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Bessarabia SIG, Update for September 2016 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

Please see the What's New Section of the details.

We have completed indexing and sent to JOWBR information on TWO more Jewish cemeteries in
Bessarabia/Moldova:

- Jewish Cemetery of Leovo. It used to a very large cemetery. We have sent 353 burial records (we
could read surname, first name or father's name at least) with 289 photos. We also put a section of
Unknown graves for Leovo cemetery with 343 photos at Bessarabia SIG website (cemetery section).

I should tell you that it took two trips to Leovo to do the photographing, and were promised some
donations for Leovo, but did not get them! We need your donations for the Leovo Cemetery!
The work for Leovo cemetery is done yet. There is a section at the cemetery, with no access to the
graves. There is going to be a Reconstruction project at Leovo cemetery, hopefully started in spring
of 2017 to clean up the cemetery and fix the fence. See more details about it at the Leovo Cemetery
report.

- Jewish Cemetery of Dubossary, Old Section. 149 burial records with 149 photos submitted to
JewishGen/JOWBR, and also 46 photos sent to Unknown Section for Dubossary, Old.
That cemetery has graves dating to the end of 18 century - 200+ years old. Some of the monuments
have a terrific engravings and inscriptions. See more at the Dubossary Jewish Cemetery, old section
Report.
I was very much interested to see the result of this work - my great great grandfather Erukhim Kohen
most likely was buried at that cemetery in late 19 c, but no, I was not lucky at this time.

- You also can see the updated list of Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova with latest information
on the work we are doing.

- The Bessarabia SIG Website was updated, especially Research Project section. The cemetery projects
were moved to Cemetery section, and I encourage you to browse the Research Project and other section.


Please let us know if you have any questions, ideas of how to make our Bessarabia SIG and the website
better.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Bessarabia SIG, Update for September 2016 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

Please see the What's New Section of the details.

We have completed indexing and sent to JOWBR information on TWO more Jewish cemeteries in
Bessarabia/Moldova:

- Jewish Cemetery of Leovo. It used to a very large cemetery. We have sent 353 burial records (we
could read surname, first name or father's name at least) with 289 photos. We also put a section of
Unknown graves for Leovo cemetery with 343 photos at Bessarabia SIG website (cemetery section).

I should tell you that it took two trips to Leovo to do the photographing, and were promised some
donations for Leovo, but did not get them! We need your donations for the Leovo Cemetery!
The work for Leovo cemetery is done yet. There is a section at the cemetery, with no access to the
graves. There is going to be a Reconstruction project at Leovo cemetery, hopefully started in spring
of 2017 to clean up the cemetery and fix the fence. See more details about it at the Leovo Cemetery
report.

- Jewish Cemetery of Dubossary, Old Section. 149 burial records with 149 photos submitted to
JewishGen/JOWBR, and also 46 photos sent to Unknown Section for Dubossary, Old.
That cemetery has graves dating to the end of 18 century - 200+ years old. Some of the monuments
have a terrific engravings and inscriptions. See more at the Dubossary Jewish Cemetery, old section
Report.
I was very much interested to see the result of this work - my great great grandfather Erukhim Kohen
most likely was buried at that cemetery in late 19 c, but no, I was not lucky at this time.

- You also can see the updated list of Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova with latest information
on the work we are doing.

- The Bessarabia SIG Website was updated, especially Research Project section. The cemetery projects
were moved to Cemetery section, and I encourage you to browse the Research Project and other section.


Please let us know if you have any questions, ideas of how to make our Bessarabia SIG and the website
better.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai


Re: Philadelphia Jewish Exponent #general

teiferman@tmccleaning.net
 

I want to respond to <mailto:Mosenkis@clalit.org.il> who asked "how does one get
hold of an archived obituary >from the Philadelphia Jewish Exponent.?" You can
get the obituary by writing to Ms. Hamilton at The Jewish Exponent in
Philadelphia, mailto:jhamilton@jewishexponent.com. She will look it up and send
it to you.

Ted Eiferman
mailto:teiferman@tmccleaning.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Philadelphia Jewish Exponent #general

teiferman@tmccleaning.net
 

I want to respond to <mailto:Mosenkis@clalit.org.il> who asked "how does one get
hold of an archived obituary >from the Philadelphia Jewish Exponent.?" You can
get the obituary by writing to Ms. Hamilton at The Jewish Exponent in
Philadelphia, mailto:jhamilton@jewishexponent.com. She will look it up and send
it to you.

Ted Eiferman
mailto:teiferman@tmccleaning.net


Who you are researching? #general

Shelley Mitchell
 

I originally posted this in the Galicia Discussion Group and I received
numerous responses. I thought I would repost here.

"While I know I have been guilty of what I'm asking, I would love to see
some of the list of people you are looking for even if you are just asking
a question about translation. You never know who will pick up on a name
you're investigating.

Just a suggestion.

Shelley Mitchell
NYC

Looking for WOLFSON, MICHALOVSKY, KONIGSBERG, TERNER, MOLDAUER, TOPF, MOGY,
GOLDSCHEIN and ZIEGLER."


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Who you are researching? #general

Shelley Mitchell
 

I originally posted this in the Galicia Discussion Group and I received
numerous responses. I thought I would repost here.

"While I know I have been guilty of what I'm asking, I would love to see
some of the list of people you are looking for even if you are just asking
a question about translation. You never know who will pick up on a name
you're investigating.

Just a suggestion.

Shelley Mitchell
NYC

Looking for WOLFSON, MICHALOVSKY, KONIGSBERG, TERNER, MOLDAUER, TOPF, MOGY,
GOLDSCHEIN and ZIEGLER."


Szczerzec / Shcherets #galicia

Eli Brauner
 

Dear friends,

I'm looking for colleagues who are interested in Szczerzec, Ukraine.

Just recently I have discovered that my Schrenzel ancestors came to
Lemberg >from Szczerzec. I was told that someone took care on
Szczerzec cemetery. Do you know who carried out the project?

Shana Tova,

Eli Brauner
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen SIG Archives
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
for several past messages about the Szczerzec cemetery.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Szczerzec / Shcherets #galicia

Eli Brauner
 

Dear friends,

I'm looking for colleagues who are interested in Szczerzec, Ukraine.

Just recently I have discovered that my Schrenzel ancestors came to
Lemberg >from Szczerzec. I was told that someone took care on
Szczerzec cemetery. Do you know who carried out the project?

Shana Tova,

Eli Brauner
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen SIG Archives
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
for several past messages about the Szczerzec cemetery.


Seeking info on BAUER, WALTER and HEYMANN families #germany

Daniel Schwab <schwab.daniel@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for friends and relatives who are alive of the following
people mostly >from the Frankfurt area:

Selma H BAUER. (husband Stanley Bauer) Ralph Schwab wrote to her in
connection with Erna (nee Schwab) Heymann's estate 5147 N. 16th Street
Philadelphia, 41, Pa. 1958 husband Stanley, Grandchildren Fred who was
20 yrs in 1958 and Donald 11 yrs. Aunt Bertha Heymann, father Max
Heymann; 1404 Jupiter Avenue Elkins Park 17, Penna

Daisy married to Hermann (Hugo) (died 1954) HEYMANN Living in Majestic
Hotel Miami Beach, Florida in 1958 (reference to Death certificate of
Amanda HEYMANN (died October 1st 1955 (Selama's mother) and Hugo
Heymann) In 1962 lived in Hotel Roosevelt, 1255 Penn Avenue Miami
Beach, Miami Florida

August WALTER (corresponded late 40's early 50's) Koln =E2=80=93 Bruck
Am Klausenberg 61

schwab.daniel@gmail.com Daniel Schwab [residence information not provided]


German SIG #Germany Seeking info on BAUER, WALTER and HEYMANN families #germany

Daniel Schwab <schwab.daniel@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for friends and relatives who are alive of the following
people mostly >from the Frankfurt area:

Selma H BAUER. (husband Stanley Bauer) Ralph Schwab wrote to her in
connection with Erna (nee Schwab) Heymann's estate 5147 N. 16th Street
Philadelphia, 41, Pa. 1958 husband Stanley, Grandchildren Fred who was
20 yrs in 1958 and Donald 11 yrs. Aunt Bertha Heymann, father Max
Heymann; 1404 Jupiter Avenue Elkins Park 17, Penna

Daisy married to Hermann (Hugo) (died 1954) HEYMANN Living in Majestic
Hotel Miami Beach, Florida in 1958 (reference to Death certificate of
Amanda HEYMANN (died October 1st 1955 (Selama's mother) and Hugo
Heymann) In 1962 lived in Hotel Roosevelt, 1255 Penn Avenue Miami
Beach, Miami Florida

August WALTER (corresponded late 40's early 50's) Koln =E2=80=93 Bruck
Am Klausenberg 61

schwab.daniel@gmail.com Daniel Schwab [residence information not provided]


Seeking info on MARX and KORNGOLD #germany

schwab.daniel@...
 

Hi,

I am looking for friends and relatives who are alive of the following
people mostly >from the Frankfurt area:

Mr. Mrs Philip MARX last known address 72 Kerkstraat, Antwerp, Belgium

Mrs. Regine KORNGOLD and Casablanca, Morocco, 4 Rue Docteur Mauchamp.
Her sister was her sister Mrs. Paula Censer,

Mr. and Mrs. Arnold NUSSBAUM Son Mr Fernand Nussbaum, Diamond Dealers

Club, 95 Nassau Street, New York City, U.S.A.

Selma H BAUER. (husband Stanley Bauer) Ralph Schwab wrote to her in
connection with Erna (nee Schwab) Heymann's estate 5147 N. 16th Street
Philadelphia, 41, Pa. 1958 husband Stanley, Grandchildren Fred who was
20 yrs in 1958 and Donald 11 yrs. Aunt Bertha HEYMANN, father Max
Heymann; 1404 Jupiter Avenue Elkins Park 17, Penna

schwab.daniel@gmail.com Daniel Schwab


German SIG #Germany Seeking info on MARX and KORNGOLD #germany

schwab.daniel@...
 

Hi,

I am looking for friends and relatives who are alive of the following
people mostly >from the Frankfurt area:

Mr. Mrs Philip MARX last known address 72 Kerkstraat, Antwerp, Belgium

Mrs. Regine KORNGOLD and Casablanca, Morocco, 4 Rue Docteur Mauchamp.
Her sister was her sister Mrs. Paula Censer,

Mr. and Mrs. Arnold NUSSBAUM Son Mr Fernand Nussbaum, Diamond Dealers

Club, 95 Nassau Street, New York City, U.S.A.

Selma H BAUER. (husband Stanley Bauer) Ralph Schwab wrote to her in
connection with Erna (nee Schwab) Heymann's estate 5147 N. 16th Street
Philadelphia, 41, Pa. 1958 husband Stanley, Grandchildren Fred who was
20 yrs in 1958 and Donald 11 yrs. Aunt Bertha HEYMANN, father Max
Heymann; 1404 Jupiter Avenue Elkins Park 17, Penna

schwab.daniel@gmail.com Daniel Schwab


Subject: Jewish Cemetery Brauneberg (Dusemond), Germany #germany

Peter Mcnally
 

Dear Fellow GerSigers!

I am looking for photographs of two graves at the Jewish cemetery in
Brauneberg (formerly Dusemond) in the Rhineland-Palatinate.

They are the graves of:
Kaplun-Kogan, Ljubow, 1855-1915, aus Pechowitsch,
Kaplun-Kogan Dr. med., Sonja, 1879-1919, oo Rosenberger

Their graves are mentioned in the 1993 book: Land zwischen Rhein und
Maas by Dieter Peters (I do not have a copy of the book)

Sonja (Sophia was born in Moscow in 1879, educated in Jalta, and went
to medical school in Freiburg & Berlin.
In Freiburg she met & married fellow Doctor, Felix ROSENBERGER,
(Grandson of Rabbi Israel SCHWARZ (1828-1875),the first Chief Rabbi of
Koln).

Felix was killed in action in the first weeks of WW1 in Western
France, and according to the German War Graves Commision, is buried
there in a mass grave. However there is some reference to him also in
the Brauneberg cemetery. I think that perhaps this is some kind of
memorial.

I have been unable to find pictures >from this cemetery. If anyone can
help me in this matter, and also solve the Felix ROSENBERGER
conundrum, I would be most grateful.

May I wish you all Gmar Chatima Tova.

Peter Mcnally Ayelet Hashahar, Upper Galilee, Israel 42.2petermc@gmail.com

Researching:
DURRA, Beslau, Staedtel, Berlin. KAPLUN-KOGAN, Moscow, Yalta, Breslau, Stockholm
FRIEDMANN, Breslau. Bytom, Nysa. MOSES, Ottmachau, Baranow. Hamburg,
SACHS, Frankenstein
WERNER, Ottmachau. SCHWARZ, Koln, Hurben, Floss, Kempen. AMSEL, Koln, Roermond
SIANI, Sayyan (Yemen)


German SIG #Germany Subject: Jewish Cemetery Brauneberg (Dusemond), Germany #germany

Peter Mcnally
 

Dear Fellow GerSigers!

I am looking for photographs of two graves at the Jewish cemetery in
Brauneberg (formerly Dusemond) in the Rhineland-Palatinate.

They are the graves of:
Kaplun-Kogan, Ljubow, 1855-1915, aus Pechowitsch,
Kaplun-Kogan Dr. med., Sonja, 1879-1919, oo Rosenberger

Their graves are mentioned in the 1993 book: Land zwischen Rhein und
Maas by Dieter Peters (I do not have a copy of the book)

Sonja (Sophia was born in Moscow in 1879, educated in Jalta, and went
to medical school in Freiburg & Berlin.
In Freiburg she met & married fellow Doctor, Felix ROSENBERGER,
(Grandson of Rabbi Israel SCHWARZ (1828-1875),the first Chief Rabbi of
Koln).

Felix was killed in action in the first weeks of WW1 in Western
France, and according to the German War Graves Commision, is buried
there in a mass grave. However there is some reference to him also in
the Brauneberg cemetery. I think that perhaps this is some kind of
memorial.

I have been unable to find pictures >from this cemetery. If anyone can
help me in this matter, and also solve the Felix ROSENBERGER
conundrum, I would be most grateful.

May I wish you all Gmar Chatima Tova.

Peter Mcnally Ayelet Hashahar, Upper Galilee, Israel 42.2petermc@gmail.com

Researching:
DURRA, Beslau, Staedtel, Berlin. KAPLUN-KOGAN, Moscow, Yalta, Breslau, Stockholm
FRIEDMANN, Breslau. Bytom, Nysa. MOSES, Ottmachau, Baranow. Hamburg,
SACHS, Frankenstein
WERNER, Ottmachau. SCHWARZ, Koln, Hurben, Floss, Kempen. AMSEL, Koln, Roermond
SIANI, Sayyan (Yemen)


Nagykanizsa Community Ledger, Hungary. 1818- 1846 #general

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear Group,

Is anyone planning to go to the Yeshiva University Library in New York any
time soon?

Searching for information about Nagykanizsa, Hungary, I came across an
auction site which sold the Nagykanizsa Community Ledger
(http://www.dmag.co.il/pub/jj/jjac/files/assets/basic-html/page135.html).
This book has immense importance for anyone interested in this town.
According to the description in the site the ledger spans the years 1818-
1846 and contains 314 pages, divided into two sections. The larger section
features 219 pages with details about each community member >from 1828
through 1846. It includes a summary of hundreds of letters regarding
communal affairs, that were sent >from the community. Copies of
authorizations and confirmations made by the community, community decisions
and more. The ledger was written by the community notary. The second section
features 19 leaves written on both sides, with a list of donors for the
construction of the new community synagogue >from 1818 through 1832. It also
includes hundreds of letters that the community sent to other Hungarian
communities.

Searching libraries I found this book in the Yeshiva University Library. If
anyone is planning to visit this library please contact me. I would like to
get a photo of a few pages >from this book.

Thank you,
Omri Arnon
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nagykanizsa Community Ledger, Hungary. 1818- 1846 #general

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear Group,

Is anyone planning to go to the Yeshiva University Library in New York any
time soon?

Searching for information about Nagykanizsa, Hungary, I came across an
auction site which sold the Nagykanizsa Community Ledger
(http://www.dmag.co.il/pub/jj/jjac/files/assets/basic-html/page135.html).
This book has immense importance for anyone interested in this town.
According to the description in the site the ledger spans the years 1818-
1846 and contains 314 pages, divided into two sections. The larger section
features 219 pages with details about each community member >from 1828
through 1846. It includes a summary of hundreds of letters regarding
communal affairs, that were sent >from the community. Copies of
authorizations and confirmations made by the community, community decisions
and more. The ledger was written by the community notary. The second section
features 19 leaves written on both sides, with a list of donors for the
construction of the new community synagogue >from 1818 through 1832. It also
includes hundreds of letters that the community sent to other Hungarian
communities.

Searching libraries I found this book in the Yeshiva University Library. If
anyone is planning to visit this library please contact me. I would like to
get a photo of a few pages >from this book.

Thank you,
Omri Arnon
Israel


Bessarabia SIG, Update for September 2016 #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

Please see the What's New Section of the details.

We have completed indexing and sent to JOWBR information on TWO more Jewish cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova:

- Jewish Cemetery of Leovo. It used to a very large cemetery. We have sent 353 burial records (we could read surname, first name or father's name at least) with 289 photos. We also put a section of Unknown graves for Leovo cemetery with 343 photos at Bessarabia SIG website (cemetery section).

I should tell you that it took two trips to Leovo to do the photographing, and were promised some donations for Leovo, but did not get them! We need your donations for the Leovo Cemetery!
The work for Leovo cemetery is done yet. There is a section at the cemetery, with no access to the graves. There is going to be a Reconstruction project at Leovo cemetery, hopefully started in spring of 2017 to clean up the cemetery and fix the fence. See more details about it at the Leovo Cemetery report.

- Jewish Cemetery of Dubossary, Old Section. 149 burial records with 149 photos submitted to JewishGen/JOWBR, and also 46 photos sent to Unknown Section for Dubossary, Old.
That cemetery has graves dating to the end of 18 century - 200+ years old. Some of the monuments have a terrific engravings and inscriptions. See more at the Dubossary Jewish Cemetery, old section Report.
I was very much interested to see the result of this work - my great great grandfather Erukhim Kohen most likely was buried at that cemetery in late 19 c, but no, I was not lucky at this time.

- You also can see the updated list of Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova with latest information on the work we are doing.

- The Bessarabia SIG Website was updated, especially Research Project section. The cemetery projects were moved to Cemetery section, and I encourage you to browse the Research Project and other section.


Please let us know if you have any questions, ideas of how to make our Bessarabia SIG and the website better.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Bessarabia SIG, Update for September 2016 #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

Please see the What's New Section of the details.

We have completed indexing and sent to JOWBR information on TWO more Jewish cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova:

- Jewish Cemetery of Leovo. It used to a very large cemetery. We have sent 353 burial records (we could read surname, first name or father's name at least) with 289 photos. We also put a section of Unknown graves for Leovo cemetery with 343 photos at Bessarabia SIG website (cemetery section).

I should tell you that it took two trips to Leovo to do the photographing, and were promised some donations for Leovo, but did not get them! We need your donations for the Leovo Cemetery!
The work for Leovo cemetery is done yet. There is a section at the cemetery, with no access to the graves. There is going to be a Reconstruction project at Leovo cemetery, hopefully started in spring of 2017 to clean up the cemetery and fix the fence. See more details about it at the Leovo Cemetery report.

- Jewish Cemetery of Dubossary, Old Section. 149 burial records with 149 photos submitted to JewishGen/JOWBR, and also 46 photos sent to Unknown Section for Dubossary, Old.
That cemetery has graves dating to the end of 18 century - 200+ years old. Some of the monuments have a terrific engravings and inscriptions. See more at the Dubossary Jewish Cemetery, old section Report.
I was very much interested to see the result of this work - my great great grandfather Erukhim Kohen most likely was buried at that cemetery in late 19 c, but no, I was not lucky at this time.

- You also can see the updated list of Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia/Moldova with latest information on the work we are doing.

- The Bessarabia SIG Website was updated, especially Research Project section. The cemetery projects were moved to Cemetery section, and I encourage you to browse the Research Project and other section.


Please let us know if you have any questions, ideas of how to make our Bessarabia SIG and the website better.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai


Where to start in DNA testing? #dna

sbloom@...
 

Hi Kathy,

I would suggest testing your mother first because she is 90 years old,
and we all tend to have a way of putting things off until it's too late.
Though you will likely have enough DNA in a sample to do both tests, if
finances are a concern, then definitely do autosomal first.
MTDNA is rarely useful for genealogical purposes and can only get you
information on one very precise line. I would put that one off
If finances are an issue (and maybe not even do it at all).

Then, test yourself (autosomal), and have your brother do YDNA (he can
do autosomal later, but it's better to "use" him for YDNA).

For your son's complete ancestry, start with your husband first, then
your son. In the end, you will need both to make sense of your son's
total genetic genealogy, but I would always progress >from oldest to
youngest (and farther back generations to current).

I hate to promote one company over another since probably most are
similar for autosomal (I know 23andme and Ftdna are similar in this
regard).

However, as far as I know, Family Tree DNA has the most sophisticated
analysis for YDNA and Mtdna, so go with them if you intend on doing
one or both of those kind of tests later.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia


DNA Research #DNA Where to start in DNA testing? #dna

sbloom@...
 

Hi Kathy,

I would suggest testing your mother first because she is 90 years old,
and we all tend to have a way of putting things off until it's too late.
Though you will likely have enough DNA in a sample to do both tests, if
finances are a concern, then definitely do autosomal first.
MTDNA is rarely useful for genealogical purposes and can only get you
information on one very precise line. I would put that one off
If finances are an issue (and maybe not even do it at all).

Then, test yourself (autosomal), and have your brother do YDNA (he can
do autosomal later, but it's better to "use" him for YDNA).

For your son's complete ancestry, start with your husband first, then
your son. In the end, you will need both to make sense of your son's
total genetic genealogy, but I would always progress >from oldest to
youngest (and farther back generations to current).

I hate to promote one company over another since probably most are
similar for autosomal (I know 23andme and Ftdna are similar in this
regard).

However, as far as I know, Family Tree DNA has the most sophisticated
analysis for YDNA and Mtdna, so go with them if you intend on doing
one or both of those kind of tests later.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

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