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Re: Dorosic Forced Laborers #general

tom
 

As an aside, having read the moderator's note at the end of Paul Nussbaum's
posting, I followed the link to the description of the Dorosic massacre, and
read the description of the data set. But I haven't been able to figure out
how to look at a list of the victims' names. Using the All Hungary Database,
a search for "Dorosic" either in any field, or in town, returns zero records.
How can I browse the records, without having to know their names in advance?

tom klein, Toronto

paulnuss@... wrote:

[snip!]

I have tried to see the list of the Dorosic Laborers and have not been
successful. I just want to see the list

[snip!]

MODERATOR NOTE: Information may be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0230_Dorosic_forced_laborers.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dorosic Forced Laborers #general

tom
 

As an aside, having read the moderator's note at the end of Paul Nussbaum's
posting, I followed the link to the description of the Dorosic massacre, and
read the description of the data set. But I haven't been able to figure out
how to look at a list of the victims' names. Using the All Hungary Database,
a search for "Dorosic" either in any field, or in town, returns zero records.
How can I browse the records, without having to know their names in advance?

tom klein, Toronto

paulnuss@... wrote:

[snip!]

I have tried to see the list of the Dorosic Laborers and have not been
successful. I just want to see the list

[snip!]

MODERATOR NOTE: Information may be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0230_Dorosic_forced_laborers.html


Re: Dorosic Forced Laborers #general

tom
 

For what it's worth, my father was also a forced labourer at the same
time and place, and barely escaped being killed there. His unit was
there, and they were told that they were setting up a field hospital,
in a barn, for those who were too sick to continue marching. My father
was sick, but he said that there were others who were in worse condition,
and he could still go on. The massacre was carried out that night.

Do you know much about your father's experiences during the war?

tom klein, Toronto

paulnuss@... wrote:
My name is Paul Scott Nussbaum
My Jewish Gen ID# is 479670
My Father, Nuszbaum, Imre was a survivor of the massacre in the barn at
Dorosic. He had typhus and crawled out in delirium some time after
the shooting was over and woke up some time later

I have tried to see the list of the Dorosic Laborers and have not been
successful. I just want to see the list


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dorosic Forced Laborers #general

tom
 

For what it's worth, my father was also a forced labourer at the same
time and place, and barely escaped being killed there. His unit was
there, and they were told that they were setting up a field hospital,
in a barn, for those who were too sick to continue marching. My father
was sick, but he said that there were others who were in worse condition,
and he could still go on. The massacre was carried out that night.

Do you know much about your father's experiences during the war?

tom klein, Toronto

paulnuss@... wrote:
My name is Paul Scott Nussbaum
My Jewish Gen ID# is 479670
My Father, Nuszbaum, Imre was a survivor of the massacre in the barn at
Dorosic. He had typhus and crawled out in delirium some time after
the shooting was over and woke up some time later

I have tried to see the list of the Dorosic Laborers and have not been
successful. I just want to see the list


Almost Magical Translations #general

Bob Fitterman
 

Today I had a bit of insight to combine two things together that had
never crossed my mind. It might be of use to some of you in your research.

In looking at the email >from Logan Kleinwaks to Carol Rombrol Rider's query
about directories, I decided to try genealogyindexer.org . In my case, I put
in my maternal grandmother's maiden name and up popped dozens of listings in
Cyrillic. I had cast a very wide net and there were too may listings to be
of use, plus while I can sound out Russian, I have no grounding in vocabulary
and grammar. To me it's just phonetic. Nonetheless, I clicked through a few
of them and found a listing I was curious about.

I tried to copy the text, in hopes of putting it into translate.google.com .
Like many sites with full-text searching, the thing on the screen is an
image, so it's either impossible to select the image or if you do select an
image, there's no way to put it into the web-based version of Google
Translate. What I did that was new was I picked up my phone, where I have
installed the Google Translate App, and pointed it at the screen. (My exact
steps were to choose >from Russian to English translation, then press the
camera icon at the lower-left corner.)

Having told the app it was searching for Russian, it started translating
words >from the computer screen onto my phone screen. It wasn't all entirely
readable, but it was enough to figure out section headings of the document.
(It felt like that magic moment in the movies of the 1930s when the Chinese
signs temporarily melt into English and back.)

The pages I found did not help, yet, in my particular case, but I think this
might help some of you navigate through documents in unfamiliar languages.
It's no substitute for a fluent translator. Note that some languages support
this instant translation while others only support a scan feature that
requires tapping the screen and then selecting an area to translate which is
much more cumbersome. Yiddish is unsupported and handwriting will not work
either. I'm sure that things like headstones will completely confuse the
program.

Maybe I'm sharing something very obvious, but I had never thought to put the
two things together.

Bob Fitterman
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Almost Magical Translations #general

Bob Fitterman
 

Today I had a bit of insight to combine two things together that had
never crossed my mind. It might be of use to some of you in your research.

In looking at the email >from Logan Kleinwaks to Carol Rombrol Rider's query
about directories, I decided to try genealogyindexer.org . In my case, I put
in my maternal grandmother's maiden name and up popped dozens of listings in
Cyrillic. I had cast a very wide net and there were too may listings to be
of use, plus while I can sound out Russian, I have no grounding in vocabulary
and grammar. To me it's just phonetic. Nonetheless, I clicked through a few
of them and found a listing I was curious about.

I tried to copy the text, in hopes of putting it into translate.google.com .
Like many sites with full-text searching, the thing on the screen is an
image, so it's either impossible to select the image or if you do select an
image, there's no way to put it into the web-based version of Google
Translate. What I did that was new was I picked up my phone, where I have
installed the Google Translate App, and pointed it at the screen. (My exact
steps were to choose >from Russian to English translation, then press the
camera icon at the lower-left corner.)

Having told the app it was searching for Russian, it started translating
words >from the computer screen onto my phone screen. It wasn't all entirely
readable, but it was enough to figure out section headings of the document.
(It felt like that magic moment in the movies of the 1930s when the Chinese
signs temporarily melt into English and back.)

The pages I found did not help, yet, in my particular case, but I think this
might help some of you navigate through documents in unfamiliar languages.
It's no substitute for a fluent translator. Note that some languages support
this instant translation while others only support a scan feature that
requires tapping the screen and then selecting an area to translate which is
much more cumbersome. Yiddish is unsupported and handwriting will not work
either. I'm sure that things like headstones will completely confuse the
program.

Maybe I'm sharing something very obvious, but I had never thought to put the
two things together.

Bob Fitterman
New York City


Re: Seeking Records from Palestine (Ukraine>Palestine>US) #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Shalom Eric,

There are two main repositories for immigration to Palestine. The Central
Zionist Archives [CZA]and the Israel State Archives. The Israel Genealogy
Research Association [IGRA] in working with the CZA on some of the immigration
lists to build databases which will be part of the IGRA collection. The State
Archives have scanned some of the lists through 1933, but they are not indexed
so you have to go thru page by page.

I suggest you follow the IGRA website or facebook for notices of new
databases being added.

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and
Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with
http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl

From: Eric Ellman <eellman@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:28:04 +0000 (UTC)

I am trying to locate information on several family members during their
time in Mandate Palestine. These family members left >from Minkovitz, Ukraine
around 1918-1920 to Jaffa, Palestine. In 1923 one family member left from
Jaffa to the U.S. and in 1925 three others followed suit.

Might there be any records of their immigration in to Palestine >from Minkovitz?
Might there be any records about their stay in Jaffa? Might there be passport
or visa information related to their departure >from Jaffa to the U.S.

I seek Fishel Dick, born in 1906, who left Jaffa on the S.S. Madonna on
Oct. 2, 1923 arriving Providence, RI and then to Brooklyn. I also seek Rachel
Dick, born c. 1877 who departed Jaffa on the S.S. Canada on Nov. 11, 1925
arriving Providence and then to Brooklyn. Rachel had two children with her,
Zusel (b. 1910) and Asron (b. 1912).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking Records from Palestine (Ukraine>Palestine>US) #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Shalom Eric,

There are two main repositories for immigration to Palestine. The Central
Zionist Archives [CZA]and the Israel State Archives. The Israel Genealogy
Research Association [IGRA] in working with the CZA on some of the immigration
lists to build databases which will be part of the IGRA collection. The State
Archives have scanned some of the lists through 1933, but they are not indexed
so you have to go thru page by page.

I suggest you follow the IGRA website or facebook for notices of new
databases being added.

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and
Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with
http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl

From: Eric Ellman <eellman@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:28:04 +0000 (UTC)

I am trying to locate information on several family members during their
time in Mandate Palestine. These family members left >from Minkovitz, Ukraine
around 1918-1920 to Jaffa, Palestine. In 1923 one family member left from
Jaffa to the U.S. and in 1925 three others followed suit.

Might there be any records of their immigration in to Palestine >from Minkovitz?
Might there be any records about their stay in Jaffa? Might there be passport
or visa information related to their departure >from Jaffa to the U.S.

I seek Fishel Dick, born in 1906, who left Jaffa on the S.S. Madonna on
Oct. 2, 1923 arriving Providence, RI and then to Brooklyn. I also seek Rachel
Dick, born c. 1877 who departed Jaffa on the S.S. Canada on Nov. 11, 1925
arriving Providence and then to Brooklyn. Rachel had two children with her,
Zusel (b. 1910) and Asron (b. 1912).


Skalica, Slovakia new KehilaLink #general

Yohanan
 

A new KehilaLink was born and has just been activated - a website about the
Jewish community of Skalica, Slovakia (formerly Szakolcza, Hungary).
You may view it at:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/skalica/skalica_index.html

Comments and corrections are welcome.
If you wish to add any information to the website please contact me to:
loeflery@... .
We are still missing some more family stories and photos.

Thanks to Barbara and Susana for their support!

Yohanan Loeffler
Melbourne Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Skalica, Slovakia new KehilaLink #general

Yohanan
 

A new KehilaLink was born and has just been activated - a website about the
Jewish community of Skalica, Slovakia (formerly Szakolcza, Hungary).
You may view it at:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/skalica/skalica_index.html

Comments and corrections are welcome.
If you wish to add any information to the website please contact me to:
loeflery@... .
We are still missing some more family stories and photos.

Thanks to Barbara and Susana for their support!

Yohanan Loeffler
Melbourne Australia


Lincoln and Jewish Equality #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

I was looking up the web site for the NY Historical Society to send to
Judy as a potential source for her knitting mills question. I discovered
that the Society currently has an exhibit "Lincoln and the Jews."

http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibitions/lincoln-and-the-jews
March 20, 2015 thru June 07, 2015

Marking the 150th anniversary of the end of the Civil War and
Lincoln's assassination, this exhibition focuses on the significant,
and hitherto unknown, relationships and interactions between Abraham
Lincoln and his Jewish friends and associates. At a time when Jews
comprised less than one-half of one percent of the American
population, and with the country rampant with prejudice, Lincoln's
positive and meaningful personal relationships with Jewish individuals
not only arguably changed him but also had an important and lasting
impact on the status of American Jews.

Lincoln stood up to his anti-Semitic generals even as he depended upon
them to win the war, and became an advocate for Jewish equality and
acceptance.

Through never-before displayed original documents, artifacts,
photographs, Lincoln's own writings, and first person accounts
primarily >from the Shapell Manuscript Collection, the exhibition will
trace events in Lincoln's life through the lens of his Jewish
contemporaries, such as Abraham Jonas, who became Lincoln's political
strategist and most valued friend, and Issachar Zacharie, his
enigmatic confidant. Furthermore, the exhibition will explore
Lincoln's profound interest in and connection to the Old Testament,
as exemplified in his wish to see Jerusalem before he died.

People in the NYC area might want to check this out.

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY christine3cats@...


German SIG #Germany Lincoln and Jewish Equality #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

I was looking up the web site for the NY Historical Society to send to
Judy as a potential source for her knitting mills question. I discovered
that the Society currently has an exhibit "Lincoln and the Jews."

http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibitions/lincoln-and-the-jews
March 20, 2015 thru June 07, 2015

Marking the 150th anniversary of the end of the Civil War and
Lincoln's assassination, this exhibition focuses on the significant,
and hitherto unknown, relationships and interactions between Abraham
Lincoln and his Jewish friends and associates. At a time when Jews
comprised less than one-half of one percent of the American
population, and with the country rampant with prejudice, Lincoln's
positive and meaningful personal relationships with Jewish individuals
not only arguably changed him but also had an important and lasting
impact on the status of American Jews.

Lincoln stood up to his anti-Semitic generals even as he depended upon
them to win the war, and became an advocate for Jewish equality and
acceptance.

Through never-before displayed original documents, artifacts,
photographs, Lincoln's own writings, and first person accounts
primarily >from the Shapell Manuscript Collection, the exhibition will
trace events in Lincoln's life through the lens of his Jewish
contemporaries, such as Abraham Jonas, who became Lincoln's political
strategist and most valued friend, and Issachar Zacharie, his
enigmatic confidant. Furthermore, the exhibition will explore
Lincoln's profound interest in and connection to the Old Testament,
as exemplified in his wish to see Jerusalem before he died.

People in the NYC area might want to check this out.

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY christine3cats@...


JGSLA Assisted Research Day with Ancestry.com's Crista Cowan - Sunday, April 12 #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Come join the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles at our next program:

"Members Only Assisted Research Day" with Crista Cowan of Ancestry.com

Sunday, April 12, 2015: 11:30AM - 6:00PM

Los Angeles FamilySearch Library
10742 Santa Monica Blvd.
Los Angeles 90049

Join us for a fun-filled day of making strides in your genealogical
research and learning >from the experts. You'll have access to the LDS
microfilm collection, the full JGSLA library, online subscription
databases (FindMyPast, Ancestry.com, Fold3) mentoring and help from
our volunteers, and free translators for your German, Russian, Polish,
Yiddish and Hebrew documents or headstones. Our special guest, Crista
Cowan, the "barefoot genealogist" >from Ancestry.com will give two
lectures:

1:30PM - 2:45PM: "Getting the Most Out of Ancestry"
3:45PM - 5:00PM: "Strategies for Breaking Through Your Brick Walls"

During the hour break between talks, Crista will be available to help
answer your stickiest Ancestry research questions and there will be
plenty of time after each talk for discussion. Make sure to bring your
notes, trees, photos and brick wall documentation...and we'll do our
best to help you!

Crista Cowan has been doing genealogy since she was a child and is one
of the most popular speakers at the major family history conferences
and workshops. She has been employed at Ancestry.com since 2004 as
the Community Alliance Manager.

You must be a current JGSLA member to attend this program, but you can
join or renew at the door. Appointments for translations will be
taken in advance. Go to our home page for details: www.jgsla.org

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
pweisberger@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSLA Assisted Research Day with Ancestry.com's Crista Cowan - Sunday, April 12 #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Come join the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles at our next program:

"Members Only Assisted Research Day" with Crista Cowan of Ancestry.com

Sunday, April 12, 2015: 11:30AM - 6:00PM

Los Angeles FamilySearch Library
10742 Santa Monica Blvd.
Los Angeles 90049

Join us for a fun-filled day of making strides in your genealogical
research and learning >from the experts. You'll have access to the LDS
microfilm collection, the full JGSLA library, online subscription
databases (FindMyPast, Ancestry.com, Fold3) mentoring and help from
our volunteers, and free translators for your German, Russian, Polish,
Yiddish and Hebrew documents or headstones. Our special guest, Crista
Cowan, the "barefoot genealogist" >from Ancestry.com will give two
lectures:

1:30PM - 2:45PM: "Getting the Most Out of Ancestry"
3:45PM - 5:00PM: "Strategies for Breaking Through Your Brick Walls"

During the hour break between talks, Crista will be available to help
answer your stickiest Ancestry research questions and there will be
plenty of time after each talk for discussion. Make sure to bring your
notes, trees, photos and brick wall documentation...and we'll do our
best to help you!

Crista Cowan has been doing genealogy since she was a child and is one
of the most popular speakers at the major family history conferences
and workshops. She has been employed at Ancestry.com since 2004 as
the Community Alliance Manager.

You must be a current JGSLA member to attend this program, but you can
join or renew at the door. Appointments for translations will be
taken in advance. Go to our home page for details: www.jgsla.org

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
pweisberger@...


JGS of Montreal's next program: Jeffrey Gorney, "Remembered Voices", Monday, April 13, 2015 #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal
in association with the Jewish Public Library
is pleased to announce as our guest speaker:
Jeffrey Gorney
'Remembered Voices'

The meeting will be held on
Monday April 13 2015 at 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Centre
5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings

This talk explores oral history as a vital path to discovering
Jewish roots. Drawing on his recent book 'Mysterious Places: Journey. Memoir.
Quest' Jeffrey Gorney tells how vibrant family recollections of a Romanian shtetl
inspired him. He will discuss his journeys to Romania: first shortly after
the Romanian Revolution then years later as photographer on assignment in
a vastly changed nation.

Jeffrey will relate what it means to actually visit ancestral lands,
Jewish identity before and after World War II and how Romanian pogroms
helped shape the Holocaust.
*Following Jeffrey's talk, there will be a sale and signing of his book*

For all information on our upcoming meetings &
Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops -
call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
514-484-0969
Please visit our website: http://jgs-montreal.org/
and 'friend' us in Facebook

Merle Kastner
Programming
merlek@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Montreal's next program: Jeffrey Gorney, "Remembered Voices", Monday, April 13, 2015 #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal
in association with the Jewish Public Library
is pleased to announce as our guest speaker:
Jeffrey Gorney
'Remembered Voices'

The meeting will be held on
Monday April 13 2015 at 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Centre
5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings

This talk explores oral history as a vital path to discovering
Jewish roots. Drawing on his recent book 'Mysterious Places: Journey. Memoir.
Quest' Jeffrey Gorney tells how vibrant family recollections of a Romanian shtetl
inspired him. He will discuss his journeys to Romania: first shortly after
the Romanian Revolution then years later as photographer on assignment in
a vastly changed nation.

Jeffrey will relate what it means to actually visit ancestral lands,
Jewish identity before and after World War II and how Romanian pogroms
helped shape the Holocaust.
*Following Jeffrey's talk, there will be a sale and signing of his book*

For all information on our upcoming meetings &
Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops -
call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
514-484-0969
Please visit our website: http://jgs-montreal.org/
and 'friend' us in Facebook

Merle Kastner
Programming
merlek@...


(US) Podcast: family name was not changed at Ellis Island #general

Michael Goldstein
 

Listen to IAJGS VP, Ken Bravo, as he is interviewed by
blogtalkradio's, Bernice Bennett, discussing 'Why the
New York Times is Wrong - Using Basic Genealogy Tools and Methods to
Show that Your Family Name Was Not Changed at Ellis Island'.

http://bit.ly/1xQ4vl6

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies
www.iajgs.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) Podcast: family name was not changed at Ellis Island #general

Michael Goldstein
 

Listen to IAJGS VP, Ken Bravo, as he is interviewed by
blogtalkradio's, Bernice Bennett, discussing 'Why the
New York Times is Wrong - Using Basic Genealogy Tools and Methods to
Show that Your Family Name Was Not Changed at Ellis Island'.

http://bit.ly/1xQ4vl6

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies
www.iajgs.org


(Moldova) Virtual Museum of Judaica in Moldova On The Trails of History #bessarabia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A new virtual museum has opened : The Virtual Museum of Judaica in Moldova.
The exhibit is entitled " On the Trails of History". Items that can be
viewed include: digitized photographs ( persons as well as the area),
documents ( including lists of people deported during the Holocaust),
Judaica items, tombstones and Jewish cemeteries, art objects, videos and
more. When viewing an item, double click on it and the information about
the document, photograph etc. will appear. There are three circles on the
website that are portals to "About", Museum" and "Contacts". Click on
Museum to open the photographs, documents, videos etc. To see the virtual
museum go to: http://www.jewishmuseum.md/en/main/menu?alias=museum

The work took place during 2013-2014 and the project team carried out
on-site research in Soroca, Balti, Tiraspol, Rybnita, Orhei, Chisinau and
the villages Rascov and Ciuciuleni. The Museum collaborated with other
Jewish museums, libraries, Holocaust centers, and the Archives of the
Republic of Moldova.

To read more about this and the Jewish Heritage of Moldova Museum which
reopened in December 2014 see the Jewish Heritage article at:
http://www.jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2015/03/30/virtual-jewish-museum-moldov
a/


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia (Moldova) Virtual Museum of Judaica in Moldova On The Trails of History #bessarabia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A new virtual museum has opened : The Virtual Museum of Judaica in Moldova.
The exhibit is entitled " On the Trails of History". Items that can be
viewed include: digitized photographs ( persons as well as the area),
documents ( including lists of people deported during the Holocaust),
Judaica items, tombstones and Jewish cemeteries, art objects, videos and
more. When viewing an item, double click on it and the information about
the document, photograph etc. will appear. There are three circles on the
website that are portals to "About", Museum" and "Contacts". Click on
Museum to open the photographs, documents, videos etc. To see the virtual
museum go to: http://www.jewishmuseum.md/en/main/menu?alias=museum

The work took place during 2013-2014 and the project team carried out
on-site research in Soroca, Balti, Tiraspol, Rybnita, Orhei, Chisinau and
the villages Rascov and Ciuciuleni. The Museum collaborated with other
Jewish museums, libraries, Holocaust centers, and the Archives of the
Republic of Moldova.

To read more about this and the Jewish Heritage of Moldova Museum which
reopened in December 2014 see the Jewish Heritage article at:
http://www.jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2015/03/30/virtual-jewish-museum-moldov
a/


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee