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Hager rabbis in Golders Green #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for help in updating this family and how to make contact with them.

R. Issachar DovBerish Hager, 1877-1966, elder son, succeeded his
father as ABD Storozhinets, married his cousin, Sheina Rachel of
Peczenizyn (south of Stansilawow). He found refuge in Vienna during
WWI and moved to London in 1938 where he established the first
Chassidic shtiebel in Golders Green which became known as the Beit
Medrash Yissachar Dov (Hager's) which remains a Union-unaffiliated
synagogue.

Father of -
1. R. Herschel (Zvi) Hager, 1908-1972, succeeded his father as ABD of
the Hager's shtiebel and continued to operate as a diamond merchant
in Golders Green whose sons are R. Gershon Hager, born in 1945,
succeeded his father as ABD in 1972 and R. Jacob (Yankel) Hager, born
in 1949.
2. R. Menachem Mendel Hager, born in 1910.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hager rabbis in Golders Green #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for help in updating this family and how to make contact with them.

R. Issachar DovBerish Hager, 1877-1966, elder son, succeeded his
father as ABD Storozhinets, married his cousin, Sheina Rachel of
Peczenizyn (south of Stansilawow). He found refuge in Vienna during
WWI and moved to London in 1938 where he established the first
Chassidic shtiebel in Golders Green which became known as the Beit
Medrash Yissachar Dov (Hager's) which remains a Union-unaffiliated
synagogue.

Father of -
1. R. Herschel (Zvi) Hager, 1908-1972, succeeded his father as ABD of
the Hager's shtiebel and continued to operate as a diamond merchant
in Golders Green whose sons are R. Gershon Hager, born in 1945,
succeeded his father as ABD in 1972 and R. Jacob (Yankel) Hager, born
in 1949.
2. R. Menachem Mendel Hager, born in 1910.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please
runaway marriage 1900-1920 mid-Atlantic states #general

Natalie & Ernie Hartz
 

Steve Pickholtz asked where a person with NJ and PA ties might have gone to
be married 1900-1920.

In 1910, my maternal grandparents went to Providence RI to be married (civil
ceremony) because according to NY law they were too closely related to be
married in NY. Grandma always told me they were cousins, but when my uncle
started the family tree he discovered that Grandpa was her half uncle, we
think. It appears as if Grandma's mother was Grandpa's half sister. Hard to
grasp, I know.

Why Providence RI? Who knows? Maybe it was the closest and easiest state to
get to by train. I'm sure they were also married in a religious ceremony by
her father, who was licensed to perform marriages in NY (he also performed
my parent's religious ceremony), but the marriage record for my grandparents
is definitely listed in Providence.

Natalie Hartz
East Windsor, NJ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen runaway marriage 1900-1920 mid-Atlantic states #general

Natalie & Ernie Hartz
 

Steve Pickholtz asked where a person with NJ and PA ties might have gone to
be married 1900-1920.

In 1910, my maternal grandparents went to Providence RI to be married (civil
ceremony) because according to NY law they were too closely related to be
married in NY. Grandma always told me they were cousins, but when my uncle
started the family tree he discovered that Grandpa was her half uncle, we
think. It appears as if Grandma's mother was Grandpa's half sister. Hard to
grasp, I know.

Why Providence RI? Who knows? Maybe it was the closest and easiest state to
get to by train. I'm sure they were also married in a religious ceremony by
her father, who was licensed to perform marriages in NY (he also performed
my parent's religious ceremony), but the marriage record for my grandparents
is definitely listed in Providence.

Natalie Hartz
East Windsor, NJ
SACHS/SACKS, FUTERAN, GEFFEN, MILLER & KARBUZ families in South Africa #general

Daniel Gleek
 

Dear Genners,

Please only reply if you specifically have these specific names on
your tree and can help.

Mr Alex SACHS/SACKS married Charlotte in Paarl, South Africa in 1920s.
They went on to have at least 2 sons, the elder called Jeffrey SACHS/SACKS.

Their wedding photo shows relatives Phillip FUTERAN and his wife Annie Jean
GEFFEN (she was >from London).

They may have had sons Gerald and Barry FUTERAN; one may have had a son
Martin FUTERAN.

The family owned a haberdashery/textile business in Cape Town which is now a
theatre and museum.

The SACHS/SACKS and FUTERAN families also link to a MILLER family, which
settled in Paarl, South Africa, in the early 1900s. They had 3 girls and a boy.
A Jane married a MILLER (forename Lucky?) and had Leon and Hilda (1918-98).
Hilda MILLER married Joseph FAINSTEIN. Their daughter was Anse.

If Annie Jean GEFFEN and Mrs Jane MILLER were sisters then a third may have
been..
Rochel Etel IOFE/JAFFE/YOFFE who wed Mosha-Leib KARBUZ in Kupiskis, before
going to SA.

If you have these surnames on your tree and can help, please email me.
Thank you,
Daniel GLEEK in London
daniel@lobbus.co.uk
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SACHS/SACKS, FUTERAN, GEFFEN, MILLER & KARBUZ families in South Africa #general

Daniel Gleek
 

Dear Genners,

Please only reply if you specifically have these specific names on
your tree and can help.

Mr Alex SACHS/SACKS married Charlotte in Paarl, South Africa in 1920s.
They went on to have at least 2 sons, the elder called Jeffrey SACHS/SACKS.

Their wedding photo shows relatives Phillip FUTERAN and his wife Annie Jean
GEFFEN (she was >from London).

They may have had sons Gerald and Barry FUTERAN; one may have had a son
Martin FUTERAN.

The family owned a haberdashery/textile business in Cape Town which is now a
theatre and museum.

The SACHS/SACKS and FUTERAN families also link to a MILLER family, which
settled in Paarl, South Africa, in the early 1900s. They had 3 girls and a boy.
A Jane married a MILLER (forename Lucky?) and had Leon and Hilda (1918-98).
Hilda MILLER married Joseph FAINSTEIN. Their daughter was Anse.

If Annie Jean GEFFEN and Mrs Jane MILLER were sisters then a third may have
been..
Rochel Etel IOFE/JAFFE/YOFFE who wed Mosha-Leib KARBUZ in Kupiskis, before
going to SA.

If you have these surnames on your tree and can help, please email me.
Thank you,
Daniel GLEEK in London
daniel@lobbus.co.uk
VOLOVICH, FAKTOR & HURWITZ in South Africa #general

Daniel Gleek
 

Dear Genners,

A cousin is searching for information on Janie VOLOVICH (born 1900-1910).
Born in Lithuania, she came briefly to the UK and emigrated to South Africa
in 1916.
There she wed Israel SCHOLNICK (a cousin?) in Cape Town.
Her descendants went on to marry FAKTORs and HURWITZs.
The connection may be through a family called IOFE/YOFFE/JAFFE.

If you have these surnames on your tree and can help, please email me.
Thank you,
Daniel GLEEK in London
daniel@lobbus.co.uk
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VOLOVICH, FAKTOR & HURWITZ in South Africa #general

Daniel Gleek
 

Dear Genners,

A cousin is searching for information on Janie VOLOVICH (born 1900-1910).
Born in Lithuania, she came briefly to the UK and emigrated to South Africa
in 1916.
There she wed Israel SCHOLNICK (a cousin?) in Cape Town.
Her descendants went on to marry FAKTORs and HURWITZs.
The connection may be through a family called IOFE/YOFFE/JAFFE.

If you have these surnames on your tree and can help, please email me.
Thank you,
Daniel GLEEK in London
daniel@lobbus.co.uk
Additions to IGRA's Databases #general

Garri Regev
 

IGRA released the first installment of information regarding the
Illegal Immigration period to Israel. The information comes >from three
sources:

Atlit Database Index - In cooperation with "Bintivey Ha'apala"
Clandestine Jewish Immigration Information and Research Center in
Memory of Admiral Mordechai (Moka) Limon we are posting a partial
index of their database. Their databases span >from the late 1930's
through a few years after the recognition of the State of Israel.

Deportation Lists 1939 - This database is composed of "duplicate"
lists found in a file of the British Police in the Israel State
Archives. It contains lists of people who were on 13 ships that were
captured in 1939. The database includes the names of 6,282.

The Illegal Immigrants 1939 -1948 - The lists come >from a variety of
places - most are Jewish Agency offices, some elsewhere. All are
currently in the Central Zionist Archives. Some lists are in English
and some lists are in Hebrew, therefore there will be two databases
depending on the language of the original documents. This will be an
ongoing project over many years, with updates of additional names to
the database.

Please understand that each document has different kinds of
information available. We are working to quickly fix a problem where
the name of the Ship is not showing on the result page.

With these additions there are now over 440,000 lines of data
available!

http://genealogy.org.il/AID/index.php

Garri Regev
President, IGRA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Additions to IGRA's Databases #general

Garri Regev
 

IGRA released the first installment of information regarding the
Illegal Immigration period to Israel. The information comes >from three
sources:

Atlit Database Index - In cooperation with "Bintivey Ha'apala"
Clandestine Jewish Immigration Information and Research Center in
Memory of Admiral Mordechai (Moka) Limon we are posting a partial
index of their database. Their databases span >from the late 1930's
through a few years after the recognition of the State of Israel.

Deportation Lists 1939 - This database is composed of "duplicate"
lists found in a file of the British Police in the Israel State
Archives. It contains lists of people who were on 13 ships that were
captured in 1939. The database includes the names of 6,282.

The Illegal Immigrants 1939 -1948 - The lists come >from a variety of
places - most are Jewish Agency offices, some elsewhere. All are
currently in the Central Zionist Archives. Some lists are in English
and some lists are in Hebrew, therefore there will be two databases
depending on the language of the original documents. This will be an
ongoing project over many years, with updates of additional names to
the database.

Please understand that each document has different kinds of
information available. We are working to quickly fix a problem where
the name of the Ship is not showing on the result page.

With these additions there are now over 440,000 lines of data
available!

http://genealogy.org.il/AID/index.php

Garri Regev
President, IGRA
Mariage Certificate in Moscow region #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way to get a marriage certificate for someone in the
Naro-Fomisk area (Moscow region, Russia) who may have married
around 1984-85? Or is this information private?

Thank you.

Marie Lubman
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mariage Certificate in Moscow region #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way to get a marriage certificate for someone in the
Naro-Fomisk area (Moscow region, Russia) who may have married
around 1984-85? Or is this information private?

Thank you.

Marie Lubman
Descendants of Ulanow #galicia

Marla Raucher Osborn <osborn@...>
 

Calling all descendants of Ulanow in southeast Poland, region of
Galician Nisko!

A 400th birthday is coming up in 2016 and your family stories, photos,
ephemera, records, and town memorabilia are wanted! On April 7, 1616
the town of Ulanow was founded and efforts are underway to produce a
book commemorating town history and families. Friend and local
resident Janusz Dabek - President of the Foundation HERITAGE - is
interested in memories of your ancestors: where they lived, what they
were doing, what their lives were like before, during, and after WW2.
Accepted submissions will be included in the book.

Electronic scans of contributions should be sent to: cypel2000@wp.pl

Warm regards,

Marla Raucher Osborn
Warsaw, Poland
osborn@nuthatch.org

Researching surnames:
HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (Galicia, today Ukraine);
KURZROCK >from Kozova (Galicia, today Ukraine); TEICHMAN >from
Chodorow (Galicia, today Ukraine); SILBER, BAUMANN, and SCHARF
from Ulanow and Sokolow Malopolska (Galicia, Poland); KESTENBAUM
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER >from Przemysl (Galicia, Poland); BLECHER
from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova); BRUNSHTEIN, MOGALNIK, SARFAS,
and FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine)
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Descendants of Ulanow #galicia

Marla Raucher Osborn <osborn@...>
 

Calling all descendants of Ulanow in southeast Poland, region of
Galician Nisko!

A 400th birthday is coming up in 2016 and your family stories, photos,
ephemera, records, and town memorabilia are wanted! On April 7, 1616
the town of Ulanow was founded and efforts are underway to produce a
book commemorating town history and families. Friend and local
resident Janusz Dabek - President of the Foundation HERITAGE - is
interested in memories of your ancestors: where they lived, what they
were doing, what their lives were like before, during, and after WW2.
Accepted submissions will be included in the book.

Electronic scans of contributions should be sent to: cypel2000@wp.pl

Warm regards,

Marla Raucher Osborn
Warsaw, Poland
osborn@nuthatch.org

Researching surnames:
HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (Galicia, today Ukraine);
KURZROCK >from Kozova (Galicia, today Ukraine); TEICHMAN >from
Chodorow (Galicia, today Ukraine); SILBER, BAUMANN, and SCHARF
from Ulanow and Sokolow Malopolska (Galicia, Poland); KESTENBAUM
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER >from Przemysl (Galicia, Poland); BLECHER
from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova); BRUNSHTEIN, MOGALNIK, SARFAS,
and FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine)
JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County May 3 Meeting on You Found the Records--Now What? #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County
(JGSCV) will hold a general meeting, co-sponsored with Temple Adat Elohim,
on Sunday, May 3, 2015 1:30-3:30 PM at Temple Adat Elohim 2420 E. Hillcrest
Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA.

The program: You Found the Records- Now What? This is important for people
who do genealogy as not all records are accurate. for example I have 7
different birth dates spanning 15 years for my maternal grandfather-which
one is correct and why? JGSCV member Marion Werle will be giving the
presentation.

This interactive presentation will focus on how to analyze the records you
find and how to make the case to prove identities, ages, residence and other
facts about your ancestors. Marion will discuss how to analyze record types
(original, derivative and authored), record information (primary, secondary
and indeterminate) and evidence (direct, indirect and negative), and how to
weight the reliability of the documents you find based on these criteria.
Together we will analyze examples of actual records and show how to ask the
right questions to help us create sound genealogical research.

Speaker: Marion Werle began her family history research over 20 years ago,
researching family >from Lithuania, Latvia and Belarus, who settled in both
the US and Canada. She has been on the boards of directors of JGSCV and
JGSLA, and is a past president of the Latvia SIG. After making the same
beginner's mistakes that we all do, she is now focused on applying accepted
genealogical research standards to her research. She has master's degrees in
both European History and Library Science >from UCLA.

Schmoozing Corner:
Founding member Werner Frank will be facilitating the schmoozing corner
starting at 1:10PM. The Schmoozing Corner is available if you would like
individual insights for your genealogical pursuits >from an experienced JGSCV
member 20 minutes before each meeting.

5-minute Genealogical Hint:
What You Find in Voter Registration Records-Jan Meisels Allen

Traveling Library
This will be our second month of experimenting with bringing a limited
number of our traveling library books-Category A only. The traveling library
comes to each of our meetings and is available starting 30 minutes before
the beginning of the meeting. A list of our permanent and traveling library
is included on our website: www.jgscv.org look under library.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County is
dedicated to sharing genealogical information, techniques and research tools
with anyone interested in Jewish genealogy and family history. There is no
charge to attend the meeting. Anyone may join JGSCV. Dues are $25 for a
single and $30 for a family defined as two people living in the same
household. Annual dues paid now are good through December 2015. Forms are
available at the meeting, and on the JGSCV website-under Membership .

For more information, including directions, please see the JGSCV website:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County May 3 Meeting on You Found the Records--Now What? #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County
(JGSCV) will hold a general meeting, co-sponsored with Temple Adat Elohim,
on Sunday, May 3, 2015 1:30-3:30 PM at Temple Adat Elohim 2420 E. Hillcrest
Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA.

The program: You Found the Records- Now What? This is important for people
who do genealogy as not all records are accurate. for example I have 7
different birth dates spanning 15 years for my maternal grandfather-which
one is correct and why? JGSCV member Marion Werle will be giving the
presentation.

This interactive presentation will focus on how to analyze the records you
find and how to make the case to prove identities, ages, residence and other
facts about your ancestors. Marion will discuss how to analyze record types
(original, derivative and authored), record information (primary, secondary
and indeterminate) and evidence (direct, indirect and negative), and how to
weight the reliability of the documents you find based on these criteria.
Together we will analyze examples of actual records and show how to ask the
right questions to help us create sound genealogical research.

Speaker: Marion Werle began her family history research over 20 years ago,
researching family >from Lithuania, Latvia and Belarus, who settled in both
the US and Canada. She has been on the boards of directors of JGSCV and
JGSLA, and is a past president of the Latvia SIG. After making the same
beginner's mistakes that we all do, she is now focused on applying accepted
genealogical research standards to her research. She has master's degrees in
both European History and Library Science >from UCLA.

Schmoozing Corner:
Founding member Werner Frank will be facilitating the schmoozing corner
starting at 1:10PM. The Schmoozing Corner is available if you would like
individual insights for your genealogical pursuits >from an experienced JGSCV
member 20 minutes before each meeting.

5-minute Genealogical Hint:
What You Find in Voter Registration Records-Jan Meisels Allen

Traveling Library
This will be our second month of experimenting with bringing a limited
number of our traveling library books-Category A only. The traveling library
comes to each of our meetings and is available starting 30 minutes before
the beginning of the meeting. A list of our permanent and traveling library
is included on our website: www.jgscv.org look under library.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County is
dedicated to sharing genealogical information, techniques and research tools
with anyone interested in Jewish genealogy and family history. There is no
charge to attend the meeting. Anyone may join JGSCV. Dues are $25 for a
single and $30 for a family defined as two people living in the same
household. Annual dues paid now are good through December 2015. Forms are
available at the meeting, and on the JGSCV website-under Membership .

For more information, including directions, please see the JGSCV website:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV
BECK family and Agarev, Somogy #hungary

mhollosi@...
 

Agarev (Agare'v) was a small village during 17-19th century. In 1870 its =
population was 1406 known for its Slovenian ethnicity. In 1890 it merged =
with Ha'romfa and was known as Ha'romfa-Agare'v until 1907.
Afterwards only the name Ha'romfa was used. =
(http://www.rinyamente.hu/page18.html)

Jewish population data for Ha'romfa: 1910: 25 out of 1957, 1940: 1 out =
of 1642. (http://lexikon.katolikus.hu/H/H%C3%A1romfa.html)

The villages Homokszentgyo:rgy, Ka'lma'ncsa and Szulok are within 50 km.

Mike Hollosi
Toronto,Canada
Hungary SIG #Hungary BECK family and Agarev, Somogy #hungary

mhollosi@...
 

Agarev (Agare'v) was a small village during 17-19th century. In 1870 its =
population was 1406 known for its Slovenian ethnicity. In 1890 it merged =
with Ha'romfa and was known as Ha'romfa-Agare'v until 1907.
Afterwards only the name Ha'romfa was used. =
(http://www.rinyamente.hu/page18.html)

Jewish population data for Ha'romfa: 1910: 25 out of 1957, 1940: 1 out =
of 1642. (http://lexikon.katolikus.hu/H/H%C3%A1romfa.html)

The villages Homokszentgyo:rgy, Ka'lma'ncsa and Szulok are within 50 km.

Mike Hollosi
Toronto,Canada
Re: Registration town for Chmelov in FS Online "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910" #hungary

edelman@...
 

Thanks, that makes sense. Unfortunately the period I am looking for is
not (yet) online (only to 9.1895).

- Todd

On 04/27/2015 10:55 PM, HungarianRoots wrote:
Hi Todd,

According to the 1892 gazetteer Komloskeresztes/Cmelov is covered in
the Tapolyhanusfalu/Hanusovce Jewish registers.

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide


Hungarian Roots
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Michael Edelman
edelman@greenidea.eu" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Registration town for Chmelov in FS Online
"Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910"


Hi,

Thanks.

It's in former Saros. I had already found the Hungarian name, which
gets zero hits in the FS Catalog. The person whose birth rec. I am
looking for later lived in nearby Presov, and he's the first >from the
family born here in 1904 - the previous in faraway Mezokeresztes in
Borsod, so while I am sure I can get 1869 info in one of the Zsido
sub-directories in the Saros Census, it's not relevant.

- Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles
edelman@greenidea.eu



On 04/26/2015 03:58 AM, Todd Michael Edelman edelman@greenidea.eu wrote:
Hi,

For the village or small town of Chmelov, about 2/3 of the way >from
Presov to Giraltovce, I cant find if and where the birth etc.
records are in "Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books...." in Family
Search. Any ideasa I found lots of things in it for other small
towns, e.g. Hanusovce is in side the Giraltovce boog, but may just
be missing something this time. There are only Church records >from
Chmelov in the Catalog of films.

Thanks,

Todd Edelman
near Los Angeles



Moderator: Have you checked using the Hungarian name? The place
you're seeking is
probably Komloskeresztes in Szepes megye.
Re: BECK family and Agarev, Somogy #hungary

tom
 

bogardi.com has 2 different gazetteers of "greater hungary", the
1882, and the 1913.

agare'v does not appear in the 1913, but on the somogy megye page, it
is listed as ha'romfa-agare'v, in the nagy-ata'di district. going
back to the 1913 gazetteer, ha'romfa occurs exactly once, in the
nagy-ata'di district of somogy, so it's probably the place that
you're looking for, which was merged into the larger place.
bogardi.com shows it as being in the southwest of hungary.

the jewishgen gazetteer does not show haromfa as having a jewish
community, and the nearest ones would be babocsa just to the south
(127 jews in 1880), and nagyatad just north (371 jews).


...... tom klein, toronto

sankosy5@rogers.com wrote:

I have decided to dig a little more for one of my ancestors whom I
have neglected, and it takes me to the village of Agarev in Somogy.
My GGGgrandmother, Julia/Fanni BECK, was married to Ignatz GLOCKNER.
Ignatz was >from Kalmancsa (also in Somogy), and the couple's
children and grandchildren were all born in that vicinity. Homok
Szent-Gyorgy, Szulok, etc. When I finally found the death record
for Julia BECK GLOCKNER, it mentioned her place of birth as Agarev,
and her father's name as Sandor BECK. Julia was born around 1834.

When I do an internet search for Agarev, I get virtually nothing,
except for the name linked with Haromfa for some tourist sites. I
did find Haromfa in Google Maps, though I don't know if this is the
same as Agarev or not.
90861 - 90880 of 657938