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ROZIN (Rosen) from Radwanitz & Siemiatycze, Belarus #general

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,

I am researching my son-in-law's family. His maternal great-grandmother
was Sarah ROZIN (Rosen in the USA) of either Radwanitz or Siemiatycze,
Belarus (May 06, 1888 - August 8, 1978). She married Phillip (Feivel)
KALER (Keller in the USA) >from Ros, Belarus. The marriage is recorded as
having taken place in Brest, Belarus in 1910. Sarah and Phillip settled
in Providence, RI around 1915, where their 4 children were born.

Sarah had 3 siblings:
Sophie, who married a SOBOL in Belarus
Edith married (1933) Max PANKEN in the Bronx
Henry married Frances BLOOM (1935) in the Bronx.

The ROSEN parents were Abraham Issac (c1858 - c1910 in Belarus) and
Zlate (c1860 - c1950 in NJ).
Does anyone know of these families or the extended Keller - Rosen clan?

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@totalben.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROZIN (Rosen) from Radwanitz & Siemiatycze, Belarus #general

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,

I am researching my son-in-law's family. His maternal great-grandmother
was Sarah ROZIN (Rosen in the USA) of either Radwanitz or Siemiatycze,
Belarus (May 06, 1888 - August 8, 1978). She married Phillip (Feivel)
KALER (Keller in the USA) >from Ros, Belarus. The marriage is recorded as
having taken place in Brest, Belarus in 1910. Sarah and Phillip settled
in Providence, RI around 1915, where their 4 children were born.

Sarah had 3 siblings:
Sophie, who married a SOBOL in Belarus
Edith married (1933) Max PANKEN in the Bronx
Henry married Frances BLOOM (1935) in the Bronx.

The ROSEN parents were Abraham Issac (c1858 - c1910 in Belarus) and
Zlate (c1860 - c1950 in NJ).
Does anyone know of these families or the extended Keller - Rosen clan?

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@totalben.com


Re: The name Paltiel #general

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

It's really hard to make any conclusions >from given names. Someone named David
isn't necessarily descended >from the biblical king of Israel, nor are there
any "reserved" given names as far as I know. (observant Jews may hesitate to
give their children certain biblical names, like Korach or Izabel, because of
the connotations those names carry, but for no other reason.) Some surnames
were derived >from "Kohen" or "Levi" (or "Katz" or "Segal", etc., which are
acronyms used for Kohanim and Leviim), but even so, there is no rule
guaranteeing that it's anything more than a name. I know of COHENs who are
Levites, and others who are neither, despite their surname. (EPSTEIN is a name
commonly associated with Levites, for example, but at least one EPSTEIN whom I
have met, says that his family adopted the name after immigrating, because they
felt it sounded "more American".)

Given names are more usually "in honour" of an ancestor, so a single,
distinguished "Schneur" or "Yerachmiel" could give rise to a whole bunch of
similarly-named young ones.

For an overview of historical Paltiels, you can look up
<http://jewishencyclopedia.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&keywords=paltiel>, which
has the text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia online.

As for being named after the ship, on the face of it, this seems unlikely. I
couldn't find references online to any ship named Paltiel. (not a definitive
result, but certainly a good indication, since so many other ships *are* to be
found online.) There are, however, plenty of ships' names containing "Philip"
or "Phillip", so I would guess that the story was originally that he was named
Phillip after the ship they arrived on (and Paltiel being a nice biblical
sound-alike for Phillip, showing a definite knowledge of the bible, which was
probably a result of the yeshiva connection), and it got a little mixed up in
the retelling. Or at least that's one possibility.

....... tom klein, Toronto

"Roberta Sheps" <rsheps@ntlworld.com> wrote:
My maternal grand-father's family was not known (at least in my mother's
generation) for being particularly religious, despite being Kohanim.
Indeed, the only time I recollect seeing either of my maternal grandparents
in shul was for my wedding. However, I have just come across a small fact
that suggests that my maternal great-grandfather's family may have been more
devout that I thought.

My grandfather had a brother named, in English, Phillip. The family came
from Talno, which was the site of an important Yeshiva. An account by a
woman who I always thought was embroidering the story, said that the family
were among the "highest of rabbis". Some years ago my mother told me that
she thought Phillip had been named Paltiel, after the ship on which the
family travelled to Canada. However, I have just learned that Paltiel is a
name that occurs in Numbers. And someone who knows a lot more about ships
than I do, said that he couldn't think of any ship called "The Paltiel".

My questions are, was Paltiel a name that was reserved to Kohanim, and if
not, how common a name was it?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Paltiel #general

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

It's really hard to make any conclusions >from given names. Someone named David
isn't necessarily descended >from the biblical king of Israel, nor are there
any "reserved" given names as far as I know. (observant Jews may hesitate to
give their children certain biblical names, like Korach or Izabel, because of
the connotations those names carry, but for no other reason.) Some surnames
were derived >from "Kohen" or "Levi" (or "Katz" or "Segal", etc., which are
acronyms used for Kohanim and Leviim), but even so, there is no rule
guaranteeing that it's anything more than a name. I know of COHENs who are
Levites, and others who are neither, despite their surname. (EPSTEIN is a name
commonly associated with Levites, for example, but at least one EPSTEIN whom I
have met, says that his family adopted the name after immigrating, because they
felt it sounded "more American".)

Given names are more usually "in honour" of an ancestor, so a single,
distinguished "Schneur" or "Yerachmiel" could give rise to a whole bunch of
similarly-named young ones.

For an overview of historical Paltiels, you can look up
<http://jewishencyclopedia.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&keywords=paltiel>, which
has the text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia online.

As for being named after the ship, on the face of it, this seems unlikely. I
couldn't find references online to any ship named Paltiel. (not a definitive
result, but certainly a good indication, since so many other ships *are* to be
found online.) There are, however, plenty of ships' names containing "Philip"
or "Phillip", so I would guess that the story was originally that he was named
Phillip after the ship they arrived on (and Paltiel being a nice biblical
sound-alike for Phillip, showing a definite knowledge of the bible, which was
probably a result of the yeshiva connection), and it got a little mixed up in
the retelling. Or at least that's one possibility.

....... tom klein, Toronto

"Roberta Sheps" <rsheps@ntlworld.com> wrote:
My maternal grand-father's family was not known (at least in my mother's
generation) for being particularly religious, despite being Kohanim.
Indeed, the only time I recollect seeing either of my maternal grandparents
in shul was for my wedding. However, I have just come across a small fact
that suggests that my maternal great-grandfather's family may have been more
devout that I thought.

My grandfather had a brother named, in English, Phillip. The family came
from Talno, which was the site of an important Yeshiva. An account by a
woman who I always thought was embroidering the story, said that the family
were among the "highest of rabbis". Some years ago my mother told me that
she thought Phillip had been named Paltiel, after the ship on which the
family travelled to Canada. However, I have just learned that Paltiel is a
name that occurs in Numbers. And someone who knows a lot more about ships
than I do, said that he couldn't think of any ship called "The Paltiel".

My questions are, was Paltiel a name that was reserved to Kohanim, and if
not, how common a name was it?


Seeking translator for handwritten Yiddish records #general

Fern Blood <feblood@...>
 

I am seeking recommendations for a translator experienced with handwritten
Yiddish archival records. I have images of birth, marriage, divorce, and
death records beginning in 1854, for the town of Pyatigory, south of Kiev.
If you can recommend a translator for this work, please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT

GREENBERG, ROSETSKY, POSTILNICK, SHPINDELYUK, GRIBELYUK, Pyatigory, Zashkov


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking translator for handwritten Yiddish records #general

Fern Blood <feblood@...>
 

I am seeking recommendations for a translator experienced with handwritten
Yiddish archival records. I have images of birth, marriage, divorce, and
death records beginning in 1854, for the town of Pyatigory, south of Kiev.
If you can recommend a translator for this work, please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT

GREENBERG, ROSETSKY, POSTILNICK, SHPINDELYUK, GRIBELYUK, Pyatigory, Zashkov


Rotterdam passenger arrival #general

Sue Seales <sue.seales@...>
 

Would there have been any record kept, either by the shipping company or by
newspaper article, of a passenger arriving in Rotterdam >from New York, circa
1900?

I am looking for someone who was deported >from the U.S. after imprisonment in
Massachusetts for murder. She was a young woman, in the U.S. for approximately
two years. Since her original departure had been >from Rotterdam, she would
have been sent back to her port of departure.

I know that there were no U.S. records kept of passenger departures, although
I have found newspaper articles regarding the murder and court action. I also
know that the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, who might have been involved with
the person, did not begin keeping records until after 1900.

No online sources turn up anything relating to arrivals in Rotterdam.
Deportation >from the U.S. could be quite brutal, with people already in the
country being deported >from their point of entry, with no belongings or money.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sue Seales, North Carolina

researching:
BOYARSKY; Mosty, Grodno and Massachusetts
FRIDMAN/FREEDMAN; Grinkishok and Siluva, Kovno
ROSENTAL; Odessa, Ukraine. Zaremby and Wengrow, Poland
BLUSZTEJN; Zaremby, Poland
ZELONY/ZELIONY/ZELENY; Bershad, Ukraine. Odessa and Chicago
TARTAK; Odessa, Argentina, Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rotterdam passenger arrival #general

Sue Seales <sue.seales@...>
 

Would there have been any record kept, either by the shipping company or by
newspaper article, of a passenger arriving in Rotterdam >from New York, circa
1900?

I am looking for someone who was deported >from the U.S. after imprisonment in
Massachusetts for murder. She was a young woman, in the U.S. for approximately
two years. Since her original departure had been >from Rotterdam, she would
have been sent back to her port of departure.

I know that there were no U.S. records kept of passenger departures, although
I have found newspaper articles regarding the murder and court action. I also
know that the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, who might have been involved with
the person, did not begin keeping records until after 1900.

No online sources turn up anything relating to arrivals in Rotterdam.
Deportation >from the U.S. could be quite brutal, with people already in the
country being deported >from their point of entry, with no belongings or money.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sue Seales, North Carolina

researching:
BOYARSKY; Mosty, Grodno and Massachusetts
FRIDMAN/FREEDMAN; Grinkishok and Siluva, Kovno
ROSENTAL; Odessa, Ukraine. Zaremby and Wengrow, Poland
BLUSZTEJN; Zaremby, Poland
ZELONY/ZELIONY/ZELENY; Bershad, Ukraine. Odessa and Chicago
TARTAK; Odessa, Argentina, Chicago


Re: The name Paltiel #general

Dubin, David M. MD <David.Dubin@...>
 

Hi all,
Though I had a great-uncle named Paltiel (Paul in the US) who was a Kohen,
Paltiel is just a man's name. No indications of ancestry (other than that he
may have been named for an earlier Paltiel).

There was more than one Paltiel in the Bible, not including a Palti, short
for Paltiel.

David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ
Searching for GOMPERTZ (all), GESTETNER (all)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: The name Paltiel #general

Dubin, David M. MD <David.Dubin@...>
 

Hi all,
Though I had a great-uncle named Paltiel (Paul in the US) who was a Kohen,
Paltiel is just a man's name. No indications of ancestry (other than that he
may have been named for an earlier Paltiel).

There was more than one Paltiel in the Bible, not including a Palti, short
for Paltiel.

David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ
Searching for GOMPERTZ (all), GESTETNER (all)


Re: 1937--1941 Immigration Visa Files. #general

Alex Feller
 

Jim Bennett wrote about his quest to find immigration visa records for
his relatives. He wrote:
"We made some inquiries attempting to locate the files on this case, at the
National Archives, but never got anywhere. We assume that the U.S. consulate
in Warsaw was the place where application was made. We never got anywhere
with our research."

This past March, I made a visit to the National Archives in Maryland to
search for visa and immigration records in the US Consulate of Warsaw files.
Unfortunately, documents related to immigration and visas >from that consulate
only exist up to 1933 and was told that records after 1933 were most likely
destroyed. However, I still looked through some of the large books containing
correspondence of the US consulate in Warsaw and did find lists of people
whose visas were approved in addition to interesting newspaper clippings and
documentation of those who tried to smuggle people to the US.

Another location at the archives for research are the Visa Case Files 1914-
1940. Although I did not find any records for my grandfather who immigrated
in 1938, I did find supporting documents for the visa application for my
great grandfather who immigrated in 1930. At the same time, I also am using
the USCIS genealogy program to see what records they are able to find. Still
waiting on those.

Anyone interested in reading more in detail about my visit researching Visa
and Immigration records at the National Archives can check out my blog.
https://genealogybyalex.wordpress.com/2015/03/26/visit-to-nara-ii-in-college-park/

Hope that helps.

Alex Feller,
Chicago, IL
Founder, Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group
Corresponding Secretary, Gesher Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1937--1941 Immigration Visa Files. #general

Alex Feller
 

Jim Bennett wrote about his quest to find immigration visa records for
his relatives. He wrote:
"We made some inquiries attempting to locate the files on this case, at the
National Archives, but never got anywhere. We assume that the U.S. consulate
in Warsaw was the place where application was made. We never got anywhere
with our research."

This past March, I made a visit to the National Archives in Maryland to
search for visa and immigration records in the US Consulate of Warsaw files.
Unfortunately, documents related to immigration and visas >from that consulate
only exist up to 1933 and was told that records after 1933 were most likely
destroyed. However, I still looked through some of the large books containing
correspondence of the US consulate in Warsaw and did find lists of people
whose visas were approved in addition to interesting newspaper clippings and
documentation of those who tried to smuggle people to the US.

Another location at the archives for research are the Visa Case Files 1914-
1940. Although I did not find any records for my grandfather who immigrated
in 1938, I did find supporting documents for the visa application for my
great grandfather who immigrated in 1930. At the same time, I also am using
the USCIS genealogy program to see what records they are able to find. Still
waiting on those.

Anyone interested in reading more in detail about my visit researching Visa
and Immigration records at the National Archives can check out my blog.
https://genealogybyalex.wordpress.com/2015/03/26/visit-to-nara-ii-in-college-park/

Hope that helps.

Alex Feller,
Chicago, IL
Founder, Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group
Corresponding Secretary, Gesher Galicia


Re: The name Paltiel #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Jeri Solomon <rosecitykitty@comcast.net>
wrote on 14 Jun 2015 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Roberta asked if there was any significance to the name Paltiel. I would
also like to know the answer to this question. I know that the name is
in the Bible
Palti-el; "God is [my] deliverance"

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0015_0_15363.html>

but is there anything else that is remarkable?
I cannot imagine.

Both my
great-grandfather and his cousin were named Abraham Paltiel. The family
is >from Ukraine.
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Paltiel #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Jeri Solomon <rosecitykitty@comcast.net>
wrote on 14 Jun 2015 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Roberta asked if there was any significance to the name Paltiel. I would
also like to know the answer to this question. I know that the name is
in the Bible
Palti-el; "God is [my] deliverance"

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0015_0_15363.html>

but is there anything else that is remarkable?
I cannot imagine.

Both my
great-grandfather and his cousin were named Abraham Paltiel. The family
is >from Ukraine.
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)


KALFUSS Family #general

kalfus.j@...
 

Dear friends,
I'm looking for my great-great-great-grandparents Lewick/Lewek and
Anna KALFUSS. I have only some records >from Vienna showing their son
was born in Brzesko (Galicia) in 1850, so I suppose Lewick and Anna
had to live in that area of the town of Brzesko or the county
town of Tarnow (today Poland).

I also suppose these my great-great-great-grandparents must have been
born around 1825. But I cannot find any records form Brzesko >from those
times.

So is there anybody whose ancestors belonged to the KALFUSS family
branch of that area of Brzesko/Tarnow and would know any Lewick/Anna
KALFUSS? They both were Jewish.

Thank You,

Jiri Kalfus, Brno, Czech Rep.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately unless offering suggestions for
resources or methodology that would be of interest to readers of this forum.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KALFUSS Family #general

kalfus.j@...
 

Dear friends,
I'm looking for my great-great-great-grandparents Lewick/Lewek and
Anna KALFUSS. I have only some records >from Vienna showing their son
was born in Brzesko (Galicia) in 1850, so I suppose Lewick and Anna
had to live in that area of the town of Brzesko or the county
town of Tarnow (today Poland).

I also suppose these my great-great-great-grandparents must have been
born around 1825. But I cannot find any records form Brzesko >from those
times.

So is there anybody whose ancestors belonged to the KALFUSS family
branch of that area of Brzesko/Tarnow and would know any Lewick/Anna
KALFUSS? They both were Jewish.

Thank You,

Jiri Kalfus, Brno, Czech Rep.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately unless offering suggestions for
resources or methodology that would be of interest to readers of this forum.


Seeking translator for handwritten Yiddish records #ukraine

Fern Blood <feblood@...>
 

I am seeking recommendations for a translator experienced with handwritten
Yiddish archival records. I have images of birth, marriage, divorce, and
death records beginning in 1854, for the town of Pyatigory, south of Kiev.
If you can recommend a translator for this work, please contact me
privately.

Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT

GREENBERG, ROSETSKY, POSTILNICK, SHPINDELYUK, GRIBELYUK, Pyatigory, Zashkov


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Seeking translator for handwritten Yiddish records #ukraine

Fern Blood <feblood@...>
 

I am seeking recommendations for a translator experienced with handwritten
Yiddish archival records. I have images of birth, marriage, divorce, and
death records beginning in 1854, for the town of Pyatigory, south of Kiev.
If you can recommend a translator for this work, please contact me
privately.

Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT

GREENBERG, ROSETSKY, POSTILNICK, SHPINDELYUK, GRIBELYUK, Pyatigory, Zashkov


Loewenheim and Bedikowski #southafrica

Henri Obstfeld <h.obstfeld@...>
 

Seeking any information about Horst Loewenheim (born 1913) and Lilli
Loewenheim nee Bedikowski.
Their children were Marion and Harold.
Many thanks,

Dorothy Obstfeld
Stanmore
HA7 4HP
UK


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Loewenheim and Bedikowski #southafrica

Henri Obstfeld <h.obstfeld@...>
 

Seeking any information about Horst Loewenheim (born 1913) and Lilli
Loewenheim nee Bedikowski.
Their children were Marion and Harold.
Many thanks,

Dorothy Obstfeld
Stanmore
HA7 4HP
UK

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