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Re: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The researcher who posted on this topic, Marilyn Robinson, might try looking
for other obits to see if they also state that there was the extra child.
In addition, it would be helpful to locate the estate record or will, if
available, for both of her great grandparents which might mention the
"missing" daughter/sister.

I have found over the years that oftentimes families may not retain the
memory of or know about children who might have remained in "der heim"
(the old country), have been >from a prior marriage, have physical or mental
defects, have married out, or had "farribles" (arguments) with their family.

One incident, I remember vividly, is that one of my relatives did not know
she was a twin as her twin had died shortly after birth and had not been
mentioned ever again. However, when I found her birth record in Lithuania,
there was the twin and his name recorded. I also remember that I found
that my grandmother was known to be one of four sisters only. Imagine my
surprise when I was chatting with an elderly relative who mentioned a fifth
sister Mary who had passed away in "der heim" as a toddler >from an illness
and had not been mentioned again.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The researcher who posted on this topic, Marilyn Robinson, might try looking
for other obits to see if they also state that there was the extra child.
In addition, it would be helpful to locate the estate record or will, if
available, for both of her great grandparents which might mention the
"missing" daughter/sister.

I have found over the years that oftentimes families may not retain the
memory of or know about children who might have remained in "der heim"
(the old country), have been >from a prior marriage, have physical or mental
defects, have married out, or had "farribles" (arguments) with their family.

One incident, I remember vividly, is that one of my relatives did not know
she was a twin as her twin had died shortly after birth and had not been
mentioned ever again. However, when I found her birth record in Lithuania,
there was the twin and his name recorded. I also remember that I found
that my grandmother was known to be one of four sisters only. Imagine my
surprise when I was chatting with an elderly relative who mentioned a fifth
sister Mary who had passed away in "der heim" as a toddler >from an illness
and had not been mentioned again.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or Shipliatkin #ukraine

manuel.meersohn@...
 

Dear fellow Geners,

Only yesterday I understood that my grandfather Meier Meyerson born in
Hola Prystan (near Kherson) on the 18th of December 1884 had the
following surname on his mother side: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin,
Shipliatky or Shipliatkin, anyone that recognize such names / places
or similar can please write to me privately? Thanks in advanced.
Manuel

Town: Pilyava, Surnames: Schajris, Shahris, Rybak, Shaharit, Goldbarg
Town: Hola Prystan, Surnames: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or
Shipliatkin, Meyerson, Gottlieb

e-mail manuel.meersohn@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or Shipliatkin #ukraine

manuel.meersohn@...
 

Dear fellow Geners,

Only yesterday I understood that my grandfather Meier Meyerson born in
Hola Prystan (near Kherson) on the 18th of December 1884 had the
following surname on his mother side: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin,
Shipliatky or Shipliatkin, anyone that recognize such names / places
or similar can please write to me privately? Thanks in advanced.
Manuel

Town: Pilyava, Surnames: Schajris, Shahris, Rybak, Shaharit, Goldbarg
Town: Hola Prystan, Surnames: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or
Shipliatkin, Meyerson, Gottlieb

e-mail manuel.meersohn@...


1819 Polish Census for Lublin #ukraine

barry_helfand@...
 

Has anyone had the experience of sending for or examining the 1819 census
for Lublin? Does the census have only given names but not surnames?

Barry Helfand
Upland, California


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine 1819 Polish Census for Lublin #ukraine

barry_helfand@...
 

Has anyone had the experience of sending for or examining the 1819 census
for Lublin? Does the census have only given names but not surnames?

Barry Helfand
Upland, California


Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or Shipliatkin #ukraine

manuel.meersohn@...
 

Dear fellow Geners,

Only yesterday I understood that my grandfather Meier Meyerson born in
Hola Prystan (near Kherson) on the 18th of December 1884 had the
following surname on his mother side: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin,
Shipliatky or Shipliatkin, anyone that recognize such names / places
or similar can please write to me privately? Thanks in advanced.
Manuel

Town: Pilyava, Surnames: Schajris, Shahris, Rybak, Shaharit, Goldbarg
Town: Hola Prystan, Surnames: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or
Shipliatkin, Meyerson, Gottlieb

e-mail manuel.meersohn@...

Moderator comment: For your privacy and protectiion, elephone numbers
are not permitted.


ViewMate translation request - Russian to English #ukraine

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

Please provide a direct translation >from Russian to English of 2 more
pages of Feige Weisman's 1906 passport/travel document. They are at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29620

Many thanks.

Judith Kloogman Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA

Researching: WEISMAN, VAYSMAN, NEIS, NIS, WARSAVSKY, WOLF, BEIN >from
Lubny, Poltava, Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or Shipliatkin #ukraine

manuel.meersohn@...
 

Dear fellow Geners,

Only yesterday I understood that my grandfather Meier Meyerson born in
Hola Prystan (near Kherson) on the 18th of December 1884 had the
following surname on his mother side: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin,
Shipliatky or Shipliatkin, anyone that recognize such names / places
or similar can please write to me privately? Thanks in advanced.
Manuel

Town: Pilyava, Surnames: Schajris, Shahris, Rybak, Shaharit, Goldbarg
Town: Hola Prystan, Surnames: Sipliatky, Sipliatkin, Shipliatky or
Shipliatkin, Meyerson, Gottlieb

e-mail manuel.meersohn@...

Moderator comment: For your privacy and protectiion, elephone numbers
are not permitted.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine ViewMate translation request - Russian to English #ukraine

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

Please provide a direct translation >from Russian to English of 2 more
pages of Feige Weisman's 1906 passport/travel document. They are at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29620

Many thanks.

Judith Kloogman Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA

Researching: WEISMAN, VAYSMAN, NEIS, NIS, WARSAVSKY, WOLF, BEIN >from
Lubny, Poltava, Ukraine


1819 Polish Census for Lublin #general

Barry Helfand <barry_helfand@...>
 

Has anyone had the experience of sending for or examining the 1819 census
for Lublin? Does the census have only given names but not surnames?

Barry Helfand
Upland, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1819 Polish Census for Lublin #general

Barry Helfand <barry_helfand@...>
 

Has anyone had the experience of sending for or examining the 1819 census
for Lublin? Does the census have only given names but not surnames?

Barry Helfand
Upland, California


ViewMate translation request--Russian #general

Deborah Dworski
 

Looking for help translating some Russian-language images I've posted
at ViewMate. Some or all of the pages may be part of one document,
but I really don't know. A kind volunteer has listed some of the
parties mentioned in a couple of the images, but I have no idea about
the content. Most likely they are vital records of some sort. All of
the pages pertain to the town of Golub Dobrzyn, Poland. Hopefully the
content will shed some light on the family of an elderly Holocaust
survivor.

Here are direct links:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29504
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29505
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29506
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29507
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29508

Please respond privately or via ViewMate.
Thank you in advance.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request--Russian #general

Deborah Dworski
 

Looking for help translating some Russian-language images I've posted
at ViewMate. Some or all of the pages may be part of one document,
but I really don't know. A kind volunteer has listed some of the
parties mentioned in a couple of the images, but I have no idea about
the content. Most likely they are vital records of some sort. All of
the pages pertain to the town of Golub Dobrzyn, Poland. Hopefully the
content will shed some light on the family of an elderly Holocaust
survivor.

Here are direct links:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29504
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29505
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29506
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29507
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29508

Please respond privately or via ViewMate.
Thank you in advance.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


Seminar on Rabbinic Genealogy #general

Garri Regev
 

On Monday, October 28, 2013 there will be a seminar at the National
Library of Israel on the Givat Ram campus >from 1:30 - 8 pm on "Sources
for Rabbinic Genealogy Research at the National Library".

Speakers include: Yosef Leichter, Rabbi Aviad Rosenberg and Yochai
Ben-Ghedalia; Rabbi Yehiel Goldhaber, Benjamin Panteliat; Prof.
Yitzchak Kerem, Mathilde Tagger.

The topics range >from how to do searches within the Library collections;
Rabbinical Mysteries - Case Studies >from Europe; Research Sources for
Sephardic Rabbis.

Entrance is free. The Seminar will be in Hebrew.
For more information: http://tinyurl.com/nli-genealogy1
[MODERATOR NOTE: original URL -
http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Hebrew/library/services/Genealogy_New/Pages/conference_28oct.aspx ]

Garri Regev
President, IGRA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seminar on Rabbinic Genealogy #general

Garri Regev
 

On Monday, October 28, 2013 there will be a seminar at the National
Library of Israel on the Givat Ram campus >from 1:30 - 8 pm on "Sources
for Rabbinic Genealogy Research at the National Library".

Speakers include: Yosef Leichter, Rabbi Aviad Rosenberg and Yochai
Ben-Ghedalia; Rabbi Yehiel Goldhaber, Benjamin Panteliat; Prof.
Yitzchak Kerem, Mathilde Tagger.

The topics range >from how to do searches within the Library collections;
Rabbinical Mysteries - Case Studies >from Europe; Research Sources for
Sephardic Rabbis.

Entrance is free. The Seminar will be in Hebrew.
For more information: http://tinyurl.com/nli-genealogy1
[MODERATOR NOTE: original URL -
http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Hebrew/library/services/Genealogy_New/Pages/conference_28oct.aspx ]

Garri Regev
President, IGRA


Re: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

jbonline1111@...
 

I had a similar issue in my family. The first child was a daughter
who died at childbirth. One story was that she froze to death while my
grandmother was being cared for, but that sounded unlikely. My one
advantage was that I knew if she existed she was born in Manhattan.

After talking to many family members without any result, she was
finally found on cemetery records as buried in Staten Island as baby
SLATAS, no given name. The death certificate listed her as stillborn.

My point is, there are many possible ways to search for this child. I
would start in the area where the family first settled and look for a
death certificate or cemetery listing that might fit.

Barbara Sloan
CT

Searching: SLATAS, SLONIMSKY and more


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

jbonline1111@...
 

I had a similar issue in my family. The first child was a daughter
who died at childbirth. One story was that she froze to death while my
grandmother was being cared for, but that sounded unlikely. My one
advantage was that I knew if she existed she was born in Manhattan.

After talking to many family members without any result, she was
finally found on cemetery records as buried in Staten Island as baby
SLATAS, no given name. The death certificate listed her as stillborn.

My point is, there are many possible ways to search for this child. I
would start in the area where the family first settled and look for a
death certificate or cemetery listing that might fit.

Barbara Sloan
CT

Searching: SLATAS, SLONIMSKY and more


Re: Montefiore Censuses of the Jewish population of Eretz Israel 1839-1875 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Richard,

Thanks a lot. No, I did not know about Montefiore Censuses, and found it
very interesting.

The only question I have, and maybe you have the answer... I am not seeing
the Surnames. These years Jews definitely had surnames if they came from
Russian Empire. I looked in Hebrew and there are no Surnames too.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Levine [mailto:richardslevine@...]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:05 AM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Montefiore Censuses of the Jewish population of Eretz Israel 1839-1875

Hello,

Please excuse me if this was already mentioned in the Bessarabia SIG. I
looked on Jewishgen and did not see mention of the Montefiore Censuses, but
I might have easily missed the database or a discussion of it..............

All the best,
Richard S. Levine
Clearwater, FL
RichardSLevine@...


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Montefiore Censuses of the Jewish population of Eretz Israel 1839-1875 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Richard,

Thanks a lot. No, I did not know about Montefiore Censuses, and found it
very interesting.

The only question I have, and maybe you have the answer... I am not seeing
the Surnames. These years Jews definitely had surnames if they came from
Russian Empire. I looked in Hebrew and there are no Surnames too.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Levine [mailto:richardslevine@...]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:05 AM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Montefiore Censuses of the Jewish population of Eretz Israel 1839-1875

Hello,

Please excuse me if this was already mentioned in the Bessarabia SIG. I
looked on Jewishgen and did not see mention of the Montefiore Censuses, but
I might have easily missed the database or a discussion of it..............

All the best,
Richard S. Levine
Clearwater, FL
RichardSLevine@...