111@gmail.com wrote:
My grandparents emigrated to the US in the late 1890's and early 1900's.
I have only a few names and assumed locations for their parents, who lived
in Grodno, Kamenetz, Mogilef and Slonim. I have no idea if they were still
alive by 1939, or if the one sibling whom I believe stayed in Russia/Poland
had any offspring.

One family name is ZLATES, as it was spelled on the ship manifest, and the
other is SLONIMSKY, which is relatively common.

I have found other SLONIMSKY families who might be relatives, but none of
us have enough information to be sure.

Other family names include KROP, KATZ, SANKTIN, PESSIN (or PASSIN) and
WEINGER, all married either ZLATES or SLONIMSKY.

I have researched some of the memorial books and found the name WEINGER
or similar, but no way of knowing if they are related, though the town
is the same.

It is also said that one presumably ZLATES relative survived, an uncle
of my grandfather, and that man went to Israel, where he died. I don't
have a first name, though it might be Yiitzak or similar. I don't know
where in Israel he lived.

Can anyone suggest how I might follow up to find these "lost" relatives?


Re: ViewMate translation request - Polish Icyk Litman LENCZNER, Szczekociny #general

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Thanks for the quick response to my translation request for the possible
birth record of my ancestor Litman LENCNZER.

While the surname of Litman's mother, Sora, was not given, it is possible,
it was DAWIDOWICZ. >from the records index there is reference to a possible
1831 marriage record of the widower Abram "LENCNER" and Sora (DAWIDOWICZ)
PONCZ as well as an 1850 marriage record for another possible child of
Abram/Sora, Dawid Ajzia LENCZNER to Dasa Hawa LENCZNER (a cousin?) d/o Ajzyk
and Gitla.

Litman and Gitel R. (GLIKSMAN) LENCZNER had at least seven children of whom
five came to the US. I have been able to trace all those five except for
"Rose" who supposedly was married (surname not known/given) and living in
St. Louis, 1933.

Their daughter, Brucha married Schima KOPLOWTIZ around 1889 and had at least
six children all of whom came to the US including Betty and Harriet
(KOPLOWITZ) who both married Abe WYMAN, an immigrant to the US >from Losiec
(one of Betty's sons would become chaiman of the California Democratic Party
during the 1960's).

Litman's other child who remained in Poland, Golda (LENCZNER) married Izrael
David GRYNBAUM and had at least three children, two boys and a girl. Golda
reportedly died 15 August 1943, Sosnowiec, though I have not been able to
learn the circumstances of her death. I did submitted a POT to Yad Vashem
for her. The fate of her husband, Israel and daughter Brucha (b. 1925,
Sosnowiec) are not known to me, but presumed to have perished. Her two sons
survived the war.

Litman's daughter, Liba, my great grandmother came to the US where she died
in 1945 as well as well as my grandmother, Esther (KALKOPF) McTEER and two
of Liba's daughters >from other marriages. However at least four (Abram,
Chaim Berek, Sura & Cutel) of her seven children remained in Poland and are
believed to have perished but their fates remain unknown to me as well as
her first husband Jacob/Jankiel LIBERMAN and third husband, Moishe FRYMORGEN
who were both alive in 1939.

The museum at Auschwitz had provided me copies of several d/c of LENCZNERs
who died there (primarily 'deportees' >from France). Those details have been
posted previously and should be available in the message archives.

Thanks again and best wishes,

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
mcteer@gmail.com or michael_mcteer@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ViewMate translation request - Polish Icyk Litman LENCZNER, Szczekociny #general

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Thanks for the quick response to my translation request for the possible
birth record of my ancestor Litman LENCNZER.

While the surname of Litman's mother, Sora, was not given, it is possible,
it was DAWIDOWICZ. >from the records index there is reference to a possible
1831 marriage record of the widower Abram "LENCNER" and Sora (DAWIDOWICZ)
PONCZ as well as an 1850 marriage record for another possible child of
Abram/Sora, Dawid Ajzia LENCZNER to Dasa Hawa LENCZNER (a cousin?) d/o Ajzyk
and Gitla.

Litman and Gitel R. (GLIKSMAN) LENCZNER had at least seven children of whom
five came to the US. I have been able to trace all those five except for
"Rose" who supposedly was married (surname not known/given) and living in
St. Louis, 1933.

Their daughter, Brucha married Schima KOPLOWTIZ around 1889 and had at least
six children all of whom came to the US including Betty and Harriet
(KOPLOWITZ) who both married Abe WYMAN, an immigrant to the US >from Losiec
(one of Betty's sons would become chaiman of the California Democratic Party
during the 1960's).

Litman's other child who remained in Poland, Golda (LENCZNER) married Izrael
David GRYNBAUM and had at least three children, two boys and a girl. Golda
reportedly died 15 August 1943, Sosnowiec, though I have not been able to
learn the circumstances of her death. I did submitted a POT to Yad Vashem
for her. The fate of her husband, Israel and daughter Brucha (b. 1925,
Sosnowiec) are not known to me, but presumed to have perished. Her two sons
survived the war.

Litman's daughter, Liba, my great grandmother came to the US where she died
in 1945 as well as well as my grandmother, Esther (KALKOPF) McTEER and two
of Liba's daughters >from other marriages. However at least four (Abram,
Chaim Berek, Sura & Cutel) of her seven children remained in Poland and are
believed to have perished but their fates remain unknown to me as well as
her first husband Jacob/Jankiel LIBERMAN and third husband, Moishe FRYMORGEN
who were both alive in 1939.

The museum at Auschwitz had provided me copies of several d/c of LENCZNERs
who died there (primarily 'deportees' >from France). Those details have been
posted previously and should be available in the message archives.

Thanks again and best wishes,

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
mcteer@gmail.com or michael_mcteer@yahoo.com


Re: Searching for ancestors of Max LEWINSKY of X Troop #general

Phil <phil@...>
 

Many thanks to all who replied to my earlier message - especially Barbara,
Ann, Michael and Martin.

Some leads I have already followed up successfully, others I will follow
up as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Phil Willams


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching for ancestors of Max LEWINSKY of X Troop #general

Phil <phil@...>
 

Many thanks to all who replied to my earlier message - especially Barbara,
Ann, Michael and Martin.

Some leads I have already followed up successfully, others I will follow
up as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Phil Willams


Brooklyn, NY City Directories 1856 to 1908 Are On-Line #general

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi genners,

The Brooklyn Public Library has digitized and placed on-line Brooklyn, NY
City Directories 1856 to 1908.

http://www.bklynpubliclibrary.org/brooklyn-collection/digitized-brooklyn-city-directories
[Moderator Note: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/Q2FJI2 ]

Note that there are years within the timeframe not included:
"We have digitized 31 years of Brooklyn city and business directories,
covering a period >from 1856 to 1908."

Thought this may be helpful to some researchers,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY, CHAIMSON, Ariogala (Rogala), Lith.
WALTZMAN, WALZMAN, Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker), Pol.
LEFFENFED, LEFENFELD, Daliowa, Pol.
BOJDA, BERGER, BLEIWEISS Tarnobrzeg, Pol.
SOLAN, SOLAN, SAKOLSKY, Grodek (Bialystok), Pol.
BOBISH, Odessa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn, NY City Directories 1856 to 1908 Are On-Line #general

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi genners,

The Brooklyn Public Library has digitized and placed on-line Brooklyn, NY
City Directories 1856 to 1908.

http://www.bklynpubliclibrary.org/brooklyn-collection/digitized-brooklyn-city-directories
[Moderator Note: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/Q2FJI2 ]

Note that there are years within the timeframe not included:
"We have digitized 31 years of Brooklyn city and business directories,
covering a period >from 1856 to 1908."

Thought this may be helpful to some researchers,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY, CHAIMSON, Ariogala (Rogala), Lith.
WALTZMAN, WALZMAN, Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker), Pol.
LEFFENFED, LEFENFELD, Daliowa, Pol.
BOJDA, BERGER, BLEIWEISS Tarnobrzeg, Pol.
SOLAN, SOLAN, SAKOLSKY, Grodek (Bialystok), Pol.
BOBISH, Odessa


Finding relatives who died in Holocaust #general

jbonline1111@...
 

My grandparents emigrated to the US in the late 1890's and early 1900's.
I have only a few names and assumed locations for their parents, who lived
in Grodno, Kamenetz, Mogilef and Slonim. I have no idea if they were still
alive by 1939, or if the one sibling whom I believe stayed in Russia/Poland
had any offspring.

One family name is ZLATES, as it was spelled on the ship manifest, and the
other is SLONIMSKY, which is relatively common.

I have found other SLONIMSKY families who might be relatives, but none of
us have enough information to be sure.

Other family names include KROP, KATZ, SANKTIN, PESSIN (or PASSIN) and
WEINGER, all married either ZLATES or SLONIMSKY.

I have researched some of the memorial books and found the name WEINGER
or similar, but no way of knowing if they are related, though the town
is the same.

It is also said that one presumably ZLATES relative survived, an uncle
of my grandfather, and that man went to Israel, where he died. I don't
have a first name, though it might be Yiitzak or similar. I don't know
where in Israel he lived.

Can anyone suggest how I might follow up to find these "lost" relatives?

Thank you for any help you might have.

Barbara Sloan
Wallingford, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding relatives who died in Holocaust #general

jbonline1111@...
 

My grandparents emigrated to the US in the late 1890's and early 1900's.
I have only a few names and assumed locations for their parents, who lived
in Grodno, Kamenetz, Mogilef and Slonim. I have no idea if they were still
alive by 1939, or if the one sibling whom I believe stayed in Russia/Poland
had any offspring.

One family name is ZLATES, as it was spelled on the ship manifest, and the
other is SLONIMSKY, which is relatively common.

I have found other SLONIMSKY families who might be relatives, but none of
us have enough information to be sure.

Other family names include KROP, KATZ, SANKTIN, PESSIN (or PASSIN) and
WEINGER, all married either ZLATES or SLONIMSKY.

I have researched some of the memorial books and found the name WEINGER
or similar, but no way of knowing if they are related, though the town
is the same.

It is also said that one presumably ZLATES relative survived, an uncle
of my grandfather, and that man went to Israel, where he died. I don't
have a first name, though it might be Yiitzak or similar. I don't know
where in Israel he lived.

Can anyone suggest how I might follow up to find these "lost" relatives?

Thank you for any help you might have.

Barbara Sloan
Wallingford, CT


Collaborative Genealogy #general

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I have an article in the new issue of Avotaynu entitled "Is Our Tree Better
Than My Tree? The Benefits and Pitfalls of Collaborative Genealogy." I
would welcome any feedback.

The Jewish Genealogy Portal on Geni now has 500 collaborators.
See http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Genealogy-Portal-A-Guide-to-Jewish-Projects-and-Resources-on-Geni/13121
[Moderator Note: Shortened URL - http://goo.gl/t3Miqz ]

The World Family Tree is now over 72 million profiles with almost 3 million
connected users. On Geni, everyone works together like on a giant jigsaw puzzle.

If you have not yet explored some of the Jewish-themed projects on Geni, you
should take a look, as more are being added every day. Currently, the project
on Geni with the most attached profiles (over 17,400) is the Jews of Krakow
project managed by Pam Karp.
See http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Families-of-Krakow-Poland/12917

It takes just a click to join a project and not much more to create a new one.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Collaborative Genealogy #general

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I have an article in the new issue of Avotaynu entitled "Is Our Tree Better
Than My Tree? The Benefits and Pitfalls of Collaborative Genealogy." I
would welcome any feedback.

The Jewish Genealogy Portal on Geni now has 500 collaborators.
See http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Genealogy-Portal-A-Guide-to-Jewish-Projects-and-Resources-on-Geni/13121
[Moderator Note: Shortened URL - http://goo.gl/t3Miqz ]

The World Family Tree is now over 72 million profiles with almost 3 million
connected users. On Geni, everyone works together like on a giant jigsaw puzzle.

If you have not yet explored some of the Jewish-themed projects on Geni, you
should take a look, as more are being added every day. Currently, the project
on Geni with the most attached profiles (over 17,400) is the Jews of Krakow
project managed by Pam Karp.
See http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Families-of-Krakow-Poland/12917

It takes just a click to join a project and not much more to create a new one.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Help: Toronto Jewish Community Conversion Records? #general

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

I am helping a client research her family. She was born to a non-Jewish
Quebecois woman, last name DUMAS/DUMAIS in Toronto and adopted by a Jewish
family last name PLATNICK. I would be happy to provide first names and dates
in private but in the interest of protecting my client, I will not be
providing first names at this time.

Her birth was in 1960 in Toronto. As a baby, she was converted to Judaism by
her parents. We are interested in knowing if records exist in the Toronto
Jewish Community of conversions and if so, what kind of records might be
contained within them. We are looking for any bit of information that can
help her track down her birth mother for information on medical history.

The only other information I have that I can share publicly is that her
parents were unaffiliated at the time, but came >from a Jewish family that
was fairly prominent in the Toronto Jewish community.

Israel and Mollie EDELL were her mother's aunt and uncle and as I understand
it >from her, they were quite big in the Jewish community there.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
Akko, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help: Toronto Jewish Community Conversion Records? #general

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

I am helping a client research her family. She was born to a non-Jewish
Quebecois woman, last name DUMAS/DUMAIS in Toronto and adopted by a Jewish
family last name PLATNICK. I would be happy to provide first names and dates
in private but in the interest of protecting my client, I will not be
providing first names at this time.

Her birth was in 1960 in Toronto. As a baby, she was converted to Judaism by
her parents. We are interested in knowing if records exist in the Toronto
Jewish Community of conversions and if so, what kind of records might be
contained within them. We are looking for any bit of information that can
help her track down her birth mother for information on medical history.

The only other information I have that I can share publicly is that her
parents were unaffiliated at the time, but came >from a Jewish family that
was fairly prominent in the Toronto Jewish community.

Israel and Mollie EDELL were her mother's aunt and uncle and as I understand
it >from her, they were quite big in the Jewish community there.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
Akko, Israel


Jewish pediatricians: victims of persecution 1933-1945 #germany

Judith Elam
 

I ran across this on line book which has lists of Jewish pediatricians and their
fate - where they escaped to, those who committed suicide, and those who
were deported and where to. Most but not all were >from Germany.

http://tinyurl.com/l37cd5r

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI, elamj@hawaii.rr.com


German SIG #Germany Jewish pediatricians: victims of persecution 1933-1945 #germany

Judith Elam
 

I ran across this on line book which has lists of Jewish pediatricians and their
fate - where they escaped to, those who committed suicide, and those who
were deported and where to. Most but not all were >from Germany.

http://tinyurl.com/l37cd5r

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI, elamj@hawaii.rr.com


Re: meaning of Abbreviations used in old family tree #germany

ga304n@...
 

Michael Marx asked: abbreviations used with birth and death dates from
the 1700s that are not explained. Some are apparent, but not verm. ,

I suggest "vermisst" as in missing

George Arnstein min Washington, DC


German SIG #Germany Re: meaning of Abbreviations used in old family tree #germany

ga304n@...
 

Michael Marx asked: abbreviations used with birth and death dates from
the 1700s that are not explained. Some are apparent, but not verm. ,

I suggest "vermisst" as in missing

George Arnstein min Washington, DC


Shoah victims of Wiesbaden SITE CITE #germany

Judith Elam
 

Another of my "stumblings" took me to the Shoah victims of Wiesbaden. The
list below shows victims who lived in Wiesbaden, but the list also gives
their place and DOB, address, and deportation details.

[The list is dated July 20, 2011 - 38 pages, single spaced.]

http://www.paul-lazarus-stiftung.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Wiesbadener-O
PFERLISTE-vs.-110720-ENGLISCH.pdf

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI elamj@hawaii.rr.com


German SIG #Germany Shoah victims of Wiesbaden SITE CITE #germany

Judith Elam
 

Another of my "stumblings" took me to the Shoah victims of Wiesbaden. The
list below shows victims who lived in Wiesbaden, but the list also gives
their place and DOB, address, and deportation details.

[The list is dated July 20, 2011 - 38 pages, single spaced.]

http://www.paul-lazarus-stiftung.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Wiesbadener-O
PFERLISTE-vs.-110720-ENGLISCH.pdf

Judith Elam, Kihei, HI elamj@hawaii.rr.com

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