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logistics of matching with a specific person #dna

Helen Gardner
 

Hello there.

I am in email contact with a person who may be related to me.
Neither of us has our data on your system. He knows nothing
beyond his father, and I know nothing beyond my grandmother,
but his family came >from Warsaw, as did mine, and his surname,
Mlynarz, is almost identical to that of my grandmother, Mlynasz.
Since it is not a common name, there does seem to be a
possibility of a relationship.

It seems we would need to use MtDNA and we may need to use the
full sequencing because we cross gender lines.

In practical terms, how would we use DNA sequencing to test
whether we are related? We both live in Australia, about 150
miles apart. We are meeting on July 8, but I suspect that's too
soon to get anything going, as I haven't even asked him yet
whether he would be interested in doing the matching. Would we
need to submit our samples together? If the samples need to be
sent to the US, is there a problem with how long they may take
to arrive (4 days to a week using airmail, and if we need to send
them together, add a few days for post >from one of us to the other
for sending on together)? I assume we get a report giving us the
likelihood of us being related.

Could you please advise me on the best sequencing plan, and the
logistics of managing the process.

regards
Helen Gardner
DNA Research #DNA logistics of matching with a specific person #dna

Helen Gardner
 

Hello there.

I am in email contact with a person who may be related to me.
Neither of us has our data on your system. He knows nothing
beyond his father, and I know nothing beyond my grandmother,
but his family came >from Warsaw, as did mine, and his surname,
Mlynarz, is almost identical to that of my grandmother, Mlynasz.
Since it is not a common name, there does seem to be a
possibility of a relationship.

It seems we would need to use MtDNA and we may need to use the
full sequencing because we cross gender lines.

In practical terms, how would we use DNA sequencing to test
whether we are related? We both live in Australia, about 150
miles apart. We are meeting on July 8, but I suspect that's too
soon to get anything going, as I haven't even asked him yet
whether he would be interested in doing the matching. Would we
need to submit our samples together? If the samples need to be
sent to the US, is there a problem with how long they may take
to arrive (4 days to a week using airmail, and if we need to send
them together, add a few days for post >from one of us to the other
for sending on together)? I assume we get a report giving us the
likelihood of us being related.

Could you please advise me on the best sequencing plan, and the
logistics of managing the process.

regards
Helen Gardner
Korban Nesanel #rabbinic

Bernard Weill
 

Dear colleagues,

Can someone advise me how to find out if the Korban Nesanel (Rabbi Nesanel
Weill) of Karlshrue was a Levi?

Thank you,
Bezalel Weill
Brooklyn, NY
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Korban Nesanel #rabbinic

Bernard Weill
 

Dear colleagues,

Can someone advise me how to find out if the Korban Nesanel (Rabbi Nesanel
Weill) of Karlshrue was a Levi?

Thank you,
Bezalel Weill
Brooklyn, NY
GENIESLAW family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of . Mordechai Yeshaya
GENIESLAW of Brooklyn, NY., born February 5th, 1929, married Sarah,
born in Nowy Sacz, daughter of Chaim Alter and Esther Gross. Issue,
Rivke Chaya, born September 8th, 1962, Chaim Alter, born August 15th,
196?, Machi, born December 19th, 1968 and Leah, born August 27th,
1970.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic GENIESLAW family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of . Mordechai Yeshaya
GENIESLAW of Brooklyn, NY., born February 5th, 1929, married Sarah,
born in Nowy Sacz, daughter of Chaim Alter and Esther Gross. Issue,
Rivke Chaya, born September 8th, 1962, Chaim Alter, born August 15th,
196?, Machi, born December 19th, 1968 and Leah, born August 27th,
1970.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbi Baruch KORFF #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the children of
R. Baruch KORFF, born in 1914, Admur Zvil of Boston and later retired
to live in Providence, RI, where he died on July 26, 1995.
He became known as President Nixon's Rabbi. Was married twice - to whom?
He was married twice and his children were
Joy Weber of NYC
Marilyn Marsden of NYC
Zamira of Boston
--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Baruch KORFF #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the children of
R. Baruch KORFF, born in 1914, Admur Zvil of Boston and later retired
to live in Providence, RI, where he died on July 26, 1995.
He became known as President Nixon's Rabbi. Was married twice - to whom?
He was married twice and his children were
Joy Weber of NYC
Marilyn Marsden of NYC
Zamira of Boston
--
Neil Rosenstein

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The ReMA's daughters #rabbinic

Cyril Fox <c-fox4@...>
 

I would like to know whether the sister of Dreizel ISSERLES, namely Malka
Isserles, was without issue?
Did she die childless?
Her marriage was to Eliezer GUNZBURG.
Does anyone know?

Bella Fox
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic The ReMA's daughters #rabbinic

Cyril Fox <c-fox4@...>
 

I would like to know whether the sister of Dreizel ISSERLES, namely Malka
Isserles, was without issue?
Did she die childless?
Her marriage was to Eliezer GUNZBURG.
Does anyone know?

Bella Fox
FRIEDENSOHN in Paris #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to contact or get information on

Asher FRIEDENSOHN, who married his first cousin, Ela Ernestina and
settled in Paris.
Their three children -
1. Olga, born 1902, lived in Paris.
2. Ruth, born 1911 in Rumania, lived in Paris.
3. Alexander Friedensohn, born 1907, married Dora, lived in Paris.
(parents of Patrick Friedensohn, born 1944 in Paris and George
Friedensohn, born 1945 in Paris.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic FRIEDENSOHN in Paris #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to contact or get information on

Asher FRIEDENSOHN, who married his first cousin, Ela Ernestina and
settled in Paris.
Their three children -
1. Olga, born 1902, lived in Paris.
2. Ruth, born 1911 in Rumania, lived in Paris.
3. Alexander Friedensohn, born 1907, married Dora, lived in Paris.
(parents of Patrick Friedensohn, born 1944 in Paris and George
Friedensohn, born 1945 in Paris.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rav GORDON of Yeshivat Lomza in Petach Tikva. #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to contact anyone who knows of this rabbi and his family.
A son-in-law was Yehoshua Eizik KOSTIKOWSKY.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rav GORDON of Yeshivat Lomza in Petach Tikva. #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to contact anyone who knows of this rabbi and his family.
A son-in-law was Yehoshua Eizik KOSTIKOWSKY.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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One name: one person or two? #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a puzzler for you. Would it be reasonable for there to be
two Jewish women of the same name in a certain shtetl in the late
nineteenth century?

The shtetl in question is Frampol, which had a Jewish population in
1900 of somewhere around 1,000, according to Jewishgen.

So here are my two records:

1) I have a translated birth record for a Sluwa Krikszer born in
Frampol in 1878. In this record, the father's name is Majer.

2) I also have a 1910 passenger manifest for a Sluwa Brenner (nee
Krikszer) >from Frampol that lists her father's name as Moshe.

I have many more records for her and I'm sure her maiden name was
Krikszer.

Both women would have been about the same age, which makes me wonder
whether I truly have two different people. Clearly, one of the records
could be in error about the father's name, most likely the passenger
manifest.

What I'm wondering is, how likely would it be for there to be two
roughly-the-same-age Jewish women of the same name in this shtetl?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Dave Strausfeld

P.S. Complicating things a bit, I also have an 1889 Frampol birth
record for a Krikszer son that says the father's name was Moshe.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen One name: one person or two? #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a puzzler for you. Would it be reasonable for there to be
two Jewish women of the same name in a certain shtetl in the late
nineteenth century?

The shtetl in question is Frampol, which had a Jewish population in
1900 of somewhere around 1,000, according to Jewishgen.

So here are my two records:

1) I have a translated birth record for a Sluwa Krikszer born in
Frampol in 1878. In this record, the father's name is Majer.

2) I also have a 1910 passenger manifest for a Sluwa Brenner (nee
Krikszer) >from Frampol that lists her father's name as Moshe.

I have many more records for her and I'm sure her maiden name was
Krikszer.

Both women would have been about the same age, which makes me wonder
whether I truly have two different people. Clearly, one of the records
could be in error about the father's name, most likely the passenger
manifest.

What I'm wondering is, how likely would it be for there to be two
roughly-the-same-age Jewish women of the same name in this shtetl?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Dave Strausfeld

P.S. Complicating things a bit, I also have an 1889 Frampol birth
record for a Krikszer son that says the father's name was Moshe.
Re : SCHWARTZ Suwalki #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybr26@...>
 

" SCHWARTZ is not a Polish name, most probably the translation of the original
name which is CZARNY in polish. And that name was present in Suwalki records."

Schwartz is indeed not Polish (and Czarny is), but it is German and (I am guessing)
Yiddish. My gg grandmother, >from Augustow, now Poland, then Suwalki gubernia (on
the Prussian border), was SN Schwartz in some of the few records that exist in the
area, and a distant cousin I found knows the name >from her family's stories.

Any 'German' name that you think doesn't belong in a Russian area is probably
Yiddish.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re : SCHWARTZ Suwalki #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybr26@...>
 

" SCHWARTZ is not a Polish name, most probably the translation of the original
name which is CZARNY in polish. And that name was present in Suwalki records."

Schwartz is indeed not Polish (and Czarny is), but it is German and (I am guessing)
Yiddish. My gg grandmother, >from Augustow, now Poland, then Suwalki gubernia (on
the Prussian border), was SN Schwartz in some of the few records that exist in the
area, and a distant cousin I found knows the name >from her family's stories.

Any 'German' name that you think doesn't belong in a Russian area is probably
Yiddish.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
ViewMate - Translation requested of one word (German or Polish) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a partial translation of the record below

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=33744

(#24 relating to Berl Holon) but I was wondering if anyone might be
able to translate one word whose meaning I do not yet know.

The word appears to be "Curulik" and, >from where it is on the record,
it's probably an occupation. The rest of the record is in German.
Google Translate tells me that "Cyrulik" means "The Barber" in Polish
-- but the rest of this record is in German.

Thanks very much.

Dave Strausfeld

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - Translation requested of one word (German or Polish) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a partial translation of the record below

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=33744

(#24 relating to Berl Holon) but I was wondering if anyone might be
able to translate one word whose meaning I do not yet know.

The word appears to be "Curulik" and, >from where it is on the record,
it's probably an occupation. The rest of the record is in German.
Google Translate tells me that "Cyrulik" means "The Barber" in Polish
-- but the rest of this record is in German.

Thanks very much.

Dave Strausfeld

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