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"Sounds like" and "Phonetically like" Surnames #general

Genealogy BLW
 

I am not certain of my paternal grandmother's maiden name.
Family lore tells me that it was BRODY, but her brother used BROD in the
U.S. They both consistently listed their birthplace as Marijampol,
Stanislawow, Galicia.

I started making a spreadsheet with all of the BROD, BRODT, BRAUT,
BROTH, BRAT, BRADY, and BROT entries >from JRI-Poland. I've also
surveyed the pages to see if I can discern naming patterns.

Here's my problem: Along with the names listed above, the search
engine produces records with FRIED, WIRTH, BART, FREIT, and so on. I
understand the algorithm used to produce these names, but has anyone
actually seen a surname change within a family >from one to a completely
different one? I can see the similarity of the names in the first group
as they mostly just a vowel change.

I'm thinking BROD or BROJDE (vowel change) to WERTH or FRIED or
BART? I'm tempted to eliminate those entries >from my spreadsheet
partly to weed out the chaff and partly because the association
doesn't make sense to me. I also see different naming patterns
for given names between the first group of surnames and the second.

Is this a reasonable approach or will i lose data by doing it?

Thank you,

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIELSZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and in USA, Canada, Paraguay,
Cuba, Brazil after emigration
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Sounds like" and "Phonetically like" Surnames #general

Genealogy BLW
 

I am not certain of my paternal grandmother's maiden name.
Family lore tells me that it was BRODY, but her brother used BROD in the
U.S. They both consistently listed their birthplace as Marijampol,
Stanislawow, Galicia.

I started making a spreadsheet with all of the BROD, BRODT, BRAUT,
BROTH, BRAT, BRADY, and BROT entries >from JRI-Poland. I've also
surveyed the pages to see if I can discern naming patterns.

Here's my problem: Along with the names listed above, the search
engine produces records with FRIED, WIRTH, BART, FREIT, and so on. I
understand the algorithm used to produce these names, but has anyone
actually seen a surname change within a family >from one to a completely
different one? I can see the similarity of the names in the first group
as they mostly just a vowel change.

I'm thinking BROD or BROJDE (vowel change) to WERTH or FRIED or
BART? I'm tempted to eliminate those entries >from my spreadsheet
partly to weed out the chaff and partly because the association
doesn't make sense to me. I also see different naming patterns
for given names between the first group of surnames and the second.

Is this a reasonable approach or will i lose data by doing it?

Thank you,

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIELSZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and in USA, Canada, Paraguay,
Cuba, Brazil after emigration
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.


Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=38369

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #general

WALTER ELIAS
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=38369

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


Viewmate: photo of man #general

ab.cohen@...
 

I have posted a photo on Viewmate that was taken in 1947.
I asked for identification of where it was taken;
Ite Doctorski has kindly identified it as in Antwerp, but does
anyone recognise the man and woman sitting at the front on the left.
I would like to know where they were living at the time and
what happened to them.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38302

Alan Cohen
researching DAJC, DEITSCH, KUTNOWSKI, GRAUZALC, PIECHOCKI, all >from Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate: photo of man #general

ab.cohen@...
 

I have posted a photo on Viewmate that was taken in 1947.
I asked for identification of where it was taken;
Ite Doctorski has kindly identified it as in Antwerp, but does
anyone recognise the man and woman sitting at the front on the left.
I would like to know where they were living at the time and
what happened to them.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38302

Alan Cohen
researching DAJC, DEITSCH, KUTNOWSKI, GRAUZALC, PIECHOCKI, all >from Poland


Two translations from Russian needed #general

Judith Elam
 

I am hoping that some kind genner can translate these two records for me
that are in Russian! I would greatly appreciate it!

1.
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/72/200/0/-/247/skan/full/3gRPVgLVOLmk7IihjwXzfw

Marriage record of Abram FURMAN and Ryfka MENDZIGURSKA, 8 July 1906 in
Warsaw.

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/m9vzunh )

2.
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/72/200/0/-/247/skan/full/jH0Zfc040Ry1Whm9a41CEA

Birth record of Nechemia FURMAN, 23 January 1905 in Warsaw. I know the
highlights, but would like to know if there are additional important
details. Please respond privately.

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/n8sdrns )

Thank you!

Judith Elam
Kihei, HI
elamj@hawaii.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Two translations from Russian needed #general

Judith Elam
 

I am hoping that some kind genner can translate these two records for me
that are in Russian! I would greatly appreciate it!

1.
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/72/200/0/-/247/skan/full/3gRPVgLVOLmk7IihjwXzfw

Marriage record of Abram FURMAN and Ryfka MENDZIGURSKA, 8 July 1906 in
Warsaw.

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/m9vzunh )

2.
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/72/200/0/-/247/skan/full/jH0Zfc040Ry1Whm9a41CEA

Birth record of Nechemia FURMAN, 23 January 1905 in Warsaw. I know the
highlights, but would like to know if there are additional important
details. Please respond privately.

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/n8sdrns )

Thank you!

Judith Elam
Kihei, HI
elamj@hawaii.rr.com


Viewmate: Russian document translations #general

Glenda Zuckerman <gzbird@...>
 

Hi, I would really appreciate some help in translating these records,
which I was told are written in Russian.

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38200

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38198

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38197

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38199

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38197

Thanks so much for your help!

Glenda Zuckerman, Ossining, NY

CUKIERMAN, ZUCKERMAN, TSUKERMAN, FLATOW, COHEN, SCHWARTZ, SWORZ,
COLTRACT, KOLTTRACT, RADER, FEINERMAN, EISENBERG,
CUKIERCORN,FUTTERMAN, SISEL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate: Russian document translations #general

Glenda Zuckerman <gzbird@...>
 

Hi, I would really appreciate some help in translating these records,
which I was told are written in Russian.

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38200

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38198

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38197

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38199

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38197

Thanks so much for your help!

Glenda Zuckerman, Ossining, NY

CUKIERMAN, ZUCKERMAN, TSUKERMAN, FLATOW, COHEN, SCHWARTZ, SWORZ,
COLTRACT, KOLTTRACT, RADER, FEINERMAN, EISENBERG,
CUKIERCORN,FUTTERMAN, SISEL


Lost relatives in Belgium #general

Madeleine Sann <madeleine.sann@...>
 

I've just learned that one and perhaps two children of my
grandfather's cousin Helena (SANN) KOSS survived the Shoah.
Born in Poland, they lived in Antwerp before the war. Neither individual
could be alive but I would greatly appreciate help trying to find any
descendants. No obvious leads in the Family Finder or on Infobel.be
One of these cousins posted numerous Pages of Testimony and I have her
address and name in Antwerp as of 1978. Please reply privately.

Madeleine Sann

Researching SANN-SAN-SAHN, Galizia; EINHORN, Galizia and Hungary;
BACHNER, Galizia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lost relatives in Belgium #general

Madeleine Sann <madeleine.sann@...>
 

I've just learned that one and perhaps two children of my
grandfather's cousin Helena (SANN) KOSS survived the Shoah.
Born in Poland, they lived in Antwerp before the war. Neither individual
could be alive but I would greatly appreciate help trying to find any
descendants. No obvious leads in the Family Finder or on Infobel.be
One of these cousins posted numerous Pages of Testimony and I have her
address and name in Antwerp as of 1978. Please reply privately.

Madeleine Sann

Researching SANN-SAN-SAHN, Galizia; EINHORN, Galizia and Hungary;
BACHNER, Galizia


Edward Brookes & Family #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

I know that an Edward Brookes married a Gladys Holder in 1948, had a
daughter Kay in 1954 who married in 1975 a John E Lyons - the family
originally lived in
London N22 and Edward and Gladys both died in Enfield Middx. But where are
Kay and her husband?


Decendants of Morris Chaikin #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom!!
Looking to connect with descendants of my Great-Grandfather Morris Chaikin
who died on Nov 16, 1932 & is Buried at Edmonton. He had 3 daughters besides
my Grandmother Annie who passed away in America in 1950. The other Sisters
Rae, Leah, and Celia Finkle died in England. Both Rae & Leah are also buried
in Edmonton. Celia is buried at the Rainham Cemetery in Essex. Celia had a
daughter Renee(Whom I was in Contact with years ago! They lived oat 50
Uxendon Hill in Wembley park.. Renee married a Harry Cohen & they had a
daughter HELEN..Rae & Leah had children whom I met in 1973, but had no
contact since then. Does anyone know of this family?
Hannah Chaikin my Great Grandmother died on Oct 11, 1940, Rae my Great Aunt
died on Aug 17, 1936, Leah her sister died in the late 1950's, & Celia the
youngest of the 4 daughters Of Morris died on April 25th, 1992
Thank you,
Ilan Leibowitz
Israel


Kate and John E Lyons. #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom,
I'm looking for the following couple who are likely relations of mine:
Kate & John Lyons
married in 1975, and originally lived in London N22. Has anyone ever heard
or known of them?
Thank you,
Ilan Leibowitz
Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Edward Brookes & Family #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

I know that an Edward Brookes married a Gladys Holder in 1948, had a
daughter Kay in 1954 who married in 1975 a John E Lyons - the family
originally lived in
London N22 and Edward and Gladys both died in Enfield Middx. But where are
Kay and her husband?


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Decendants of Morris Chaikin #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom!!
Looking to connect with descendants of my Great-Grandfather Morris Chaikin
who died on Nov 16, 1932 & is Buried at Edmonton. He had 3 daughters besides
my Grandmother Annie who passed away in America in 1950. The other Sisters
Rae, Leah, and Celia Finkle died in England. Both Rae & Leah are also buried
in Edmonton. Celia is buried at the Rainham Cemetery in Essex. Celia had a
daughter Renee(Whom I was in Contact with years ago! They lived oat 50
Uxendon Hill in Wembley park.. Renee married a Harry Cohen & they had a
daughter HELEN..Rae & Leah had children whom I met in 1973, but had no
contact since then. Does anyone know of this family?
Hannah Chaikin my Great Grandmother died on Oct 11, 1940, Rae my Great Aunt
died on Aug 17, 1936, Leah her sister died in the late 1950's, & Celia the
youngest of the 4 daughters Of Morris died on April 25th, 1992
Thank you,
Ilan Leibowitz
Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Kate and John E Lyons. #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom,
I'm looking for the following couple who are likely relations of mine:
Kate & John Lyons
married in 1975, and originally lived in London N22. Has anyone ever heard
or known of them?
Thank you,
Ilan Leibowitz
Israel


/KITTY and Edward. #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom,
A friend has shared the following with me, & perhaps someone might know
of them? If so, please contact me!!
Thank You,
Ilan Leibowitz


Kitty lived in Westbury Avenue London N.22 and we know that is in the
district of Haringey according to her death cert. index.
I found an Edward Brookes with his wife Gladys living in Russell Avenue
London N.22 - went to our English street directory and the roads are 2
away >from each other - thus I am taking it that the said Edward Brookes
son of Kitty lived down the road to her.


Edward Brookes married in 1948 a Gladys Holder, in the area of Wood
Green and in 1954 they had a daughter called KAY. A Kay Brookes =
married in 1975 in HARINGEY a John E Lyons

An Edward Brookes b. 1913 d.1991 in Enfield Middx. and a Gladys Brookes
b. 1918 d 2001 in Enfield - which is around the same area as Wood Green.
Remember these Borough/areas changed their boundaries quite often.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom /KITTY and Edward. #unitedkingdom

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom,
A friend has shared the following with me, & perhaps someone might know
of them? If so, please contact me!!
Thank You,
Ilan Leibowitz


Kitty lived in Westbury Avenue London N.22 and we know that is in the
district of Haringey according to her death cert. index.
I found an Edward Brookes with his wife Gladys living in Russell Avenue
London N.22 - went to our English street directory and the roads are 2
away >from each other - thus I am taking it that the said Edward Brookes
son of Kitty lived down the road to her.


Edward Brookes married in 1948 a Gladys Holder, in the area of Wood
Green and in 1954 they had a daughter called KAY. A Kay Brookes =
married in 1975 in HARINGEY a John E Lyons

An Edward Brookes b. 1913 d.1991 in Enfield Middx. and a Gladys Brookes
b. 1918 d 2001 in Enfield - which is around the same area as Wood Green.
Remember these Borough/areas changed their boundaries quite often.

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