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Thank You to All Who Responded to My Post About a Baby's Gravestone #general

Stanley and Shelda Sandler
 

Dear Genners,

A huge thank you to everyone who responded to my question about gravestones
of babies and stillborns who were born a hundred years ago. All of you will
receive a personal reply >from me.

It seems >from the replies I received that affordability issues were one
reason why gravestones were not erected over a baby's grave. Other
responses explained that many child stones were made >from softer, less
expensive materials and stood closer to the ground. The child gravestones
apparently did not stand the test of time as adult gravestones do.

There were other responses which indicated that according to rabbinic law,
no funeral or formal mourning period was held for an infant that did not
survive for 30 days.

My thanks and greatest appreciation to all who responded.

As for JewishGen...Where else can you post a question at 7:00 P.M.(ET) one
night and have replies early the next morning!JEWISHGEN IS AWESOME!!!!

L'Shana Tova,

Shelda Sandler
U.S.A.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank You to All Who Responded to My Post About a Baby's Gravestone #general

Stanley and Shelda Sandler
 

Dear Genners,

A huge thank you to everyone who responded to my question about gravestones
of babies and stillborns who were born a hundred years ago. All of you will
receive a personal reply >from me.

It seems >from the replies I received that affordability issues were one
reason why gravestones were not erected over a baby's grave. Other
responses explained that many child stones were made >from softer, less
expensive materials and stood closer to the ground. The child gravestones
apparently did not stand the test of time as adult gravestones do.

There were other responses which indicated that according to rabbinic law,
no funeral or formal mourning period was held for an infant that did not
survive for 30 days.

My thanks and greatest appreciation to all who responded.

As for JewishGen...Where else can you post a question at 7:00 P.M.(ET) one
night and have replies early the next morning!JEWISHGEN IS AWESOME!!!!

L'Shana Tova,

Shelda Sandler
U.S.A.

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen is indeed awesome, so why not make a donation
to support its vital work? Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/
The name KHLAUNO #general

Coupland <how.jacque@...>
 

I have just found some information >from Jewish Gen that I have a relative
whose given name is KHLAUNO. I would like to know what is the origin of
this name. Is it Hebrew, Yiddish or Lithuanian ?

Thanks

Howard Coupland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The name KHLAUNO #general

Coupland <how.jacque@...>
 

I have just found some information >from Jewish Gen that I have a relative
whose given name is KHLAUNO. I would like to know what is the origin of
this name. Is it Hebrew, Yiddish or Lithuanian ?

Thanks

Howard Coupland
Trying to make contact with Gary Feitelberg #general

Roy Ogus
 

I'm trying to contact Gary Feitelberg. The previous e-mail address I have
for him is not longer valid, so I would appreciate hearing >from anyone
who has Gary's current address.

Please respond directly to me - do not copy the whole discussion group.
Thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Roy, you can also contact JewishGen's LostnFound service;
Lostnfound@lyris.jewishgen.org
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genner with another genner whose e-mail has bounced or who is not
answering e-mails. We will try to update the "lost" genner's
address.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to make contact with Gary Feitelberg #general

Roy Ogus
 

I'm trying to contact Gary Feitelberg. The previous e-mail address I have
for him is not longer valid, so I would appreciate hearing >from anyone
who has Gary's current address.

Please respond directly to me - do not copy the whole discussion group.
Thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Roy, you can also contact JewishGen's LostnFound service;
Lostnfound@lyris.jewishgen.org
LostNFound is a volunteer service of JewishGen to connect a
genner with another genner whose e-mail has bounced or who is not
answering e-mails. We will try to update the "lost" genner's
address.
ViewMate help wanted - Russian #general

Bernard Lowe <benoniboy@...>
 

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a
translation.

I believe it is the marriage record of my gg parents Yaakov EPELBAUM
and Dvora WARTELSKY in Suvalki >from 1875.

If anyone can provide a translation of the document, or even just the
vital information (names, dates etc,), I would be grateful.

The Viewmate No. is #42333

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42333

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Bernard Lowe
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate help wanted - Russian #general

Bernard Lowe <benoniboy@...>
 

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a
translation.

I believe it is the marriage record of my gg parents Yaakov EPELBAUM
and Dvora WARTELSKY in Suvalki >from 1875.

If anyone can provide a translation of the document, or even just the
vital information (names, dates etc,), I would be grateful.

The Viewmate No. is #42333

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42333

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Bernard Lowe
ViewMate translation - German #general

Milton Koch
 

I've posted a vital record in German, of Debora Koch,
for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42308

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Milton Koch
KOCH-Jagielnica
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation - German #general

Milton Koch
 

I've posted a vital record in German, of Debora Koch,
for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=42308

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Milton Koch
KOCH-Jagielnica
looking for Phillys Shapiro(?) who was living in Seattle (in 1991) and married to a rabbi. #general

rayvenna@...
 

I'm looking for a Phyllis whose last name may be Shapiro.
In 1991, she was living in Seattle and married to a rabbi.
I would like to discuss a genealogical matter with her.

Thanks,
Mindie Kaplan
Splaver Family Researcher
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen looking for Phillys Shapiro(?) who was living in Seattle (in 1991) and married to a rabbi. #general

rayvenna@...
 

I'm looking for a Phyllis whose last name may be Shapiro.
In 1991, she was living in Seattle and married to a rabbi.
I would like to discuss a genealogical matter with her.

Thanks,
Mindie Kaplan
Splaver Family Researcher
Where is/how to find records for TESTENBERG Germany? #general

Mitch Bayersdorfer <bayersdorfer2@...>
 

My great-grandfather, Samuel Morris Unger (28 NOV 1863 Testenberg - 14
JAN 1920 Petersburg, Virginia) marriage certificate lists him from
being >from Testenberg, Germany.

Can anyone help me locate Testenberg on a map, and also, whether/where
I might be able to find genealogical records for it?

Thanks and best wishes!

- Mitch Bayersdorfer
bayersdorfer2@gmail.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is/how to find records for TESTENBERG Germany? #general

Mitch Bayersdorfer <bayersdorfer2@...>
 

My great-grandfather, Samuel Morris Unger (28 NOV 1863 Testenberg - 14
JAN 1920 Petersburg, Virginia) marriage certificate lists him from
being >from Testenberg, Germany.

Can anyone help me locate Testenberg on a map, and also, whether/where
I might be able to find genealogical records for it?

Thanks and best wishes!

- Mitch Bayersdorfer
bayersdorfer2@gmail.com
Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Shelda Sandlers asked whether there any reasons why the grave of a baby who
died about 100 years ago would NOT have a gravestone...

My answer is that if a baby did not have a grave marker 100 years ago, most
of the time it was because of expense. When marked, a stillborn baby
or infant that survived only several days, not long enough to be named, might
have a stone that says (generically) "Baby [Surname]," or "Baby Boy/Girl
[Surname]," or "Child of [Father and Mother Surname]," sometimes with a date.

However, according to Jewish religious law followed by everybody at that
time, stillborn babies and those that died within 30 days of birth were not
viable births. There was no funeral, kaddish, shiva, or other mourning,
and if the parents weren't at the cemetery to attend the burial, they may
not have even known the grave location within their society plot unless they
later asked in the cemetery office, so there was often no marker. This is
still the Orthodox religious law. Conservative and Reform law nowadays
is to have funeral services for babies that die any time after birth, and
it's almost universal for even infants to have grave markers, usually
granite like everybody else. I'm not sure about the religious law is for
Conservative and Reform religious law is regarding stillbirths.

Finally, 100 years ago, grave markers for babies were often made of
sandstone or other inferior materials that eroded over time - I have seen
many children's sections, usually located at the back of a landsmanshaft plot,
with small grave markers that are often worn and sometimes completely unreadable,
or broken with just a small base remaining.

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gravestone over a Baby's Grave #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Shelda Sandlers asked whether there any reasons why the grave of a baby who
died about 100 years ago would NOT have a gravestone...

My answer is that if a baby did not have a grave marker 100 years ago, most
of the time it was because of expense. When marked, a stillborn baby
or infant that survived only several days, not long enough to be named, might
have a stone that says (generically) "Baby [Surname]," or "Baby Boy/Girl
[Surname]," or "Child of [Father and Mother Surname]," sometimes with a date.

However, according to Jewish religious law followed by everybody at that
time, stillborn babies and those that died within 30 days of birth were not
viable births. There was no funeral, kaddish, shiva, or other mourning,
and if the parents weren't at the cemetery to attend the burial, they may
not have even known the grave location within their society plot unless they
later asked in the cemetery office, so there was often no marker. This is
still the Orthodox religious law. Conservative and Reform law nowadays
is to have funeral services for babies that die any time after birth, and
it's almost universal for even infants to have grave markers, usually
granite like everybody else. I'm not sure about the religious law is for
Conservative and Reform religious law is regarding stillbirths.

Finally, 100 years ago, grave markers for babies were often made of
sandstone or other inferior materials that eroded over time - I have seen
many children's sections, usually located at the back of a landsmanshaft plot,
with small grave markers that are often worn and sometimes completely unreadable,
or broken with just a small base remaining.

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
Posen City Registration Cards--are up through W #germany

Elkeles <Barbara_Elkeles@...>
 

Dear group,

Images of the residence registration index cards >from the city of
Posen/Poznan contain a lot of information on inhabitants of the city of
Posen in the 19th until early 20th century.
They may give information of three generations of a family.
(see many entries in the Gersig list archive).

The Polish State Archive image web site had gradually uploaded images of the
cards alphabetized A to R.
I just noticed that the images of the letters S to W are uploaded now. W is
not quite complete.
At best follow the link http://tinyurl.com/lymdnck

There is also a register but it is not yet complete and sometimes the links
are not correct.
http://tinyurl.com/pu8zto3

Best, Barbara Elkeles, North Rhine Westphalia Barbara_Elkeles@gmx.de
German SIG #Germany Posen City Registration Cards--are up through W #germany

Elkeles <Barbara_Elkeles@...>
 

Dear group,

Images of the residence registration index cards >from the city of
Posen/Poznan contain a lot of information on inhabitants of the city of
Posen in the 19th until early 20th century.
They may give information of three generations of a family.
(see many entries in the Gersig list archive).

The Polish State Archive image web site had gradually uploaded images of the
cards alphabetized A to R.
I just noticed that the images of the letters S to W are uploaded now. W is
not quite complete.
At best follow the link http://tinyurl.com/lymdnck

There is also a register but it is not yet complete and sometimes the links
are not correct.
http://tinyurl.com/pu8zto3

Best, Barbara Elkeles, North Rhine Westphalia Barbara_Elkeles@gmx.de
ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

Olivier Neuman
 

Hi,
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42309

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Olivier Neuman (id 458743)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

Olivier Neuman
 

Hi,
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42309

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Olivier Neuman (id 458743)
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