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Re: bessarabia digest: March 22, 2014 #bessarabia

Gillian King <gillianking@...>
 

Hello Judite,
If you just bring the article up on your screen, if you have Google, you
will see a box to tick that will translate to English

-----Original Message-----
1. RE: Lipkany Jewish Cemetery destroyed!
From: "Orensztajn" <cjoren@...>


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Re: bessarabia digest: March 22, 2014 #bessarabia

Gillian King <gillianking@...>
 

Hello Judite,
If you just bring the article up on your screen, if you have Google, you
will see a box to tick that will translate to English

-----Original Message-----
1. RE: Lipkany Jewish Cemetery destroyed!
From: "Orensztajn" <cjoren@...>


Lipcani cemetery #bessarabia

ab.cohen@...
 

Looking at the photo that accompanies the article there seem to be an unusual number of
crosses on the graves for a jewish cemetery.

Was it rally the Jewish cemetery that burned?

Alan Cohen
researching GLAZER >from Lipcani.


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Lipcani cemetery #bessarabia

ab.cohen@...
 

Looking at the photo that accompanies the article there seem to be an unusual number of
crosses on the graves for a jewish cemetery.

Was it rally the Jewish cemetery that burned?

Alan Cohen
researching GLAZER >from Lipcani.


Lipkany Jewish Cemetery destroyed! #bessarabia

Wendy Freebourne <art@...>
 

================ Were these news published in English? I would like to share
them with my friends that, as me, can't read the Cyrillic alphabet.

Judite. If you go to Google Translate, you can easily translate the text
from Russian to English.
Wendy Freebourne


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Lipkany Jewish Cemetery destroyed! #bessarabia

Wendy Freebourne <art@...>
 

================ Were these news published in English? I would like to share
them with my friends that, as me, can't read the Cyrillic alphabet.

Judite. If you go to Google Translate, you can easily translate the text
from Russian to English.
Wendy Freebourne


Re: What after Ellis Island? #belarus

yael polat
 

I found two relatives, coming in 1908 to the States (Goldin from
Mogilev, but it's not the issue).
I can't find them in censuses later, 1910, 1920 etc..
I understand, there are many explanations to that: change of names or
spelling, moving to Canada etc.
Any ideas to find a hint to what happened to them?

Yael Polat
Israel
Looking for Dinin, Lopatnik, Weinberg, Suissa, Benadi


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: What after Ellis Island? #ukraine

yael polat
 

I found two relatives, coming in 1908 to the States (Goldin from
Mogilev, but it's not the issue).
I can't find them in censuses later, 1910, 1920 etc..
I understand, there are many explanations to that: change of names or
spelling, moving to Canada etc.
Any ideas to find a hint to what happened to them?

Yael Polat
Israel
Looking for Dinin, Lopatnik, Weinberg, Suissa, Benadi


Corrected URL: Announcing the 1910 Tarnopol Census of the Jewish Population on the All Galicia Database #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

The URL for the Tarnopol 1910 Jewish Census was listed incorrectly in
the earlier posting. It should be:

http://search.geshergalicia.org

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Corrected URL: Announcing the 1910 Tarnopol Census of the Jewish Population on the All Galicia Database #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

The URL for the Tarnopol 1910 Jewish Census was listed incorrectly in
the earlier posting. It should be:

http://search.geshergalicia.org

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...


Name change in 1866 - THIER #lithuania

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Dr. Alexander Beider's "A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the
Russian Empire, Revised Edition" (DJSRE2) published by Avotaynu
contains etymology/origin of
surnames.
< http://www.avotaynu.com/books/DJSRE2.htm >

The Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Code for THIER IS 390000 and the
Beider-Morse Phonetic Tokens are TIR TIIR TJER.

Beider's DJSRE2 Volume 2 "Listing of Surnames by the Daitch-Mokotoff
Soundex System" lists code 390000 surnames DAR, DER, DOR, DREJ, DRUE,
DRUI, DRUJ, TAER, TAR, TER, TIR, TOER, TOR, TREJ, TUR, TURIJ, TURYJ, TYR.

Upyna (15 miles NNE of Taurage) and Tytuvenai (16 miles NNE of
Raseiniai), Lithuania were both in Rossieny (Raseiniai) district,
Kovno, Russian Empire before WWI.

LitvakSIG's All Lithuania Database (ALD) search results for "sounds
like" THEIR lists 390 matches.
< http://www.litvaksig.org/component/litvaksearch/?view=ald >

Records for Upyna, Tytuvenai and Taurage are included in LitvakSIG's
Raseiniai District Research Group.
<http://www.litvaksig.org/district-research/raseiniai-district-research
-group?task=article >

JewishGen Family Finder lists 10 researchers for "sounds like" THIER in
Lithuania including surnames TYRE, DREY, TOOR, THIER in Upyna, Taurage,
Kaunas and Skapiskis.

Skapiskis was Skopishki in Novo-Aleksandrovsk district, Kovno and is
located 88.7 miles ENE of Raseiniai.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ >

Bette Stoop Mas
USA

Naomi Silverton <naomisil@...> wrote:
<< I am trying to find our original Family Name, and thus their family,
but so far have not been able to see anything resembling this.
My great grandfather, known to our family as Hermann Tzvi Silberstein
was born in 1839 in Taurage, Kowno Gubernia, Russian Empire. We have
been told by my father and uncle that the name was THIER (animal in
German). He married Johanna Deborah Rollnik in Upyna and had two boys
- Moritz in 1863 and Wilhelm in 1865 both born in Upyna. (I have
documents stating this). Hermann and Johanna THIER Silberstein left
Upyna with their 2 sons, in about 1866, and crossed the border into
Germany and settled in Nakel Germany, now Naklo Poland where their 3
other children were born.

The story goes that when crossing the border they took on the papers of
someone by the name of SILBERSTEIN - the reason varies with different
relatives. We have found all the Rollnik relatives and we know all
the Silberstein descendants.
We don't know anything about Hermann Tzvi Silberstein's siblings or
aunts or uncles. Hermann died in 1912 in Berlin ( he was 73 years)
and on the death certificate it is stated that his parents Juda and
Chaja Silberstein lived in Zitowian (Tytuvenai) before their deaths.
We have not been able to find any name pertaining to THIER in the
records. When I have researched the name THIER people with this name
have their origin in Austria and Hungary. THIER may have been a
Yiddish name, as I don't think 'H' is in the Russian alphabet.

I am wondering if anyone could help in directing me where to look.
What could THIER be transcribed to in the Census of that time? >>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Name change in 1866 - THIER #lithuania

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Dr. Alexander Beider's "A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the
Russian Empire, Revised Edition" (DJSRE2) published by Avotaynu
contains etymology/origin of
surnames.
< http://www.avotaynu.com/books/DJSRE2.htm >

The Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Code for THIER IS 390000 and the
Beider-Morse Phonetic Tokens are TIR TIIR TJER.

Beider's DJSRE2 Volume 2 "Listing of Surnames by the Daitch-Mokotoff
Soundex System" lists code 390000 surnames DAR, DER, DOR, DREJ, DRUE,
DRUI, DRUJ, TAER, TAR, TER, TIR, TOER, TOR, TREJ, TUR, TURIJ, TURYJ, TYR.

Upyna (15 miles NNE of Taurage) and Tytuvenai (16 miles NNE of
Raseiniai), Lithuania were both in Rossieny (Raseiniai) district,
Kovno, Russian Empire before WWI.

LitvakSIG's All Lithuania Database (ALD) search results for "sounds
like" THEIR lists 390 matches.
< http://www.litvaksig.org/component/litvaksearch/?view=ald >

Records for Upyna, Tytuvenai and Taurage are included in LitvakSIG's
Raseiniai District Research Group.
<http://www.litvaksig.org/district-research/raseiniai-district-research
-group?task=article >

JewishGen Family Finder lists 10 researchers for "sounds like" THIER in
Lithuania including surnames TYRE, DREY, TOOR, THIER in Upyna, Taurage,
Kaunas and Skapiskis.

Skapiskis was Skopishki in Novo-Aleksandrovsk district, Kovno and is
located 88.7 miles ENE of Raseiniai.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ >

Bette Stoop Mas
USA

Naomi Silverton <naomisil@...> wrote:
<< I am trying to find our original Family Name, and thus their family,
but so far have not been able to see anything resembling this.
My great grandfather, known to our family as Hermann Tzvi Silberstein
was born in 1839 in Taurage, Kowno Gubernia, Russian Empire. We have
been told by my father and uncle that the name was THIER (animal in
German). He married Johanna Deborah Rollnik in Upyna and had two boys
- Moritz in 1863 and Wilhelm in 1865 both born in Upyna. (I have
documents stating this). Hermann and Johanna THIER Silberstein left
Upyna with their 2 sons, in about 1866, and crossed the border into
Germany and settled in Nakel Germany, now Naklo Poland where their 3
other children were born.

The story goes that when crossing the border they took on the papers of
someone by the name of SILBERSTEIN - the reason varies with different
relatives. We have found all the Rollnik relatives and we know all
the Silberstein descendants.
We don't know anything about Hermann Tzvi Silberstein's siblings or
aunts or uncles. Hermann died in 1912 in Berlin ( he was 73 years)
and on the death certificate it is stated that his parents Juda and
Chaja Silberstein lived in Zitowian (Tytuvenai) before their deaths.
We have not been able to find any name pertaining to THIER in the
records. When I have researched the name THIER people with this name
have their origin in Austria and Hungary. THIER may have been a
Yiddish name, as I don't think 'H' is in the Russian alphabet.

I am wondering if anyone could help in directing me where to look.
What could THIER be transcribed to in the Census of that time? >>


Re: Family name: Baron #general

Roger Lustig
 

Dear Andrew:
There are Jews named KAISER, KOENIG (king), FUERST (prince), GRAF
(count) and HERZOG (duke), so why not BARON?

Lars Menk suggests bar-On ("son of strength"), Ben Rav Nachman
(acronym), etc., so your guess may be good too.

BARON was used as a surname before most Jews adopted such; Louis Lewin
reports its presence in Lissa since 1777.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Lenard, Andrew wrote:
What could be the origin of the family name "Baron?" It seems to occur
among Jews. Could it come >from "ben Aaron?" Any suggestion would be
welcome.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family name: Baron #general

Roger Lustig
 

Dear Andrew:
There are Jews named KAISER, KOENIG (king), FUERST (prince), GRAF
(count) and HERZOG (duke), so why not BARON?

Lars Menk suggests bar-On ("son of strength"), Ben Rav Nachman
(acronym), etc., so your guess may be good too.

BARON was used as a surname before most Jews adopted such; Louis Lewin
reports its presence in Lissa since 1777.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Lenard, Andrew wrote:
What could be the origin of the family name "Baron?" It seems to occur
among Jews. Could it come >from "ben Aaron?" Any suggestion would be
welcome.


Viewmate translation request - Old German #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

Fellow Jewishgenners, I've posted a vital record in Old German for
which I need a translation of one word. I am seeking only a translation
of Moses Strasfeld's (my great-great-grandfather's) occupation. The document
is on ViewMate at the following address.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=32770

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Dave Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina
davestra@...
researching STRASFELD/STREISFELD (in Galicia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation request - Old German #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

Fellow Jewishgenners, I've posted a vital record in Old German for
which I need a translation of one word. I am seeking only a translation
of Moses Strasfeld's (my great-great-grandfather's) occupation. The document
is on ViewMate at the following address.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=32770

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Dave Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina
davestra@...
researching STRASFELD/STREISFELD (in Galicia)


Searching OSTWALD from Horde and Belecke #general

Steve Groeger <sgroeger@...>
 

I have reason to believe my great grandmother Rosalie OSTWALD Rosenthal
was born in Horde May 10,1860 and her sister Bertha OSTWALD Fleishhacker was
born April 27, 1858 also in Horde. Their father, my great great grandfather,
Menke OSTWALD was born August 10, 1810 in Belecke. I would like to obtain
documentation that will confirm this as well as expanding my ancestry
search.

Steven Groeger
Lawrenceville NJ U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching OSTWALD from Horde and Belecke #general

Steve Groeger <sgroeger@...>
 

I have reason to believe my great grandmother Rosalie OSTWALD Rosenthal
was born in Horde May 10,1860 and her sister Bertha OSTWALD Fleishhacker was
born April 27, 1858 also in Horde. Their father, my great great grandfather,
Menke OSTWALD was born August 10, 1810 in Belecke. I would like to obtain
documentation that will confirm this as well as expanding my ancestry
search.

Steven Groeger
Lawrenceville NJ U.S.A.


French Revolution Digital Archive #france

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Stanford University ( US- California) and the Bibliotheque Nationale
de France (BNF) has launched a new digital archive on the French Revolution
the French Revolution Digital Archive (FRDA). Included are the
day-to-day French parliamentary records >from 1789 to 1794 and a vast
visual collection of 14,000+ prints >from the French national library.
The archive is based around two main resources,the Archives
parlementaires and 14,000 images known as the Images de la Revolution
Francaise. The parliamentary records consist of letters, reports,
speeches and first-hand accounts >from a variety of sources. Many famous
and not-so-famous people are mentioned in the reports. The database can
be searched by keyword, person, timeline and document type. To access
the archives go to:
http://frda.stanford.edu/
Access is free.

Thank you to Genealogy In Time for alerting us to this new website.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


French SIG #France French Revolution Digital Archive #france

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Stanford University ( US- California) and the Bibliotheque Nationale
de France (BNF) has launched a new digital archive on the French Revolution
the French Revolution Digital Archive (FRDA). Included are the
day-to-day French parliamentary records >from 1789 to 1794 and a vast
visual collection of 14,000+ prints >from the French national library.
The archive is based around two main resources,the Archives
parlementaires and 14,000 images known as the Images de la Revolution
Francaise. The parliamentary records consist of letters, reports,
speeches and first-hand accounts >from a variety of sources. Many famous
and not-so-famous people are mentioned in the reports. The database can
be searched by keyword, person, timeline and document type. To access
the archives go to:
http://frda.stanford.edu/
Access is free.

Thank you to Genealogy In Time for alerting us to this new website.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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