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Molaff in Vitebsk and Mollef in Podolia #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Sandy Aaronson wrote:
< A RUBENSTEIN cousin of mine made a tape years ago about his life in
Verbovets, Podolia. He mentioned going on a "buying trip" for his father's
Store at age 12. He said it was a 4-5 day trip in the snow in a horse drawn
wagon and stopped in a town called Mollef on the Dniester River. I found a
town called Miliye not on the Dniester but on another river, Cheremosh. This
town is 102 miles >from Verbovets could it could possibly be the same town as
the one Alan is looking for below? >

Per JewishGen Jewish Communities Database <
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp >
Miliye, Ukraine was formerly in Wiznitz district, Bukovina province,
Austrian Empire and then Milie in Storojinet district, Bucovina, Romania and
is located at 4820/2517, 30 miles W of Chernivtsi on the Cheremosh River.

Based on its location and pronunciation, it is unlikely that Miliye, Ukraine
is the town Mollef to which Sandy's cousin referred.

Verbovets, Ukraine was formerly in Ushitsa district, Podolia province,
Russian Empire and then in Vinnitsa district, Ukraine SSR, Soviet Union and
is located at 4844/2726, 26 miles NW of Mohyliv-Podilskyy.

Mohyliv-Podilskyy, Ukraine was formerly Mogilev in Podolia province, Russian
Empire and then Mogilev-Podolski in Vinnitsa district, Ukraine SSR, Soviet
Union and is located at 4827/2748. Mohyliv-Podilskyy is a major city in S
Ukraine on the Dniester (border with Moldova/Bessarabia) and is not to be
confused with Mogilev (Mahilyow), E Belarus.

Besides its location on the Dniester in Podolia, Mohyliv is pronounced more
similarly to Mollef and is likely the town Sandy's cousin went to on a
buying trip.

Alan Cohen was searching for a town Molaff in Vitebsk, now Vitsyebsk,
Belarus, located at 5512/3012.

Per JewishGen Gazetteer < http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >
The closest (sounds like) possibility for Molaff to Vitebsk is Myailovo
(Myaklovo), Belarus, located at 5503/3016, only 9.1 miles SSE of Vitebsk.
Myailovo is not in the JewishGen Jewish Communities Database because it did
not have a significant Jewish community.

In JewishGen Gazetteer search results, Jewish Communities are preceded by
the JewishGen icon. Click on the icon to see a full page of information for
that community including names in various languages, political jurisdictions
during different time periods, maps, Jewish population and links to
JewishGen resources.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Molaff in Vitebsk and Mollef in Podolia #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Sandy Aaronson wrote:
< A RUBENSTEIN cousin of mine made a tape years ago about his life in
Verbovets, Podolia. He mentioned going on a "buying trip" for his father's
Store at age 12. He said it was a 4-5 day trip in the snow in a horse drawn
wagon and stopped in a town called Mollef on the Dniester River. I found a
town called Miliye not on the Dniester but on another river, Cheremosh. This
town is 102 miles >from Verbovets could it could possibly be the same town as
the one Alan is looking for below? >

Per JewishGen Jewish Communities Database <
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp >
Miliye, Ukraine was formerly in Wiznitz district, Bukovina province,
Austrian Empire and then Milie in Storojinet district, Bucovina, Romania and
is located at 4820/2517, 30 miles W of Chernivtsi on the Cheremosh River.

Based on its location and pronunciation, it is unlikely that Miliye, Ukraine
is the town Mollef to which Sandy's cousin referred.

Verbovets, Ukraine was formerly in Ushitsa district, Podolia province,
Russian Empire and then in Vinnitsa district, Ukraine SSR, Soviet Union and
is located at 4844/2726, 26 miles NW of Mohyliv-Podilskyy.

Mohyliv-Podilskyy, Ukraine was formerly Mogilev in Podolia province, Russian
Empire and then Mogilev-Podolski in Vinnitsa district, Ukraine SSR, Soviet
Union and is located at 4827/2748. Mohyliv-Podilskyy is a major city in S
Ukraine on the Dniester (border with Moldova/Bessarabia) and is not to be
confused with Mogilev (Mahilyow), E Belarus.

Besides its location on the Dniester in Podolia, Mohyliv is pronounced more
similarly to Mollef and is likely the town Sandy's cousin went to on a
buying trip.

Alan Cohen was searching for a town Molaff in Vitebsk, now Vitsyebsk,
Belarus, located at 5512/3012.

Per JewishGen Gazetteer < http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >
The closest (sounds like) possibility for Molaff to Vitebsk is Myailovo
(Myaklovo), Belarus, located at 5503/3016, only 9.1 miles SSE of Vitebsk.
Myailovo is not in the JewishGen Jewish Communities Database because it did
not have a significant Jewish community.

In JewishGen Gazetteer search results, Jewish Communities are preceded by
the JewishGen icon. Click on the icon to see a full page of information for
that community including names in various languages, political jurisdictions
during different time periods, maps, Jewish population and links to
JewishGen resources.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


Re: How to find certificate number? #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

The New York City Dept. of Records lets you request a search for death
records based on date of death and name alone. You wouldn't need the
certificate number. I think it costs about $20. I've ordered records >from
them before. It takes about 6 weeks to get a response but the response
does come.

http://www.nyc.gov/dorforms/death.jsp. Also, Steve Morse has a useful
page for searching NYC death records. Morse's site searches the
italiangen.org website, so if the NYC record you're looking for
exists and is mis-indexed on italiangen, you might not find it on Morse's
site either.

http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeath.html

Dave Strausfeld


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: How to find certificate number? #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

The New York City Dept. of Records lets you request a search for death
records based on date of death and name alone. You wouldn't need the
certificate number. I think it costs about $20. I've ordered records >from
them before. It takes about 6 weeks to get a response but the response
does come.

http://www.nyc.gov/dorforms/death.jsp. Also, Steve Morse has a useful
page for searching NYC death records. Morse's site searches the
italiangen.org website, so if the NYC record you're looking for
exists and is mis-indexed on italiangen, you might not find it on Morse's
site either.

http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeath.html

Dave Strausfeld


Starokonstantinov Duma Voters lists 1906, 1907, 1912 #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

I have just added the last towns to the Starokonstantinov Uezd Duma
voters lists on the Krasilov KehilaLinks web site
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Krasilov/index.html . 1906 and 1907 for
Krasilov, Kuzmin, Volochisk, Teofipol, Starokonstantinov (Town),
Bazaliya, Kulchiny, Kupel, Ozhigovtsy, Rural Uezd; and 1912
Starokonstantinov Uezd are all there now.
A note of caution, some of the lists have not been proofed/checked yet.
The links for those lists are in orange. Also note that for 1906 several
pages at the beginning of the list were missing >from the microfilm. For
1907 there were one or two pages missing >from the end of the list. The
1912 list was complete but of cause there are no town designations in the
1912 list.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Starokonstantinov Duma Voters lists 1906, 1907, 1912 #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

I have just added the last towns to the Starokonstantinov Uezd Duma
voters lists on the Krasilov KehilaLinks web site
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Krasilov/index.html . 1906 and 1907 for
Krasilov, Kuzmin, Volochisk, Teofipol, Starokonstantinov (Town),
Bazaliya, Kulchiny, Kupel, Ozhigovtsy, Rural Uezd; and 1912
Starokonstantinov Uezd are all there now.
A note of caution, some of the lists have not been proofed/checked yet.
The links for those lists are in orange. Also note that for 1906 several
pages at the beginning of the list were missing >from the microfilm. For
1907 there were one or two pages missing >from the end of the list. The
1912 list was complete but of cause there are no town designations in the
1912 list.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Ukraine SIG Update and progress #ukraine

janettes@...
 

Ukraine SIG has a lot going on. I know I'm not listing everything that
has happened since January, but here is the progress of some projects.
Thanks to the amazing work of our volunteers, we have acquired AND
translated Zinkov vital records for 1839, 1849 and 1850 and records >from
the Latvian National archives of people moving >from Courland to Kherson
for 1837 and 1840; translations of vital records from: Priluki
1864-1867, 1889 births >from Nikolaev, a 1913 business directory >from
Mogilev-Podolsky. Many of these are currently being proofread and are in
the pipeline for submission to the JewishGen main office for inclusion
into the JewishGen Ukraine SIG database. We have also acquired about
19,000 images >from Odessa; a Zinkov-Letichev 1875 revision list is being
translated as are records >from Olgopol; microfilms from: Kerch,
Nikolaev, Priluki, Olshana. We have also added 8 new Town Leaders. Our
Ukraine SIG discussion group is also growing.

Last, but not least, our Ukraine SIG Speaker for the IAJGS conference
will be Dr. Eric Goldman - he'll be speaking at a session as well as at
a "Lunch With the Experts."

Janette


Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@...
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG Update and progress #ukraine

janettes@...
 

Ukraine SIG has a lot going on. I know I'm not listing everything that
has happened since January, but here is the progress of some projects.
Thanks to the amazing work of our volunteers, we have acquired AND
translated Zinkov vital records for 1839, 1849 and 1850 and records >from
the Latvian National archives of people moving >from Courland to Kherson
for 1837 and 1840; translations of vital records from: Priluki
1864-1867, 1889 births >from Nikolaev, a 1913 business directory >from
Mogilev-Podolsky. Many of these are currently being proofread and are in
the pipeline for submission to the JewishGen main office for inclusion
into the JewishGen Ukraine SIG database. We have also acquired about
19,000 images >from Odessa; a Zinkov-Letichev 1875 revision list is being
translated as are records >from Olgopol; microfilms from: Kerch,
Nikolaev, Priluki, Olshana. We have also added 8 new Town Leaders. Our
Ukraine SIG discussion group is also growing.

Last, but not least, our Ukraine SIG Speaker for the IAJGS conference
will be Dr. Eric Goldman - he'll be speaking at a session as well as at
a "Lunch With the Experts."

Janette


Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@...
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505


Re: Help finding ship manifest and birth/marriage records #general

news <news@...>
 

Scott Ehrlich wrote:

Israel's US citizenship form reports he, Rose, and David arrived in
the US via Bremen, Germany on November 1900 on the Patricia. No
good hits on Ellisisland.org nor ancestry.com Familysearch.org has
been of limited help.

Where else can I search next for ship manifests and recorded history
of when/where David was born and Israel and Rose married? At least as
a start.

I would try a broader search. A search of the Morton Allen Directory
(http://www.cimorelli.com/cgi-bin/safescripts/like_ma_new.asp?FMONTH=01&FDAY=01&FYEAR=1900&beginwith=Patricia)


indicates that the Patricia didn't arrive in the U.S. in November of
1900: only October and December. Therefore, either the date is wrong or
the ship name is wrong.

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STECKER: New York > Florida
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

(MOD: http://tinyurl.com/omrvfen)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help finding ship manifest and birth/marriage records #general

news <news@...>
 

Scott Ehrlich wrote:

Israel's US citizenship form reports he, Rose, and David arrived in
the US via Bremen, Germany on November 1900 on the Patricia. No
good hits on Ellisisland.org nor ancestry.com Familysearch.org has
been of limited help.

Where else can I search next for ship manifests and recorded history
of when/where David was born and Israel and Rose married? At least as
a start.

I would try a broader search. A search of the Morton Allen Directory
(http://www.cimorelli.com/cgi-bin/safescripts/like_ma_new.asp?FMONTH=01&FDAY=01&FYEAR=1900&beginwith=Patricia)


indicates that the Patricia didn't arrive in the U.S. in November of
1900: only October and December. Therefore, either the date is wrong or
the ship name is wrong.

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STECKER: New York > Florida
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

(MOD: http://tinyurl.com/omrvfen)


Cincinnati explanation please #general

Trudy Barch
 

United Jewish Cemetery - Is it Walnut Hills the name of the city or the
name of a section in the cemetery?

Thank you, Trudy Barch


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cincinnati explanation please #general

Trudy Barch
 

United Jewish Cemetery - Is it Walnut Hills the name of the city or the
name of a section in the cemetery?

Thank you, Trudy Barch


Re: Tauberbischofsheim records - GRUNHUT #germany

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

Hank,

The Taberbischofsheim records are held at the Baden-Wuerttemberg state
archives and these can be accessed online. There have been many mentions
of these online BW records in this forum many times.

For instance the family page for Hirsch GRUNHUT is here

http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=3D1-446800-99

There are family pages of three Grunhut families in that book, as shown
in the index near the end of the film. Good luck,

Brian Stern, Lexington, KY brians99@...

Moderator Reminder: The searchable SIG Email list archives contain all
messages sent to our Forum and others. The separate JewishGen
Discussion Group JGDG archives >from 1993 are also searchable.
*** Log in to JewishGen with user name and password first. Then:
SIG archives: http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
JGDG search: http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Ontario, Canada <hank.lobben@...> wrote:
-------- Very recently, I discovered that my mother
Betty LOBBENBERG nee GRUNHUT (daughter of Salli GRUNHUT and Rosa
MARX) had a cousin, Ilse BROCH nee GRUNHUT b. 20 July 1914 in
Tauberbischofsheim. ----- I have contacted various offices in
Tauberbischofsheim and area without any success. If anyone out
there has any knowledge of these families or can
point me to a publication, I would appreciate it very much.


German SIG #Germany Re: Tauberbischofsheim records - GRUNHUT #germany

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

Hank,

The Taberbischofsheim records are held at the Baden-Wuerttemberg state
archives and these can be accessed online. There have been many mentions
of these online BW records in this forum many times.

For instance the family page for Hirsch GRUNHUT is here

http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=3D1-446800-99

There are family pages of three Grunhut families in that book, as shown
in the index near the end of the film. Good luck,

Brian Stern, Lexington, KY brians99@...

Moderator Reminder: The searchable SIG Email list archives contain all
messages sent to our Forum and others. The separate JewishGen
Discussion Group JGDG archives >from 1993 are also searchable.
*** Log in to JewishGen with user name and password first. Then:
SIG archives: http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
JGDG search: http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Ontario, Canada <hank.lobben@...> wrote:
-------- Very recently, I discovered that my mother
Betty LOBBENBERG nee GRUNHUT (daughter of Salli GRUNHUT and Rosa
MARX) had a cousin, Ilse BROCH nee GRUNHUT b. 20 July 1914 in
Tauberbischofsheim. ----- I have contacted various offices in
Tauberbischofsheim and area without any success. If anyone out
there has any knowledge of these families or can
point me to a publication, I would appreciate it very much.


: [US] [NY] Burial Site for One Million In Mass Graves Restricted Access In New York City #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

As a follow-up to the recent message >from Jan Meisels Allen, I urge
people interested in the potter's field on Hart Island in New York City
to also go to the New York Times' web site and type Hart Island into the
search box for more articles about it. (If you don't have a subscription
to the Times, you're limited to 10 articles per month, but that's
more than enough.)

Although the Hart Island Project is a good cause, lookups of burials
on Hart Island can also be done without registration or payment on a
City of New York web site at
http://a073-hartisland-web.nyc.gov/hartisland/pages/search/search.jsf.

Records are very incomplete because only those >from 1980 to 2011 have
been converted to a searchable on line format, some records were damaged
in a fire, and others have been lost. Other information is available
at http://www.nyc.gov/html/doc/html/hart_island/hart_island.shtml

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen : [US] [NY] Burial Site for One Million In Mass Graves Restricted Access In New York City #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

As a follow-up to the recent message >from Jan Meisels Allen, I urge
people interested in the potter's field on Hart Island in New York City
to also go to the New York Times' web site and type Hart Island into the
search box for more articles about it. (If you don't have a subscription
to the Times, you're limited to 10 articles per month, but that's
more than enough.)

Although the Hart Island Project is a good cause, lookups of burials
on Hart Island can also be done without registration or payment on a
City of New York web site at
http://a073-hartisland-web.nyc.gov/hartisland/pages/search/search.jsf.

Records are very incomplete because only those >from 1980 to 2011 have
been converted to a searchable on line format, some records were damaged
in a fire, and others have been lost. Other information is available
at http://www.nyc.gov/html/doc/html/hart_island/hart_island.shtml

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: Document questions - Postausweiskarte #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Am 13.04.2014 21:58, schrieb Henry Graupner:
I hope some of your readers will be able to provide me with information
about the following personal documents and memberships of a student/young
man (my uncle) in Germany in the twenties and thirties:
Postausweiskarte - what was it used for?
Was used until about ten or fifteen years ago so that another person
would be able to accept a letter addressed to the person mentioned on
the card, it was issued by the postal administration.

Hope that helps, Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Document questions - Postausweiskarte #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Am 13.04.2014 21:58, schrieb Henry Graupner:
I hope some of your readers will be able to provide me with information
about the following personal documents and memberships of a student/young
man (my uncle) in Germany in the twenties and thirties:
Postausweiskarte - what was it used for?
Was used until about ten or fifteen years ago so that another person
would be able to accept a letter addressed to the person mentioned on
the card, it was issued by the postal administration.

Hope that helps, Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@...


ViewMate Translation Request -- Polish #general

ava rosenblum
 

Hello:

I've posted an email >from Lodz that is a reply to my inquiry about
obtaining my grandfather's birth records, which I found in the JRI
data base.

I would be very grateful for a translation of what they are
requesting >from me re. amount of money to send, where to mail it,
address, and anything else I need to send them.

Below is the Viewmate link:


http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33209


Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

With much gratitude,

Ava Rosenblum

Researching Rosenblum and Garner.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request -- Polish #general

ava rosenblum
 

Hello:

I've posted an email >from Lodz that is a reply to my inquiry about
obtaining my grandfather's birth records, which I found in the JRI
data base.

I would be very grateful for a translation of what they are
requesting >from me re. amount of money to send, where to mail it,
address, and anything else I need to send them.

Below is the Viewmate link:


http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33209


Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

With much gratitude,

Ava Rosenblum

Researching Rosenblum and Garner.

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