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Viewmate translation needed: Lithuanian or Russian? #general

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear Genners,

I've posted a vital record which may be either Russian or Lithuanian, we
cannot tell, for which I need a translation. The family name may be
either Abramovich or Abramson. It is on ViewMate at the following
address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM31993

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much for any possible assistance.

Rosanne Leeson
Palo Alto, CA USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation needed: Lithuanian or Russian? #general

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear Genners,

I've posted a vital record which may be either Russian or Lithuanian, we
cannot tell, for which I need a translation. The family name may be
either Abramovich or Abramson. It is on ViewMate at the following
address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM31993

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much for any possible assistance.

Rosanne Leeson
Palo Alto, CA USA


Searching: EHRLICH, KESLER, SHERMAN, COHEN, NEWMAN, HAUS #general

Scott Ehrlich <scott@...>
 

Hello to all:

I am researching all four branches of my family at one time.

This is in honor and memory of my late, beloved father, Robert Sherman
Ehrlich, 18-March-1935 to 31-March-2013.

With my mom, Margery (Cohen) Ehrlich, the surviving parent, we are
engaged in the family tree project started by me just last summer.

We have built the four branches to about mid 1800s, knowing all four
come >from Russia.

With the help of some great resources, I tracked down my paternal
great grandfather, with the help of ancestry.com's US Citizenship
paper discovery, to Lviv, Ukraine. >from there, another resource led
me to jri-poland.org, where I learned about his wife's maiden name,
Rebecca Kesler, and of his father, Joseph Ehrlich, and some siblings.

I am now trying to work the remaining three branches - Sherman (also
paternal), along with my maternal side of Cohen and Newman.

My family tree is open to all (or should be) on ancestry.com

I have tried the jri-poland.org link for the remaining names and did
not find much. I also have some Sherman possible relatives working
the Sherman end.

My father-in-law, Joel Alpert, told my mom and me about the
Jewishgen/FamilyTreeDNA testing he did, and I was sold so I dd it,
along with ancestry.com and 23andme, to get as much info about myself
as possible.

I sold my mom on FTDNA and several of the Shermans who are helping me.

Any and all help would be great appreciated >from historical database
searching of Russia.

My goal is not only to go back as far as possible, but to extend laterally
as well. Rumor has it I am also related to the Nobel Prize winning Dr. Paul
Ehrlich, and my great grandfather's (Simon Ehrlich) World War II
draft registration card (also >from ancestry.com) mentions a cousin
"Harry Ehrlich" in New York as his closest relative. Family legend
has it that Simon and Paul kept in touch. It would also be great to know
how Harry and Paul fit in.

Many mysteries - research tools, people, whatever it takes.

Thanks to all!

Scott Ehrlich, Boston, Massachusetts, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: EHRLICH, KESLER, SHERMAN, COHEN, NEWMAN, HAUS #general

Scott Ehrlich <scott@...>
 

Hello to all:

I am researching all four branches of my family at one time.

This is in honor and memory of my late, beloved father, Robert Sherman
Ehrlich, 18-March-1935 to 31-March-2013.

With my mom, Margery (Cohen) Ehrlich, the surviving parent, we are
engaged in the family tree project started by me just last summer.

We have built the four branches to about mid 1800s, knowing all four
come >from Russia.

With the help of some great resources, I tracked down my paternal
great grandfather, with the help of ancestry.com's US Citizenship
paper discovery, to Lviv, Ukraine. >from there, another resource led
me to jri-poland.org, where I learned about his wife's maiden name,
Rebecca Kesler, and of his father, Joseph Ehrlich, and some siblings.

I am now trying to work the remaining three branches - Sherman (also
paternal), along with my maternal side of Cohen and Newman.

My family tree is open to all (or should be) on ancestry.com

I have tried the jri-poland.org link for the remaining names and did
not find much. I also have some Sherman possible relatives working
the Sherman end.

My father-in-law, Joel Alpert, told my mom and me about the
Jewishgen/FamilyTreeDNA testing he did, and I was sold so I dd it,
along with ancestry.com and 23andme, to get as much info about myself
as possible.

I sold my mom on FTDNA and several of the Shermans who are helping me.

Any and all help would be great appreciated >from historical database
searching of Russia.

My goal is not only to go back as far as possible, but to extend laterally
as well. Rumor has it I am also related to the Nobel Prize winning Dr. Paul
Ehrlich, and my great grandfather's (Simon Ehrlich) World War II
draft registration card (also >from ancestry.com) mentions a cousin
"Harry Ehrlich" in New York as his closest relative. Family legend
has it that Simon and Paul kept in touch. It would also be great to know
how Harry and Paul fit in.

Many mysteries - research tools, people, whatever it takes.

Thanks to all!

Scott Ehrlich, Boston, Massachusetts, USA


Re: Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! #general

André Günther
 

Hi Roger,

you should have mentioned, that the person must have MOVED in this
period - otherwise it's logical that he/she is missing.
90-95 % of all cards exist!

Regards Andre Munich


snip......Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both within
Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.
snip........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen AW: Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! #general

André Günther
 

Hi Roger,

you should have mentioned, that the person must have MOVED in this
period - otherwise it's logical that he/she is missing.
90-95 % of all cards exist!

Regards Andre Munich


snip......Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both within
Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.
snip........


GerSIGer Richard Oppenheimer & Obermayer Awardee Johannes Grotecke in the Sarasota Herald #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

GerSIG member Richard Oppenheimer is the subject of an article in the
Sarasota (Florida) Herald Newspaper. The article is lively,
interesting reading. It includes informaton about the
German Jewish History Awards as well as the Oppenheimer family's
Holocaust experience. http://tinyurl.com/mbzkacf

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20140125/ARCHIVES/401251026/-1/todayspaper?Title=Exploring-a-painful-past-with-an-unlikely-assist

The story begins: "Richard Oppenheimer has to pause and collect
himself as he recalls a German schoolteacher telling him more about
his late mother's Holocaust ordeal than she had shared with him -- her
own son.
This was back in 2011. The man's name was Johannes Grotecke.
Grotecke was >from Bad Wildungen, >from which Oppenheimer's mother had
been evicted during the Nazi purges."

Both Mr. Oppenheimer and Mr. Grotecke, an Obermayer Awardee, are now
in Berlin for the Obermayer Awards program there.
"Coinciding with the Jan. 27, 1945, liberation of Auschwitz, the ceremonies
also are sponsored by the president of the Berlin Parliament [and GerSIG,
a division of] JewishGen, an Internet genealogy group."

GerSIG Moderator with thanks to Karen Franklin


German SIG #Germany GerSIGer Richard Oppenheimer & Obermayer Awardee Johannes Grotecke in the Sarasota Herald #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

GerSIG member Richard Oppenheimer is the subject of an article in the
Sarasota (Florida) Herald Newspaper. The article is lively,
interesting reading. It includes informaton about the
German Jewish History Awards as well as the Oppenheimer family's
Holocaust experience. http://tinyurl.com/mbzkacf

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20140125/ARCHIVES/401251026/-1/todayspaper?Title=Exploring-a-painful-past-with-an-unlikely-assist

The story begins: "Richard Oppenheimer has to pause and collect
himself as he recalls a German schoolteacher telling him more about
his late mother's Holocaust ordeal than she had shared with him -- her
own son.
This was back in 2011. The man's name was Johannes Grotecke.
Grotecke was >from Bad Wildungen, >from which Oppenheimer's mother had
been evicted during the Nazi purges."

Both Mr. Oppenheimer and Mr. Grotecke, an Obermayer Awardee, are now
in Berlin for the Obermayer Awards program there.
"Coinciding with the Jan. 27, 1945, liberation of Auschwitz, the ceremonies
also are sponsored by the president of the Berlin Parliament [and GerSIG,
a division of] JewishGen, an Internet genealogy group."

GerSIG Moderator with thanks to Karen Franklin


Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! (Take 3) #general

Roger Lustig
 

[Slight revision of my previous revision, with thanks to Joachim Mugdan
re: alphabetical order]

[Slight revision of my previous post: better link.]

Dear all:

Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both
within Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.

The Polish State Archive image web site had uploaded images of the cards
alphabetized A through L and the first part of M.

I just noticed that the rest of M plus N through R have been uploaded.

==NEW==> The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order. However,
this order is generally based on the Polish spelling of a particular
name: ALEKSANDR instead of ALEXANDER, RAJCH instead of REICH. To find
the Polish spelling of a name that interests you, do a Soundex search in
the Family Finder or at JRI-Poland and see what spellings come up under
Poland. If the name in question is an unusual one, search on one that
starts the same way. <==NEW==

The cards are cataloged in groups of 500 to 1000 images each. (Some
cards have info on both sides!)

As many have remarked, the site gives excellent images (and lots of
them) but is not particularly user-friendly, especially for us who don't
know much Polish. The collection in question (Posnan Archive 474:
Records of the City of Posen) is cataloged on the site in such a way to
make it nearly impossible to find what one wants among the 26,000+
items, all of which are listed although about 97% of them aren't on line
(yet). In fact, the only part of the collection that's available is this
set of cards.

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/str/1/100#tabJednostki

gets you to the alphabetical list of those groups.

That page and the next 10 link to a summary page for each group (click
on any column in the row you want). ==NEW==> The last 3 pages are
reserved for S through Z, so there's no need to look past page 8 for the
moment. <==NEW==

from there, click on "Digital Copies" to the right of the red arrow
with the call number in it.

That will get you to a page of 15 thumbnails. You can set the page size
as high as 100 thumbnails.

Click on one of them to see a medium-sized image. You can page through
these fairly quickly. The image display has a feature that will give you
an enlarged version in a separate window.

The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order, but this is not
always exactly the case, so if you're not sure you've found everything
you need, cast your net a little wider!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG
Prussian Poland coordinator, JRI-Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! (Take 3) #general

Roger Lustig
 

[Slight revision of my previous revision, with thanks to Joachim Mugdan
re: alphabetical order]

[Slight revision of my previous post: better link.]

Dear all:

Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both
within Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.

The Polish State Archive image web site had uploaded images of the cards
alphabetized A through L and the first part of M.

I just noticed that the rest of M plus N through R have been uploaded.

==NEW==> The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order. However,
this order is generally based on the Polish spelling of a particular
name: ALEKSANDR instead of ALEXANDER, RAJCH instead of REICH. To find
the Polish spelling of a name that interests you, do a Soundex search in
the Family Finder or at JRI-Poland and see what spellings come up under
Poland. If the name in question is an unusual one, search on one that
starts the same way. <==NEW==

The cards are cataloged in groups of 500 to 1000 images each. (Some
cards have info on both sides!)

As many have remarked, the site gives excellent images (and lots of
them) but is not particularly user-friendly, especially for us who don't
know much Polish. The collection in question (Posnan Archive 474:
Records of the City of Posen) is cataloged on the site in such a way to
make it nearly impossible to find what one wants among the 26,000+
items, all of which are listed although about 97% of them aren't on line
(yet). In fact, the only part of the collection that's available is this
set of cards.

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/str/1/100#tabJednostki

gets you to the alphabetical list of those groups.

That page and the next 10 link to a summary page for each group (click
on any column in the row you want). ==NEW==> The last 3 pages are
reserved for S through Z, so there's no need to look past page 8 for the
moment. <==NEW==

from there, click on "Digital Copies" to the right of the red arrow
with the call number in it.

That will get you to a page of 15 thumbnails. You can set the page size
as high as 100 thumbnails.

Click on one of them to see a medium-sized image. You can page through
these fairly quickly. The image display has a feature that will give you
an enlarged version in a separate window.

The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order, but this is not
always exactly the case, so if you're not sure you've found everything
you need, cast your net a little wider!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG
Prussian Poland coordinator, JRI-Poland


Help with US Census #general

bernerfolk
 

I've tried everything I can think of but I'm not having any luck
finding my GGF in the 1900 and 1930 censuses on ancestry so I'm hoping
Genners can offer suggestions on where and how to look further. What I
know:

May 15, 1899 birth certificate for son Abram:
Mendel FRIEDENBERG and wife Gitel (nee COHEN)
Residence 93 Norfolk St.
Manhattan, NY

1901 Jersey City, NJ Directory:
Max FRIEDENBERG
residence: 476 Henderson
Jersey City, New Jersey
Occupation: Fancy Goods

ca 1905-1909 wife Gitel>Katherine>Kate died.
ca 1908-1909 Max married Jennie.

1929 Newark, NJ Directory:
Max FRIEDENBERG
Residence: 14 Belmont av
Newark, New Jersey

Max's children (there may be others in the household >from his wive's
pervious marriages):
Szlama>Sam b.1882 Szrensk, Russia (now Poland)
Unknown>Oscar b. ca 1887 Szrensk , died in US a short time after his
bar mitzvoh
Josek>Joseph b. 1889 Szrensk
Abram >Abe b. 1899 NY
Rose b. 1901 NY
Jack b. 1904
Henrietta>Harriet>Hattie b. ca 1910
Ethel b. 1913

Any suggestions?
Sherri Venditti
in the frigid Berkshires, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with US Census #general

bernerfolk
 

I've tried everything I can think of but I'm not having any luck
finding my GGF in the 1900 and 1930 censuses on ancestry so I'm hoping
Genners can offer suggestions on where and how to look further. What I
know:

May 15, 1899 birth certificate for son Abram:
Mendel FRIEDENBERG and wife Gitel (nee COHEN)
Residence 93 Norfolk St.
Manhattan, NY

1901 Jersey City, NJ Directory:
Max FRIEDENBERG
residence: 476 Henderson
Jersey City, New Jersey
Occupation: Fancy Goods

ca 1905-1909 wife Gitel>Katherine>Kate died.
ca 1908-1909 Max married Jennie.

1929 Newark, NJ Directory:
Max FRIEDENBERG
Residence: 14 Belmont av
Newark, New Jersey

Max's children (there may be others in the household >from his wive's
pervious marriages):
Szlama>Sam b.1882 Szrensk, Russia (now Poland)
Unknown>Oscar b. ca 1887 Szrensk , died in US a short time after his
bar mitzvoh
Josek>Joseph b. 1889 Szrensk
Abram >Abe b. 1899 NY
Rose b. 1901 NY
Jack b. 1904
Henrietta>Harriet>Hattie b. ca 1910
Ethel b. 1913

Any suggestions?
Sherri Venditti
in the frigid Berkshires, USA


Petak Tikva help #general

David Edelman
 

Dear fellow Genners >from Petak Tikva;
I am trying to locate a cousin, Moshi Perry Fraidenberg, had been on
Remez St (I do not know how old this info is though,) but I am unable
to locate any email for him.
If you are able to locate him, let him know a cousin is trying to get in touch:
peachpappa@gmail.com
Thank you all so much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please, unless information is
of general interest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Petak Tikva help #general

David Edelman
 

Dear fellow Genners >from Petak Tikva;
I am trying to locate a cousin, Moshi Perry Fraidenberg, had been on
Remez St (I do not know how old this info is though,) but I am unable
to locate any email for him.
If you are able to locate him, let him know a cousin is trying to get in touch:
peachpappa@gmail.com
Thank you all so much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please, unless information is
of general interest


Seeking descendants of Meyer or Boruch Korsunsky from Philadelphia #general

Sheila Toffell
 

I am researching my KARSUNSKY / KORSUNSKY family >from the Stavische /
Tarasche area of Kiev Gubernia. This is what I know: My own Korsunsky family
lived in Stavische until the early1900's and then moved to Tarasche - maybe
when many of their children left the country. My GGF Velvel Korsunsky had 9
children of which we only know of 3, with the vague memory of a 4th.
Velvel's brother Mottel married 3 times, there are children >from these
marriages and although some names are known there are probably others.

Having laid out the background, here is my current quest: I recently found
an Ellis Island passenger list that includes the name of MEYER KORSUNSKY,
aged 20 who came to the US after a stay in London, but who was originally
from Tarasche. He was being met by his brother "BUROCH" KORSUNSKY whose
address is listed as 755 S. 3rd St Philadelphia.

The Korsunsky name has usually been changed to Carson or Karson in later
years. Does anyone have a connection to this family?

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ

Researching:
from Ukraine: KARSUNSKY / KORSUNSKY >from STAVISCHE OR TARASCHE, BRIZINOV /
BREZHNEV >from ROVNOYE (YELISVETOGRAD)
from Poland: LAKUMSKI >from SKULSK, RACHWALSKI/ROCHWALSKI >from SLESIN OR
SOMPOLNO ( all Kalisz Gubernia)
TOFFEL / TAFEL >from JOSEFOW NAD WISLA, OPOLE LUBIELSKI or
OSTROW MAZOWIECKA (all Lublin Gubernia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking descendants of Meyer or Boruch Korsunsky from Philadelphia #general

Sheila Toffell
 

I am researching my KARSUNSKY / KORSUNSKY family >from the Stavische /
Tarasche area of Kiev Gubernia. This is what I know: My own Korsunsky family
lived in Stavische until the early1900's and then moved to Tarasche - maybe
when many of their children left the country. My GGF Velvel Korsunsky had 9
children of which we only know of 3, with the vague memory of a 4th.
Velvel's brother Mottel married 3 times, there are children >from these
marriages and although some names are known there are probably others.

Having laid out the background, here is my current quest: I recently found
an Ellis Island passenger list that includes the name of MEYER KORSUNSKY,
aged 20 who came to the US after a stay in London, but who was originally
from Tarasche. He was being met by his brother "BUROCH" KORSUNSKY whose
address is listed as 755 S. 3rd St Philadelphia.

The Korsunsky name has usually been changed to Carson or Karson in later
years. Does anyone have a connection to this family?

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ

Researching:
from Ukraine: KARSUNSKY / KORSUNSKY >from STAVISCHE OR TARASCHE, BRIZINOV /
BREZHNEV >from ROVNOYE (YELISVETOGRAD)
from Poland: LAKUMSKI >from SKULSK, RACHWALSKI/ROCHWALSKI >from SLESIN OR
SOMPOLNO ( all Kalisz Gubernia)
TOFFEL / TAFEL >from JOSEFOW NAD WISLA, OPOLE LUBIELSKI or
OSTROW MAZOWIECKA (all Lublin Gubernia)


[Netherlands] Another Free Newspaper and Book Site #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

My recent posting about the https://www.wiewaswie.nl/ site for free access
to newspapers in the Netherlands resulted in Gershon Lehrer replying about
another excellent free site for newspapers and books:

http://kranten.delpher.nl/ They have newspapers >from 1618 - 1995-over 9
million pages old newspapers >from the Dutch East Indies, Suriname, the
Netherlands Antilles and the United States. I put several "Jewish sounding
names" into the search box "zoek" and many results were found. Using Google
translate helps with understanding what you have found. The site also has
more than 90,000 books[ publications] >from the 18th and 19th centuries-- the
(special) collections of the university libraries of Leiden and Amsterdam
(UvA) and the Royal Library. This includes over two million pages >from more
than 11,000 old prints >from the Dutch-speaking region >from the period
1781-1800. Also included are 1.5 million pages >from 80 old journal titles
that have appeared in the second half of the 19th century and the first half
of the 20th century.

Thank you Gershon Lehrer >from Antwerp about advising us of this very
interesting site.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [Netherlands] Another Free Newspaper and Book Site #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

My recent posting about the https://www.wiewaswie.nl/ site for free access
to newspapers in the Netherlands resulted in Gershon Lehrer replying about
another excellent free site for newspapers and books:

http://kranten.delpher.nl/ They have newspapers >from 1618 - 1995-over 9
million pages old newspapers >from the Dutch East Indies, Suriname, the
Netherlands Antilles and the United States. I put several "Jewish sounding
names" into the search box "zoek" and many results were found. Using Google
translate helps with understanding what you have found. The site also has
more than 90,000 books[ publications] >from the 18th and 19th centuries-- the
(special) collections of the university libraries of Leiden and Amsterdam
(UvA) and the Royal Library. This includes over two million pages >from more
than 11,000 old prints >from the Dutch-speaking region >from the period
1781-1800. Also included are 1.5 million pages >from 80 old journal titles
that have appeared in the second half of the 19th century and the first half
of the 20th century.

Thank you Gershon Lehrer >from Antwerp about advising us of this very
interesting site.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Help finding relatives buried in Miami #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

I recently saw someone was asking for help finding where relatives are
buried in a city, so I thought I might do the same.
I would appreciate any help finding where 3 relatives are buried in
Miami.
One is great uncle Louis Hartz (born Louis Herz) born 30 November 1878
in Nuembrecht, Germany, died 28 August 1943 in Miami, Florida

I am also looking for his wife, Ida Hartz (born Ida Reinheimer and
original married name Ida Herz), born 28 March 1875 in Beerfelden,
Germany, died 23 April 1971 in Miami, Florida.


The other grave I am looking for is Ida and Louis's daughter Jennie
Hartz Gordon (born 6 July 1909 in Schulyer Falls, NY, died 27 April
1971 in Miami. )

Jennie's son is buried in Mount Nebo Cemetery in Miami, but I can find
no evidence that the others are. I have been unable through Find a Grave
or ancestry.com to find where some relatives were buried. I'm sure it
would have been in Miami.

Jennie was married before and had the name Rotford for a while, but I
doubt that would be on her grave.

I found out recently that Ida was also my grandfather's first cousin.
Her husband and my grandfather had different mothers, and I found on her
marriage certificate that she was a Reinheimer born in Beerfelden, like
my great grandmother. Through much searching I found that Aunt Ida's
father was my great grandmother's brother. Wish I had known that when
she was alive. For one thing, I could have asked many questions. Now
that i know that Ida and Jennie are related to me on two sides of the
family, I am more anxious than ever to find out where they are buried
for our records.

Thank you so much.
Lin Herz,
Palm Bay, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help finding relatives buried in Miami #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

I recently saw someone was asking for help finding where relatives are
buried in a city, so I thought I might do the same.
I would appreciate any help finding where 3 relatives are buried in
Miami.
One is great uncle Louis Hartz (born Louis Herz) born 30 November 1878
in Nuembrecht, Germany, died 28 August 1943 in Miami, Florida

I am also looking for his wife, Ida Hartz (born Ida Reinheimer and
original married name Ida Herz), born 28 March 1875 in Beerfelden,
Germany, died 23 April 1971 in Miami, Florida.


The other grave I am looking for is Ida and Louis's daughter Jennie
Hartz Gordon (born 6 July 1909 in Schulyer Falls, NY, died 27 April
1971 in Miami. )

Jennie's son is buried in Mount Nebo Cemetery in Miami, but I can find
no evidence that the others are. I have been unable through Find a Grave
or ancestry.com to find where some relatives were buried. I'm sure it
would have been in Miami.

Jennie was married before and had the name Rotford for a while, but I
doubt that would be on her grave.

I found out recently that Ida was also my grandfather's first cousin.
Her husband and my grandfather had different mothers, and I found on her
marriage certificate that she was a Reinheimer born in Beerfelden, like
my great grandmother. Through much searching I found that Aunt Ida's
father was my great grandmother's brother. Wish I had known that when
she was alive. For one thing, I could have asked many questions. Now
that i know that Ida and Jennie are related to me on two sides of the
family, I am more anxious than ever to find out where they are buried
for our records.

Thank you so much.
Lin Herz,
Palm Bay, Florida

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