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Re: Grandfather, Can anyone help? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

In respect to the continuing dialogue regarding whether the poster's
grandfather John Edward Freeman was Jewish or not, perhaps I can add my two
cents.

If one were to read the journals and reports of the missionary societies in
Great Britain, at the time, one would find that Jews were schlepped into
conversion, so to speak, with promises of food, health care, and other things
which would attract poor immigrants with terrible living conditions. A number
of these societies attracted people who were in work houses.

Some of these converts retained their new faith for the length of time it took
to partake of the needed benefits offered by the missionary societies. Others,
stuck with their conversions and many times married other converts. The men
Anglicized their names on many occasions, both the given and surnames, so that
it was sometimes difficult to determine who had been Jewish.

In the case of the situation which was posted, Mary Ann Freeman, age 32, and
her four children (Alice, age 13; John, age 6; Nellie, age 2; and Rosy, age 1)
were found in 1891 living with a single agricultural laborer, Charles Taylor,
age 29.

One thing which was seen right away is that Mary Ann's situation was not really
specified, i.e., she was not listed as a wife, other relative, or boarder.
Also note the large gap in age between her first and second children and the
various nearby villages such as Rainham, Romford and Barking where they were born.

It appears that Mary Ann may have lived a non-traditional life perhaps forced
upon her by poverty and lack of ready money, lack of or death of a husband, or
other similar reasons. It is possible that the supposed "Jewish" grandfather
may have been converted in the work house. Or, his antecedents, many years
before, had been Jewish and left no record of that.

One thing, for certain, is that Mary Ann Freeman stuck around the same rural
area and further records for her and her family may be found which could
enlighten whether there was a Jewish connection. The work house records may
be a good way to go to locate further data too and find out if Mary Ann had
been single when she had her son.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Grandfather, Can anyone help? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

In respect to the continuing dialogue regarding whether the poster's
grandfather John Edward Freeman was Jewish or not, perhaps I can add my two
cents.

If one were to read the journals and reports of the missionary societies in
Great Britain, at the time, one would find that Jews were schlepped into
conversion, so to speak, with promises of food, health care, and other things
which would attract poor immigrants with terrible living conditions. A number
of these societies attracted people who were in work houses.

Some of these converts retained their new faith for the length of time it took
to partake of the needed benefits offered by the missionary societies. Others,
stuck with their conversions and many times married other converts. The men
Anglicized their names on many occasions, both the given and surnames, so that
it was sometimes difficult to determine who had been Jewish.

In the case of the situation which was posted, Mary Ann Freeman, age 32, and
her four children (Alice, age 13; John, age 6; Nellie, age 2; and Rosy, age 1)
were found in 1891 living with a single agricultural laborer, Charles Taylor,
age 29.

One thing which was seen right away is that Mary Ann's situation was not really
specified, i.e., she was not listed as a wife, other relative, or boarder.
Also note the large gap in age between her first and second children and the
various nearby villages such as Rainham, Romford and Barking where they were born.

It appears that Mary Ann may have lived a non-traditional life perhaps forced
upon her by poverty and lack of ready money, lack of or death of a husband, or
other similar reasons. It is possible that the supposed "Jewish" grandfather
may have been converted in the work house. Or, his antecedents, many years
before, had been Jewish and left no record of that.

One thing, for certain, is that Mary Ann Freeman stuck around the same rural
area and further records for her and her family may be found which could
enlighten whether there was a Jewish connection. The work house records may
be a good way to go to locate further data too and find out if Mary Ann had
been single when she had her son.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


UK DNA testing #general

Sue Coleman <suecoleman1@...>
 

Hi
I am interested in taking a DNA test to help me with my genealogy research
which is stalled. The one recommended by JewishGen, FamilytreeDNA, seems
very US centric. Is it?

I am interested in hearing >from UK based researchers who have used DNA
testing in their research and which company they have used and their
success stories (or otherwise)

Many thanks

Sue Coleman
Harrow, UK

Researching POVOLOTSKY, BECOW, KOLOMINSKY (Ukraine) and SMOLENSKY (n/k)

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen UK DNA testing #general

Sue Coleman <suecoleman1@...>
 

Hi
I am interested in taking a DNA test to help me with my genealogy research
which is stalled. The one recommended by JewishGen, FamilytreeDNA, seems
very US centric. Is it?

I am interested in hearing >from UK based researchers who have used DNA
testing in their research and which company they have used and their
success stories (or otherwise)

Many thanks

Sue Coleman
Harrow, UK

Researching POVOLOTSKY, BECOW, KOLOMINSKY (Ukraine) and SMOLENSKY (n/k)

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regarding DNA testing are best posted on JewishGen's DNA testing discussion forum.
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Woman in Gold #austria-czech

Alex Woodle
 

As a follow up to Tony Hausner's email, the Internet Movie Database
gives April 3, 2015 as the release date for this movie.

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA


Rabbi Fajwel HOFER #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

Trying to trace the descendants of Rabbi Fajwel HOFER (HOFFER), b.1862 in
Biala Podlaska, Poland. He arrived >from Warsaw in the US in 1926 as a
widower. He was naturalized 6 Oct 1932 in NYC and died in 1934 in Brooklyn.
Children, Hyman, b. 1884 in Poland and Gertrude, b. 1910 in Poland.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Woman in Gold #austria-czech

Alex Woodle
 

As a follow up to Tony Hausner's email, the Internet Movie Database
gives April 3, 2015 as the release date for this movie.

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Fajwel HOFER #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

Trying to trace the descendants of Rabbi Fajwel HOFER (HOFFER), b.1862 in
Biala Podlaska, Poland. He arrived >from Warsaw in the US in 1926 as a
widower. He was naturalized 6 Oct 1932 in NYC and died in 1934 in Brooklyn.
Children, Hyman, b. 1884 in Poland and Gertrude, b. 1910 in Poland.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


Ancestry.com Announces Free access To Global Records Through December 29 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Ancestry.com announced free search to the best collections of 2014 in their
global records through December 29 11:59 PM ET. You need to register with
your name and email address and password -- if you do not have a password
from a previous Ancestry.com sign-in they will send you one. Go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/cs/lookback2014

To see the list of collections included in the free search go to:
http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/global_new_year
If when doing your search you go to one of the collections not covered by the
best collections of 2014 you will be promoted to purchase a subscription or try
their 14-day free trial which requires your providing your credit card number.
No credit card information is required for the be collections of 2014.

I have no relationship to Ancestry.com and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry.com Announces Free access To Global Records Through December 29 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Ancestry.com announced free search to the best collections of 2014 in their
global records through December 29 11:59 PM ET. You need to register with
your name and email address and password -- if you do not have a password
from a previous Ancestry.com sign-in they will send you one. Go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/cs/lookback2014

To see the list of collections included in the free search go to:
http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/global_new_year
If when doing your search you go to one of the collections not covered by the
best collections of 2014 you will be promoted to purchase a subscription or try
their 14-day free trial which requires your providing your credit card number.
No credit card information is required for the be collections of 2014.

I have no relationship to Ancestry.com and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Deaths of a couple, probably in Michigan and California #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Israel Pickholtz writes:

"I am looking for specifics on deaths and burials of a married couple.
In the 1900 census, they were in Detroit. In 1910 she is still in
Detroit, a widow.I do not see her in 1920 or 1930 and I see no death
or burial for him. (She is a Pikholz descendant.) In 1938, her sons
are in court in California fighting over her estate. There is a 1935
death date cited - no location.

Any suggestions on finding graves and death dates? The names are
uncommon, but not unique."

You can browse through the California Death index 1905-1939 on Family
Search, which has digital images arranged alphabetically by the name
of the deceased, initials of spouse, age, and date of death. Place of
death or county of death is coded.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1932433

This may be slow going, but you might get lucky and >from there you can
locate the full death record. (I think Family Search also has the
records now online, not searchable, but viewable.)

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Deaths of a couple, probably in Michigan and California #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Israel Pickholtz writes:

"I am looking for specifics on deaths and burials of a married couple.
In the 1900 census, they were in Detroit. In 1910 she is still in
Detroit, a widow.I do not see her in 1920 or 1930 and I see no death
or burial for him. (She is a Pikholz descendant.) In 1938, her sons
are in court in California fighting over her estate. There is a 1935
death date cited - no location.

Any suggestions on finding graves and death dates? The names are
uncommon, but not unique."

You can browse through the California Death index 1905-1939 on Family
Search, which has digital images arranged alphabetically by the name
of the deceased, initials of spouse, age, and date of death. Place of
death or county of death is coded.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1932433

This may be slow going, but you might get lucky and >from there you can
locate the full death record. (I think Family Search also has the
records now online, not searchable, but viewable.)

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@gmail.com


LitvakSIG Board meeting minutes posted in the Members Only site #lithuania

Barry Halpern
 

The minutes of LitvakSIG Board meetings (new files for meetings in
May, June, August, September and November) through November, 2014 have
now been posted to LitvakSIG's Members Only website. You can find them
by clicking through on the "LitvakSIG Business" section of the
site.

Barry Halpern
Secretary


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG Board meeting minutes posted in the Members Only site #lithuania

Barry Halpern
 

The minutes of LitvakSIG Board meetings (new files for meetings in
May, June, August, September and November) through November, 2014 have
now been posted to LitvakSIG's Members Only website. You can find them
by clicking through on the "LitvakSIG Business" section of the
site.

Barry Halpern
Secretary


Seeking researcher and possibly guide for Galicia (Poland) #poland

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

My husband and I are seeking a researcher to fill in gaps in our
knowledge of our ancestors who lived in Rzeszow and surrounding
towns as well as in Jaslo, Nowy Zmigrod, Sanok, Jaroslaw,and
Stary Sacz.

Among the research projects is to find out if there are landowner
records for Krasne, near Rzeszow and to see if we can access
cadastral maps for our ancestral towns.

We are also planning a roots trip to those areas as well as to
Tarnow and Nowy Sacz.

We would love to hear >from anyone who can give us information
about their experiences with researchers for these areas or
with guides for roots trips to this area of Poland, as well as
any other suggestions for travel there.

Beth and Henry Sommer
Philadelphia, PA USA

Researching LEIBNER, GROSS Nowy Zmigrod, Korczyna some -> NY
ACHTSAM Sanok -> NY
GREHER/GREYER/GRAY, FELD, WEISS Rzeszow some -> NY, NJ
SOMMER, KORNMEHL, SCHILLAY, TUCHVERDERBER, Tarnow
EINZIGER, SCHINAGEL, Nowy Sacz, Stary Sacz, Jaslo
KRIEGER, BUTTERMAN, HAAR, WOHLFELD, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with information about
Researchers.


JRI Poland #Poland Seeking researcher and possibly guide for Galicia (Poland) #poland

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

My husband and I are seeking a researcher to fill in gaps in our
knowledge of our ancestors who lived in Rzeszow and surrounding
towns as well as in Jaslo, Nowy Zmigrod, Sanok, Jaroslaw,and
Stary Sacz.

Among the research projects is to find out if there are landowner
records for Krasne, near Rzeszow and to see if we can access
cadastral maps for our ancestral towns.

We are also planning a roots trip to those areas as well as to
Tarnow and Nowy Sacz.

We would love to hear >from anyone who can give us information
about their experiences with researchers for these areas or
with guides for roots trips to this area of Poland, as well as
any other suggestions for travel there.

Beth and Henry Sommer
Philadelphia, PA USA

Researching LEIBNER, GROSS Nowy Zmigrod, Korczyna some -> NY
ACHTSAM Sanok -> NY
GREHER/GREYER/GRAY, FELD, WEISS Rzeszow some -> NY, NJ
SOMMER, KORNMEHL, SCHILLAY, TUCHVERDERBER, Tarnow
EINZIGER, SCHINAGEL, Nowy Sacz, Stary Sacz, Jaslo
KRIEGER, BUTTERMAN, HAAR, WOHLFELD, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with information about
Researchers.


IGS Israel lecture- resources on Anders Army soldiers #poland

Eli Brauner
 

A message to the Genealogical community in Israel.

In the Petah Tiqwa branch of IGS, Hatzmaott 44, at 19:00 Wednesday,
a lecture will be given about sources of information on soldiers in
the Anders Army. Many families had a member in this Polish army that
was formed in Soviet Russia and found its way to Palestine.

The unique story of the army will be told in the lecture.

Eli Brauner, Ph.D.
ISRAEL
E-Mail (Home): elib8@bezeqint.net


JRI Poland #Poland IGS Israel lecture- resources on Anders Army soldiers #poland

Eli Brauner
 

A message to the Genealogical community in Israel.

In the Petah Tiqwa branch of IGS, Hatzmaott 44, at 19:00 Wednesday,
a lecture will be given about sources of information on soldiers in
the Anders Army. Many families had a member in this Polish army that
was formed in Soviet Russia and found its way to Palestine.

The unique story of the army will be told in the lecture.

Eli Brauner, Ph.D.
ISRAEL
E-Mail (Home): elib8@bezeqint.net


Seeking researcher and possibly guide for Galicia (Poland) #galicia

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

My husband and I are seeking a researcher to fill in gaps in our
knowledge of our ancestors who lived in Rzeszow and surrounding
towns as well as in Jaslo, Nowy Zmigrod, Sanok, Jaroslaw, and
Stary Sacz.

Among the research projects is to find out if there are landowner
records for Krasne, near Rzeszow, and to see if we can access
cadastral maps for our ancestral towns.

We are also planning a roots trip to those areas as well as to Tarnow
and Nowy Sacz.

We would love to hear >from anyone who can give us information
about their experiences with researchers for these areas or with
guides for roots trips to this area of Poland, as well as any other
suggestions for travel there.

Beth and Henry Sommer
Philadelphia, PA USA

Researching LEIBNER, GROSS Nowy Zmigrod, Korczyna some -> NY
ACHTSAM Sanok -> NY
GREHER/GREYER/GRAY, FELD, WEISS Rzeszow some -> NY, NJ
SOMMER, KORNMEHL, SCHILLAY, TUCHVERDERBER, Tarnow
EINZIGER, SCHINAGEL, Nowy Sacz, Stary Sacz, Jaslo
KRIEGER, BUTTERMAN, HAAR, WOHLFELD, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send comments about specific researchers
and guides privately.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Seeking researcher and possibly guide for Galicia (Poland) #galicia

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

My husband and I are seeking a researcher to fill in gaps in our
knowledge of our ancestors who lived in Rzeszow and surrounding
towns as well as in Jaslo, Nowy Zmigrod, Sanok, Jaroslaw, and
Stary Sacz.

Among the research projects is to find out if there are landowner
records for Krasne, near Rzeszow, and to see if we can access
cadastral maps for our ancestral towns.

We are also planning a roots trip to those areas as well as to Tarnow
and Nowy Sacz.

We would love to hear >from anyone who can give us information
about their experiences with researchers for these areas or with
guides for roots trips to this area of Poland, as well as any other
suggestions for travel there.

Beth and Henry Sommer
Philadelphia, PA USA

Researching LEIBNER, GROSS Nowy Zmigrod, Korczyna some -> NY
ACHTSAM Sanok -> NY
GREHER/GREYER/GRAY, FELD, WEISS Rzeszow some -> NY, NJ
SOMMER, KORNMEHL, SCHILLAY, TUCHVERDERBER, Tarnow
EINZIGER, SCHINAGEL, Nowy Sacz, Stary Sacz, Jaslo
KRIEGER, BUTTERMAN, HAAR, WOHLFELD, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send comments about specific researchers
and guides privately.

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