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Yiddish Forward online, but when? #general

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

I am glad that the Yiddish Forward, i.e. Forverts, is eventually going to go
online via the Historical Jewish Press website. However, the announcement
gave no indications of when this scanning project might start, and what kind
of timetable has been set up. I am doing research on Yiddish theatre, and
having the Forverts online will save me the time and expense of schlepping
into NYC each time to gather research data, etc.

Will the microfilms of the Forverts be scanned at the NYPL/Dorot Divion on
41st and 5th Ave.? Will the many issues of the newspapers go on piecemeal,
or will we have to wait till everything is done when all of the available
editions will have been scanned and uploaded to their server? I know I can
try contacting them, but I am wondering whether anyone might be able to shed
some light on this. The folks I spoke to at the NYPL yesterday--while they
might not have been the right people to ask--had no clue.

By the way, the Historical Jewish Press has many other Jewish publications
already freely online. The Yiddish-language newspapers and journals online
there are the Haynt and the Jewish Morning Journal. You can find the latter
(and links to others via a drop-down menu) at
http://jpress.org.il/Olive/APA/NLI/?action=tab&tab=browse&pub=TJM .

Thanks.

Steve Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish Forward online, but when? #general

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

I am glad that the Yiddish Forward, i.e. Forverts, is eventually going to go
online via the Historical Jewish Press website. However, the announcement
gave no indications of when this scanning project might start, and what kind
of timetable has been set up. I am doing research on Yiddish theatre, and
having the Forverts online will save me the time and expense of schlepping
into NYC each time to gather research data, etc.

Will the microfilms of the Forverts be scanned at the NYPL/Dorot Divion on
41st and 5th Ave.? Will the many issues of the newspapers go on piecemeal,
or will we have to wait till everything is done when all of the available
editions will have been scanned and uploaded to their server? I know I can
try contacting them, but I am wondering whether anyone might be able to shed
some light on this. The folks I spoke to at the NYPL yesterday--while they
might not have been the right people to ask--had no clue.

By the way, the Historical Jewish Press has many other Jewish publications
already freely online. The Yiddish-language newspapers and journals online
there are the Haynt and the Jewish Morning Journal. You can find the latter
(and links to others via a drop-down menu) at
http://jpress.org.il/Olive/APA/NLI/?action=tab&tab=browse&pub=TJM .

Thanks.

Steve Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com
Re: Where is Petrisorul #general

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Werner!
As I understand Your relative was a serviceman of Austrian or
German army who was killed in battle with Russian or Romanian troops.
Petrisorul now is Lunca Petrisorului - a city located in Province
Buzau, Romania - about 72 mi (or 115 km) North-East of Bucharest, the
country's capital town.

Regards,
Igor Holyboroda,
Lviv, Ukraine.

---
From: Werner Hirsch <wernerh@snet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015

I have a record that says that a relative of mine, Ludwig DAVIDSBURG,
was killed on 22 Dec. 1916 during WWI in a battle at Petrisorul,
Romania. The record is hand-written but the name of the town is
*very* clear. I have been able to find a few references to this town
on the Internet, but none which indicate where this town is located or
what its name might be today. I would greatly appreciate any help.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Where is Petrisorul #general

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Werner!
As I understand Your relative was a serviceman of Austrian or
German army who was killed in battle with Russian or Romanian troops.
Petrisorul now is Lunca Petrisorului - a city located in Province
Buzau, Romania - about 72 mi (or 115 km) North-East of Bucharest, the
country's capital town.

Regards,
Igor Holyboroda,
Lviv, Ukraine.

---
From: Werner Hirsch <wernerh@snet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015

I have a record that says that a relative of mine, Ludwig DAVIDSBURG,
was killed on 22 Dec. 1916 during WWI in a battle at Petrisorul,
Romania. The record is hand-written but the name of the town is
*very* clear. I have been able to find a few references to this town
on the Internet, but none which indicate where this town is located or
what its name might be today. I would greatly appreciate any help.
Re: Jaffes in Istanbul #sephardic

Jeff at SG
 

I searched in my databases of Sephardic surnames

http://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/indexSrchFrm.html

And found that there were Jaffe families in Istanbul and also in Spain. See

https://tinyurl.com/qjsjoh4

I "suspect" this particular Jaffe may have been Ashkenazi and not Sephardic
because of the formulation "ha-Ashkenazi" ("the" Ashkenazi). The Sephardic
families named Ashkenazi that I know of are just named Ashkenazi, not "the"
Ashkenazi. But that is just a guess on my part.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Malka, M.D.
"Sephardic Genealogy", 2nd ed., Avotaynu, 2009
Website: http://www.SephardicGen.com

I try to trace back my Jaffa/Huebsch/Halasz family. According to the
> family legend, our Huebsch/Halasz family's ancestor was Samuel Jaffe
> HaAshkenazi who was a rabbi in Istambul in the early 16th century.
Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Jaffes in Istanbul #sephardic

Jeff at SG
 

I searched in my databases of Sephardic surnames

http://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/indexSrchFrm.html

And found that there were Jaffe families in Istanbul and also in Spain. See

https://tinyurl.com/qjsjoh4

I "suspect" this particular Jaffe may have been Ashkenazi and not Sephardic
because of the formulation "ha-Ashkenazi" ("the" Ashkenazi). The Sephardic
families named Ashkenazi that I know of are just named Ashkenazi, not "the"
Ashkenazi. But that is just a guess on my part.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Malka, M.D.
"Sephardic Genealogy", 2nd ed., Avotaynu, 2009
Website: http://www.SephardicGen.com

I try to trace back my Jaffa/Huebsch/Halasz family. According to the
> family legend, our Huebsch/Halasz family's ancestor was Samuel Jaffe
> HaAshkenazi who was a rabbi in Istambul in the early 16th century.
Re: Bessarabian Cemeteries... where is the list? #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear researchers,

Sorry, but I missed one part to navigate to the inventory of all
cemeteries...

I wrote:
- go to www.jewishgen.org, and under Databases click on Burial Registry
(JOWBR) - this is where the inventory of all cemeteries worked on.

In fact after you clicked on JOWBR, you need to click on "Contents of the
Database", it is about 1/3 of the page >from the top on the left side.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Bessarabia SIG [mailto:bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:03 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Bessarabian Cemeteries... where is the list?

Dear researchers,

I realized recently that many of our members do not know where at
JewishGen.org to find a list of all Cemeteries indexed or/and photographed.
I received a number of messages asking if we did any work at a such and such
cemetery.

So, let's find out where is a list of all cemeteries:

- go to www.jewishgen.org, and under Databases click on Burial Registry
(JOWBR) - this is where the inventory of all cemeteries worked on.
- The inventory is created by CURRENT countries (you will not find a country
Bessarabia there!).

- Our region as you may know was divided in 20c and now located in TWO
countries: Moldova and Ukraine.

- Country: Moldova (17 cemeteries, 31364 burials). Under Moldova you will
see 2 Regions: Bessarabia (15 cemeteries) and Kherson (2 cemeteries).
- Country: Ukraine, click on Region: Bessarabia (5 cemeteries, 3584
burials) (Actually there are 4 cemeteries: Kilia and Kiliya - the same
town, it is a duplication).

Also keep in mind that JewishGen / JOWBR updates the website two times a
year, the FOUR cemeteries we completed in August and September will appear
in JOWBR and on that list in the beginning of 2016. For these cemeteries
you can see Cemetery reports, also Unknown Graves at Bessarabia SIG website.

I suggest to read Bessarabia SIG Monthly updates, other postings where you
may find new information about cemetery projects in progress.

There are total of about 70 cemeteries where Jews were buried in
Bessarabia/Moldova, and with your help we will index and photograph ALL of
them in a near future!

Here are also 2 rules we developed:
1) If you want to get a full LIST of burials in a cemetery we completed, for
a donation of $100, you will get it, and also if you find your ancestors, we
will send you photos, sometimes we may have 2-3 photos of a gravestone, and
JOWBR will display of course only one. We can send you this even before the
index/photos appear at JOWBR.
I should say that many people made donations and received the complete list
and photos.

2) If your cemetery IS NOT yet completed and the work is not in progress,
you can INITIATE a new cemetery project by collecting among people you may
know or related to that town, about 30% of approximate cost (we are paying
for photos).
I should say that majority of cemetery projects started in 2014-2015 are
done this way.

Of course if you cemetery is in work, please make a donation. You can find
Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery project at the donation list, and also there are
several other cemetery projects on that list.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Bessarabian Cemeteries... where is the list? #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear researchers,

Sorry, but I missed one part to navigate to the inventory of all
cemeteries...

I wrote:
- go to www.jewishgen.org, and under Databases click on Burial Registry
(JOWBR) - this is where the inventory of all cemeteries worked on.

In fact after you clicked on JOWBR, you need to click on "Contents of the
Database", it is about 1/3 of the page >from the top on the left side.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Bessarabia SIG [mailto:bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:03 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Bessarabian Cemeteries... where is the list?

Dear researchers,

I realized recently that many of our members do not know where at
JewishGen.org to find a list of all Cemeteries indexed or/and photographed.
I received a number of messages asking if we did any work at a such and such
cemetery.

So, let's find out where is a list of all cemeteries:

- go to www.jewishgen.org, and under Databases click on Burial Registry
(JOWBR) - this is where the inventory of all cemeteries worked on.
- The inventory is created by CURRENT countries (you will not find a country
Bessarabia there!).

- Our region as you may know was divided in 20c and now located in TWO
countries: Moldova and Ukraine.

- Country: Moldova (17 cemeteries, 31364 burials). Under Moldova you will
see 2 Regions: Bessarabia (15 cemeteries) and Kherson (2 cemeteries).
- Country: Ukraine, click on Region: Bessarabia (5 cemeteries, 3584
burials) (Actually there are 4 cemeteries: Kilia and Kiliya - the same
town, it is a duplication).

Also keep in mind that JewishGen / JOWBR updates the website two times a
year, the FOUR cemeteries we completed in August and September will appear
in JOWBR and on that list in the beginning of 2016. For these cemeteries
you can see Cemetery reports, also Unknown Graves at Bessarabia SIG website.

I suggest to read Bessarabia SIG Monthly updates, other postings where you
may find new information about cemetery projects in progress.

There are total of about 70 cemeteries where Jews were buried in
Bessarabia/Moldova, and with your help we will index and photograph ALL of
them in a near future!

Here are also 2 rules we developed:
1) If you want to get a full LIST of burials in a cemetery we completed, for
a donation of $100, you will get it, and also if you find your ancestors, we
will send you photos, sometimes we may have 2-3 photos of a gravestone, and
JOWBR will display of course only one. We can send you this even before the
index/photos appear at JOWBR.
I should say that many people made donations and received the complete list
and photos.

2) If your cemetery IS NOT yet completed and the work is not in progress,
you can INITIATE a new cemetery project by collecting among people you may
know or related to that town, about 30% of approximate cost (we are paying
for photos).
I should say that majority of cemetery projects started in 2014-2015 are
done this way.

Of course if you cemetery is in work, please make a donation. You can find
Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery project at the donation list, and also there are
several other cemetery projects on that list.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
Post on ViewMate #ukraine

yael polat
 

Shalom to all Genners,
I've posted a vital record in German, for which I need a translation.
Actually, I don't need a full translation, Google is very helpful in
it. But I do need a transliteration to printed German. This is a vital
record >from Desden, 1902, and the handwriting is so calligraphied and
gothic, that I cannot read it. I posted one page although I got some
ten pages. But I guess, I hope, that if you help me with one page,
I"ll manage easier with the other pages.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42588
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much,
Yael Polat
ISRAEL
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Post on ViewMate #ukraine

yael polat
 

Shalom to all Genners,
I've posted a vital record in German, for which I need a translation.
Actually, I don't need a full translation, Google is very helpful in
it. But I do need a transliteration to printed German. This is a vital
record >from Desden, 1902, and the handwriting is so calligraphied and
gothic, that I cannot read it. I posted one page although I got some
ten pages. But I guess, I hope, that if you help me with one page,
I"ll manage easier with the other pages.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42588
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much,
Yael Polat
ISRAEL
Re: JOSEPH family, Kirn, Germany > Colombia #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Thank you, Lisa!

I'm amazed. I searched for the Jewish cemetery, Cali, but in
English. I wonder if the younger brother, Rolf Joseph, is still
living. he would be about 90 yrs old. And I wonder if either
brother left descendants.

More hunting. thanks again.

Barbara Mannlein
(who will contact the Sociedad Hebrea de Socorros tomorrow. )

Thank

On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Lisa Grayson <lisa@publica.com> wrote:

Barbara Mannlein asked for help with locating "Sally (?Salomon) (b.1896)
and Melitta Stern Joseph and sons Erich (b.1925) and Rolf (b.1926)."

I found a website for Cementerio Israelita, the Jewish cemetery in Cali:
http://cementeriohebreodecali.com. You can search for headstones under
"búsqueda lápidas": http://cementeriohebreodecali.com/busqueda-lapidas
...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: JOSEPH family, Kirn, Germany > Colombia #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Thank you, Lisa!

I'm amazed. I searched for the Jewish cemetery, Cali, but in
English. I wonder if the younger brother, Rolf Joseph, is still
living. he would be about 90 yrs old. And I wonder if either
brother left descendants.

More hunting. thanks again.

Barbara Mannlein
(who will contact the Sociedad Hebrea de Socorros tomorrow. )

Thank

On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Lisa Grayson <lisa@publica.com> wrote:

Barbara Mannlein asked for help with locating "Sally (?Salomon) (b.1896)
and Melitta Stern Joseph and sons Erich (b.1925) and Rolf (b.1926)."

I found a website for Cementerio Israelita, the Jewish cemetery in Cali:
http://cementeriohebreodecali.com. You can search for headstones under
"búsqueda lápidas": http://cementeriohebreodecali.com/busqueda-lapidas
...
Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto Oct 21, 2015 Meeting -Using Yizkor Books #general

Valerie Fox
 

JGS Toronto presents:

Topic: Using Yizkor Books to Enhance your Family History

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015
Place: Temple Sinai
210 Wilson Avenue, Toronto

Time: 8:00 p.m. (doors open at 7:30 p.m.)

Speaker: Myrna Nueringer Levy, a member of JGS Toronto, will give an
overview of what Yizkor Books are and where to find them. She will
demonstrate how using the Yizkor book about Borszczow, the
Galician shtetl where her father was born, expanded her understanding of the
life he and his parents had led there. Her illustrations will be taken >from
photographs her grandfather took on a return
visit to Borszczow in 1933. This material is in Myrna's new book, Shattered
Stones, Scattered Seeds: The Story of a Shtetl and a Family Who Lived There.

She has three published books for children as well as a family memoir.

Cost: Free to Members, suggested $5.00 for non members

For further information: info@jgstoronto.ca or www.jgstoronto.ca or
telephone 647-247-6414

Hope to see you there.

Valerie Miller Fox
Publicity and Mentoring Coordinator
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto Oct 21, 2015 Meeting -Using Yizkor Books #general

Valerie Fox
 

JGS Toronto presents:

Topic: Using Yizkor Books to Enhance your Family History

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015
Place: Temple Sinai
210 Wilson Avenue, Toronto

Time: 8:00 p.m. (doors open at 7:30 p.m.)

Speaker: Myrna Nueringer Levy, a member of JGS Toronto, will give an
overview of what Yizkor Books are and where to find them. She will
demonstrate how using the Yizkor book about Borszczow, the
Galician shtetl where her father was born, expanded her understanding of the
life he and his parents had led there. Her illustrations will be taken >from
photographs her grandfather took on a return
visit to Borszczow in 1933. This material is in Myrna's new book, Shattered
Stones, Scattered Seeds: The Story of a Shtetl and a Family Who Lived There.

She has three published books for children as well as a family memoir.

Cost: Free to Members, suggested $5.00 for non members

For further information: info@jgstoronto.ca or www.jgstoronto.ca or
telephone 647-247-6414

Hope to see you there.

Valerie Miller Fox
Publicity and Mentoring Coordinator
Battonya cemetery #hungary

patbaudoin@...
 

Hello,=20
I look for information on the cemetery of Battonya . This cemetery is close=
d by a fence , it's impossible to enter. Do you know a contact or a keeper ?=
I would like to visit the cemetery in 2016. Anna Schlesinger, my great gran=
d mother is probably buried there in 1902.Thank you.
Best regards

Patrick

Moderator: There is some information about the cemetery at
http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/hungary/battonya-bekes.html
Hungary SIG #Hungary Battonya cemetery #hungary

patbaudoin@...
 

Hello,=20
I look for information on the cemetery of Battonya . This cemetery is close=
d by a fence , it's impossible to enter. Do you know a contact or a keeper ?=
I would like to visit the cemetery in 2016. Anna Schlesinger, my great gran=
d mother is probably buried there in 1902.Thank you.
Best regards

Patrick

Moderator: There is some information about the cemetery at
http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/hungary/battonya-bekes.html
Where is Petrisorul #general

Werner Hirsch
 

I have a record that says that a relative of mine, Ludwig DAVIDSBURG,
was killed on 22 Dec. 1916 during WWI in a battle at Petrisorul,
Romania. The record is hand-written but the name of the town is
*very* clear. I have been able to find a few references to this town
on the Internet, but none which indicate where this town is located or
what its name might be today. I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks.

Werner HIRSCH
New Haven, CT
wernerh@snet.net
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Petrisorul #general

Werner Hirsch
 

I have a record that says that a relative of mine, Ludwig DAVIDSBURG,
was killed on 22 Dec. 1916 during WWI in a battle at Petrisorul,
Romania. The record is hand-written but the name of the town is
*very* clear. I have been able to find a few references to this town
on the Internet, but none which indicate where this town is located or
what its name might be today. I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks.

Werner HIRSCH
New Haven, CT
wernerh@snet.net
Re: A snippet of information about the Gedenkbuch of the Bundesarchiv #general

Joachim Mugdan
 

Alexander Watson wrote:

With reference to the Gedenkbuch of the Bundesarchiv: people replying
to my requests for information often indicate that "Holocaust victims
listed in the Gedenkbuch are only >from areas that are currently
Germany". This always puzzled me slightly ...
As the introduction to the second edition of 2006 states, the first edition
of 1986 covered only what was then the Federal Republic (West Germany) and
Berlin (East and West), whereas the second edition (and the online version)
covers the entire German empire in the borders of 31 Dec 1937. In addition
to victims who lived in Germany when they were deported, the Gedenkbuch
includes some who were expelled by the Nazis to Poland and France or
emigrated to neighbouring countries and were deported >from there.
--
Joachim Mugdan
Basel, Switzerland (JGFF Researcher 5749)
SOE (Special Operations Executive) Operation Boatswain 18 May 1941 #general

Saul Issroff
 

Operation Boatswain Casualties

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission have now finally officially
added the names of the parents of these men and their addresses - so
for most it is clear they are >from Israel (then Palestine under
British Mandate) - who died on the SOE Operation Botswain 18th May
1941, to the web site <cwgc.org>, and soon to the Memorial at
Brookwood in Surrey <http://tinyurl.com/n9myqox>. This commemorates
3,500 men and women of the forces of the British Commonwealth "to whom
the fortunes of war denied a known and honoured grave"
Some names are spelt differently in transliteration >from Hebrew names
so these are listed below for your reference. It has taken several
years to get to this point but now it is done. Surnames first. They have been
given the rank of Volunteer. It is obvious that some of these names
have the forenames and surnames reversed.

UTCHITEL, Shimon
SPECTOR, Zvi
EIZEN, Arieh
VEIMAN, Ephraim
ARIEH, Gelbert
WEISMAN, Haim
HANOVITZ, Samuel
TEMES, Ariel
JACOBSON, Baruch
NORDEN, Israel
NURIEL, Abraham
NAFHA,David
YOFEH, Katriel
GORDON, Jacob
HECKER, Isaac
PAGLIN, Nerial
PLONCHIK, Mordehai
ZERNER, Yehuda
KOPLER, Gershon
KURAKIN, Menahem
ROTMAN, Ze'ev
SHOHET, Amiram
COHEN, Mordechai

This information was provided by Martin Sugarman (AJEX)

Saul Issroff
93261 - 93280 of 668775