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Re: How to prove residence in Warsaw #poland

antopolski <mantopolski1@...>
 

I would suggest another potential source of info : Jewish Historical
Institute in Warsaw. They have a genealogy section.

Here are links in English:

Genealogy service:

http://www.jhi.pl/en/genealogy/contact


About the Institute:

http://www.jhi.pl/en/institute

Established in 1947 they may have the richest collection of data about the
Jews of Poland.

Michael Antopolski
mantopolski1@gmail.com

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Subject: Re: How to prove residence in Warszaw at 1936-1938 period
From: BERLINE Nicole <nicole.berline@orange.fr>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:10:13 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Anita, I had the same problem as you do. I could not find any official
records of my grandparents, not even the birth record of my mother ,
born in Warsaw in 1917, because the books were destroyed during the war.
However I found three traces of my elusive grandfather Berek ROTENSZTEJN

1) http://genealogyindexer.org/

The 1908 and 1909 Warsaw Address and Business Directories contain in
principle a full list of Warsaw residents, not only those who had a
phone number ( contrary to the directories for later years).

on the same wonderful website,
I also found my grandfather in the member list of
Warsaw Jewish Commercial Employees' Mutual Aid Association Report
(all years >from 1897 until 1930).

2) http://warszawa.getto.pl/

also a wonderful database. Search by name under "people"

My grandfather is listed in the "gaz list" ( ironically, this is not not
a list of people who were gassed in the death camp of Treblinka, as my
grandfather most likely was, but a list of people who had to pay a gaz
bill, as of 1942... )

3) The Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en
A man who escaped the ghetto and later emigrated to Israel wrote pages
of testimony for everyone he could remember. It turned out he lived in
the same building as my grand-parents. Thanks to help of israelian
genealogists, I was able to find his daughter!

Best wishes
Nicole Berline, Paris. ROTENSZTEJN, SIETYNER (Warsaw, Zamosc). BERLIN
(Derechin)

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Subject: How to prove residence in Warszaw at 1936-1938 period ?
From: "Anita Hasson" <anihasson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:39:20 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

I'am wondering how could I prove,
that my father lived in Warszaw before the war,
at-least in the period of 1936-1938?

Is there any Cenzus of Warszaw inhabitants
by that time - or any administrative list to check?
(No private phone on their name by that time).

Thanking in advance for good advice -
Anita Hasson (Kagan),
Israel.

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JRI Poland #Poland RE: How to prove residence in Warsaw #poland

antopolski <mantopolski1@...>
 

I would suggest another potential source of info : Jewish Historical
Institute in Warsaw. They have a genealogy section.

Here are links in English:

Genealogy service:

http://www.jhi.pl/en/genealogy/contact


About the Institute:

http://www.jhi.pl/en/institute

Established in 1947 they may have the richest collection of data about the
Jews of Poland.

Michael Antopolski
mantopolski1@gmail.com

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Subject: Re: How to prove residence in Warszaw at 1936-1938 period
From: BERLINE Nicole <nicole.berline@orange.fr>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:10:13 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Anita, I had the same problem as you do. I could not find any official
records of my grandparents, not even the birth record of my mother ,
born in Warsaw in 1917, because the books were destroyed during the war.
However I found three traces of my elusive grandfather Berek ROTENSZTEJN

1) http://genealogyindexer.org/

The 1908 and 1909 Warsaw Address and Business Directories contain in
principle a full list of Warsaw residents, not only those who had a
phone number ( contrary to the directories for later years).

on the same wonderful website,
I also found my grandfather in the member list of
Warsaw Jewish Commercial Employees' Mutual Aid Association Report
(all years >from 1897 until 1930).

2) http://warszawa.getto.pl/

also a wonderful database. Search by name under "people"

My grandfather is listed in the "gaz list" ( ironically, this is not not
a list of people who were gassed in the death camp of Treblinka, as my
grandfather most likely was, but a list of people who had to pay a gaz
bill, as of 1942... )

3) The Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en
A man who escaped the ghetto and later emigrated to Israel wrote pages
of testimony for everyone he could remember. It turned out he lived in
the same building as my grand-parents. Thanks to help of israelian
genealogists, I was able to find his daughter!

Best wishes
Nicole Berline, Paris. ROTENSZTEJN, SIETYNER (Warsaw, Zamosc). BERLIN
(Derechin)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: How to prove residence in Warszaw at 1936-1938 period ?
From: "Anita Hasson" <anihasson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:39:20 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

I'am wondering how could I prove,
that my father lived in Warszaw before the war,
at-least in the period of 1936-1938?

Is there any Cenzus of Warszaw inhabitants
by that time - or any administrative list to check?
(No private phone on their name by that time).

Thanking in advance for good advice -
Anita Hasson (Kagan),
Israel.

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Finding Information in Warsaw Directories #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

There is a story about my maternal grandfather (name in Poland: Josek
Uszer SZNAJDER) that I would like to research. He was born in Ostrowiec
in 1893. He was a bit of a free thinker and decided not to follow his
father and siblings into the family business (shoe-making, I think).

Instead, he was trained as a cabinet maker. He supposedly apprenticed
himself to a "cousin" in Warsaw. He returned to Ostrowiec sans beard
and wearing modern clothing, married my grandmother in 1913, and
emigrated. I would like to find the cousin in Warsaw with whom he
apprenticed. I know of only two surnames that might identify the
cousin although there may be others, GORECKI or SZNAJDER. He would have
to be Jewish, of course.

The Genealogy Indexer (genealogyindexer.org) has a large assortment of
directories. For instance:

1913 Warsaw Address-Calendar
(http://mbc.cyfrowemazowsze.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=9816 ) or
1913/1914 Warsaw Business Directory (small)
http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=7570 )

The first publication is in Cyrillic, so I don't even know if
the language is Russian or Polish. The second one is in Polish.
Unfortunately, I cannot read either language, so I can't learn
much by visually scanning them although I tried. ;-)

I translated a few terms to help me search the second publication, but
it wasn't much help.
Cabinet - Szafy
Cabinet maker - Ekspres do szafy
Woodworking - Drewna
Carpentry - stolarstwo
Wood products - drzewne wyroby

I would greatly appreciate assistance in this research. Thank you!

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Finding Information in Warsaw Directories #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

There is a story about my maternal grandfather (name in Poland: Josek
Uszer SZNAJDER) that I would like to research. He was born in Ostrowiec
in 1893. He was a bit of a free thinker and decided not to follow his
father and siblings into the family business (shoe-making, I think).

Instead, he was trained as a cabinet maker. He supposedly apprenticed
himself to a "cousin" in Warsaw. He returned to Ostrowiec sans beard
and wearing modern clothing, married my grandmother in 1913, and
emigrated. I would like to find the cousin in Warsaw with whom he
apprenticed. I know of only two surnames that might identify the
cousin although there may be others, GORECKI or SZNAJDER. He would have
to be Jewish, of course.

The Genealogy Indexer (genealogyindexer.org) has a large assortment of
directories. For instance:

1913 Warsaw Address-Calendar
(http://mbc.cyfrowemazowsze.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=9816 ) or
1913/1914 Warsaw Business Directory (small)
http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=7570 )

The first publication is in Cyrillic, so I don't even know if
the language is Russian or Polish. The second one is in Polish.
Unfortunately, I cannot read either language, so I can't learn
much by visually scanning them although I tried. ;-)

I translated a few terms to help me search the second publication, but
it wasn't much help.
Cabinet - Szafy
Cabinet maker - Ekspres do szafy
Woodworking - Drewna
Carpentry - stolarstwo
Wood products - drzewne wyroby

I would greatly appreciate assistance in this research. Thank you!

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Yad Vashem @ IAJGS 2015 #general

Rose Feldman <resource-room@...>
 

Check out the opportunities and activities Yad Vashem is offering
IAGJS participants.

http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/remembrance/names/genealogy_conference.asp

Cynthia Wroclawski, Manager
The Shoah Victims' Names Recovery Project
Coordinator, IAJGS 2015, Yad Vashem

Rose Feldman
Resource Room Coordinator
35th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem July 6-10, 2015
www.IAJGS2015.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yad Vashem @ IAJGS 2015 #general

Rose Feldman <resource-room@...>
 

Check out the opportunities and activities Yad Vashem is offering
IAGJS participants.

http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/remembrance/names/genealogy_conference.asp

Cynthia Wroclawski, Manager
The Shoah Victims' Names Recovery Project
Coordinator, IAJGS 2015, Yad Vashem

Rose Feldman
Resource Room Coordinator
35th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem July 6-10, 2015
www.IAJGS2015.org


Live Descendants: Kimbler-Josefovitz #general

solkeys@thejnet.com
 

Hello Genners,
I would very very much appreciate if somebody can help me find live
descendants of my great aunt. I have a copy of her marriage certificate.
Her name was Mary Josefovits (Yosefovitz). She married Davis Kimbler in
New York on Dec. 29, 1901.
Regards,
Solomon Schlussel
solkeys@thejnet.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Live Descendants: Kimbler-Josefovitz #general

solkeys@thejnet.com
 

Hello Genners,
I would very very much appreciate if somebody can help me find live
descendants of my great aunt. I have a copy of her marriage certificate.
Her name was Mary Josefovits (Yosefovitz). She married Davis Kimbler in
New York on Dec. 29, 1901.
Regards,
Solomon Schlussel
solkeys@thejnet.com


Finding Information in Warsaw Directories #general

Genealogy BLW
 

There is a story about my maternal grandfather (name in Poland: Josek
Uszer SZNAJDER) that I would like to research. He was born in Ostrowiec
in 1893. He was a bit of a free thinker and decided not to follow his
father and siblings into the family business (shoe-making, I think).

Instead, he was trained as a cabinet maker. He supposedly apprenticed
himself to a 'cousin' in Warsaw. He returned to Ostrowiec sans beard and
wearing modern clothing, married my grandmother in 1913, and emigrated.
I would like to find the cousin in Warsaw with whom he apprenticed.
I know of only two surnames that might identify the cousin although there
may be others, GORECKI or SZNAJDER. He would have to be Jewish, of course.

The Genealogy Indexer (genealogyindexer.org) has a large assortment of
directories. For instance:

1913 Warsaw Address-Calendar
( http://mbc.cyfrowemazowsze.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=9816 ) or
1913/1914 Warsaw Business Directory (small)
( http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=7570 )

The first publication is in Cyrillic, so I don't even know if
the language is Russian or Polish. The second one is in Polish.
Unfortunately, I cannot read either language, so I can't learn
much by visually scanning them although I tried. ;-)

I translated a few terms to help me search the second publication, but
it wasn't much help.
Cabinet = Szafy
Cabinet maker = Ekspres do szafy
Woodworking = Drewna
Carpentry = stolarstwo
Wood products = drzewne wyroby

I would greatly appreciate assistance in this research. Thank you!

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Information in Warsaw Directories #general

Genealogy BLW
 

There is a story about my maternal grandfather (name in Poland: Josek
Uszer SZNAJDER) that I would like to research. He was born in Ostrowiec
in 1893. He was a bit of a free thinker and decided not to follow his
father and siblings into the family business (shoe-making, I think).

Instead, he was trained as a cabinet maker. He supposedly apprenticed
himself to a 'cousin' in Warsaw. He returned to Ostrowiec sans beard and
wearing modern clothing, married my grandmother in 1913, and emigrated.
I would like to find the cousin in Warsaw with whom he apprenticed.
I know of only two surnames that might identify the cousin although there
may be others, GORECKI or SZNAJDER. He would have to be Jewish, of course.

The Genealogy Indexer (genealogyindexer.org) has a large assortment of
directories. For instance:

1913 Warsaw Address-Calendar
( http://mbc.cyfrowemazowsze.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=9816 ) or
1913/1914 Warsaw Business Directory (small)
( http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=7570 )

The first publication is in Cyrillic, so I don't even know if
the language is Russian or Polish. The second one is in Polish.
Unfortunately, I cannot read either language, so I can't learn
much by visually scanning them although I tried. ;-)

I translated a few terms to help me search the second publication, but
it wasn't much help.
Cabinet = Szafy
Cabinet maker = Ekspres do szafy
Woodworking = Drewna
Carpentry = stolarstwo
Wood products = drzewne wyroby

I would greatly appreciate assistance in this research. Thank you!

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.


Italian-American Jews during WWII #general

David Laskin
 

A lot has been written about Italy's Jews during the Second World War,
but I'm curious about the experiences of Italian-American Jews. What
did they hear >from relatives in Italy? For those who were drafted,
what was their military experience like? I'm guessing some
Italian-American Jews were posted to Italy during the war -- I'm
curious about what that was like, how they felt about fighting against
their native country (this no doubt became more complicated after
Mussolini fell and Italy was taken over by the Germans). I'd love
hear >from Genners who have stories to tell.
Thank you. David Laskin, Seattle, WA


Looking for descendants of Max & Ella Steinberg #general

Lisa
 

Max, b. 1866 in Russia, emigrated to U.S. in 1885
Ella, b. 1867 in Russia, emigrated to U.S. in 1885
Children: Joseph Bernard, Rebecca (Selditz), Esther
Descendants may live in Philadelphia now.

My maternal grandmother, Dora Goldberg, lived with the family in Baltimore
between 1900 and 1910.
I believe she worked in Mr. Steinberg's business as well.
I am trying to find more information about her, through the Steinbergs.

Please contact me if you have any information.
lisafriedman@verizon.net

Thanks!
Lisa B. Friedman
Lisa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Italian-American Jews during WWII #general

David Laskin
 

A lot has been written about Italy's Jews during the Second World War,
but I'm curious about the experiences of Italian-American Jews. What
did they hear >from relatives in Italy? For those who were drafted,
what was their military experience like? I'm guessing some
Italian-American Jews were posted to Italy during the war -- I'm
curious about what that was like, how they felt about fighting against
their native country (this no doubt became more complicated after
Mussolini fell and Italy was taken over by the Germans). I'd love
hear >from Genners who have stories to tell.
Thank you. David Laskin, Seattle, WA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for descendants of Max & Ella Steinberg #general

Lisa
 

Max, b. 1866 in Russia, emigrated to U.S. in 1885
Ella, b. 1867 in Russia, emigrated to U.S. in 1885
Children: Joseph Bernard, Rebecca (Selditz), Esther
Descendants may live in Philadelphia now.

My maternal grandmother, Dora Goldberg, lived with the family in Baltimore
between 1900 and 1910.
I believe she worked in Mr. Steinberg's business as well.
I am trying to find more information about her, through the Steinbergs.

Please contact me if you have any information.
lisafriedman@verizon.net

Thanks!
Lisa B. Friedman
Lisa


Re: Reverse look up in Brooklyn, New York #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Carol Rombro Rider asked if there is an 1893 Brooklyn directory that
can be used to find who was living at a specific address then. She is
interested in a resident of 52 Osborne Street with possible surname
AUERBACH and unknown given name. Here is a general answer illustrated
by her question.

Many Brooklyn directories 1856-1908 are full-text searchable at
genealogyindexer.org. "Full-text" means you can search by street
address, for example. Unfortunately, 1893 is not available, the
closest being 1889 and 1897. When I search at genealogyindexer.org
for "52 osborn*" (with " to force a phrase search and * to match both
osborn and osborne), I find an Israel AUERBACH at 52 Osborn in the
1897 Brooklyn directory.

Note that links >from search results should jump directly to the
matching pages, but this can take a while because a large PDF must be
downloaded first.

Searching is not 100% accurate because Optical Character Recognition
(OCR) software was used to convert scans of the directories to
searchable text The accuracy of OCR depends on the quality of the
scans, and, in the case of these Brooklyn directories, the scans are
of relatively low quality (though still quite useful). For crucial
lookups, you can also try browsing these directories manually via the
links at http://genealogyindexer.org/directories#United, but this is
extremely laborious if you do not have a surname to go by.

Thanks to the Brooklyn Public Library for putting these directory
scans online. I have been told they plan to add more years.

Logan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Reverse look up in Brooklyn, New York #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Carol Rombro Rider asked if there is an 1893 Brooklyn directory that
can be used to find who was living at a specific address then. She is
interested in a resident of 52 Osborne Street with possible surname
AUERBACH and unknown given name. Here is a general answer illustrated
by her question.

Many Brooklyn directories 1856-1908 are full-text searchable at
genealogyindexer.org. "Full-text" means you can search by street
address, for example. Unfortunately, 1893 is not available, the
closest being 1889 and 1897. When I search at genealogyindexer.org
for "52 osborn*" (with " to force a phrase search and * to match both
osborn and osborne), I find an Israel AUERBACH at 52 Osborn in the
1897 Brooklyn directory.

Note that links >from search results should jump directly to the
matching pages, but this can take a while because a large PDF must be
downloaded first.

Searching is not 100% accurate because Optical Character Recognition
(OCR) software was used to convert scans of the directories to
searchable text The accuracy of OCR depends on the quality of the
scans, and, in the case of these Brooklyn directories, the scans are
of relatively low quality (though still quite useful). For crucial
lookups, you can also try browsing these directories manually via the
links at http://genealogyindexer.org/directories#United, but this is
extremely laborious if you do not have a surname to go by.

Thanks to the Brooklyn Public Library for putting these directory
scans online. I have been told they plan to add more years.

Logan


Kalischer Brueder Verein in NYC #general

David W. Perle
 

Hey, all. You've got to love how one little nugget leads you to another
to another. A fellow Genner found for me a quick item in the New York Times
after my great-grandfather William D. PERLE died on 1/7/57, >from this
synagogue. I just Googled it and found a 1927 directory of American
synagogues, listing officers with each one, and...this one has listed as its
secretary an A. PERLE. Might this synagogue have had a woman in that
position in 1927? (I see that "bruder verein" translates to "fraternal
club," but I see this listed as Kalischer Brueder Verein Congregation.)
It's possible that it was an unrelated Perle, but it's looking to me like
this was William's daughter--my great-aunt--Anna Perle.

So now I am naturally interested in learning a bit more about this
synagogue. :) Does anyone have any insight, and/or know where there might be
any archives of its officers and/or members, etc.?

David
Washington, DC
Researching ARONOWSKY, BLUM, PERLE, SMOLEY/SMOLA, GOTTLIEB, KROLL,
PRZEGRODA, etc...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kalischer Brueder Verein in NYC #general

David W. Perle
 

Hey, all. You've got to love how one little nugget leads you to another
to another. A fellow Genner found for me a quick item in the New York Times
after my great-grandfather William D. PERLE died on 1/7/57, >from this
synagogue. I just Googled it and found a 1927 directory of American
synagogues, listing officers with each one, and...this one has listed as its
secretary an A. PERLE. Might this synagogue have had a woman in that
position in 1927? (I see that "bruder verein" translates to "fraternal
club," but I see this listed as Kalischer Brueder Verein Congregation.)
It's possible that it was an unrelated Perle, but it's looking to me like
this was William's daughter--my great-aunt--Anna Perle.

So now I am naturally interested in learning a bit more about this
synagogue. :) Does anyone have any insight, and/or know where there might be
any archives of its officers and/or members, etc.?

David
Washington, DC
Researching ARONOWSKY, BLUM, PERLE, SMOLEY/SMOLA, GOTTLIEB, KROLL,
PRZEGRODA, etc...


ViewMate Translation Requests - Polish (GORECKI, WAINTROP in Opole Lubelskie & Markuszow) #general

Genealogy BLW
 

I have posted two records on ViewMate in Polish >from towns in Lublin
province. One is a birth record, and the second is a marriage record. I
am trying to sort out this family in able to identify siblings within
each generation in order to follow them into the 20th century, so
details are important. Please translate as completely as possible.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=38636

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=38677

Thank you,
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA=


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Requests - Polish (GORECKI, WAINTROP in Opole Lubelskie & Markuszow) #general

Genealogy BLW
 

I have posted two records on ViewMate in Polish >from towns in Lublin
province. One is a birth record, and the second is a marriage record. I
am trying to sort out this family in able to identify siblings within
each generation in order to follow them into the 20th century, so
details are important. Please translate as completely as possible.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=38636

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=38677

Thank you,
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA=

98561 - 98580 of 663833