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What are these Russian towns #general

Carol Zsolnay <czsolnay@...>
 

I have searched the JewGen site, but cannot find the current names of these
towns in Russia in 1929:

Gorod Rodemissel, Russia (surname RAWITCH)
Triyanoff Volinsky, Russia (surname GLIGATCH)

Write if you know the current names and locations of the towns--especially
with these family names.


Thanks,

Carol Adler Zsolnay at czsolnay@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What are these Russian towns #general

Carol Zsolnay <czsolnay@...>
 

I have searched the JewGen site, but cannot find the current names of these
towns in Russia in 1929:

Gorod Rodemissel, Russia (surname RAWITCH)
Triyanoff Volinsky, Russia (surname GLIGATCH)

Write if you know the current names and locations of the towns--especially
with these family names.


Thanks,

Carol Adler Zsolnay at czsolnay@...
"Mother Father Deaf" problem #general

Jonathan Khuner <jkhuner@...>
 

5/17/00

Were hearing (ie normal) children of deaf [Jewish] parents
ever/often/routinely removed >from their families and put in foster homes or
orphanages, in New York City, ca 1900-1920?

The progeny of an uncle >from three generations back have disappeared, and it
seems to be because, since both he and his wife were totally deaf, their
children (10 to 12 in number!) were simply removed. These many kids are said
by family legend to have been "taken away" so as to be raised in hearing
families, and not be denied the chance to learn to speak. I have no idea if
this was indeed a legal practice, a cultural reality, a historical
possibility, a family myth, or a fabrication to cover some other
circumstance. If there was such a practice, did it involve any legal
procedure? (The New York City Clerk Adoptions file has no record of matching
name in the relevant time period.) Was it done by the authorities or by
family consensus? Was it a civil matter, or did the Jewish community have
strong notions and perhaps rabbinical policies in certain segments of the
religious community? (Jewish law is definitely not welcoming of the deaf,
its harshness seeming to rest on deeming the ability to recite prayers as
essential to membership in the community.)

My preliminary searches in literature by and about the deaf community have
turned up nothing about such child confiscation, although there is much
discussion, and even a small trove of books, about the complication of the
intergenerational "incompatibility" experienced by children with "mother
father deaf", as a particular instance of the lamentable alienation from
ones own society that deafness generally causes. (This could be compared to
the experience of Jews in general over the millenia, although I have not
encountered such a discussion in the literature.)

Perhaps some of my JewishGen colleagues have [Jewish] contacts in the deaf
community who might know some answers or avenues of research. Is there by
chance any Jewish genealogist out there connected with Gallaudet University?
Any living links to the Jewish deaf community of 80 years ago?

By the way, the uncle in question (Pinkus "Stumme" KOSSOFF, tailor) is
recalled to have been very lively, using both sign language and a
pseudo-sign mimetic language, very skilled in sleight of hand, an
enthusiastic dancer (feeling the vibrations of the music through the floor),
as well as a prolific parent. His wife Rose taught at a school for the deaf,
and they were both long-time New Yorkers, though he was born in Belarus in
1875. I found them in a couple of the censuses, but their children are
missing.

Jonathan Khuner

jkhuner@...
Oakland, CA

Researching: BEILER, BLAU, BUCHBINDER, EIBUSCHITZ, FRANKL, HERZ, JOKL,
KAFKA, KHUNER, KRASNY, KUHNER, KULKA, LICHTENSTADT, POSAMENTIER, PIRAK,
SALZER, SELTER (Budejovice, Bzenec, Damborice, Moravska Ostrava, Wien);
BEILER (Sidney); BASKIND, BORISOFF,DINOFF, DINOFSKY, FOGEL, GLABOFF,
GLIBOFF, HIESENZWEIG HOODOFF, LIPKIN, MAPOU, REAVEN, SELIGMAN, SKOROHODOV,
SLATIN, TURIN (Gomel, New York)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Mother Father Deaf" problem #general

Jonathan Khuner <jkhuner@...>
 

5/17/00

Were hearing (ie normal) children of deaf [Jewish] parents
ever/often/routinely removed >from their families and put in foster homes or
orphanages, in New York City, ca 1900-1920?

The progeny of an uncle >from three generations back have disappeared, and it
seems to be because, since both he and his wife were totally deaf, their
children (10 to 12 in number!) were simply removed. These many kids are said
by family legend to have been "taken away" so as to be raised in hearing
families, and not be denied the chance to learn to speak. I have no idea if
this was indeed a legal practice, a cultural reality, a historical
possibility, a family myth, or a fabrication to cover some other
circumstance. If there was such a practice, did it involve any legal
procedure? (The New York City Clerk Adoptions file has no record of matching
name in the relevant time period.) Was it done by the authorities or by
family consensus? Was it a civil matter, or did the Jewish community have
strong notions and perhaps rabbinical policies in certain segments of the
religious community? (Jewish law is definitely not welcoming of the deaf,
its harshness seeming to rest on deeming the ability to recite prayers as
essential to membership in the community.)

My preliminary searches in literature by and about the deaf community have
turned up nothing about such child confiscation, although there is much
discussion, and even a small trove of books, about the complication of the
intergenerational "incompatibility" experienced by children with "mother
father deaf", as a particular instance of the lamentable alienation from
ones own society that deafness generally causes. (This could be compared to
the experience of Jews in general over the millenia, although I have not
encountered such a discussion in the literature.)

Perhaps some of my JewishGen colleagues have [Jewish] contacts in the deaf
community who might know some answers or avenues of research. Is there by
chance any Jewish genealogist out there connected with Gallaudet University?
Any living links to the Jewish deaf community of 80 years ago?

By the way, the uncle in question (Pinkus "Stumme" KOSSOFF, tailor) is
recalled to have been very lively, using both sign language and a
pseudo-sign mimetic language, very skilled in sleight of hand, an
enthusiastic dancer (feeling the vibrations of the music through the floor),
as well as a prolific parent. His wife Rose taught at a school for the deaf,
and they were both long-time New Yorkers, though he was born in Belarus in
1875. I found them in a couple of the censuses, but their children are
missing.

Jonathan Khuner

jkhuner@...
Oakland, CA

Researching: BEILER, BLAU, BUCHBINDER, EIBUSCHITZ, FRANKL, HERZ, JOKL,
KAFKA, KHUNER, KRASNY, KUHNER, KULKA, LICHTENSTADT, POSAMENTIER, PIRAK,
SALZER, SELTER (Budejovice, Bzenec, Damborice, Moravska Ostrava, Wien);
BEILER (Sidney); BASKIND, BORISOFF,DINOFF, DINOFSKY, FOGEL, GLABOFF,
GLIBOFF, HIESENZWEIG HOODOFF, LIPKIN, MAPOU, REAVEN, SELIGMAN, SKOROHODOV,
SLATIN, TURIN (Gomel, New York)
Open Invitation: Jewish Genealogy Crash Course in Tel Aviv June 19 - June 21 #general

Zorro <Zorro@...>
 

This is a plea! I am accompanying a group of American college students
on the first leg of a study abroad program in Israel and will have
three days in Tel Aviv with some free time >from Monday June 19
Wednesday June 21.

I would like to take a crash course in Jewish genealogy at the
Douglas Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center and have managed to get so far
as to have the offer of a two-day ten hour seminar >from the Marketing
Director of the Center. I am looking for people who would be
interested in joining me for and sharing the costs of such a seminar.
If you are interested, please contact Cheryl Lester at
chlester@... right away!

Prof. Cheryl Lester
chlester@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately for details. Letter deleted
due to advertising.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Open Invitation: Jewish Genealogy Crash Course in Tel Aviv June 19 - June 21 #general

Zorro <Zorro@...>
 

This is a plea! I am accompanying a group of American college students
on the first leg of a study abroad program in Israel and will have
three days in Tel Aviv with some free time >from Monday June 19
Wednesday June 21.

I would like to take a crash course in Jewish genealogy at the
Douglas Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center and have managed to get so far
as to have the offer of a two-day ten hour seminar >from the Marketing
Director of the Center. I am looking for people who would be
interested in joining me for and sharing the costs of such a seminar.
If you are interested, please contact Cheryl Lester at
chlester@... right away!

Prof. Cheryl Lester
chlester@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately for details. Letter deleted
due to advertising.
An Argentine member spoke in Tel Aviv Jewish Genealogical Association #general

A.G.J.A. (Genealogia) <genarg@...>
 

Jewishgenners:
Last tuesday, May 16, one member of our Society Mrs Monica Caro gave a
lecture in Tel Aviv Genealogical Society in the Beth Hatefusoth bulding,
about Argentine Jewry:
At first she explained about Argentina, then the history of the Jews there,
the Jewish
organisations, what and where we can find the information.
The audience' interest all evening, and was asked a lot of
genealogical questions, to all of which she gave the full answers.
I was the first presentation of Argentina's Jewish genealogy in Israel in a
conference.
The lecture, will be print in Hebrew and English in the israeli new journal
Megilla, soon edited by the Tel Aviv Society.
We received the invitation to continue speaking to Israel, more about the
subject.

Salt Lake City Seminar:
Unfortunatelly no any delegate >from Argentine will be in Salt Lake Seminar
but we
will be in London 2001 Seminar where we are invited to speak about
Argentine.
Previously we had a panel in Los Angeles Seminar and later a workshop in New
York, so London will be out third official conference in Seminars


In our site.
http://www.marben.com.ar/agja
you will see some news , since we beginning to put an index of lastnames of
several cemeteries in Buenos Aires, and the marriages celebrated in
Community Chalom >from sepharad people >from Turkey, Greece, Rhodes and
Balkans. Today there only few letters and three cemeteries but we will
continue adding more information

Regards
Paul Armony
Pressident
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen An Argentine member spoke in Tel Aviv Jewish Genealogical Association #general

A.G.J.A. (Genealogia) <genarg@...>
 

Jewishgenners:
Last tuesday, May 16, one member of our Society Mrs Monica Caro gave a
lecture in Tel Aviv Genealogical Society in the Beth Hatefusoth bulding,
about Argentine Jewry:
At first she explained about Argentina, then the history of the Jews there,
the Jewish
organisations, what and where we can find the information.
The audience' interest all evening, and was asked a lot of
genealogical questions, to all of which she gave the full answers.
I was the first presentation of Argentina's Jewish genealogy in Israel in a
conference.
The lecture, will be print in Hebrew and English in the israeli new journal
Megilla, soon edited by the Tel Aviv Society.
We received the invitation to continue speaking to Israel, more about the
subject.

Salt Lake City Seminar:
Unfortunatelly no any delegate >from Argentine will be in Salt Lake Seminar
but we
will be in London 2001 Seminar where we are invited to speak about
Argentine.
Previously we had a panel in Los Angeles Seminar and later a workshop in New
York, so London will be out third official conference in Seminars


In our site.
http://www.marben.com.ar/agja
you will see some news , since we beginning to put an index of lastnames of
several cemeteries in Buenos Aires, and the marriages celebrated in
Community Chalom >from sepharad people >from Turkey, Greece, Rhodes and
Balkans. Today there only few letters and three cemeteries but we will
continue adding more information

Regards
Paul Armony
Pressident
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
A question about sharing genealogical information. #general

Algaze@...
 

Sharing Genealogical Information.

How much information can I add to MY family tree that I get >from
another researcher? Suppose I have information on my Jenny Cohn
back to her great grandfather. Jenny Cohn married Samuel Levy.
However I don't have any information about Samuel Levy.

Suppose I come in contact with another researcher who has been
researching the Levy line back to Samuel's great grandfather.
If he sends me the information that he has, can I add that to my
family tree? What about if he has information about Samuel's aunts
and uncles, their marriages, and their descendants? Can I also add
information that is not a direct line back >from Samuel Levy?

I don't know what the protocol is here.

Barbara Algaze
Los Angeles, California

Searching for: ALEXANDER, ARON, BETTER, CHIZNER, DANIEL,
FEIBUSCH, FREUND, GOETZ, GUTFELD(T), JOEL (or YOEL),
KANTOROWITZ, KRONHEIM, KUTTNER, LEBURG, LEDERMANN,
LEWINSKI, MORRISON, PINCUS, STERNBERG, TREUENFELS, WOLFF, WOLFHEIM
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A question about sharing genealogical information. #general

Algaze@...
 

Sharing Genealogical Information.

How much information can I add to MY family tree that I get >from
another researcher? Suppose I have information on my Jenny Cohn
back to her great grandfather. Jenny Cohn married Samuel Levy.
However I don't have any information about Samuel Levy.

Suppose I come in contact with another researcher who has been
researching the Levy line back to Samuel's great grandfather.
If he sends me the information that he has, can I add that to my
family tree? What about if he has information about Samuel's aunts
and uncles, their marriages, and their descendants? Can I also add
information that is not a direct line back >from Samuel Levy?

I don't know what the protocol is here.

Barbara Algaze
Los Angeles, California

Searching for: ALEXANDER, ARON, BETTER, CHIZNER, DANIEL,
FEIBUSCH, FREUND, GOETZ, GUTFELD(T), JOEL (or YOEL),
KANTOROWITZ, KRONHEIM, KUTTNER, LEBURG, LEDERMANN,
LEWINSKI, MORRISON, PINCUS, STERNBERG, TREUENFELS, WOLFF, WOLFHEIM
Russia Fur & Tanning Co. of Milwaukee, Wisc. #general

sjlustig@...
 

Does someone know how to contact or archive this business? The time period I
need is 1888-1917.

Thank you in advance and please reply privately.

Marge Lustig
sjlustig@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russia Fur & Tanning Co. of Milwaukee, Wisc. #general

sjlustig@...
 

Does someone know how to contact or archive this business? The time period I
need is 1888-1917.

Thank you in advance and please reply privately.

Marge Lustig
sjlustig@...
Help with finding street in Radom, Poland #general

sharon cooper
 

Dear fellow Jewishgenners

I found a listing of my greatgrandmother's address in
Radom, Poland around 1923 , listed as "Dluga 3".
However I cannot find this street on any maps, old or
current of Radom. The closest I get is Dlugajowska,
but I've been told this is not the same. Her address
was in a business directory, and the same street was
mentionned a few times, so I don't think it's an
error.
How can I find this street? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely, Sharon Cooper, Ottawa, Canada
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with finding street in Radom, Poland #general

sharon cooper
 

Dear fellow Jewishgenners

I found a listing of my greatgrandmother's address in
Radom, Poland around 1923 , listed as "Dluga 3".
However I cannot find this street on any maps, old or
current of Radom. The closest I get is Dlugajowska,
but I've been told this is not the same. Her address
was in a business directory, and the same street was
mentionned a few times, so I don't think it's an
error.
How can I find this street? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely, Sharon Cooper, Ottawa, Canada
Re: What is origin of the name Galicia? #galicia

JEisenbrg@...
 

from Encyclopedia Britannica:
Incorporated into Kievan Rus by Vladimir I (Grand Prince Vladimir) in 981,
eastern Galicia (also called Red Ruthenia, or Red Rus), being the country
around Halicz (Galich, or Galych) on the upper Dniester, east of the Zbruch
confluent and west of the headwaters of the San River, became an independent
principality in 1087; during the next century it developed into a rich and
powerful principality. In 1199 Prince Roman of Volhynia, invited by the
Galician boyars (noblemen), ascended the throne in Halicz and united under
his power both Volhynia (or Lodomeria) and Galicia in 1200.

For full article, go to <http://www.britannica.com/> (be sure to spell
Britannica correctly, I always try Brittanica first) and in the tiny little
"Find" box at the top of the page enter Galicia and then select the option
for Eastern Europe. This will lead you to the full article.

Jonathan Eisenberg
Minnetonka, Minnesota
<JEisenbrg@...>
Search for Irving/Dottie SIEGEL or relatives #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

If anyone knows the whereabouts of the Irving and Dottie SIEGEL family,
formerly of Long Beach, NY, please contact us.

Thank you.

Yeruchem and Fraida Cohen
Researching:
COHEN/HODES(S): Kiev, Odessa; Plattsburgh, NY
POMERANTZ: Baranov,Tarnow, Warsaw; Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH: Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARCUS): Pultusk; New York, Bronx, NY
HARRIS: Warsaw; New York, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Austria-Hungary;" New York, NY
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: What is origin of the name Galicia? #galicia

JEisenbrg@...
 

from Encyclopedia Britannica:
Incorporated into Kievan Rus by Vladimir I (Grand Prince Vladimir) in 981,
eastern Galicia (also called Red Ruthenia, or Red Rus), being the country
around Halicz (Galich, or Galych) on the upper Dniester, east of the Zbruch
confluent and west of the headwaters of the San River, became an independent
principality in 1087; during the next century it developed into a rich and
powerful principality. In 1199 Prince Roman of Volhynia, invited by the
Galician boyars (noblemen), ascended the throne in Halicz and united under
his power both Volhynia (or Lodomeria) and Galicia in 1200.

For full article, go to <http://www.britannica.com/> (be sure to spell
Britannica correctly, I always try Brittanica first) and in the tiny little
"Find" box at the top of the page enter Galicia and then select the option
for Eastern Europe. This will lead you to the full article.

Jonathan Eisenberg
Minnetonka, Minnesota
<JEisenbrg@...>
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search for Irving/Dottie SIEGEL or relatives #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

If anyone knows the whereabouts of the Irving and Dottie SIEGEL family,
formerly of Long Beach, NY, please contact us.

Thank you.

Yeruchem and Fraida Cohen
Researching:
COHEN/HODES(S): Kiev, Odessa; Plattsburgh, NY
POMERANTZ: Baranov,Tarnow, Warsaw; Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH: Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARCUS): Pultusk; New York, Bronx, NY
HARRIS: Warsaw; New York, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Austria-Hungary;" New York, NY
Looks ups at IAJGS Conference #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Is anyone able to do some research for us during the conference?

Yeruchem and Fraida Cohen
Reseraching:
COHEN/HODES(S): Kiev, Odessa; Plattsburgh, NY
POMERAN(T)Z: Baranov,Tarnow or Tarnowbrzeg, Warsaw; Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH: Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARCUS): Pultusk; New York, Bronx, NY
HARRIS: Warsaw; New York, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Austria-Hungary;" New York, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looks ups at IAJGS Conference #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Is anyone able to do some research for us during the conference?

Yeruchem and Fraida Cohen
Reseraching:
COHEN/HODES(S): Kiev, Odessa; Plattsburgh, NY
POMERAN(T)Z: Baranov,Tarnow or Tarnowbrzeg, Warsaw; Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH: Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARCUS): Pultusk; New York, Bronx, NY
HARRIS: Warsaw; New York, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Austria-Hungary;" New York, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.
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