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Re: Seeking grandfather's entry into US and his naturalization information #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Lewis Stein wondered if it was possible
that his GF entered the country illegally. He shared that the
various census reports gave DOBs of 1873 or 1874, entry to the US
in 1892, 1893 or 1894, and naturalization by 1910.


I very much doubt he was an illegal. There really was no such thing
at that time. In 1875 the Page Law - the first to restrict immigration
- was enacted. It barred "undesirable" Asians (a) coming to the US as
forced labor, (b) to be prostitutes, and (c) those regarded as
convicts in their native land.

In 1882, the 'Chinese Exclusion Act' barred the entire race >from
immigrating.

1882 also saw the enactment of the 'Immigration Act of 1882' which
authorized the rejection/expulsion of a "convict, lunatic, idiot,
or person likely to become a public charge (single or pregnant women,
disabled, ill or those carrying less than a specific amount of funds).

I doubt your GF would have been subject to the first two laws! As for
the third - well, he had a sister here.

Have you checked entries >from Canada? Have you gotten copies of his
naturalization papers? Have you looked for SILBERBERG? I suggest
you look again and try 'wild card' searches, i.e. S*L*RG. Good
luck and let us know what you find!

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking grandfather's entry into US and his naturalization information #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Lewis Stein wondered if it was possible
that his GF entered the country illegally. He shared that the
various census reports gave DOBs of 1873 or 1874, entry to the US
in 1892, 1893 or 1894, and naturalization by 1910.


I very much doubt he was an illegal. There really was no such thing
at that time. In 1875 the Page Law - the first to restrict immigration
- was enacted. It barred "undesirable" Asians (a) coming to the US as
forced labor, (b) to be prostitutes, and (c) those regarded as
convicts in their native land.

In 1882, the 'Chinese Exclusion Act' barred the entire race >from
immigrating.

1882 also saw the enactment of the 'Immigration Act of 1882' which
authorized the rejection/expulsion of a "convict, lunatic, idiot,
or person likely to become a public charge (single or pregnant women,
disabled, ill or those carrying less than a specific amount of funds).

I doubt your GF would have been subject to the first two laws! As for
the third - well, he had a sister here.

Have you checked entries >from Canada? Have you gotten copies of his
naturalization papers? Have you looked for SILBERBERG? I suggest
you look again and try 'wild card' searches, i.e. S*L*RG. Good
luck and let us know what you find!

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


Do you remember keesala meisala? Rossel? #bessarabia

Melody Amsel-Arieli <nomietai@...>
 

I remember my grandmother (born in the Klishkivitz, Chotin, Navatselitsa area)
playing "keesala meisala" with me, when I was a child.....
tickling the palm of my hand in a circular pattern,
then "running' up my arm.

My husband, also with Bessarabian roots (Ganchesti), knows "keesala meisala" >from his childhood too.
Is anyone else familiar with this?

And Pesach is around the corner-- is anyone making those special sour beets-- rossel?
And meat patties >from it?

Read all about it here
www.amselbird.com/rosy-rossel/

Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim, Israel
Researching ZAZULIA, MORGENSTERN, BECKER, and POLAK

from Klishkivitz, Chotin, and Navatselitsa


ViewMate translation request of French marriage in German #france

Pierre HAHN
 

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38470

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
--
Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Do you remember keesala meisala? Rossel? #bessarabia

Melody Amsel-Arieli <nomietai@...>
 

I remember my grandmother (born in the Klishkivitz, Chotin, Navatselitsa area)
playing "keesala meisala" with me, when I was a child.....
tickling the palm of my hand in a circular pattern,
then "running' up my arm.

My husband, also with Bessarabian roots (Ganchesti), knows "keesala meisala" >from his childhood too.
Is anyone else familiar with this?

And Pesach is around the corner-- is anyone making those special sour beets-- rossel?
And meat patties >from it?

Read all about it here
www.amselbird.com/rosy-rossel/

Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim, Israel
Researching ZAZULIA, MORGENSTERN, BECKER, and POLAK

from Klishkivitz, Chotin, and Navatselitsa


French SIG #France ViewMate translation request of French marriage in German #france

Pierre HAHN
 

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38470

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
--
Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco


INTRO - WALLACH and THEIBERGER - Austria-Hungary and Germany > Ohio #germany

Wally Wally
 

Hello
I'm Carol Wallach living in Boca Raton, Florida and started researching my
family background tracing my Great Grandmother's origin to Germany.

I found the following link that is my greatgrandmother on my father's
side was >from Germany, so her family must have lived there.
Her name was Adella THEIBERGER and all I know is I found her grave
in Marriata, Ohio, where she immagrated to and married my Great
Grandfather Samuel Wallach ( >from Austria/Hungry).

Adella THEIBERGER WALLACH ( 1865 - 1926 )
March 18, 1865 she was born in Germany and immigrated to the
U.S. in 1887. That's all I know >from her gravestone & obituary.
That's all I know so far.

I am interested in finding more about the past family ties to Germany
and where in Germany that they originated from.

That's why I have joined up to be a part of my Jewish background and
European origin and find out more.

thank you and looking forward to discovering more, I don't know German
nor can I translate it but online sources are available to do that easily
if I need to.

Thank you again, I have no previous experience in researching I just search
the internet and try to find as much information as possible and have just
started doing my own research. No one in my family had any previous knowledge
of this link til now.

Carol Wallach, Boca Raton, Florida cw.wally@...


German SIG #Germany INTRO - WALLACH and THEIBERGER - Austria-Hungary and Germany > Ohio #germany

Wally Wally
 

Hello
I'm Carol Wallach living in Boca Raton, Florida and started researching my
family background tracing my Great Grandmother's origin to Germany.

I found the following link that is my greatgrandmother on my father's
side was >from Germany, so her family must have lived there.
Her name was Adella THEIBERGER and all I know is I found her grave
in Marriata, Ohio, where she immagrated to and married my Great
Grandfather Samuel Wallach ( >from Austria/Hungry).

Adella THEIBERGER WALLACH ( 1865 - 1926 )
March 18, 1865 she was born in Germany and immigrated to the
U.S. in 1887. That's all I know >from her gravestone & obituary.
That's all I know so far.

I am interested in finding more about the past family ties to Germany
and where in Germany that they originated from.

That's why I have joined up to be a part of my Jewish background and
European origin and find out more.

thank you and looking forward to discovering more, I don't know German
nor can I translate it but online sources are available to do that easily
if I need to.

Thank you again, I have no previous experience in researching I just search
the internet and try to find as much information as possible and have just
started doing my own research. No one in my family had any previous knowledge
of this link til now.

Carol Wallach, Boca Raton, Florida cw.wally@...


(Canada, UK) Operation Pied Piper WWll Request For Information on Child Evacuees Can You Help? #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

During WWll the British government decided to relocate its children out of
urban centers to reduce the risk of bombing attacks and therefore the risk
of children being injured or killed. This was known as Operation Pied Piper.

Millions of people, predominately children were shipped not only to rural
areas in Britain but also to Canada, South Africa, New Zealand and the
United States. Remarkably, almost three million people were evacuated
during the first four days of the operation. The first evacuation started
the day Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939 and continued until
September 1944. OT read more about Operation Pied Piper see:
http://tinyurl.com/qg74ed4
Original url:
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/operation-pied-piper-the-evacuation-of-english-children-during-world-war-ii/

Can You Help?

The reason I am writing in 2015 about what happened 76 years ago is that
there is a Ph.D. graduate student, Claire Halstead, at Western University in
Canada, searching for anyone who knew a child evacuee as part of Operation
Pied Piper. For many of the evacuees, there are no records, no stories, no
narratives to assign following the evacuations. By the time she completes
her thesis, she will have accounted for more than 3,000 children who came to
Canada as part of Operation Pied Piper, of which 1,500 came by way of the
Children's Overseas Reception Board (CORB).

To read more about how to contact her directly and her work which she
hopes will eventually be included in the (UK) National Archives and
in Canada's archives see:
http://tinyurl.com/ob5mg26
Original url:
http://news.westernu.ca/2015/01/student-returns-identity-to-british-war-evacuees/

Thank you to Dick Eastman and the Eastman Online Genealogy Newsletter for
alerting us to this request for assistance in finding Operation Pied Piper
evacuees.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Canada, UK) Operation Pied Piper WWll Request For Information on Child Evacuees Can You Help? #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

During WWll the British government decided to relocate its children out of
urban centers to reduce the risk of bombing attacks and therefore the risk
of children being injured or killed. This was known as Operation Pied Piper.

Millions of people, predominately children were shipped not only to rural
areas in Britain but also to Canada, South Africa, New Zealand and the
United States. Remarkably, almost three million people were evacuated
during the first four days of the operation. The first evacuation started
the day Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939 and continued until
September 1944. OT read more about Operation Pied Piper see:
http://tinyurl.com/qg74ed4
Original url:
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/operation-pied-piper-the-evacuation-of-english-children-during-world-war-ii/

Can You Help?

The reason I am writing in 2015 about what happened 76 years ago is that
there is a Ph.D. graduate student, Claire Halstead, at Western University in
Canada, searching for anyone who knew a child evacuee as part of Operation
Pied Piper. For many of the evacuees, there are no records, no stories, no
narratives to assign following the evacuations. By the time she completes
her thesis, she will have accounted for more than 3,000 children who came to
Canada as part of Operation Pied Piper, of which 1,500 came by way of the
Children's Overseas Reception Board (CORB).

To read more about how to contact her directly and her work which she
hopes will eventually be included in the (UK) National Archives and
in Canada's archives see:
http://tinyurl.com/ob5mg26
Original url:
http://news.westernu.ca/2015/01/student-returns-identity-to-british-war-evacuees/

Thank you to Dick Eastman and the Eastman Online Genealogy Newsletter for
alerting us to this request for assistance in finding Operation Pied Piper
evacuees.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Help locating Diczhaza / Dichaza #hungary

tom
 

one thing to keep in mind with old (pre-1900)=20
spellings is that "cz" was simplified to "c", so=20
you are probably looking for "dichaza" (house of=20
dic). in the jewishgen gazetteer, it is indeed=20
listed at 48.17 N by 20.54 E. and then the=20
gazetteer offers the option of searching for=20
places within a 10-mile radius. (i find it=20
amusing that dichaza is 5.7 miles sw of kistanya.)

among the 229 places listed as being within 10=20
miles away, there are 6 with known jewish=20
communities, halmaj, szikszo, boldva, edeleny,=20
forro, and sajoszentpeter, of which some, like=20
szikszo and sajoszentpeter, are bigger than=20
others.


=2E...... tom klein, toronto

awmjr@... wrote:

I have been asked to assist my cousin in=20
locating the referenced village which is / was=20
reportedly in Borsod
megye. His aunt was reportedly raised there:=20
I suspect sometime in the very early 1900s.

I used various Web based tools and one pointed=20
me to some coordinates in the middle of
a field, west of Homrogd, Borsod m.
The coordinates are: 48=83 17' 0" North, 20=83 54' 0" East
>
> Can anyone help us with advice?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help locating Diczhaza / Dichaza #hungary

tom
 

one thing to keep in mind with old (pre-1900)=20
spellings is that "cz" was simplified to "c", so=20
you are probably looking for "dichaza" (house of=20
dic). in the jewishgen gazetteer, it is indeed=20
listed at 48.17 N by 20.54 E. and then the=20
gazetteer offers the option of searching for=20
places within a 10-mile radius. (i find it=20
amusing that dichaza is 5.7 miles sw of kistanya.)

among the 229 places listed as being within 10=20
miles away, there are 6 with known jewish=20
communities, halmaj, szikszo, boldva, edeleny,=20
forro, and sajoszentpeter, of which some, like=20
szikszo and sajoszentpeter, are bigger than=20
others.


=2E...... tom klein, toronto

awmjr@... wrote:

I have been asked to assist my cousin in=20
locating the referenced village which is / was=20
reportedly in Borsod
megye. His aunt was reportedly raised there:=20
I suspect sometime in the very early 1900s.

I used various Web based tools and one pointed=20
me to some coordinates in the middle of
a field, west of Homrogd, Borsod m.
The coordinates are: 48=83 17' 0" North, 20=83 54' 0" East
>
> Can anyone help us with advice?


KRIVIS family in Kavarskas, Ukmerge District #general

Howard Margol
 

Jeffrey Krivis - @Jkrivis - wrote:
I am researching the town of Kavarskas where my family is
from. Going on a trip there next month. Hoping to get some
direction >from the group on how to peel the onion and
discover more data about the KRIVIS family.
Regarding research, you can accomplish more at home with your computer
than you can doing research in Lithuania. Go to
www.litvaksig.org/contribute
and contribute $100 (good for 5 years) designated for the Ukmerge
district.

Once you become a member, you will see a lot of records for Kavarskas
as well as for the entire district.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for records acquisition


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KRIVIS family in Kavarskas, Ukmerge District #general

Howard Margol
 

Jeffrey Krivis - @Jkrivis - wrote:
I am researching the town of Kavarskas where my family is
from. Going on a trip there next month. Hoping to get some
direction >from the group on how to peel the onion and
discover more data about the KRIVIS family.
Regarding research, you can accomplish more at home with your computer
than you can doing research in Lithuania. Go to
www.litvaksig.org/contribute
and contribute $100 (good for 5 years) designated for the Ukmerge
district.

Once you become a member, you will see a lot of records for Kavarskas
as well as for the entire district.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for records acquisition


US Voter Registration Records On-Line ---Free Access---- & Some Google Info #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

I found FL & OH voter records by Googling names in quotation marks to get
DOB. I went to Florida Voter Records & it said you need to submit your DOB
to access your status. I thought it was a flaw on their website that I could
access by Googling a name. Went back today & found: As of 31 Jan 2015, a
privately owned genealogy website [unnnamed] has voter registration records
for CO, CT, DE, MI, OH, OK & RI using purchased copies of FL voter lists
which are public information. Use at your own risk, no warranty. This is a
new great resource for us genealogy sleuths.

http://flvoters.com/by_name/index_pages/d.html
If this doesn't work just put name in quotation marks +"florida voter"
You can click "Individual Detail Page" to see their address & year of
registration. Address can verify couple or relatives living at same place.

I've been Googling names on my family trees hoping to fill in the blanks.
Suggest you open * everything *.
I had 3 females b. after 1980 & the Fort Walton Beach Florida HS site had
their birthday, married names, spouses names, & if they had children. I then
got their DOB & husband's DOB >from FL voter registration.

Goggling a cousin of my husband b. 1911, a name I had never heard of, Del
Cogliano, came up. I would never have opened it before but I did. Relative of
his 1st wife who died years ago did a tree, every wedding photo 1911-2012
was there, kids, grandkids, grt-grandkids, photo of triplets b. 2012. Loads
of group photos. All BMD dates there. Never know where you will find family
info.

Have found good info on Face Book pages & profiles. Finding not just kids
but grandparents are on this. Takes time to go through all the data but a
lot is there. Check people who reply to them, some will be relatives. I go
back & forth between Google, Steve Morse - birthdays & related persons & phone
books to verify I have right person. Thank you, Steve Morse, you have made
my day over and over again!

Ellen Barbieri- Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA

Researching: ZYMAN, MARCUS- Lubowo (Liubavas, Lith); ZYMAN. KAPLAN.
KRAMARSKI, KANOWICZ-Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow,
GOLDBERG-? near Suwalki, to London then NYC 1871 with KANOWICZ wife


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen US Voter Registration Records On-Line ---Free Access---- & Some Google Info #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

I found FL & OH voter records by Googling names in quotation marks to get
DOB. I went to Florida Voter Records & it said you need to submit your DOB
to access your status. I thought it was a flaw on their website that I could
access by Googling a name. Went back today & found: As of 31 Jan 2015, a
privately owned genealogy website [unnnamed] has voter registration records
for CO, CT, DE, MI, OH, OK & RI using purchased copies of FL voter lists
which are public information. Use at your own risk, no warranty. This is a
new great resource for us genealogy sleuths.

http://flvoters.com/by_name/index_pages/d.html
If this doesn't work just put name in quotation marks +"florida voter"
You can click "Individual Detail Page" to see their address & year of
registration. Address can verify couple or relatives living at same place.

I've been Googling names on my family trees hoping to fill in the blanks.
Suggest you open * everything *.
I had 3 females b. after 1980 & the Fort Walton Beach Florida HS site had
their birthday, married names, spouses names, & if they had children. I then
got their DOB & husband's DOB >from FL voter registration.

Goggling a cousin of my husband b. 1911, a name I had never heard of, Del
Cogliano, came up. I would never have opened it before but I did. Relative of
his 1st wife who died years ago did a tree, every wedding photo 1911-2012
was there, kids, grandkids, grt-grandkids, photo of triplets b. 2012. Loads
of group photos. All BMD dates there. Never know where you will find family
info.

Have found good info on Face Book pages & profiles. Finding not just kids
but grandparents are on this. Takes time to go through all the data but a
lot is there. Check people who reply to them, some will be relatives. I go
back & forth between Google, Steve Morse - birthdays & related persons & phone
books to verify I have right person. Thank you, Steve Morse, you have made
my day over and over again!

Ellen Barbieri- Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA

Researching: ZYMAN, MARCUS- Lubowo (Liubavas, Lith); ZYMAN. KAPLAN.
KRAMARSKI, KANOWICZ-Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow,
GOLDBERG-? near Suwalki, to London then NYC 1871 with KANOWICZ wife


Hebrew Tombstone Translation #general

Elizabeth Scofield
 

I've posted a vital record for Jacob NEINKEN. Would someone kindly
translate the Hebrew for me?

It is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38461

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thanks very much.

Liz Scofield


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew Tombstone Translation #general

Elizabeth Scofield
 

I've posted a vital record for Jacob NEINKEN. Would someone kindly
translate the Hebrew for me?

It is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38461

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thanks very much.

Liz Scofield


Viewmate German town on death certificates #general

BRENERDA@...
 

I have posted two viewmates of two death certificates looking for help in
identifying town name.

They are:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38360

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38359

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

David Brener, Omaha, NE 168730

MODERATOR: The family names on David's certificates are
HOFFMAN and LOEB.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate German town on death certificates #general

BRENERDA@...
 

I have posted two viewmates of two death certificates looking for help in
identifying town name.

They are:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38360

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38359

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

David Brener, Omaha, NE 168730

MODERATOR: The family names on David's certificates are
HOFFMAN and LOEB.