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Re: SSDI Records pre 1960 #general

Ernest Fine <efine@...>
 

The records are generated by the SSA; they issue a monthly CD-ROM
containing the information. They call it the Death Master File. Anyone can
purchase a subscription to the CD-ROM, but the price is a bit steep $1,725
a copy or $6,900 for a one-year subscription. Personally, I think I'll
continue to use RootsWeb or Ancestry...

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA

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From: Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: SSDI Records pre 1960


I really do not want to get into an argument over the SSDI files but I was
led to believe that they were generated by the Social Security Officewhich
I think is still a branch of the US Government.
Additionally, my GF who died in May 1946 is listed in the SSDI files.

Len Pincus

Researching: SCHALLER, SPIEGEL, ROTH, SCHWARTZ, WEINSTEIN and KRASNAPOLSKY


Research of an American soldier, killed during WWII #general

Pierre KOGAN
 

I'm interested to have some informations concerning a young American
soldier, who was killed during WWII, perhaps in Italy.
First name unknown, family name: STRAUS.
He had a twin, Hansi Straus, and their mother was born Olga Reichner;
she was cousin of my father-in-law.
Thanks, PK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI Records pre 1960 #general

Ernest Fine <efine@...>
 

The records are generated by the SSA; they issue a monthly CD-ROM
containing the information. They call it the Death Master File. Anyone can
purchase a subscription to the CD-ROM, but the price is a bit steep $1,725
a copy or $6,900 for a one-year subscription. Personally, I think I'll
continue to use RootsWeb or Ancestry...

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA

----- Original Message -----
From: Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: SSDI Records pre 1960


I really do not want to get into an argument over the SSDI files but I was
led to believe that they were generated by the Social Security Officewhich
I think is still a branch of the US Government.
Additionally, my GF who died in May 1946 is listed in the SSDI files.

Len Pincus

Researching: SCHALLER, SPIEGEL, ROTH, SCHWARTZ, WEINSTEIN and KRASNAPOLSKY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research of an American soldier, killed during WWII #general

Pierre KOGAN
 

I'm interested to have some informations concerning a young American
soldier, who was killed during WWII, perhaps in Italy.
First name unknown, family name: STRAUS.
He had a twin, Hansi Straus, and their mother was born Olga Reichner;
she was cousin of my father-in-law.
Thanks, PK


Ansonia Connecticut #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

I just learned that my family has had some relatives in Ansonia Conn.
during the 1920's.

Can someone tell me about the Jewish population of the town at about 1920?
The family name or those relatives might be Grossman, Gruszka or Florek.

Thanks for any help.

Shmuel Fisher


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ansonia Connecticut #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

I just learned that my family has had some relatives in Ansonia Conn.
during the 1920's.

Can someone tell me about the Jewish population of the town at about 1920?
The family name or those relatives might be Grossman, Gruszka or Florek.

Thanks for any help.

Shmuel Fisher


Some Insights, Please #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Bennett:

I have several brick-wall ancestral lines for which there are living family
members in either the Y-chromosome or mtDNA lines. I would like to arrange
for their testing to put them in the data base, in the hope that someone else
may someday match them, and provide some additional clues as to where the
ancestor originated.

Before asking them if they are willing to be tested, however, I would like to
know how lasting the data base is likely to be. In contrast to paper or
microfilm records, I quite frankly don't have a great deal of confidence that
most existing digital data will be preserved by migrating it to new platforms
beyond one or two generations of new technologies.

As a possibly more enduring approach, are your results expressed in terms
that could be included in a published genealogy (the same as we include
documents that help establish the identity of a person), and be useful to
someone who may, a generation or more >from now, wish to compare a possibly
related person's DNA with that of my ancestor?

Are there other approaches that would allow samples taken in the more distant
future to be compared to the results of your tests made on now-living people?

I'll appreciate any light you can shed.

Donn Devine
Wilmington DE USA


DNA Research #DNA Some Insights, Please #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Bennett:

I have several brick-wall ancestral lines for which there are living family
members in either the Y-chromosome or mtDNA lines. I would like to arrange
for their testing to put them in the data base, in the hope that someone else
may someday match them, and provide some additional clues as to where the
ancestor originated.

Before asking them if they are willing to be tested, however, I would like to
know how lasting the data base is likely to be. In contrast to paper or
microfilm records, I quite frankly don't have a great deal of confidence that
most existing digital data will be preserved by migrating it to new platforms
beyond one or two generations of new technologies.

As a possibly more enduring approach, are your results expressed in terms
that could be included in a published genealogy (the same as we include
documents that help establish the identity of a person), and be useful to
someone who may, a generation or more >from now, wish to compare a possibly
related person's DNA with that of my ancestor?

Are there other approaches that would allow samples taken in the more distant
future to be compared to the results of your tests made on now-living people?

I'll appreciate any light you can shed.

Donn Devine
Wilmington DE USA


Re: mutations rates #dna

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

"EGH" == Ernest G Holzmann <eholzman@...> writes:
EGH> Reduced to its ultimate limit, what you seem to be saying is simply
EGH> this:

EGH> As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
EGH> mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
EGH> Dad is her father...

FTDNA test? There are _two_ tests we are discussing. One is 'Y' the
other is mtDNA.

The mtDNA would show you related to your mother. You _get_ your
mother's mtDNA. (Remember it's her egg that started you off.)
Males just don't pass it on to your offspring.

The mtDNA would show you related to your sister, Just not through
your father.

<chaim>

(I remember being told that that's why being jewish is via the mother.
One's mother is provable. One's father is not.)

--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@... +1-718-236-0183


DNA Research #DNA Re: mutations rates #dna

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

"EGH" == Ernest G Holzmann <eholzman@...> writes:
EGH> Reduced to its ultimate limit, what you seem to be saying is simply
EGH> this:

EGH> As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
EGH> mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
EGH> Dad is her father...

FTDNA test? There are _two_ tests we are discussing. One is 'Y' the
other is mtDNA.

The mtDNA would show you related to your mother. You _get_ your
mother's mtDNA. (Remember it's her egg that started you off.)
Males just don't pass it on to your offspring.

The mtDNA would show you related to your sister, Just not through
your father.

<chaim>

(I remember being told that that's why being jewish is via the mother.
One's mother is provable. One's father is not.)

--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@... +1-718-236-0183


Re: mutations rates #dna

Bennett Greenspan <bcg@...>
 

Hello Both Chaim and Ernie

I hesitate to get between you two, but I think that Chaim's example of
today (the electrical circuit) is a good one. In fact Michael Tobias
produced a chart showing what the electrical circuit would look like (it's
really a family tree).

For the moment I have put it at www.familytreedna.com/tobiaschart.html if
anyone wants to look at it. It's not finished yet, I'm short some
language, but the chart is accurate.

The only difference is that in the example of the electrical circuit of
Chaim's definition only one node can be lit up (the direct line form Father
to son) and Ernie has said:

As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
Dad is her father...
and that would be true, except in the cases of sons' tested we will
database BOTH for their mtDNA and the Y chromosome (which will allow us to
trace >from a male to his mothers mothers' side), however Ernie is accurate
that a daughter can't use the test to prove that her father is her father,
in that the daughter doesn't get mtDNA >from the father. That of course can
be tested for, in typical Paternity suits, which everyone understands is
not what we do or offer. As the chart shows to test the daughter and link
to the fathers side we need to get a brother involved.


Have a nice Holiday

Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston






At 08:45 AM 05/28/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Chaim,

Thank you for your patience...

Reduced to its ultimate limit, what you seem to be saying is simply
this:

As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
Dad is her father...

Ernie

Holzmann
Falls Church, VA


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"chance favors the educated mind"


DNA Research #DNA Re: mutations rates #dna

Bennett Greenspan <bcg@...>
 

Hello Both Chaim and Ernie

I hesitate to get between you two, but I think that Chaim's example of
today (the electrical circuit) is a good one. In fact Michael Tobias
produced a chart showing what the electrical circuit would look like (it's
really a family tree).

For the moment I have put it at www.familytreedna.com/tobiaschart.html if
anyone wants to look at it. It's not finished yet, I'm short some
language, but the chart is accurate.

The only difference is that in the example of the electrical circuit of
Chaim's definition only one node can be lit up (the direct line form Father
to son) and Ernie has said:

As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
Dad is her father...
and that would be true, except in the cases of sons' tested we will
database BOTH for their mtDNA and the Y chromosome (which will allow us to
trace >from a male to his mothers mothers' side), however Ernie is accurate
that a daughter can't use the test to prove that her father is her father,
in that the daughter doesn't get mtDNA >from the father. That of course can
be tested for, in typical Paternity suits, which everyone understands is
not what we do or offer. As the chart shows to test the daughter and link
to the fathers side we need to get a brother involved.


Have a nice Holiday

Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston






At 08:45 AM 05/28/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Chaim,

Thank you for your patience...

Reduced to its ultimate limit, what you seem to be saying is simply
this:

As a son, I cannot expect the FTDNA test to show that I am related to my
mother. And my sister (if I had one) cannot use the test to prove that our
Dad is her father...

Ernie

Holzmann
Falls Church, VA


-----------
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there you can find many questions answered already:
http://www.familytreedna.com/faqjg.html

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<dna@...>

DNA Website: http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

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testing for family connections #dna

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

If I am following all of the information correctly, my son would not be
a candidate for matching anyone to my father's family and I would have
to have one of my brothers or one of their sons tested for matching with
another family of the same surname that we think is related.
Anita R. (Modell) Drexler
Tracing Model/Modell, Grabsky/Grabski and Bernstein


DNA Research #DNA testing for family connections #dna

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

If I am following all of the information correctly, my son would not be
a candidate for matching anyone to my father's family and I would have
to have one of my brothers or one of their sons tested for matching with
another family of the same surname that we think is related.
Anita R. (Modell) Drexler
Tracing Model/Modell, Grabsky/Grabski and Bernstein


Latvia Lunch at Salt Lake City #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

from Gladys Friedman Paulin, Director IAJGS
You may be interested in this information on the lunches at SLC
Below is the count of attendees to the luncheons based on the early
registration numbers (April 30).
Germany - 60
Rom-Sig - 44
Latvia - 48
Galicia - 78
Belarus - 109
Avotaynu - 59
Litvak - 106

About 60% of the early registrants signed up for at least one luncheon.
This a fantastic response for the first time we offered luncheons!
Registrations for the luncheons are urged to be in advance since the hotel
requires head count at least 3 business days in advance.


Arlene Beare


Latvia SIG #Latvia Latvia Lunch at Salt Lake City #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

from Gladys Friedman Paulin, Director IAJGS
You may be interested in this information on the lunches at SLC
Below is the count of attendees to the luncheons based on the early
registration numbers (April 30).
Germany - 60
Rom-Sig - 44
Latvia - 48
Galicia - 78
Belarus - 109
Avotaynu - 59
Litvak - 106

About 60% of the early registrants signed up for at least one luncheon.
This a fantastic response for the first time we offered luncheons!
Registrations for the luncheons are urged to be in advance since the hotel
requires head count at least 3 business days in advance.


Arlene Beare


First names #belarus

Hilmis@...
 

I'm sure most of the names on my family tree have been "americanized".
Where could I find the Russian equivilant of first names like Meyer,
Nathan, Louis, Ralph, and Morris?

Thank you,
Leslie Moser
Hillsdale, NJ
Hilmis@...

Researching WIMENITZ/VYMENITZ >from Vitebsk.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus First names #belarus

Hilmis@...
 

I'm sure most of the names on my family tree have been "americanized".
Where could I find the Russian equivilant of first names like Meyer,
Nathan, Louis, Ralph, and Morris?

Thank you,
Leslie Moser
Hillsdale, NJ
Hilmis@...

Researching WIMENITZ/VYMENITZ >from Vitebsk.
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Re: Liebovitz #latvia

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

Dear People

I have seen two Leibovitz letters in the last two days and I am wondering if
you are in touch with the Liebovitz Group. (all spellings) I presume this
group is still in operation and I do have one or two e.mail addresses for
some of the members of this Group. If Lynette Kahn would like to contact me
privately, I will be happy to give you the Leibovitz addresses I have.
There are quite a few Leibovitz families in S.Africa, not related to each
other. some of these Leibovitz's are/were part of the Leibovitz Group.
Aviva Ne'eman in Tel Aviv has a huge Leibovitz Tree and I can supply her
e.mail address , she would be delighted to hear >from any Leibovitz
researchers. Aviva's Leibovitz's come >from PIKELEH, Lithuania.


sincerely
Anne Lapedus Brest. Sandton, South Africa (Ex Dublin, Ireland)
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS (vieksniai, Lithuania) LAPIDUS (all spellings -
anywhere) ; BREST (Bauska Latvia): MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) ;
S(C)HILLMAN (Odessa, Russia); ORKIN (Zagera and Ioniskis/Janechik);
KLAPMAN (Ackmene, Lithuania); MIRRELSON (Kourland, Latvia); KAHN
(Vieksniai) KARLIN (Zagera)

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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Liebovitz #latvia

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

Dear People

I have seen two Leibovitz letters in the last two days and I am wondering if
you are in touch with the Liebovitz Group. (all spellings) I presume this
group is still in operation and I do have one or two e.mail addresses for
some of the members of this Group. If Lynette Kahn would like to contact me
privately, I will be happy to give you the Leibovitz addresses I have.
There are quite a few Leibovitz families in S.Africa, not related to each
other. some of these Leibovitz's are/were part of the Leibovitz Group.
Aviva Ne'eman in Tel Aviv has a huge Leibovitz Tree and I can supply her
e.mail address , she would be delighted to hear >from any Leibovitz
researchers. Aviva's Leibovitz's come >from PIKELEH, Lithuania.


sincerely
Anne Lapedus Brest. Sandton, South Africa (Ex Dublin, Ireland)
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS (vieksniai, Lithuania) LAPIDUS (all spellings -
anywhere) ; BREST (Bauska Latvia): MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) ;
S(C)HILLMAN (Odessa, Russia); ORKIN (Zagera and Ioniskis/Janechik);
KLAPMAN (Ackmene, Lithuania); MIRRELSON (Kourland, Latvia); KAHN
(Vieksniai) KARLIN (Zagera)

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