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Vilnius Historical Archive #lithuania

Steve Herberman
 

Has anyone ordered records >from the Vilnius Historical Archive for the
town Molodechno (Maladzyechna) now in Belarus? I understand the civil
records before 1921 are stored in this archive and are in Russian and
Hebrew. I'm considering hiring a researcher either in Vilnius or
possibly even in Salt Lake City Utah as it appears that the FHL has
microfilms >from the Vilnius Historical Archive (though I'm not sure if
they have any for Molodechno.) I'm just starting on this search and
would appreciate any advice in obtaining civil records >from Molodechno.

Thanks,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vilnius Historical Archive #lithuania

Steve Herberman
 

Has anyone ordered records >from the Vilnius Historical Archive for the
town Molodechno (Maladzyechna) now in Belarus? I understand the civil
records before 1921 are stored in this archive and are in Russian and
Hebrew. I'm considering hiring a researcher either in Vilnius or
possibly even in Salt Lake City Utah as it appears that the FHL has
microfilms >from the Vilnius Historical Archive (though I'm not sure if
they have any for Molodechno.) I'm just starting on this search and
would appreciate any advice in obtaining civil records >from Molodechno.

Thanks,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


Re: Are my ancestors Hungarian? #general

tom.venetia@...
 

Hi Merav,

Definitively your ancestors came >from Hungary. I know this after a Google
search. View this page:
http://hg.hu/cikkek/varos/14665-magyar-szigetek-a-nagyvilagban

Now, since this is a Hungarian site, written in Hungarian, here is the
translation of the small snipped titled "A szent város magyar negyede:
Batei Ungarin, Jeruzsálem, Izrael" which means the "Holy City's Hungarian
district: Batei Hungarin, Jerusalem, Israel"

"As the name suggests its Hungarian origin, Batei Hungarin was founded in
1891 by Kolel Ungarin, an organization that supported the return of Jews to
the Holy Land. Initially the immigrants that settled there came >from Hungary
and belonged to what today is called the ultra-orthodox (Haredim)
denomination. The name means 'Hungarian homes' and by the turn of the
century the place had approximately hundred houses, a synagogue, a Talmud
Torah school, and a mikvah. However, one could barely hear a Hungarian word
since the inhabitants spoke Hebrew: only the district's title kept its
Hungarian origin. Even today its dwellers consider it important that their
ancestors came >from Hungary and here [in Batei Hungarin] they saw the
sunshine."

The sole doubt I have are the dates you mention (1850 and 1870) when this
district did not exist yet. But it could well be that Moshe and Scheine
moved there because they came to Palestine >from Hungary previously.

As if the district was built by poor Hungarian, I do not know the answer,
but given that your folks came >from Hungary and were ultra-orthodox, it is a
good guess that originally they moved >from Galicia (Poland) to the northern
part of the Hungarian Empire (Ung, Bereg, Marama'ros, Szatma'r, etc.). Most
of Galician Jews were very poor people.

Last but not least, the Hatam Sofer did not live in the above mentioned
districts/counties of Hungary nor in the timeframe you mentioned. Rather he
lived in Bratislava (today Slovakia, Pressburg in German, Pozsony in
Hungarian) where he founded a famous yeshiva. Read this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Sofer
and you will probably conclude that the lore mentioned is unlikely (Hatam
Sofer died in 1939, still in Bratislava).

Good luck
Tom Venetianer

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Are my ancestors Hungarian?
From: "Merav Schejtman" <meravmario@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:26:13 +0200

I am trying to find my father's paternal family.
We know that Moshe STERN was born in Jerusalem around 1850.
We know that he and his wife Scheine lived in the Old City until 1870 or so
when they moved, first to Mishkenot Shaananim and then to Batei Ungarn.
from what I understand of this neighborhood, Batei Ungarn were built for
poor people of Hungarian descent.
Can I then say, that The Stern family came to Israel/Palestine form Hungary?
Some family lore suggests that the family came because of the Hatam Sofer in
1810. Any ideas as to how to follow up on this?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Are my ancestors Hungarian? #general

tom.venetia@...
 

Hi Merav,

Definitively your ancestors came >from Hungary. I know this after a Google
search. View this page:
http://hg.hu/cikkek/varos/14665-magyar-szigetek-a-nagyvilagban

Now, since this is a Hungarian site, written in Hungarian, here is the
translation of the small snipped titled "A szent város magyar negyede:
Batei Ungarin, Jeruzsálem, Izrael" which means the "Holy City's Hungarian
district: Batei Hungarin, Jerusalem, Israel"

"As the name suggests its Hungarian origin, Batei Hungarin was founded in
1891 by Kolel Ungarin, an organization that supported the return of Jews to
the Holy Land. Initially the immigrants that settled there came >from Hungary
and belonged to what today is called the ultra-orthodox (Haredim)
denomination. The name means 'Hungarian homes' and by the turn of the
century the place had approximately hundred houses, a synagogue, a Talmud
Torah school, and a mikvah. However, one could barely hear a Hungarian word
since the inhabitants spoke Hebrew: only the district's title kept its
Hungarian origin. Even today its dwellers consider it important that their
ancestors came >from Hungary and here [in Batei Hungarin] they saw the
sunshine."

The sole doubt I have are the dates you mention (1850 and 1870) when this
district did not exist yet. But it could well be that Moshe and Scheine
moved there because they came to Palestine >from Hungary previously.

As if the district was built by poor Hungarian, I do not know the answer,
but given that your folks came >from Hungary and were ultra-orthodox, it is a
good guess that originally they moved >from Galicia (Poland) to the northern
part of the Hungarian Empire (Ung, Bereg, Marama'ros, Szatma'r, etc.). Most
of Galician Jews were very poor people.

Last but not least, the Hatam Sofer did not live in the above mentioned
districts/counties of Hungary nor in the timeframe you mentioned. Rather he
lived in Bratislava (today Slovakia, Pressburg in German, Pozsony in
Hungarian) where he founded a famous yeshiva. Read this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Sofer
and you will probably conclude that the lore mentioned is unlikely (Hatam
Sofer died in 1939, still in Bratislava).

Good luck
Tom Venetianer

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Are my ancestors Hungarian?
From: "Merav Schejtman" <meravmario@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:26:13 +0200

I am trying to find my father's paternal family.
We know that Moshe STERN was born in Jerusalem around 1850.
We know that he and his wife Scheine lived in the Old City until 1870 or so
when they moved, first to Mishkenot Shaananim and then to Batei Ungarn.
from what I understand of this neighborhood, Batei Ungarn were built for
poor people of Hungarian descent.
Can I then say, that The Stern family came to Israel/Palestine form Hungary?
Some family lore suggests that the family came because of the Hatam Sofer in
1810. Any ideas as to how to follow up on this?


Re: What documents did Jewish immigrants need to enter the U.S. around 1900? #general

Judith Singer
 

As a follow-up to my previous question: does anyone know if an
emigrant who had left Russia illegally, without a passport, would have
needed identity papers in England?

He would almost certainly have had to cross England >from a North Sea
port such as Hull (a cheap, quick passage >from German ports) to get to
Liverpool, which was his port of departure.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Judith Singer
<jsingerarslibris@gmail.com> wrote:
I have asked a similar question previously, but I will now make it
broader: what identification or other documents, if any, would a
Russian Jewish immigrant have needed to enter the U.S. around 1900?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What documents did Jewish immigrants need to enter the U.S. around 1900? #general

Judith Singer
 

As a follow-up to my previous question: does anyone know if an
emigrant who had left Russia illegally, without a passport, would have
needed identity papers in England?

He would almost certainly have had to cross England >from a North Sea
port such as Hull (a cheap, quick passage >from German ports) to get to
Liverpool, which was his port of departure.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Judith Singer
<jsingerarslibris@gmail.com> wrote:
I have asked a similar question previously, but I will now make it
broader: what identification or other documents, if any, would a
Russian Jewish immigrant have needed to enter the U.S. around 1900?


Berlin Civil Marriage Contracts #germany

Rene van Wijngaarden
 

Dear Friends,

Is there a kind soul in this group willing to help reading the
essentials of two Berlin marriage contracts of the beginning of the 20
centuries.
The contracts are of 2 brothers, Hendrik VAN DAELEN married to Else
Sofie ARNHEIM and Isaac VAN DAELEN married to Hertha KILINSKI
The brothers are natives of Rotterdam-Holland. I have difficulties in
reading the German letters but do understand the German language.
No verbal translation but just the essentials would be very welcome.
In case anybody likes to help let me know and I will send you the
civil marriage deeds. Thanks,

Rene van Wijngaarden-Netherlands delvalle.rene@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You should use JewishGen ViewMate for this.


German SIG #Germany Berlin Civil Marriage Contracts #germany

Rene van Wijngaarden
 

Dear Friends,

Is there a kind soul in this group willing to help reading the
essentials of two Berlin marriage contracts of the beginning of the 20
centuries.
The contracts are of 2 brothers, Hendrik VAN DAELEN married to Else
Sofie ARNHEIM and Isaac VAN DAELEN married to Hertha KILINSKI
The brothers are natives of Rotterdam-Holland. I have difficulties in
reading the German letters but do understand the German language.
No verbal translation but just the essentials would be very welcome.
In case anybody likes to help let me know and I will send you the
civil marriage deeds. Thanks,

Rene van Wijngaarden-Netherlands delvalle.rene@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You should use JewishGen ViewMate for this.


Alfred MORGENSTERN #germany

Irene Newhouse
 

Alfred MORGENSTERN was born in Berlin on 1 Nov 1865. His parents were
Theodor MORGENSTERN and Lina nee BAUER. Lina MORGENSTERN was known in
Berlin for her philanthropic work as "Suppenlina". She and her husband
also founded & edited the deutsche Hausfrauenzeitung.

Much of what I know about Alfred comes >from his mother's entry in Neue
Deutsche Biographie (NDB). Independent of that entry, I have found from
online digitized documents that in 1895 he was appointed
Regierungsbaufuehrer, and in 1903 Regierungsbaumeister.His residence
in 1895 was Berlin, in 1903, Koblenz.

According to NDB, he was associated with building the section from
Wernigerode to the Brocken of the Harz Railway, the Albula Viaduct
in Switzerland and the Otavi Railway in Southwest Africa. However,
I've been unable to find online reference to his involvement in web
pages associated with these projects.

I've also learned that during World War I, >from 1914-16, he was
with Julius Berger Tiefbau, but was let go due to differences in
opinion [>from a company history online].

This is the latest datum I have for him. No one in the family
remembers where or when he died. I'd like suggestions as to how
I might find that information. Thanks in advance!

Irene Newhouse, Kihei HI USA einew137@yahoo.co


German SIG #Germany Alfred MORGENSTERN #germany

Irene Newhouse
 

Alfred MORGENSTERN was born in Berlin on 1 Nov 1865. His parents were
Theodor MORGENSTERN and Lina nee BAUER. Lina MORGENSTERN was known in
Berlin for her philanthropic work as "Suppenlina". She and her husband
also founded & edited the deutsche Hausfrauenzeitung.

Much of what I know about Alfred comes >from his mother's entry in Neue
Deutsche Biographie (NDB). Independent of that entry, I have found from
online digitized documents that in 1895 he was appointed
Regierungsbaufuehrer, and in 1903 Regierungsbaumeister.His residence
in 1895 was Berlin, in 1903, Koblenz.

According to NDB, he was associated with building the section from
Wernigerode to the Brocken of the Harz Railway, the Albula Viaduct
in Switzerland and the Otavi Railway in Southwest Africa. However,
I've been unable to find online reference to his involvement in web
pages associated with these projects.

I've also learned that during World War I, >from 1914-16, he was
with Julius Berger Tiefbau, but was let go due to differences in
opinion [>from a company history online].

This is the latest datum I have for him. No one in the family
remembers where or when he died. I'd like suggestions as to how
I might find that information. Thanks in advance!

Irene Newhouse, Kihei HI USA einew137@yahoo.co


ViewMate Translation request - Polish #general

Sandra B Landers
 

This is a correction to my earlier posting for which I thought was
written in Russian. I have been notified by several members that it
is not in Russian but it is in Polish. I have thanked them personally
for bringing this to my attention.

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is a Death Record for Ruchla FURMANOWICZ 1853 >from Chorzele, Poland.
I'd like to know the names, date of event, ages and location of those
mentioned.

I'm trying to determine if Ruchla is related to my FURMANOWICZ Family
from Lomza, Poland. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37070

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much for your help.

Sincerely,
Sandy Landers
Tamarac, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation request - Polish #general

Sandra B Landers
 

This is a correction to my earlier posting for which I thought was
written in Russian. I have been notified by several members that it
is not in Russian but it is in Polish. I have thanked them personally
for bringing this to my attention.

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is a Death Record for Ruchla FURMANOWICZ 1853 >from Chorzele, Poland.
I'd like to know the names, date of event, ages and location of those
mentioned.

I'm trying to determine if Ruchla is related to my FURMANOWICZ Family
from Lomza, Poland. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37070

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much for your help.

Sincerely,
Sandy Landers
Tamarac, FL


Need Help Deciphering Town Name, Lodz Province #general

david colman <davidcolman@...>
 

I just found my greatgreat grandmother's 1920 Canadian landing record.
Her place of birth is written twice, once stating it's in Lodz, Polen.
The same place is written for next of kin >from where she's emmigrating.
In the latter case, the place looks fairly clearly written as Zulowitz,
although the first letter could be an L. In the other 2 instances, it
looks like the first letter is a J or possibly Y.

I have been unable to find a likely candidate for the town on my own and
would appreciate any suggestions.

David Colman

[MODERATOR: Posting the actual image on ViewMate - with enough surrounding
text in the same handwriting - will likely help others to offer better-
informed suggestions.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Help Deciphering Town Name, Lodz Province #general

david colman <davidcolman@...>
 

I just found my greatgreat grandmother's 1920 Canadian landing record.
Her place of birth is written twice, once stating it's in Lodz, Polen.
The same place is written for next of kin >from where she's emmigrating.
In the latter case, the place looks fairly clearly written as Zulowitz,
although the first letter could be an L. In the other 2 instances, it
looks like the first letter is a J or possibly Y.

I have been unable to find a likely candidate for the town on my own and
would appreciate any suggestions.

David Colman

[MODERATOR: Posting the actual image on ViewMate - with enough surrounding
text in the same handwriting - will likely help others to offer better-
informed suggestions.]


(US) Who Do You Think You Are Returns February 24 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The season for genealogy shows is upon us. Last week I mentioned Genealogy
Roadshow which starts in January. Now the new season for Who Do You Think
You Are!

The new season of Who Do You Think You Are has been announced by The
Learning Channel (TLC). It begins on February 24 at 10PM E/9C. There will
be eight episodes but on the TLC website promo they only give a glimpse to
the first four: Julie Chen, Angie Harmon, Sean Hayes, and Bill Paxton. To
see the preview go to :

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/who-do-you-think-you-are/videos/new-season-premiere.htm
[MODERATOR: http://tinyurl.com/pllmk5k]

Who Do You Think You Are is produced by Lisa Kudrow and Dan Bucatinsky. The
series is sponsored by Ancestry.com who provides the research on each of the
celebrities and the research is used to build the research for each story.

It will be shown on TLC which is part Discovery Communications. Check your
local cable provider for your local TLC station.

I have no affiliation with TLC, Ancestry.com or Who Do You Think You Are and
am posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) Who Do You Think You Are Returns February 24 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The season for genealogy shows is upon us. Last week I mentioned Genealogy
Roadshow which starts in January. Now the new season for Who Do You Think
You Are!

The new season of Who Do You Think You Are has been announced by The
Learning Channel (TLC). It begins on February 24 at 10PM E/9C. There will
be eight episodes but on the TLC website promo they only give a glimpse to
the first four: Julie Chen, Angie Harmon, Sean Hayes, and Bill Paxton. To
see the preview go to :

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/who-do-you-think-you-are/videos/new-season-premiere.htm
[MODERATOR: http://tinyurl.com/pllmk5k]

Who Do You Think You Are is produced by Lisa Kudrow and Dan Bucatinsky. The
series is sponsored by Ancestry.com who provides the research on each of the
celebrities and the research is used to build the research for each story.

It will be shown on TLC which is part Discovery Communications. Check your
local cable provider for your local TLC station.

I have no affiliation with TLC, Ancestry.com or Who Do You Think You Are and
am posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


ViewMate - Russian Translation Needed #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

I've posted 3 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation.

I am interested in names, dates, ages, names of parents, occupation,
witnesses' names and towns of origin. Surnames are HOFFER and HOFER.
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37051
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37060
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37061

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Walter S. Elias
St. Louis Park, Minnesota


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - Russian Translation Needed #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

I've posted 3 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation.

I am interested in names, dates, ages, names of parents, occupation,
witnesses' names and towns of origin. Surnames are HOFFER and HOFER.
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37051
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37060
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37061

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Walter S. Elias
St. Louis Park, Minnesota


Are my ancestors Hungarian? #general

Merav
 

I am trying to find my father's paternal family.

We know that Moshe STERN was born in Jerusalem around 1850.

We know that he and his wife Scheine lived in the Old City until 1870 or so
when they moved, first to Mishkenot Shaananim and then to Batei Ungarn.

from what I understand of this neighborhood, Batei Ungarn were built for
poor people of Hungarian descent.

Can I then say, that The Stern family came to Israel/Palestine form Hungary?

Some family lore suggests that the family came because of the Hatam Sofer in
1810. Any ideas as to how to follow up on this?

Thank you all

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem

Searching: NAGLER, STERN, ZYLBERSZAC, DURLACHER, MICHAELIS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Are my ancestors Hungarian? #general

Merav
 

I am trying to find my father's paternal family.

We know that Moshe STERN was born in Jerusalem around 1850.

We know that he and his wife Scheine lived in the Old City until 1870 or so
when they moved, first to Mishkenot Shaananim and then to Batei Ungarn.

from what I understand of this neighborhood, Batei Ungarn were built for
poor people of Hungarian descent.

Can I then say, that The Stern family came to Israel/Palestine form Hungary?

Some family lore suggests that the family came because of the Hatam Sofer in
1810. Any ideas as to how to follow up on this?

Thank you all

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem

Searching: NAGLER, STERN, ZYLBERSZAC, DURLACHER, MICHAELIS

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