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Re: Novoselytsa #general

Vivian Kahn
 

What period of time did family live there? Have you checked the
JewishGen Hungary Database?

The place you are asking about could be Felsoneresznicze, Kisluckska, or
Ujkemencze, Hungary, all of which are now in Ukraine. There is also
Novoszelicja, Romania, that was formerly Sosujfalu, Hungary.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: Mary <malka50@...>
Is there anyone who has a source or contact or information to do with
Novoselytsya? The spelling may be different today but the family
Buchbinder is of prime interest.
snip.........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Novoselytsa #general

Vivian Kahn
 

What period of time did family live there? Have you checked the
JewishGen Hungary Database?

The place you are asking about could be Felsoneresznicze, Kisluckska, or
Ujkemencze, Hungary, all of which are now in Ukraine. There is also
Novoszelicja, Romania, that was formerly Sosujfalu, Hungary.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: Mary <malka50@...>
Is there anyone who has a source or contact or information to do with
Novoselytsya? The spelling may be different today but the family
Buchbinder is of prime interest.
snip.........


Re: Saul = Solomon? #general

tom
 

Saul and Solomon are completely different biblical names, but because
of the similarity of sound, it's quite understandable that sometimes
sol and saul might get confused. Maybe the person didn't like the
full name solomon as much, or maybe there was another solomon in the
family, such as an in-law, where it's customary to avoid the possible
confusion of duplicated names.

So the short answer is most probably yes.


....... tom klein, toronto


ps. as it happens, there's also a third form of sol, as a common
sephardic female name.

Debbie <debidub@...>
Is Saul (or Sol) a variation or nickname for Solomon?
snip...........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Saul = Solomon? #general

tom
 

Saul and Solomon are completely different biblical names, but because
of the similarity of sound, it's quite understandable that sometimes
sol and saul might get confused. Maybe the person didn't like the
full name solomon as much, or maybe there was another solomon in the
family, such as an in-law, where it's customary to avoid the possible
confusion of duplicated names.

So the short answer is most probably yes.


....... tom klein, toronto


ps. as it happens, there's also a third form of sol, as a common
sephardic female name.

Debbie <debidub@...>
Is Saul (or Sol) a variation or nickname for Solomon?
snip...........


Seeking other descendants of Shmuel Yona and Sarah from Jerusalem #general

Avi Debby
 

I am seeking other descendants and any information about my
great-great-great grandparents, Shmuel Yona and Sarah, who lived in
Jerusalem in the 1870-80's.

I found them listed in the 1875 Montefiore census. According to the census
Shmuel Yona was born in Jerusalem and the family was listed as
members of the Jerusalem Samit-Courland Kollel. His occupation was listed
"iron bender". I believe that Sarah was also born in Jerusalem (other sources).
At the time of the census they had 3 children: Esther, Rivka (age ~5
and my great-great grandmother) and Abraham. There was no last name listed
in the census. Based on later documents,(Rivka's in the US), the
last name is most probably Levy or a slight possibility of being Siegel.

I do not know if Shmuel Yona and Sarah had any other children.

I know Rivka got married in Jerusalem to Aryeh Leib (Louis)Solomon and had
a family. The family (2 adults and 4 children) emigrated to the US in 1902
and I have been able to place all of Rivka's descendants in our family tree.

Searching other databases here in Israel (Helkat Mehokek), I found a burial
listing for Haya Esther daughter of Shmuel Yona, age 18, born in
1872, died in 1890. I am assuming that this is the same Esther listed in the
Montefiore census. I do not know if she was married or if she had any
children.

I haven't found anything on Abraham or as stated above I do not know
if Shmuel Yona and Sarah had any other children.

I also do not know when Shmuel Yona and Sarah died or if either remarried and
had children upon the other's death.

If anyone has any information about Shmuel Yona and Sarah and any other
descendants of Shmuel Yona and Sarah, please contact me.

Thanks,

Avram Brickner
Jerusalem, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking other descendants of Shmuel Yona and Sarah from Jerusalem #general

Avi Debby
 

I am seeking other descendants and any information about my
great-great-great grandparents, Shmuel Yona and Sarah, who lived in
Jerusalem in the 1870-80's.

I found them listed in the 1875 Montefiore census. According to the census
Shmuel Yona was born in Jerusalem and the family was listed as
members of the Jerusalem Samit-Courland Kollel. His occupation was listed
"iron bender". I believe that Sarah was also born in Jerusalem (other sources).
At the time of the census they had 3 children: Esther, Rivka (age ~5
and my great-great grandmother) and Abraham. There was no last name listed
in the census. Based on later documents,(Rivka's in the US), the
last name is most probably Levy or a slight possibility of being Siegel.

I do not know if Shmuel Yona and Sarah had any other children.

I know Rivka got married in Jerusalem to Aryeh Leib (Louis)Solomon and had
a family. The family (2 adults and 4 children) emigrated to the US in 1902
and I have been able to place all of Rivka's descendants in our family tree.

Searching other databases here in Israel (Helkat Mehokek), I found a burial
listing for Haya Esther daughter of Shmuel Yona, age 18, born in
1872, died in 1890. I am assuming that this is the same Esther listed in the
Montefiore census. I do not know if she was married or if she had any
children.

I haven't found anything on Abraham or as stated above I do not know
if Shmuel Yona and Sarah had any other children.

I also do not know when Shmuel Yona and Sarah died or if either remarried and
had children upon the other's death.

If anyone has any information about Shmuel Yona and Sarah and any other
descendants of Shmuel Yona and Sarah, please contact me.

Thanks,

Avram Brickner
Jerusalem, Israel


FISCHER in the family #general

G. C. Kalman
 

In an old scrapbook of my late father, Endre KÁLMÁN (son of Samuel
KÁLMÁN and Dora BLAU) I have found two portraits: one is Minnie FISCHER
(daughter of Moritz FISCHER), the other is her husband, Emil STEINFELD.
They married in NY, 1887.

Before I go on and try to map this branch of relatives, I would like to
clarify what relation our (Hungarian) family has with the FISCHER family
- I have no idea, I have not found any FISCHER so far among my
ancestors. Still, for some reason, my father felt it important to
preserve these portraits in the scrapbook. (Note that this Moritz
FISCHER is certainly not the famous and wealthy Hungarian tradesman.)

Thanks, in advance, for any help.

Gyorgy Kalman

http://www.myheritage.hu/site-195099131/kalman

Researching KALMAN (KOHN), BLAU, FINÁLY

G. C. Kalman
MTA BTK ITI
http://gckalman.honlapepito.hu

alternative address: gckalman@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FISCHER in the family #general

G. C. Kalman
 

In an old scrapbook of my late father, Endre KÁLMÁN (son of Samuel
KÁLMÁN and Dora BLAU) I have found two portraits: one is Minnie FISCHER
(daughter of Moritz FISCHER), the other is her husband, Emil STEINFELD.
They married in NY, 1887.

Before I go on and try to map this branch of relatives, I would like to
clarify what relation our (Hungarian) family has with the FISCHER family
- I have no idea, I have not found any FISCHER so far among my
ancestors. Still, for some reason, my father felt it important to
preserve these portraits in the scrapbook. (Note that this Moritz
FISCHER is certainly not the famous and wealthy Hungarian tradesman.)

Thanks, in advance, for any help.

Gyorgy Kalman

http://www.myheritage.hu/site-195099131/kalman

Researching KALMAN (KOHN), BLAU, FINÁLY

G. C. Kalman
MTA BTK ITI
http://gckalman.honlapepito.hu

alternative address: gckalman@...


Re: Novoselytsa #general

Judite Orensztajn
 

Mary, shalom,
Searching information about this town (my maternal grandmother was born
there), I found, some years ago, this site (in Hebrew) with much
information. It's the site of some families.

http://www.yorav.co.il/Places/novoslitza.htm

All the best,
Judite Orensztajn, Jerusalem
(PASTERNAK/POSTERNAK >from Yaruga, Ukraine; MARGOLIS >from Yaruga,
Ukraine;
CASZ >from Lipcani, Moldova; HEIZERIGHER >from Novaselytsya, Ukraine;
ORENSZTAJN >from Ozarow, Poland; ZAJFMAN >from Opatow, Poland; SZIPER,
from Ozarow (?), Poland; GINSBERG >from Opatow, Poland.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Koorey malka50@...
Is there anyone who has a source or contact or information to do with
Novoselytsya?
snip.............


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Novoselytsa #general

Judite Orensztajn
 

Mary, shalom,
Searching information about this town (my maternal grandmother was born
there), I found, some years ago, this site (in Hebrew) with much
information. It's the site of some families.

http://www.yorav.co.il/Places/novoslitza.htm

All the best,
Judite Orensztajn, Jerusalem
(PASTERNAK/POSTERNAK >from Yaruga, Ukraine; MARGOLIS >from Yaruga,
Ukraine;
CASZ >from Lipcani, Moldova; HEIZERIGHER >from Novaselytsya, Ukraine;
ORENSZTAJN >from Ozarow, Poland; ZAJFMAN >from Opatow, Poland; SZIPER,
from Ozarow (?), Poland; GINSBERG >from Opatow, Poland.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Koorey malka50@...
Is there anyone who has a source or contact or information to do with
Novoselytsya?
snip.............


Researching Carrie EDER, born in Brooklyn NY in 1912. #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

My Carrie Eder was born in Brooklyn NY in 1912. By 1917 they were in Detroit
by 1920 they were in Toledo, Ohio for my grandma's marriage.
In all of those states I have not found her death. What if she died
on the train? Where would they bury her? I have tried Family search,
Ancestry, the Italian database. She was in the 1915 NY state census
nothing else, no birth or death or 1920 census. What would you try next?
Her parents were Aaron and Sarah. I am not a beginner..I can not figure it out.
Thanks Gayle


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching Carrie EDER, born in Brooklyn NY in 1912. #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

My Carrie Eder was born in Brooklyn NY in 1912. By 1917 they were in Detroit
by 1920 they were in Toledo, Ohio for my grandma's marriage.
In all of those states I have not found her death. What if she died
on the train? Where would they bury her? I have tried Family search,
Ancestry, the Italian database. She was in the 1915 NY state census
nothing else, no birth or death or 1920 census. What would you try next?
Her parents were Aaron and Sarah. I am not a beginner..I can not figure it out.
Thanks Gayle


Four ViewMate Translation Requests - Hungarian #hungary

Ross, Phil
 

I've posted four pages (one typed and three handwritten) >from late 1912, wh=
ich I believe relates to my grand uncle Isaak's attempt to marry his soon-t=
o-be wife Etel. Each page is a separate ViewMate submission, which can be =
found at the following links:=20

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39262 (page 1)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39263 (page 2)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39264 (page 3)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39265 (page 4)

I would greatly appreciate even partial translations.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or
otherwise privately to me via the email address below.

Thank you so very much for any and all responses,

Philip Lane Ross
San Francisco, CA
plross@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary Four ViewMate Translation Requests - Hungarian #hungary

Ross, Phil
 

I've posted four pages (one typed and three handwritten) >from late 1912, wh=
ich I believe relates to my grand uncle Isaak's attempt to marry his soon-t=
o-be wife Etel. Each page is a separate ViewMate submission, which can be =
found at the following links:=20

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39262 (page 1)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39263 (page 2)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39264 (page 3)
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM39265 (page 4)

I would greatly appreciate even partial translations.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or
otherwise privately to me via the email address below.

Thank you so very much for any and all responses,

Philip Lane Ross
San Francisco, CA
plross@...


BECK family and Agarev, Somogy #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Hello Friends -

I have decided to dig a little more for one of my ancestors whom I have neglected, and it takes me to the village of Agarev in Somogy. My GGGgrandmother, Julia/Fanni BECK, was married to Ignatz GLOCKNER. Ignatz was >from Kalmancsa (also in Somogy), and the couple's children and grandchildren were all born in that vicinity. Homok Szent-Gyorgy, Szulok, etc. When I finally found the death record for Julia BECK GLOCKNER, it mentioned her place of birth as Agarev, and her father's name as Sandor BECK. Julia was born around 1834.

When I do an internet search for Agarev, I get virtually nothing, except for the name linked with Haromfa for some tourist sites. I did find Haromfa in Google Maps, though I don't know if this is the same as Agarev or not.

Does anyone know anything about this little village or where I could learn about its (particularly Jewish) history? If any of you have BECK ancestors >from Somogy, I would also love to hear >from you, although my own knowledge is limited to just Julia and her father Sandor >from the early 1800's.

Many thanks, as always.

Michele Sankar
Ontario

Searching:

JEWISH:
Nograd and "Slovakia" - SEIDNER, FLEISSIG, WINTER, WIESNER/WIZNER, SPITZ, HOLLANDER
Budapest - SEIDNER, WINTER, GLOCKNER (= GABOR, GELLERI, GELLERT, GONDA)
Baja - WEINBERGER, STEIN
Paks - FREUND
Somogy - BECK, GLOCKNER, HIRSCHLER
Southern Hungary, Budapest - LOWINGER/LENARD

NON-JEWISH:
OZSGYANYI, MIKULA, DANYI, CSANYI, SAGI, KOVATS, ARRIGONI, ROVID, ARPAS, TOROK, VIBOK, BAKA


Hungary SIG #Hungary BECK family and Agarev, Somogy #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Hello Friends -

I have decided to dig a little more for one of my ancestors whom I have neglected, and it takes me to the village of Agarev in Somogy. My GGGgrandmother, Julia/Fanni BECK, was married to Ignatz GLOCKNER. Ignatz was >from Kalmancsa (also in Somogy), and the couple's children and grandchildren were all born in that vicinity. Homok Szent-Gyorgy, Szulok, etc. When I finally found the death record for Julia BECK GLOCKNER, it mentioned her place of birth as Agarev, and her father's name as Sandor BECK. Julia was born around 1834.

When I do an internet search for Agarev, I get virtually nothing, except for the name linked with Haromfa for some tourist sites. I did find Haromfa in Google Maps, though I don't know if this is the same as Agarev or not.

Does anyone know anything about this little village or where I could learn about its (particularly Jewish) history? If any of you have BECK ancestors >from Somogy, I would also love to hear >from you, although my own knowledge is limited to just Julia and her father Sandor >from the early 1800's.

Many thanks, as always.

Michele Sankar
Ontario

Searching:

JEWISH:
Nograd and "Slovakia" - SEIDNER, FLEISSIG, WINTER, WIESNER/WIZNER, SPITZ, HOLLANDER
Budapest - SEIDNER, WINTER, GLOCKNER (= GABOR, GELLERI, GELLERT, GONDA)
Baja - WEINBERGER, STEIN
Paks - FREUND
Somogy - BECK, GLOCKNER, HIRSCHLER
Southern Hungary, Budapest - LOWINGER/LENARD

NON-JEWISH:
OZSGYANYI, MIKULA, DANYI, CSANYI, SAGI, KOVATS, ARRIGONI, ROVID, ARPAS, TOROK, VIBOK, BAKA


FISCHER in the family #hungary

G. C. Kalman
 

In an old scrapbook of my late father, Endre KÃLMÃN (son of Samuel
KÃLMÃN and Dora BLAU) I have found two portraits: one is Minnie FISCHER
(daughter of Moritz FISCHER), the other is her husband, Emil STEINFELD.
They married in NY, 1887.

Before I go on and try to map this branch of relatives, I would like to
clarify what relation our (Hungarian) family has with the FISCHER family
- I have no idea, I have not found any FISCHER so far among my
ancestors. Still, for some reason, my father felt it important to
preserve these portraits in the scrapbook. (Note that this Moritz
FISCHER is certainly not the famous and wealthy Hungarian tradesman.)

Thanks, in advance, for any help.

Gyorgy Kalman

http://www.myheritage.hu/site-195099131/kalman

Researching KALMAN (KOHN), BLAU, FINÃLY


Hungary SIG #Hungary FISCHER in the family #hungary

G. C. Kalman
 

In an old scrapbook of my late father, Endre KÃLMÃN (son of Samuel
KÃLMÃN and Dora BLAU) I have found two portraits: one is Minnie FISCHER
(daughter of Moritz FISCHER), the other is her husband, Emil STEINFELD.
They married in NY, 1887.

Before I go on and try to map this branch of relatives, I would like to
clarify what relation our (Hungarian) family has with the FISCHER family
- I have no idea, I have not found any FISCHER so far among my
ancestors. Still, for some reason, my father felt it important to
preserve these portraits in the scrapbook. (Note that this Moritz
FISCHER is certainly not the famous and wealthy Hungarian tradesman.)

Thanks, in advance, for any help.

Gyorgy Kalman

http://www.myheritage.hu/site-195099131/kalman

Researching KALMAN (KOHN), BLAU, FINÃLY


Re: Registration town for Chmelov in FS Online "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910" #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi,

Thanks.

It's in former Saros. I had already found the Hungarian name, which
gets zero hits in the FS Catalog. The person whose birth rec. I am
looking for later lived in nearby Presov, and he's the first >from the
family born here in 1904 - the previous in faraway Mezokeresztes in
Borsod, so while I am sure I can get 1869 info in one of the Zsido
sub-directories in the Saros Census, it's not relevant.

- Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles
edelman@...

On 04/26/2015 03:58 AM, Todd Michael Edelman edelman@... wrote:
Hi,

For the village or small town of Chmelov, about 2/3 of the way >from
Presov to Giraltovce, I cant find if and where the birth etc. records
are in "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books...." in Family Search.
Any ideasa I found lots of things in it for other small towns, e.g.
Hanusovce is in side the Giraltovce boog, but may just be missing
something this time. There are only Church records >from Chmelov in the
Catalog of films.

Thanks,

Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles



Moderator: Have you checked using the Hungarian name? The place
you're seeking is
probably Komloskeresztes in Szepes megye.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Registration town for Chmelov in FS Online "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910" #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi,

Thanks.

It's in former Saros. I had already found the Hungarian name, which
gets zero hits in the FS Catalog. The person whose birth rec. I am
looking for later lived in nearby Presov, and he's the first >from the
family born here in 1904 - the previous in faraway Mezokeresztes in
Borsod, so while I am sure I can get 1869 info in one of the Zsido
sub-directories in the Saros Census, it's not relevant.

- Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles
edelman@...

On 04/26/2015 03:58 AM, Todd Michael Edelman edelman@... wrote:
Hi,

For the village or small town of Chmelov, about 2/3 of the way >from
Presov to Giraltovce, I cant find if and where the birth etc. records
are in "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books...." in Family Search.
Any ideasa I found lots of things in it for other small towns, e.g.
Hanusovce is in side the Giraltovce boog, but may just be missing
something this time. There are only Church records >from Chmelov in the
Catalog of films.

Thanks,

Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles



Moderator: Have you checked using the Hungarian name? The place
you're seeking is
probably Komloskeresztes in Szepes megye.