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Monday at Conference and Tuesday Preview #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Monday at conference didn't have any specific GerSIG content, but that
didn't deter GerSIG members >from getting together in the margins of
conference to compare family trees and discuss potential shared connections.

During Monday evening, a group of us gathered in a comfy seating
areas to network in just this way, with discussions ranging >from the
location of archives for different parts of Germany, through to
community histories that we have listed on the GerSIG website and
Stolpersteine (where we discussed both viewpoints of these, because
people tend to polarize either in favor of them, or against them).

This opportunity also allowed the GerSIG Directors to finalise the
planning necessary for Thursday, which is the day where most of the
GerSIG events at conference will take place.

Today, Tuesday, GerSIG member, Ekkehard Huebschmann will be giving a
talk of German-Jewish genealogy interest, called ">from Germany to
North America in the 19th Century - The Bavarian Example". The
Conference Schedule gives the following summary of the talk:

Using the example of the Kingdom of Bavaria, this lecture sheds light
on the various aspects of Jewish emigration >from Germany. Why did so
many Jews emigrate in the 19th century to the USA? How did they travel
to the harbors? All travelers and emigrants had to apply for the
permition to leave the country. The documents, which they had to
present to local officials, provide a lot of genealogical data: birth
certificates >from local rabbis, certificates for school education or
for not being exempt for military service; and above all passage
contracts by officially accredited agents. Jewish businessmen were
among the first agents. A wide range of records in German city or
state archives tells a most interesting story of Jewish emigration.

Highlights for the program this evening will be taken up with the
JewishGen 2014 update, this session usually also includes some
discussion of future JewishGEn developments, so I will report back
tomorrow on what we hear.

Jeanette Rosenberg presently in SLC Utah but usually London UK GerSIG
Director for Conference Arrangements Jeanette.R.Rosenberg@googlemail.com
German SIG #Germany Monday at Conference and Tuesday Preview #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Monday at conference didn't have any specific GerSIG content, but that
didn't deter GerSIG members >from getting together in the margins of
conference to compare family trees and discuss potential shared connections.

During Monday evening, a group of us gathered in a comfy seating
areas to network in just this way, with discussions ranging >from the
location of archives for different parts of Germany, through to
community histories that we have listed on the GerSIG website and
Stolpersteine (where we discussed both viewpoints of these, because
people tend to polarize either in favor of them, or against them).

This opportunity also allowed the GerSIG Directors to finalise the
planning necessary for Thursday, which is the day where most of the
GerSIG events at conference will take place.

Today, Tuesday, GerSIG member, Ekkehard Huebschmann will be giving a
talk of German-Jewish genealogy interest, called ">from Germany to
North America in the 19th Century - The Bavarian Example". The
Conference Schedule gives the following summary of the talk:

Using the example of the Kingdom of Bavaria, this lecture sheds light
on the various aspects of Jewish emigration >from Germany. Why did so
many Jews emigrate in the 19th century to the USA? How did they travel
to the harbors? All travelers and emigrants had to apply for the
permition to leave the country. The documents, which they had to
present to local officials, provide a lot of genealogical data: birth
certificates >from local rabbis, certificates for school education or
for not being exempt for military service; and above all passage
contracts by officially accredited agents. Jewish businessmen were
among the first agents. A wide range of records in German city or
state archives tells a most interesting story of Jewish emigration.

Highlights for the program this evening will be taken up with the
JewishGen 2014 update, this session usually also includes some
discussion of future JewishGEn developments, so I will report back
tomorrow on what we hear.

Jeanette Rosenberg presently in SLC Utah but usually London UK GerSIG
Director for Conference Arrangements Jeanette.R.Rosenberg@googlemail.com
Re: Steamship tickets from Europe to America #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Train tracks covered eastern europe by 1900, and the steamship
companies often sold "package deals" which included the train ticket
to the port. The steamship companies developed local networks of
agents in all the eastern european cities and many of the shtetls.

I would recommend Irving Howe's book "The World of Our Fathers" in
which he described the four main routes: He also claimed that it took
2-4 days to journey >from a shtetl in the Pale to the ports.

Just a reminder that immigrants needed only a ticket; most immigrants
traveled without official paperwork (with the exception of the Russian
requirements for men to have completed military service).

In summary it was fairly easy to travel >from an obscure European
village to the US by the late 19th century.

This is a interesting subject and will be covered in depth in my
presentation on The Immigrant Voyage, at the New York JGS on October
25th.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
VP, Education, www.JewishGen.org/education
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Steamship tickets from Europe to America #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Train tracks covered eastern europe by 1900, and the steamship
companies often sold "package deals" which included the train ticket
to the port. The steamship companies developed local networks of
agents in all the eastern european cities and many of the shtetls.

I would recommend Irving Howe's book "The World of Our Fathers" in
which he described the four main routes: He also claimed that it took
2-4 days to journey >from a shtetl in the Pale to the ports.

Just a reminder that immigrants needed only a ticket; most immigrants
traveled without official paperwork (with the exception of the Russian
requirements for men to have completed military service).

In summary it was fairly easy to travel >from an obscure European
village to the US by the late 19th century.

This is a interesting subject and will be covered in depth in my
presentation on The Immigrant Voyage, at the New York JGS on October
25th.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
VP, Education, www.JewishGen.org/education
Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Amit Naor wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Julian, Polish pron.[yoo lian] is not a Jewish name. Julian and the
related name Julius have been adopted by Jews >from Latin to allow
the entry into non-Jewish society or workplace.

There is no relation to any known Yiddish name, people just adopted
Gentile name because they like it, or perhaps name started on the
same letter as their Yiddish name (such as Juda). BTW, a diminutive
form of Polish Julian is Julek [yoo leck]

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
Offering ABRAHAMS Birth Record from England - not mine #general

Elynn Boss
 

I have the birth record for Myer ABRAHAMS, born 21 Feb 1881 in
Whitechapel, Middlesex Co, England. He was the son of Israel
Abrahams and Leah Harris. This is not my ancestor.

I will gladly send a copy of this record to anyone that would
like it. Please contact me off list.

Elynn Boss
Texas, USA
bossgen_1@att.net

Searching: Abrahams, Dreishpoon, Danovitch/Daynes, Gichtin/Gertin
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Amit Naor wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Julian, Polish pron.[yoo lian] is not a Jewish name. Julian and the
related name Julius have been adopted by Jews >from Latin to allow
the entry into non-Jewish society or workplace.

There is no relation to any known Yiddish name, people just adopted
Gentile name because they like it, or perhaps name started on the
same letter as their Yiddish name (such as Juda). BTW, a diminutive
form of Polish Julian is Julek [yoo leck]

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering ABRAHAMS Birth Record from England - not mine #general

Elynn Boss
 

I have the birth record for Myer ABRAHAMS, born 21 Feb 1881 in
Whitechapel, Middlesex Co, England. He was the son of Israel
Abrahams and Leah Harris. This is not my ancestor.

I will gladly send a copy of this record to anyone that would
like it. Please contact me off list.

Elynn Boss
Texas, USA
bossgen_1@att.net

Searching: Abrahams, Dreishpoon, Danovitch/Daynes, Gichtin/Gertin
Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Jules Levin
 

On 7/29/2014 5:34 AM, Amit Naor amitna87@gmail.com wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
The secularization of European Jews did not start in America. By the
end of the 19th Century many middle and upper class Jews were adopting
secular names, and Julian/Julius were often used for Yehudah. Moshe
became Mauritz, which became Morris in America, etc.
Jules (Yehudah) Levin
Los Angeles
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Jules Levin
 

On 7/29/2014 5:34 AM, Amit Naor amitna87@gmail.com wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
The secularization of European Jews did not start in America. By the
end of the 19th Century many middle and upper class Jews were adopting
secular names, and Julian/Julius were often used for Yehudah. Moshe
became Mauritz, which became Morris in America, etc.
Jules (Yehudah) Levin
Los Angeles
Synagogue Memorial Plaques #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

I have acquired 9 bronze Synagogue Memorial Plaques in a lot
of collectibles at an auction. They are 4x6 inches.

The plaques weight about one pound and it will coast about
$7.50 to mail them.

According to the 1940 census most of the people lived in
Queens or Brooklyn New York.

I do not know the name of the synagogue or its location. I
am willing to return them to family members if you contact me
privately.

Bronze Plaques

Presented by In Memory of

David Wagmeister Jacob J Wagmeister
Mrs. Samuel Altholtz Samuel Altholtz
David Wagmeister Esther D. Wagmeister
Frank Brown Samuel Klein
Brown Family Samuel Klein
Jacob Klein Samuel Klein
Sgt Chas Smith Post
#116 JWV Morris Berkal
Sam J Perry Robert Perry
B.S. Michaelson Sally E. Michaelson

Regards,

Walter Spector

Searching:
SPECTOR- Zaslov (Izyaslov) Volhynia Gub. Ukraine-Woodbine NJ-Phila. PA;
EBY (AB) Rushany, Grodno Gub. Belarus-Woodbine NJ- Phila.PA;
BECKER- Klevan, Rovno Phila. PA Brooklyn NY: GREENSTEIN-Boston MA:
SELTZER (ZELTZER)Rovno, Klevan, Alexandria; Poland-Brooklyn NY
LONDE, LANDAU,LONDON, LANDER, Proskrov- Phila. PA
PITKOWSKI Rushany, Grodno Gub. STEINBERG - Phila. ROTHSTEIN (Rotstein)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Synagogue Memorial Plaques #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

I have acquired 9 bronze Synagogue Memorial Plaques in a lot
of collectibles at an auction. They are 4x6 inches.

The plaques weight about one pound and it will coast about
$7.50 to mail them.

According to the 1940 census most of the people lived in
Queens or Brooklyn New York.

I do not know the name of the synagogue or its location. I
am willing to return them to family members if you contact me
privately.

Bronze Plaques

Presented by In Memory of

David Wagmeister Jacob J Wagmeister
Mrs. Samuel Altholtz Samuel Altholtz
David Wagmeister Esther D. Wagmeister
Frank Brown Samuel Klein
Brown Family Samuel Klein
Jacob Klein Samuel Klein
Sgt Chas Smith Post
#116 JWV Morris Berkal
Sam J Perry Robert Perry
B.S. Michaelson Sally E. Michaelson

Regards,

Walter Spector

Searching:
SPECTOR- Zaslov (Izyaslov) Volhynia Gub. Ukraine-Woodbine NJ-Phila. PA;
EBY (AB) Rushany, Grodno Gub. Belarus-Woodbine NJ- Phila.PA;
BECKER- Klevan, Rovno Phila. PA Brooklyn NY: GREENSTEIN-Boston MA:
SELTZER (ZELTZER)Rovno, Klevan, Alexandria; Poland-Brooklyn NY
LONDE, LANDAU,LONDON, LANDER, Proskrov- Phila. PA
PITKOWSKI Rushany, Grodno Gub. STEINBERG - Phila. ROTHSTEIN (Rotstein)
ViewMate translation request - German (maybe some Polish too) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hello fellow travelers,

I've posted a vital record for which I would be grateful for a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34920

Thank you very much.

D Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - German (maybe some Polish too) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hello fellow travelers,

I've posted a vital record for which I would be grateful for a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34920

Thank you very much.

D Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Amit N
 

Hi,

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Also, a soundex search in JRI-Poland gives me all kinds of results
connected to the name Szlama or versions of it. Is there any
connection or is it just a glitch in the algorithm?

Thank you
Amit Naor
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile on Soundex encoding at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/soundex.html
will explain those matches between Julian and Szlama. Scroll down to
the section on Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Coding.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Amit N
 

Hi,

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Also, a soundex search in JRI-Poland gives me all kinds of results
connected to the name Szlama or versions of it. Is there any
connection or is it just a glitch in the algorithm?

Thank you
Amit Naor
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile on Soundex encoding at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/soundex.html
will explain those matches between Julian and Szlama. Scroll down to
the section on Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Coding.
Israeli Artist BARLI-JOEL #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking for the family of Esther BARLI (originally Berlin) -JOEL, a
noted Israeli artist, 1895-1972

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Israeli Artist BARLI-JOEL #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking for the family of Esther BARLI (originally Berlin) -JOEL, a
noted Israeli artist, 1895-1972

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
GURARY/GURARIE #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to make contact with the family of
Jules (Isser Yehuda) GURARY, born in Kremenchug in 1891 and died in
New York City in 1964, married in Budapest in 1909 to Ruth (Rachel),
daughter of R. Isaac Leib Schreiber. His children were 1. Lilly, born
on August 21, 1912 and died in Woodmere on December 3, 1993, married
Eli Gut, lived in Woodmere, Long Island, NY and 2. Paul (Schnieur
Zalman Yitzchak) Gurary, born in Vienna in 1919 and died in ----,
lived in Mnahattan, NY.

--
Neil RosensteinBOVARNICK
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic GURARY/GURARIE #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to make contact with the family of
Jules (Isser Yehuda) GURARY, born in Kremenchug in 1891 and died in
New York City in 1964, married in Budapest in 1909 to Ruth (Rachel),
daughter of R. Isaac Leib Schreiber. His children were 1. Lilly, born
on August 21, 1912 and died in Woodmere on December 3, 1993, married
Eli Gut, lived in Woodmere, Long Island, NY and 2. Paul (Schnieur
Zalman Yitzchak) Gurary, born in Vienna in 1919 and died in ----,
lived in Mnahattan, NY.

--
Neil RosensteinBOVARNICK
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