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Israel address #general

Thomas Lerman
 

I have been told in the past that a great grand aunt (Machle/Amelia/Amelie
Sure Reitman) and her husband (Mortiz/Morris Schmetterling) were killed
in the holocaust. However, I have not been able to find any documentation
indication this tragedy. I recently found out a possibility exists that
he divorced her, married a much younger woman, they moved to Israel,
and had a couple of children. I have been given an address, all on one line,
for one of the grandsons of my great grand aunt. Supposedly, a few of the
family passed on in Israel, but have heard the death certificates, etc.
are hard to get.

So, my questions are:
1) I would like to send a letter (know of no other way to contact) the relative
in Israel. I have what I was told is his address, but how do I format it?
I know I have not sent it as I believe it would be redacted, so may have to
send it privately to someone.

2) If my great grand aunt was killed in the holocaust, any clues to help
finding her? I have not definitively found her with a maiden name listed
and not with her husband. If they were divorced for sure, I do not know
when that happened, how to find out, if she remarried, if she died instead
of divorce, or what.

3) Is it true that the death certificates are hard to get?

Please reply privately unless of general interest.
Thank you,
Thomas Lerman
Western USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel address #general

Thomas Lerman
 

I have been told in the past that a great grand aunt (Machle/Amelia/Amelie
Sure Reitman) and her husband (Mortiz/Morris Schmetterling) were killed
in the holocaust. However, I have not been able to find any documentation
indication this tragedy. I recently found out a possibility exists that
he divorced her, married a much younger woman, they moved to Israel,
and had a couple of children. I have been given an address, all on one line,
for one of the grandsons of my great grand aunt. Supposedly, a few of the
family passed on in Israel, but have heard the death certificates, etc.
are hard to get.

So, my questions are:
1) I would like to send a letter (know of no other way to contact) the relative
in Israel. I have what I was told is his address, but how do I format it?
I know I have not sent it as I believe it would be redacted, so may have to
send it privately to someone.

2) If my great grand aunt was killed in the holocaust, any clues to help
finding her? I have not definitively found her with a maiden name listed
and not with her husband. If they were divorced for sure, I do not know
when that happened, how to find out, if she remarried, if she died instead
of divorce, or what.

3) Is it true that the death certificates are hard to get?

Please reply privately unless of general interest.
Thank you,
Thomas Lerman
Western USA


Viewmate posting: Tombstone translation (Hebrew) #general

Roy Ogus <r_ogus@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the Hebrew inscription on the tombstone
in the photo that I posted on Viewmate at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42192

Since this is a long inscription, I would be happy with a summary (i.e.
not an exact translation) of any content that is not of genealogical value
(e.g. not names, dates or places) if this would be more convenient
for you.

The genealogical information appears to be shown at the bottom of the stone
(the last 6 - 8 lines).
Many thanks.
Roy Ogus
Palo Alto California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate posting: Tombstone translation (Hebrew) #general

Roy Ogus <r_ogus@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the Hebrew inscription on the tombstone
in the photo that I posted on Viewmate at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42192

Since this is a long inscription, I would be happy with a summary (i.e.
not an exact translation) of any content that is not of genealogical value
(e.g. not names, dates or places) if this would be more convenient
for you.

The genealogical information appears to be shown at the bottom of the stone
(the last 6 - 8 lines).
Many thanks.
Roy Ogus
Palo Alto California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


Subj: ViewMate VM42379 hand writing help - Hebrew #general

hotdog <hotdog@...>
 

Dear One and All:

I've posted a Hebrew inscription found in Jewish religious book.

I need help with parts of the text. Some of it I was able to read.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42379

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much and shana tova.

Jay Lenefsky -Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Subj: ViewMate VM42379 hand writing help - Hebrew #general

hotdog <hotdog@...>
 

Dear One and All:

I've posted a Hebrew inscription found in Jewish religious book.

I need help with parts of the text. Some of it I was able to read.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42379

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much and shana tova.

Jay Lenefsky -Israel


Help request: Martin STERNBERG of Breslau / Martin STERNE of the Bronx #general

Alexander Watson <a.watson.genas@...>
 

Hello again,

Thank you very much to the many people who replied to my call for help
about finding out whether the grave of the Lieutenant Martin
STERNBERG, in Mennevret, Northern France, might be the last resting
place of a member of my family. I believe that I have thanked
everybody personnally, but if I did forget anyone, please forgive me.

A forgotten & mysterious address in New York, in one of the letters
that my great-grandfather in Breslau sent to my grandmother on her
arrival in Great Britain in 1939, and the unfailing helpfulness of
Andre GUENTHER allowed me to trace my great-great-uncle Martin
STERNBERG to the Bronx in 1926, where he became Martin STERNE. His two
children Vera (LIEBERMAN) and Stanley Herman STERNE only died quite
recently. Stanley has descendants.

With heartfelt thanks

Alexander Watson, Genas (near Lyon) France

Search areas:
COHN of Polgsen, Rawitsch & Strasburg
FABIAN of Kallies, Maerkisch Friedland, Neuwedell, Berlin and Hamburg,
Sao Paolo and Shanghai;
ROSENBERG of Neuwedell and Pyritz
STERNBERG of Polgsen, Rawitsch, Breslau, Berlin, Shanghai, Erfurt and Fuerth
STERNE of New York, The Bronx, Texas & Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help request: Martin STERNBERG of Breslau / Martin STERNE of the Bronx #general

Alexander Watson <a.watson.genas@...>
 

Hello again,

Thank you very much to the many people who replied to my call for help
about finding out whether the grave of the Lieutenant Martin
STERNBERG, in Mennevret, Northern France, might be the last resting
place of a member of my family. I believe that I have thanked
everybody personnally, but if I did forget anyone, please forgive me.

A forgotten & mysterious address in New York, in one of the letters
that my great-grandfather in Breslau sent to my grandmother on her
arrival in Great Britain in 1939, and the unfailing helpfulness of
Andre GUENTHER allowed me to trace my great-great-uncle Martin
STERNBERG to the Bronx in 1926, where he became Martin STERNE. His two
children Vera (LIEBERMAN) and Stanley Herman STERNE only died quite
recently. Stanley has descendants.

With heartfelt thanks

Alexander Watson, Genas (near Lyon) France

Search areas:
COHN of Polgsen, Rawitsch & Strasburg
FABIAN of Kallies, Maerkisch Friedland, Neuwedell, Berlin and Hamburg,
Sao Paolo and Shanghai;
ROSENBERG of Neuwedell and Pyritz
STERNBERG of Polgsen, Rawitsch, Breslau, Berlin, Shanghai, Erfurt and Fuerth
STERNE of New York, The Bronx, Texas & Los Angeles


KehilaLinks Project Report for May / June 2015 - ADDITIONAL INFORMATION #poland #warsaw

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Missing >from the KehilaLinks Project Report for May / June 2015:

KEHILALINKS WEBPAGES RECENTLY UPDATED:

Berehujfalu (Beregujfalu, Nove Selo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Berehujfalu/
~~~

Bila Tserkva (Tiszafejeregyhaza, Bila Cirkev), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bila_Tserkva/
~~~

Bilovartsi (Kiskirva, Belovarec), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bilovartsi/
~~~

Bohdan (Tiszabogdany, Bogdan), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bohdan/
~~~

Kalyny (Alsokalinfalva), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kalyny/
~~~

Klyachanovo (Klacsano, Klicanovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Klyachanovo_Klacsano/
~~~

Kobylets'ka Polyana (Gyertyanliget, Kobylecka Polana), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kobyletska_Polyana/
~~~

Lopukhiv (Brusztura, Brustura), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lopukhiv/
~~~

Lypcha (Lipcse, Lipca), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lypcha/
~~~

Lypetska Polyana (Lipcsemezo, Lipecka Pol'ana ), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lypetska_Polyana/
~~~

Muzhiyevo (Nagymuzsaly, Muzijovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Muzhiyevo/
~~~

Novoselytsya (Taracujfalu, Novoselice), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Novoselytsya_Taracujfalu/
~~~

Nyzhnye Selyshche (Alsoszelistye, Nizne Selist'e), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Nyzhnye_Selyshche/
~~~

Oleksandrivka (Osandorfalva, Sandrovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Oleksandrivka/
~~~

Oleshnyk (Szolosegres, Egres), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Oleshnyk/
~~~

Osiy (Szajkofalva, Osuj), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Osiy/
~~~

Radvanka (Radvancz, Radvanka), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Radvanka/
~~~

Roztoka (Alsohatarszeg, Nizni Roztoka), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Roztoka/
~~~

Sasovo (Tiszaszaszfalu, Sasfalovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Sasovo/
~~~

Serednye Vodiane (Kozepapsa, Apsa Stredni), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Serednye_Vodiane/
~~~

Teresva (Tarackoz), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Teresva/
~~~

Trosnyk (Tiszasasvar, Sasvar), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Trosnyk/
~~~

Tysobyken' (Tiszabokeny, Bykenie), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Tysobyken/
~~~

Uhlya (Uglya, Uhl'a), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Uhlya/
~~~

Velyatyn (Velete, Velatyn), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Velyatyn/
~~~

Vonihovo (Vajnag, Vonyhove), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Vonihovo/
~~~

Vynohradiv (Nagyszollos, Sevlus), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Vynohradiv/
~~~

Yasinya (Korosmezo, Jasina), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Yasinya/
~~~

Zarichovo (Drugethaza, Zaricov), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Zarichovo/
~~~

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.


Fall Education Courses at JewishGen #warsaw #poland

Phyllis Kramer
 

We are pleased to announce our fall lineup.

All of our 4 week courses have something special that you won't find
elsewhere... a real instructor who will guide you 24/7 with your
branch research.

10/1-11/1 Dead Ends and Brick Walls - An Advanced class to review and
analyze your data and gain insights for new research.
11/15-12/15 Organize & Research Online - for Advanced Beginners...what
to do after you've gathered your documents >from Ancestry and FamilySearch

We also have 2 week text based classes for quick updates on your
research. We waive the tuition to those 'genners who have Value Added
Services (more info at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
11/1 - Basic 2: Search Strategies
1/4 - Basic 1: Exploring JewishGen

Some of the courses are open for registration now, others will be open
2-3 weeks before they start.
check it out: www.jewishgen.org/education

Shana Tova....
Phyllis Kramer, VP, education
phylliskramer1@...
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager


Viewmate translation request - Polish #warsaw #poland

Joel weiner
 

I've posted two one-page legal documents ("protokol legalizacyjny")
in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the
following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM41346
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM41345
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

These are very important to me, and I would greatly appreciate the help.
Thank you very much.

Joel Weiner


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland KehilaLinks Project Report for May / June 2015 - ADDITIONAL INFORMATION #poland #warsaw

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Missing >from the KehilaLinks Project Report for May / June 2015:

KEHILALINKS WEBPAGES RECENTLY UPDATED:

Berehujfalu (Beregujfalu, Nove Selo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Berehujfalu/
~~~

Bila Tserkva (Tiszafejeregyhaza, Bila Cirkev), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bila_Tserkva/
~~~

Bilovartsi (Kiskirva, Belovarec), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bilovartsi/
~~~

Bohdan (Tiszabogdany, Bogdan), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bohdan/
~~~

Kalyny (Alsokalinfalva), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kalyny/
~~~

Klyachanovo (Klacsano, Klicanovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Klyachanovo_Klacsano/
~~~

Kobylets'ka Polyana (Gyertyanliget, Kobylecka Polana), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kobyletska_Polyana/
~~~

Lopukhiv (Brusztura, Brustura), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lopukhiv/
~~~

Lypcha (Lipcse, Lipca), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lypcha/
~~~

Lypetska Polyana (Lipcsemezo, Lipecka Pol'ana ), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Lypetska_Polyana/
~~~

Muzhiyevo (Nagymuzsaly, Muzijovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Muzhiyevo/
~~~

Novoselytsya (Taracujfalu, Novoselice), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Novoselytsya_Taracujfalu/
~~~

Nyzhnye Selyshche (Alsoszelistye, Nizne Selist'e), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Nyzhnye_Selyshche/
~~~

Oleksandrivka (Osandorfalva, Sandrovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Oleksandrivka/
~~~

Oleshnyk (Szolosegres, Egres), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Oleshnyk/
~~~

Osiy (Szajkofalva, Osuj), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Osiy/
~~~

Radvanka (Radvancz, Radvanka), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Radvanka/
~~~

Roztoka (Alsohatarszeg, Nizni Roztoka), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Roztoka/
~~~

Sasovo (Tiszaszaszfalu, Sasfalovo), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Sasovo/
~~~

Serednye Vodiane (Kozepapsa, Apsa Stredni), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Serednye_Vodiane/
~~~

Teresva (Tarackoz), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Teresva/
~~~

Trosnyk (Tiszasasvar, Sasvar), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Trosnyk/
~~~

Tysobyken' (Tiszabokeny, Bykenie), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Tysobyken/
~~~

Uhlya (Uglya, Uhl'a), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Uhlya/
~~~

Velyatyn (Velete, Velatyn), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Velyatyn/
~~~

Vonihovo (Vajnag, Vonyhove), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Vonihovo/
~~~

Vynohradiv (Nagyszollos, Sevlus), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Vynohradiv/
~~~

Yasinya (Korosmezo, Jasina), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Yasinya/
~~~

Zarichovo (Drugethaza, Zaricov), (S-C), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Zarichovo/
~~~

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Fall Education Courses at JewishGen #warsaw #poland

Phyllis Kramer
 

We are pleased to announce our fall lineup.

All of our 4 week courses have something special that you won't find
elsewhere... a real instructor who will guide you 24/7 with your
branch research.

10/1-11/1 Dead Ends and Brick Walls - An Advanced class to review and
analyze your data and gain insights for new research.
11/15-12/15 Organize & Research Online - for Advanced Beginners...what
to do after you've gathered your documents >from Ancestry and FamilySearch

We also have 2 week text based classes for quick updates on your
research. We waive the tuition to those 'genners who have Value Added
Services (more info at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
11/1 - Basic 2: Search Strategies
1/4 - Basic 1: Exploring JewishGen

Some of the courses are open for registration now, others will be open
2-3 weeks before they start.
check it out: www.jewishgen.org/education

Shana Tova....
Phyllis Kramer, VP, education
phylliskramer1@...
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Viewmate translation request - Polish #warsaw #poland

Joel weiner
 

I've posted two one-page legal documents ("protokol legalizacyjny")
in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the
following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM41346
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM41345
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

These are very important to me, and I would greatly appreciate the help.
Thank you very much.

Joel Weiner


Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Babies who died 100 years ago of usually had a gravestone. It often was
much smaller than that for an adult. Many of these were not of the now more
familiar, durable granite, but often of sandstone, limestone or marble
which can crumble or deliminate over time and may not be legible or even
completely crumble.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSZFELD, HERSCHFELD, HERZFELD, LINDENBAUM, BUXBAUM, BUCHSBAUM-Skwarzawa,
Gliniany, Jaryczow Nowy-GALICIA
MINOWITZKI, MINOWICKI, MINOFF-Brest Litovsk, Vysoko Litovsk-BELARUS


Is there any religious or non-religious reason why a baby's grave
(approximately about 100 years ago) would NOT have a gravestone to mark
the
site of the grave?
snip..........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Babies who died 100 years ago of usually had a gravestone. It often was
much smaller than that for an adult. Many of these were not of the now more
familiar, durable granite, but often of sandstone, limestone or marble
which can crumble or deliminate over time and may not be legible or even
completely crumble.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSZFELD, HERSCHFELD, HERZFELD, LINDENBAUM, BUXBAUM, BUCHSBAUM-Skwarzawa,
Gliniany, Jaryczow Nowy-GALICIA
MINOWITZKI, MINOWICKI, MINOFF-Brest Litovsk, Vysoko Litovsk-BELARUS


Is there any religious or non-religious reason why a baby's grave
(approximately about 100 years ago) would NOT have a gravestone to mark
the
site of the grave?
snip..........


Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

You may not be able to locate a marked grave.

Traditionally, according to Halacha (Jewish law), no funeral or formal
mourning period was held for an infant that did not survive for 30 days.
(While that may seem harsh to us, we must remember that, until relatively
recently, infant and child mortality were extremely high. Funerals
were not held, no marker was placed on the grave, and parents might not
know where the grave was located.
It made sense: Otherwise some families might have been mourning almost
continuously. Today only the most strictly Orthodox are that strict about it -
as infant mortality has decreased, there is recognition of the
parents' need to mourn.

Shelda Sandler stanshel@...
wrote:

Is there any religious or non-religious reason why a baby's grave
(approx 100 yrs ago) would NOT have a gravestone?
snip..............


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

You may not be able to locate a marked grave.

Traditionally, according to Halacha (Jewish law), no funeral or formal
mourning period was held for an infant that did not survive for 30 days.
(While that may seem harsh to us, we must remember that, until relatively
recently, infant and child mortality were extremely high. Funerals
were not held, no marker was placed on the grave, and parents might not
know where the grave was located.
It made sense: Otherwise some families might have been mourning almost
continuously. Today only the most strictly Orthodox are that strict about it -
as infant mortality has decreased, there is recognition of the
parents' need to mourn.

Shelda Sandler stanshel@...
wrote:

Is there any religious or non-religious reason why a baby's grave
(approx 100 yrs ago) would NOT have a gravestone?
snip..............


Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelda Sandler stanshel@...

To date, the gravesite for which I am
searching has not been located.
Might the reason for not erecting a
matzevah over a baby or child's grave be
because the parents could not afford
a gravestone? Or could there be some
other reason, religious or
otherwise?


I do not know about religious reasons but it could be affordability issues.
Also a lot of child stones were done of softer, less expensive materials
and stood closer to the ground. The end result the child stones did not
stand the test of time the same way adult stones. I have seen this in the
NYC area a lot of times even at well maintained cemeteries.

So may not be an issue of did a stone exist but instead Did the
stone survive the years.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelda Sandler stanshel@...

To date, the gravesite for which I am
searching has not been located.
Might the reason for not erecting a
matzevah over a baby or child's grave be
because the parents could not afford
a gravestone? Or could there be some
other reason, religious or
otherwise?


I do not know about religious reasons but it could be affordability issues.
Also a lot of child stones were done of softer, less expensive materials
and stood closer to the ground. The end result the child stones did not
stand the test of time the same way adult stones. I have seen this in the
NYC area a lot of times even at well maintained cemeteries.

So may not be an issue of did a stone exist but instead Did the
stone survive the years.

Allan Jordan

95461 - 95480 of 669901