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Passport application - Defining duration of identifier knowing applicant #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

Hi,

Edward Sussholz, a nephew of my g3-grandfather Leopold (Lipot) Sussholz
of Hanusfalu, Hungarian Empire, emigrated to the USA in 1912 and after
being naturalized applied for a passport in 1921.

During the naturalization process he first changed his surname to Seesholtz
and then to Seasholes. The person providing identification for his passport
application was Henry Seesholtz, who stated that he knew Edward Seasholes
for nine years, i.e. the full duration Edward was in the USA.

I am trying to determine how Henry Seesholtz was related to Edward - i.e. to
see if he is a (re-named) brother, cousin or just someone he met in the same
business (wool, as was Edward's father and my g3-grandfather per the 1891 Hungarian
trade directory) with a similar name - and so the question I have is that if some
of the time the two knew each other was outside the USA, would that still count, or
does the question about duration of knowing someone only refer to the time both
knew each other inside the USA?

Here is the application document in my Dropbox: http://bit.ly/1l0mRCt
original url:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ail51kdi5vwj4g/Naturalization%20-%20Edward%20Sussholz%201921%20small.jpeg
(MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/p8fctpw)
--
Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passport application - Defining duration of identifier knowing applicant #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

Hi,

Edward Sussholz, a nephew of my g3-grandfather Leopold (Lipot) Sussholz
of Hanusfalu, Hungarian Empire, emigrated to the USA in 1912 and after
being naturalized applied for a passport in 1921.

During the naturalization process he first changed his surname to Seesholtz
and then to Seasholes. The person providing identification for his passport
application was Henry Seesholtz, who stated that he knew Edward Seasholes
for nine years, i.e. the full duration Edward was in the USA.

I am trying to determine how Henry Seesholtz was related to Edward - i.e. to
see if he is a (re-named) brother, cousin or just someone he met in the same
business (wool, as was Edward's father and my g3-grandfather per the 1891 Hungarian
trade directory) with a similar name - and so the question I have is that if some
of the time the two knew each other was outside the USA, would that still count, or
does the question about duration of knowing someone only refer to the time both
knew each other inside the USA?

Here is the application document in my Dropbox: http://bit.ly/1l0mRCt
original url:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ail51kdi5vwj4g/Naturalization%20-%20Edward%20Sussholz%201921%20small.jpeg
(MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/p8fctpw)
--
Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles


Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@...>
 

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:
My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.
Good sources for this type of information are the New York Times archives (they
published ship arrival lists in the daily paper) as well as the Morton-Allan
directory.

The Morton Allan directory can be searched online through the Cimorelli
website (http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm).

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York;
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles;
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles;
SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York;
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida;
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@...>
 

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:
My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.
Good sources for this type of information are the New York Times archives (they
published ship arrival lists in the daily paper) as well as the Morton-Allan
directory.

The Morton Allan directory can be searched online through the Cimorelli
website (http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm).

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York;
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles;
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles;
SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York;
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida;
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles


Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

Susan&David
 

There are other pages on the same manifest where the arrival date of July 18 is
given

David Rosen
Boston, MA

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:

My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

Susan&David
 

There are other pages on the same manifest where the arrival date of July 18 is
given

David Rosen
Boston, MA

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:

My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.


Translation of Russian birth document #general

Mady Land <madyland@...>
 

Hello Genners,
I've posted an 1870 birth document for Moszek FOGEL >from Krasnytow, Poland
on Viewmate, and would appreciate a full translation with all possible
details.. names of parents, ages, occupations, witnesses, dates, towns,
locations. Is it a late registration?

The link/address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34464

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you for your help.

MadyLand
New York, NY

Researching:
KELMAN/KIELMAN/Nowe Miasto nad Pilica, New York;
LANDSZNEJDER/LANDSCHNEIDER/KLAMRA/ZAROSLA/Plock, Bodzanow, Gabin, Zychlin,New York;
ZYLBER/KARAS/DOBRZYNSKA/Dobrzyn nad Wisla; GEJDYGIER/EIDEGER/Nowe Miasto nad
Pilica, Lodz, Aleksandrow Lodski, New York, Winnipeg, Calgary;
BOROWSKI/KIELER/Aleksandrow Lodzki; FOGEL/FOGIEL/FOJGEL/HERYING/HAJDENBLIT/
Hrubieszow, Ratno, Lublin, Poland; New York;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of Russian birth document #general

Mady Land <madyland@...>
 

Hello Genners,
I've posted an 1870 birth document for Moszek FOGEL >from Krasnytow, Poland
on Viewmate, and would appreciate a full translation with all possible
details.. names of parents, ages, occupations, witnesses, dates, towns,
locations. Is it a late registration?

The link/address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34464

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you for your help.

MadyLand
New York, NY

Researching:
KELMAN/KIELMAN/Nowe Miasto nad Pilica, New York;
LANDSZNEJDER/LANDSCHNEIDER/KLAMRA/ZAROSLA/Plock, Bodzanow, Gabin, Zychlin,New York;
ZYLBER/KARAS/DOBRZYNSKA/Dobrzyn nad Wisla; GEJDYGIER/EIDEGER/Nowe Miasto nad
Pilica, Lodz, Aleksandrow Lodski, New York, Winnipeg, Calgary;
BOROWSKI/KIELER/Aleksandrow Lodzki; FOGEL/FOGIEL/FOJGEL/HERYING/HAJDENBLIT/
Hrubieszow, Ratno, Lublin, Poland; New York;


Announcing the Obermayer German Jewish History Awards for 2015 #general

Arthur Obermayer <obermayer@...>
 

The German Jewish Community History Council, which is sponsored by the
Berlin Parliament, the Obermayer Foundation, the Leo Baeck Institute and
the German SIG, is pleased to announce its Call for Nominations for the
annual Obermayer German Jewish History Awards to be given to non-Jewish
Germans who have made extraordinary contributions to preserving
vestiges of former Jewish life in their local communities, including
historical records, cultural material, cemeteries and synagogues.

The CALL FOR NOMINATIONS can be obtained at:

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm

and the deadline for submission is September 22, 2014.

Thousands of Germans have carried out such activities as volunteers
because they feel it is the right thing to do. The preservation of
Jewish material is one of the few ways in which they can respond
constructively to their country's horrible past.

This award provides Jews throughout the world with the opportunity to
recognize and honor German individuals who, in many cases, have devoted
their lifetimes to such important endeavors. As Jewish genealogists, we
have been the recipients of their good work.

Many of you previously submitted successful nominations. Those nominees
who have already received Certificates of Commendation are prime
candidates for this year's awards. They will only require updating of
the prior submissions.

This will be the 15th year for such awards, which will be given on
January 26, 2015 in Berlin. Each awardee and his/her spouse will be
invited on an all expenses paid trip to Berlin to receive the award at
the elegant Plenary Chamber of the Abgeordnetenhaus, the home of the
Berlin Parliament. Successful nominators are also invited to attend all
of the award ceremony events in Berlin, where they will meet with the
award recipients they have chosen to honor.

The honorees will receive a framed certificate and an honorarium to be
used for the furtherance of their work. Awardees' contributions will be
described to attendees and to the local, national and international news
media. These awards have in the past received extensive worldwide media
coverage (http://www.obermayer.us/award/news.htm).

If you know someone who may be appropriate for nomination, further
information -- including the Call for Nominations and profiles of
previous award winners and the jury -- can be obtained at:

http://www.obermayer.us/award

You may obtain a hard copy of the Call for Nominations by sending an email request
to: germanaward@gmail.com or a letter to the:
German Jewish Community History Council
239 Chestnut Street
West Newton, MA 02465 USA

Remember that the deadline for submission of nominations is September 22, 2014.

Arthur Obermayer
West Newton, MA
obermayer@alum.mit.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Announcing the Obermayer German Jewish History Awards for 2015 #general

Arthur Obermayer <obermayer@...>
 

The German Jewish Community History Council, which is sponsored by the
Berlin Parliament, the Obermayer Foundation, the Leo Baeck Institute and
the German SIG, is pleased to announce its Call for Nominations for the
annual Obermayer German Jewish History Awards to be given to non-Jewish
Germans who have made extraordinary contributions to preserving
vestiges of former Jewish life in their local communities, including
historical records, cultural material, cemeteries and synagogues.

The CALL FOR NOMINATIONS can be obtained at:

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm

and the deadline for submission is September 22, 2014.

Thousands of Germans have carried out such activities as volunteers
because they feel it is the right thing to do. The preservation of
Jewish material is one of the few ways in which they can respond
constructively to their country's horrible past.

This award provides Jews throughout the world with the opportunity to
recognize and honor German individuals who, in many cases, have devoted
their lifetimes to such important endeavors. As Jewish genealogists, we
have been the recipients of their good work.

Many of you previously submitted successful nominations. Those nominees
who have already received Certificates of Commendation are prime
candidates for this year's awards. They will only require updating of
the prior submissions.

This will be the 15th year for such awards, which will be given on
January 26, 2015 in Berlin. Each awardee and his/her spouse will be
invited on an all expenses paid trip to Berlin to receive the award at
the elegant Plenary Chamber of the Abgeordnetenhaus, the home of the
Berlin Parliament. Successful nominators are also invited to attend all
of the award ceremony events in Berlin, where they will meet with the
award recipients they have chosen to honor.

The honorees will receive a framed certificate and an honorarium to be
used for the furtherance of their work. Awardees' contributions will be
described to attendees and to the local, national and international news
media. These awards have in the past received extensive worldwide media
coverage (http://www.obermayer.us/award/news.htm).

If you know someone who may be appropriate for nomination, further
information -- including the Call for Nominations and profiles of
previous award winners and the jury -- can be obtained at:

http://www.obermayer.us/award

You may obtain a hard copy of the Call for Nominations by sending an email request
to: germanaward@gmail.com or a letter to the:
German Jewish Community History Council
239 Chestnut Street
West Newton, MA 02465 USA

Remember that the deadline for submission of nominations is September 22, 2014.

Arthur Obermayer
West Newton, MA
obermayer@alum.mit.edu


Translation #general

patrick huguet <patrick.huguet4@...>
 

've posted a vital record in Yiddish or Lithaunian?for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34444
and VM3445,46,47,48
MODERATOR: DIRECT URLs
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34445
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34446
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34447
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34448
Thank you for your help
patrick huguet
patrick.huguet4@orange.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation #general

patrick huguet <patrick.huguet4@...>
 

've posted a vital record in Yiddish or Lithaunian?for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34444
and VM3445,46,47,48
MODERATOR: DIRECT URLs
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34445
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34446
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34447
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34448
Thank you for your help
patrick huguet
patrick.huguet4@orange.fr


Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:
My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.The ship manifest only
gives the departure date. How long on the average was the journey.Is it possible
to find out the exact date of arrival?
17 Jul 1904

See here:

<http://www.gjenvick.com/Immigration/ImmigrantTickets/1904-07-06-PassengerContract-BreitmannFamily.html#axzz35Ljo1wU5>
MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/ppv8rka

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Summer arrival in NYC in 1904 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

neilrosenstein@gmail.com wrote:
My great-grandfather arrived in the USA in summer of 1904.The ship manifest only
gives the departure date. How long on the average was the journey.Is it possible
to find out the exact date of arrival?
17 Jul 1904

See here:

<http://www.gjenvick.com/Immigration/ImmigrantTickets/1904-07-06-PassengerContract-BreitmannFamily.html#axzz35Ljo1wU5>
MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/ppv8rka

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


ViewMate translation please - Polish birth record Chana MORGENSTERN #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I've posted a birth record in Polish for Chana Dyna MORGENSTERN >from 1861
for which I need a loose translation.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34421

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.
(Beitar, Israel)

Researching:
BORENSZTEJN: Wolbrom/Dzialoszicz/Andrejov, Poland
ROSEN, RODBLAT: Belarus
FELLER: Romania


ViewMate translation please - Polish marriage record Dawid PERELMAN #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I've posted a marriage record in Polish for Dawid PERELMAN >from 1861 for
which I need a loose translation.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34420

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.
(Beitar, Israel)

Researching:
BORENSZTEJN: Wolbrom/Dzialoszicz/Andrejov, Poland
ROSEN, RODBLAT: Belarus
FELLER: Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation please - Polish birth record Chana MORGENSTERN #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I've posted a birth record in Polish for Chana Dyna MORGENSTERN >from 1861
for which I need a loose translation.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34421

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.
(Beitar, Israel)

Researching:
BORENSZTEJN: Wolbrom/Dzialoszicz/Andrejov, Poland
ROSEN, RODBLAT: Belarus
FELLER: Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation please - Polish marriage record Dawid PERELMAN #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I've posted a marriage record in Polish for Dawid PERELMAN >from 1861 for
which I need a loose translation.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34420

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.
(Beitar, Israel)

Researching:
BORENSZTEJN: Wolbrom/Dzialoszicz/Andrejov, Poland
ROSEN, RODBLAT: Belarus
FELLER: Romania


A name puzzle: could Gershon and Girsha be the same person? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

I have a birth record for a girl born in Homel in 1882, father's name (per the
transcription) "Gershon" >from the Belitsa Community of Homel uyezd, and maternal
grandfather's name "Hirsh"; and also, separately, I have two marriage records in
Homel (1895 and 1902) for girls with father's name "Girsha", >from Belitsa.

These three events took place between 1882 and 1905. I am thinking the three girls
are sisters (the birth dates make this plausible), but I'm troubled by the
variation in the male names, especially by seeing both Gershon and Hirsh in the
same document. I know that Gershon is a Hebrew name and Girsh(a)/Hirsh(a) a
Yiddish name, yet they sound so close. Also, we are dealing with transcriptions,
probably by two different people; I hope to eventually see the original documents,
but that may not be for awhile.

Could Gershon and Girsha be the same person? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA
researching SHEKHTER and TELISHEVSKY in Homel/Belitsa and Cherikov
(Belarus) and Ekaterinoslav (now Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A name puzzle: could Gershon and Girsha be the same person? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

I have a birth record for a girl born in Homel in 1882, father's name (per the
transcription) "Gershon" >from the Belitsa Community of Homel uyezd, and maternal
grandfather's name "Hirsh"; and also, separately, I have two marriage records in
Homel (1895 and 1902) for girls with father's name "Girsha", >from Belitsa.

These three events took place between 1882 and 1905. I am thinking the three girls
are sisters (the birth dates make this plausible), but I'm troubled by the
variation in the male names, especially by seeing both Gershon and Hirsh in the
same document. I know that Gershon is a Hebrew name and Girsh(a)/Hirsh(a) a
Yiddish name, yet they sound so close. Also, we are dealing with transcriptions,
probably by two different people; I hope to eventually see the original documents,
but that may not be for awhile.

Could Gershon and Girsha be the same person? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA
researching SHEKHTER and TELISHEVSKY in Homel/Belitsa and Cherikov
(Belarus) and Ekaterinoslav (now Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine)

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