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Re: Only one Y match
#dna
Arline and Sidney Sachs
Jackie Wasserstein wrote "My brother took the Y67 DNA test in 2013. After
3 years he only has one match. How is this possible?". The answer is there are 5 different type of markers mutations beside the most common type of an increase or decease of one repeat. Your brother may have one of the five types. After a mutation occurred, there are no direct paternal offsprings in most cases after a few generations, so most mutations are lost. My cousin, who is a Cohenim, has one of the other mutations on a Cohen Modal Haplotype's marker and his result on 12 markers is no matches. Sidney Sachs Lorton, VA
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DNA Research #DNA Re: Only one Y match
#dna
Arline and Sidney Sachs
Jackie Wasserstein wrote "My brother took the Y67 DNA test in 2013. After
3 years he only has one match. How is this possible?". The answer is there are 5 different type of markers mutations beside the most common type of an increase or decease of one repeat. Your brother may have one of the five types. After a mutation occurred, there are no direct paternal offsprings in most cases after a few generations, so most mutations are lost. My cousin, who is a Cohenim, has one of the other mutations on a Cohen Modal Haplotype's marker and his result on 12 markers is no matches. Sidney Sachs Lorton, VA
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22 June 1941
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Dear researchers,
I was out of communication for a while, because I have trouble with my computer/hard drive/emails. First I want to let you know that if you did not get an answer >from me, I usually am trying to reply promptly, but if I did not, please re-send your message to me. 22 June 1941 - 75 years ago, Germans with allies Romanians attacked the Soviet Union and the Great Patriotic War started. That was saddest day in the history of the Soviet Union and especially the Jews in the Soviet Union. Some of the Western regions of the USSR were occupied by advancing armies almost immediately on 2nd, 3rd days of the war. Bessarabia was bombarded right away, but the troops entered Bessarabia only after 2 weeks! That delay allowed many Jews to evacuate to the East. Some men were drafted to the army. Who were not evacuated? Elderly and sick people, also some, who remembered Germans in the WWI, did not want to go anywhere "they survived WWI and will survive WWII" Some of those who were evacuated to the East did not survive the journey: died >from the bombardments, diseases, also many Bessarabian Jews were trapped in Odessa, and were killed. If you are interested in details of evacuation, and life before and during the war, I have a set memoirs written by my mother, Khinka Kogan (Spivak) who were among evacuees to Uzbekistan: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Causeni/Kaushany_files/MotherStories-English.pdf Yefim Kogan
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia 22 June 1941
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Dear researchers,
I was out of communication for a while, because I have trouble with my computer/hard drive/emails. First I want to let you know that if you did not get an answer >from me, I usually am trying to reply promptly, but if I did not, please re-send your message to me. 22 June 1941 - 75 years ago, Germans with allies Romanians attacked the Soviet Union and the Great Patriotic War started. That was saddest day in the history of the Soviet Union and especially the Jews in the Soviet Union. Some of the Western regions of the USSR were occupied by advancing armies almost immediately on 2nd, 3rd days of the war. Bessarabia was bombarded right away, but the troops entered Bessarabia only after 2 weeks! That delay allowed many Jews to evacuate to the East. Some men were drafted to the army. Who were not evacuated? Elderly and sick people, also some, who remembered Germans in the WWI, did not want to go anywhere "they survived WWI and will survive WWII" Some of those who were evacuated to the East did not survive the journey: died >from the bombardments, diseases, also many Bessarabian Jews were trapped in Odessa, and were killed. If you are interested in details of evacuation, and life before and during the war, I have a set memoirs written by my mother, Khinka Kogan (Spivak) who were among evacuees to Uzbekistan: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Causeni/Kaushany_files/MotherStories-English.pdf Yefim Kogan
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Szobel Family Search
#hungary
Karen Catania
I would like to find out the following:
1) Herman Szobel Born: 1 August 1874 to Abraham Szobel & Roza Weisz >from Mal= tezalka. He perished in Auschwitz - his daughter Klara Szobel made it to Isr= ael. I saw one piece of testimony >from Yad Vashem , his wife perished and no= one in my family knows the wife's name nor what happened to Klara=20 2) Amalia aka Molly Szobel B: 15 May 1873 My family does not know who she married in Mateszalka it appears in the Hung= arian records that she married a man Mozes (Morris) Arenstein? (Not certain)= and had a child Jozsef 26 June 1894. I was told Molly also had a child Marga= ret (need birth date) who married Arman Roth and Molly also had a daughter E= thel ( need birth date) and my Aunt told me she married a Leonard Ornstein/o= renstein. All before coming to the US. They lived in Detroit for a while and= then all went to Los Angeles.=20 3) Mozes aka Morris Szobel born: 21 April 1879 and immigrated to the USA 19= 14 . He was married to Leona, raised daughter Sari aka Shari - they lived an= d worked in Atlantic City. I have seen all the city directories and one Cens= us 1930 where they were all together. I cannot find a death record on Leona (= born about 1880 and they married 1906) and I don't know what happened to Sar= i, if she married or had children. And I could. Not find them in the 1940 ce= nsus which is strange.=20 I made a post in the general Jewish Gen and I didn't describe what I was look= ing for properly. If anyone could help, I would be grateful.=20 Thank you so much! Karen Sobel-Catania Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is likely to be of general interest.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Szobel Family Search
#hungary
Karen Catania
I would like to find out the following:
1) Herman Szobel Born: 1 August 1874 to Abraham Szobel & Roza Weisz >from Mal= tezalka. He perished in Auschwitz - his daughter Klara Szobel made it to Isr= ael. I saw one piece of testimony >from Yad Vashem , his wife perished and no= one in my family knows the wife's name nor what happened to Klara=20 2) Amalia aka Molly Szobel B: 15 May 1873 My family does not know who she married in Mateszalka it appears in the Hung= arian records that she married a man Mozes (Morris) Arenstein? (Not certain)= and had a child Jozsef 26 June 1894. I was told Molly also had a child Marga= ret (need birth date) who married Arman Roth and Molly also had a daughter E= thel ( need birth date) and my Aunt told me she married a Leonard Ornstein/o= renstein. All before coming to the US. They lived in Detroit for a while and= then all went to Los Angeles.=20 3) Mozes aka Morris Szobel born: 21 April 1879 and immigrated to the USA 19= 14 . He was married to Leona, raised daughter Sari aka Shari - they lived an= d worked in Atlantic City. I have seen all the city directories and one Cens= us 1930 where they were all together. I cannot find a death record on Leona (= born about 1880 and they married 1906) and I don't know what happened to Sar= i, if she married or had children. And I could. Not find them in the 1940 ce= nsus which is strange.=20 I made a post in the general Jewish Gen and I didn't describe what I was look= ing for properly. If anyone could help, I would be grateful.=20 Thank you so much! Karen Sobel-Catania Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is likely to be of general interest.
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Lithuanian mayor dismantles building made from Jewish headstones
#lithuania
Danielle Weiner
I received this announcement today >from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency:
http://www.jta.org/2016/06/23/news-opinion/world/lithuanian-mayor- dismantles-building-made-from-jewish-headstones Danielle Weiner Dallas, TX MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is an informational announcement and not the beginning of a thread.
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lithuanian mayor dismantles building made from Jewish headstones
#lithuania
Danielle Weiner
I received this announcement today >from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency:
http://www.jta.org/2016/06/23/news-opinion/world/lithuanian-mayor- dismantles-building-made-from-jewish-headstones Danielle Weiner Dallas, TX MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is an informational announcement and not the beginning of a thread.
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Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian
#general
Mikael Kanski
Dear all,
I've posted two birth records in Russian for which I need translation. They can be found on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49110 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49111 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you m'rosh Best regards, Mikael Kanski
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JRI Poland #Poland Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian
#poland
Mikael Kanski
Dear all,
I've posted two birth records in Russian for which I need translation. They can be found on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49110 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49111 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you m'rosh Best regards, Mikael Kanski
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
#poland
Jacob Hammer <magijak@...>
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I've posted 5 vital records in Polish, >from Bledow/Mogielnica, for which I need extraction of all genealogical data (names, dates, places). I'd appreciate as complete a translation as possible. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses : http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48002 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48063 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48064 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48065 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48066 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much, mailto:magijak@gmail.com Jacob Hammer
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JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Polish
#poland
Jacob Hammer <magijak@...>
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I've posted 5 vital records in Polish, >from Bledow/Mogielnica, for which I need extraction of all genealogical data (names, dates, places). I'd appreciate as complete a translation as possible. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses : http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48002 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48063 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48064 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48065 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM48066 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much, mailto:magijak@gmail.com Jacob Hammer
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Seeking Info Dr. Efraim Simon HOENIG MD and Family from Eger (Cheb), Bohemia (Czech Republic)
#germany
Leo Hoenig
from Leo Hoenig - <hoenig453@aol.com>Hi I'm looking for information about Dr. Efraim Simon HOENIG MD, his wife and their two daughters who lived in Eger, Bohemia (now Cheb, Czech Republic). Dr. HONIG [O umlaut] was born in Kirchenbirk, Bohemia on (June 18, 1865/Kirchenbirk (the 14th of 15 children of Josef HOENIG and Theresa TAUSSIG). He was a physician in Eger, and ived at 15 Bahnhofstrasse. He died there >from a heart attack at 2 pm on June 30, 1915. On January 17, 1893 in Marienbad he married Louise Charlotte BECK (born about 1868 to Viel BECK of Marienbad and Francisca Fischer from Neustadt).Louise Charlotte died after her husband, but I do not know where or when. They had two daughters born in Eger, Gertrud HOENIG, born on December 11, 1894, and Lilly Josefine HOENIG, born on November 23, 1903. Lilly left the Jewish religion on November 12, 1930 and she become non-denominational, according to reports >from the district administration in Eger on May 18, 1931. Nothing further has been found about the fate or life of these HOENIGs. Thank you very much for any additional information. Leo (Leopold) Hoenig (New York), Hoenig453@aol.com
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German SIG #Germany Seeking Info Dr. Efraim Simon HOENIG MD and Family from Eger (Cheb), Bohemia (Czech Republic)
#germany
Leo Hoenig
from Leo Hoenig - <hoenig453@aol.com>Hi I'm looking for information about Dr. Efraim Simon HOENIG MD, his wife and their two daughters who lived in Eger, Bohemia (now Cheb, Czech Republic). Dr. HONIG [O umlaut] was born in Kirchenbirk, Bohemia on (June 18, 1865/Kirchenbirk (the 14th of 15 children of Josef HOENIG and Theresa TAUSSIG). He was a physician in Eger, and ived at 15 Bahnhofstrasse. He died there >from a heart attack at 2 pm on June 30, 1915. On January 17, 1893 in Marienbad he married Louise Charlotte BECK (born about 1868 to Viel BECK of Marienbad and Francisca Fischer from Neustadt).Louise Charlotte died after her husband, but I do not know where or when. They had two daughters born in Eger, Gertrud HOENIG, born on December 11, 1894, and Lilly Josefine HOENIG, born on November 23, 1903. Lilly left the Jewish religion on November 12, 1930 and she become non-denominational, according to reports >from the district administration in Eger on May 18, 1931. Nothing further has been found about the fate or life of these HOENIGs. Thank you very much for any additional information. Leo (Leopold) Hoenig (New York), Hoenig453@aol.com
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Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records
#germany
Liz Hanellin
Dear GerSIGers,
I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb. FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter, Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim, but he is not the focus of this email.). I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941 and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand," who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5. There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948. And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947. I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records: Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand? I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have Been - where were these women giving birth? What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of the birth because of the war? Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive at that time? A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions, thoughts and insights. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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German SIG #Germany Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records
#germany
Liz Hanellin
Dear GerSIGers,
I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb. FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter, Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim, but he is not the focus of this email.). I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941 and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand," who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5. There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948. And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947. I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records: Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand? I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have Been - where were these women giving birth? What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of the birth because of the war? Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive at that time? A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions, thoughts and insights. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries
#general
Judy Vasos
Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to save paper or what the reason. I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail. I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used? Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence? Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource. Best, Judy Vasos Baczewski judyvasos@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries
#general
Judy Vasos
Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to save paper or what the reason. I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail. I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used? Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence? Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource. Best, Judy Vasos Baczewski judyvasos@gmail.com
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ViewMate Translations - Polish to English
#general
Marilyn Silva
Genners,
I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109 Thank you Marilyn Silva GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translations - Polish to English
#general
Marilyn Silva
Genners,
I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109 Thank you Marilyn Silva GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.
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