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Pinkas HaKehillot
#galicia
Joyce Field <jfield@...>
In response to the offer by Connie Shertz to share a translation >from
the Pinkas HaKehillot, I want to inform everyone that those books have a closely held copyright by Yad Vashem, which will not give permission to publish translations as they are planning to publish their own translations with New York University Press in abridged volumes. Therefore, Connie's translations cannot appear anywhere on the JewishGen web site as this would constitute copyright infringement. Joyce Field jfield@jewishgen.org -- Joyce Field jfield@indy.net jfield@jewishgen.org
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Pinkas HaKehillot
#galicia
Joyce Field <jfield@...>
In response to the offer by Connie Shertz to share a translation >from
the Pinkas HaKehillot, I want to inform everyone that those books have a closely held copyright by Yad Vashem, which will not give permission to publish translations as they are planning to publish their own translations with New York University Press in abridged volumes. Therefore, Connie's translations cannot appear anywhere on the JewishGen web site as this would constitute copyright infringement. Joyce Field jfield@jewishgen.org -- Joyce Field jfield@indy.net jfield@jewishgen.org
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Re: administrative districts
#galicia
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Hi,
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I am trying to catch with the summer mail, and Suzan Wynne letter caught my attention, since I have been also involved with the subject of classifying Galicia shtetls. Frankly, I do not understand copyright issue mentioned in Suzan letter. I have in front of me list of all Polish towns gathered during 1928. This is supplement to 1929 Poland 1929 Business Directory. All towns are listed alphabetically, and the districts and Provinces names are listed alongside the town names. In addition, page number where detailed information about town and its business folks can be found is also referenced. Another detailed listing is also provided by the individual Provinces pages, all towns are again listed alphabetically Other deatiled town - district lists like Poland Post Office, are also available. What Austrian publication have messed up initially, has been rectified by the later Polish publications. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
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From: "Suzan Wynne" <srwynne@erols.com> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: administrative districts A very final word on the subject of administrative districts from
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: administrative districts
#galicia
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Hi,
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I am trying to catch with the summer mail, and Suzan Wynne letter caught my attention, since I have been also involved with the subject of classifying Galicia shtetls. Frankly, I do not understand copyright issue mentioned in Suzan letter. I have in front of me list of all Polish towns gathered during 1928. This is supplement to 1929 Poland 1929 Business Directory. All towns are listed alphabetically, and the districts and Provinces names are listed alongside the town names. In addition, page number where detailed information about town and its business folks can be found is also referenced. Another detailed listing is also provided by the individual Provinces pages, all towns are again listed alphabetically Other deatiled town - district lists like Poland Post Office, are also available. What Austrian publication have messed up initially, has been rectified by the later Polish publications. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
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From: "Suzan Wynne" <srwynne@erols.com> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: administrative districts A very final word on the subject of administrative districts from
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Re: Sejm voter registration
#galicia
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Israel,
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Polish constitution of 1919 had no restrictions for Poland citizens over age 18 to became a voters. Persons whose names do not appear on the voters list could reside somewhere else during the election period (or when voting lits have been compiled), or people refused to be registered in the first place. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
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From: "IsraelP" <zach4v6@actcom.co.il> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: Sejm voter registration The 1934 Sejm voter registration list for Lwow does
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Sejm voter registration
#galicia
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Israel,
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Polish constitution of 1919 had no restrictions for Poland citizens over age 18 to became a voters. Persons whose names do not appear on the voters list could reside somewhere else during the election period (or when voting lits have been compiled), or people refused to be registered in the first place. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
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From: "IsraelP" <zach4v6@actcom.co.il> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: Sejm voter registration The 1934 Sejm voter registration list for Lwow does
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watcher...thank you
#general
Russell Johnson and Sherry Landa <russell.johnson1@...>
Just to say thank you publicly to all those who answered my watcher query
and that you can stop sending me messages about it now! For those who don't know the watcher sits with the body so that it is not unattended until it is buried. Sherry Landa (Salford Lancs)
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N.Y. Death Certificate
#general
Hymar2@...
Dear Genners,
I want to thank all the Genners who wrote regarding death certificate for Jacob Margolis. Information was very useful and I appreciate your help. Hy Margolis hymar2@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen watcher...thank you
#general
Russell Johnson and Sherry Landa <russell.johnson1@...>
Just to say thank you publicly to all those who answered my watcher query
and that you can stop sending me messages about it now! For those who don't know the watcher sits with the body so that it is not unattended until it is buried. Sherry Landa (Salford Lancs)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen N.Y. Death Certificate
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Hymar2@...
Dear Genners,
I want to thank all the Genners who wrote regarding death certificate for Jacob Margolis. Information was very useful and I appreciate your help. Hy Margolis hymar2@aol.com
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NY City death certificate
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Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
For death certificates in New York, don't forget the Family History Library
(the Mormons). I just looked up your certificate and it can be found on film number 2132430. It says "Vault", but I presume you can still borrow it from your local Family History Library. It might be faster than mailing toNew York City which I understand often takes 6 months or more Cert. no. 21710-23370, 2-26 Nov 1939 VAULT US/CAN Film 2132430 Good Luck. Gloria Auletta Bailey Searching OSHEROWITZ, GINSBERG/GINSBURG and others >from Romanovo or Slutzk and SCHILDKRAUT >from Pagost Subject: Re: N.Y. Death Certificate From: "Diane Jacobs" <kingart@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:07:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 34 Write to the Municipal Archives , 31 Chambers St. , New York, NY (zipcode unknown). I believe it costs $5.00 if you know the certificate number. In any case send them all the information. You may want to check the info files on Jewishgen to get the latest information. Diane jacobs New York My uncle, MARGOLIS, Jacob age 61 died 15 Nov.1939 Kings County, New York----- Original Message ----- From: JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> To: jewishgen digest recipients <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: jewishgen digest: July 28, 2000
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY City death certificate
#general
Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
For death certificates in New York, don't forget the Family History Library
(the Mormons). I just looked up your certificate and it can be found on film number 2132430. It says "Vault", but I presume you can still borrow it from your local Family History Library. It might be faster than mailing toNew York City which I understand often takes 6 months or more Cert. no. 21710-23370, 2-26 Nov 1939 VAULT US/CAN Film 2132430 Good Luck. Gloria Auletta Bailey Searching OSHEROWITZ, GINSBERG/GINSBURG and others >from Romanovo or Slutzk and SCHILDKRAUT >from Pagost Subject: Re: N.Y. Death Certificate From: "Diane Jacobs" <kingart@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:07:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 34 Write to the Municipal Archives , 31 Chambers St. , New York, NY (zipcode unknown). I believe it costs $5.00 if you know the certificate number. In any case send them all the information. You may want to check the info files on Jewishgen to get the latest information. Diane jacobs New York My uncle, MARGOLIS, Jacob age 61 died 15 Nov.1939 Kings County, New York----- Original Message ----- From: JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> To: jewishgen digest recipients <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: jewishgen digest: July 28, 2000
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Re: On the Ethics and Morals of Genealogy
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Genealicej@...
In a message dated 29/7/00 12:10:21 am, cweinstein@jewishgen.org writes:
<< I guess the best observation I can add to what was already covered in my post (which, in turn, came directly >from the National Genealogical Society web site) is follow the golden rule. "Don't do unto others that which is hateful to you." Amusing stories and anecdotes about dear old tante Feige are one thing; the fact that Uncle Max spent ten years at Leavenworth for embezzling is quite another. If you are going to put up a web page or publish a book with your family history, unless it is truly necessary to the story, derogatory information is not in keeping with Jewish morality and ethics. >> There is a group of people in the UK who claim Richard III, the notorious hunchback King to whom the murder of his two nephews in the Tower of London is attributed, was innocent - a maligned and defamed name. How do we know anything is true, whatever has gone down in the annals of history and the legal verdict? Who know what is history and what is politics equally in "history" and in families? And what is genealogy about? I have made a previous point about the professional issues surrounding broadcast and published biographies where it is known families object to the portrayals. This becomes more muddled when "star" actors are identified with the parts they play and these assumptions have been incorporated into biographies. We read and see personal details of famous people often still living on TV, in books and now on the web all the time. This all creates employment for PR specialists worldwide! When individuals who have not sought fame become involved in the media spotlight for the first time, they often start objecting to newspaper reporters and reports for the first time - even though they have read and enjoyed media reports in the past. I am not judging or criticising them for it. They are trying to protect themselves, as anyone would. But such publication is a fact of life. Chuck WEINSTEIN wisely puts in the words, "unless it is truly necessary to the story". Putting on my hat as a family researcher, I am using genealogy for a specific purpose - to discover new relatives and their descendants, not to circulate gossip which may or may not be "true" or accurate. Ancestors may have criminal convictions. I do not know whether they were guilty or innocent. Ancestors may have been placed in mental institutions. I do not know whether they were mentally ill or whether they were put there for other reasons. But I already know these "stories" and want to find out fresh information. "Onkel Max's" criminal conviction at least is established in the public domain - that's the most one can say - and we know "he spent ten years at Leavenworth for embezzling' while judgements on the laughter value of "amusing anecdotes" about his wife Tante Feige are in the eye and ear of the man - and woman - beholding and listening to them. Sure, we have to make personal decisions about whether to publish (and the key word is publish) on the web and what will be the repercussions on individual lives. But these issues are coming up because the line between personal and public is increasingly blurred. At one time in Britain at least, there was never any talk about "privacy" and the press. The only criteria was whether something was accurate or inaccurate. Now so many people have tools of a trade. A camera, a computer without being professionals. Anyone can take a photo of a celebrity and sell it to the media. Anybody can publish a website. Whether we like it or not, tabloid newspapers, book publishers, professional documentary makers and little 'ol amateur genealogists are facing the same issues, whether or not money is involved. I have posted this e-mail for publication by Jewishgen, as well as sending it privately to Chuck WEINSTEIN. I have a couple of family histories written by a distant relative (not Jewish) who, in my opinion, has struck the happiest medium possible in writing about the family. The histories are jam-packed with information and written in a sentimental, slightly flowery, but fairly bland fashion. I do not know whether this is all a deliberate stylistic ploy but it effectively distances both the reader and writer >from the work. Every so often he inserts words to the effect, "Who are we to judge people's lives, whether their actions were right or wrong, who are we to know the full circumstances, motivations. We only know what is recorded". For "amateurs" publishing personal histories, it is not only about the facts themselves but, as for professional writers, the art of narration, the narrative voice. As an Irish professional comic Frank CARSON says, "It's the way you tell 'em". To quote >from another Irishman Oscar WILDE "The Truth is never pure and never simple". Of course when I quote this anecdote attributed to WILDE, I am aware of another anecdote. WILDE telling the American painter James WHISTLER in alleged admiration and envy, "I wish I had said that" and receiving the reply, "You will, Oscar, you will ...". Of course history may not have recorded whether it was actually "WHISTLER's Mother" who made the original quip ... These are all issues which will run and run. Ironically it does become an intensely personal decision with public repercussions whether to publish and or not to publish and how to frame a narrative. And an intensely personal decision whether or not to be offended. Alice Josephs Loughton Essex UK
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: On the Ethics and Morals of Genealogy
#general
Genealicej@...
In a message dated 29/7/00 12:10:21 am, cweinstein@jewishgen.org writes:
<< I guess the best observation I can add to what was already covered in my post (which, in turn, came directly >from the National Genealogical Society web site) is follow the golden rule. "Don't do unto others that which is hateful to you." Amusing stories and anecdotes about dear old tante Feige are one thing; the fact that Uncle Max spent ten years at Leavenworth for embezzling is quite another. If you are going to put up a web page or publish a book with your family history, unless it is truly necessary to the story, derogatory information is not in keeping with Jewish morality and ethics. >> There is a group of people in the UK who claim Richard III, the notorious hunchback King to whom the murder of his two nephews in the Tower of London is attributed, was innocent - a maligned and defamed name. How do we know anything is true, whatever has gone down in the annals of history and the legal verdict? Who know what is history and what is politics equally in "history" and in families? And what is genealogy about? I have made a previous point about the professional issues surrounding broadcast and published biographies where it is known families object to the portrayals. This becomes more muddled when "star" actors are identified with the parts they play and these assumptions have been incorporated into biographies. We read and see personal details of famous people often still living on TV, in books and now on the web all the time. This all creates employment for PR specialists worldwide! When individuals who have not sought fame become involved in the media spotlight for the first time, they often start objecting to newspaper reporters and reports for the first time - even though they have read and enjoyed media reports in the past. I am not judging or criticising them for it. They are trying to protect themselves, as anyone would. But such publication is a fact of life. Chuck WEINSTEIN wisely puts in the words, "unless it is truly necessary to the story". Putting on my hat as a family researcher, I am using genealogy for a specific purpose - to discover new relatives and their descendants, not to circulate gossip which may or may not be "true" or accurate. Ancestors may have criminal convictions. I do not know whether they were guilty or innocent. Ancestors may have been placed in mental institutions. I do not know whether they were mentally ill or whether they were put there for other reasons. But I already know these "stories" and want to find out fresh information. "Onkel Max's" criminal conviction at least is established in the public domain - that's the most one can say - and we know "he spent ten years at Leavenworth for embezzling' while judgements on the laughter value of "amusing anecdotes" about his wife Tante Feige are in the eye and ear of the man - and woman - beholding and listening to them. Sure, we have to make personal decisions about whether to publish (and the key word is publish) on the web and what will be the repercussions on individual lives. But these issues are coming up because the line between personal and public is increasingly blurred. At one time in Britain at least, there was never any talk about "privacy" and the press. The only criteria was whether something was accurate or inaccurate. Now so many people have tools of a trade. A camera, a computer without being professionals. Anyone can take a photo of a celebrity and sell it to the media. Anybody can publish a website. Whether we like it or not, tabloid newspapers, book publishers, professional documentary makers and little 'ol amateur genealogists are facing the same issues, whether or not money is involved. I have posted this e-mail for publication by Jewishgen, as well as sending it privately to Chuck WEINSTEIN. I have a couple of family histories written by a distant relative (not Jewish) who, in my opinion, has struck the happiest medium possible in writing about the family. The histories are jam-packed with information and written in a sentimental, slightly flowery, but fairly bland fashion. I do not know whether this is all a deliberate stylistic ploy but it effectively distances both the reader and writer >from the work. Every so often he inserts words to the effect, "Who are we to judge people's lives, whether their actions were right or wrong, who are we to know the full circumstances, motivations. We only know what is recorded". For "amateurs" publishing personal histories, it is not only about the facts themselves but, as for professional writers, the art of narration, the narrative voice. As an Irish professional comic Frank CARSON says, "It's the way you tell 'em". To quote >from another Irishman Oscar WILDE "The Truth is never pure and never simple". Of course when I quote this anecdote attributed to WILDE, I am aware of another anecdote. WILDE telling the American painter James WHISTLER in alleged admiration and envy, "I wish I had said that" and receiving the reply, "You will, Oscar, you will ...". Of course history may not have recorded whether it was actually "WHISTLER's Mother" who made the original quip ... These are all issues which will run and run. Ironically it does become an intensely personal decision with public repercussions whether to publish and or not to publish and how to frame a narrative. And an intensely personal decision whether or not to be offended. Alice Josephs Loughton Essex UK
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"Paranoid," an Unkind Word
#general
Steve Axelrath <saxelrat@...>
I am sad to see that some who contribute to the JewishGen
Discussion Group use the word "paranoid" to describe those who are fearful of possible negative consequences of having their family information accessible to all through the Internet. Used by the lay person, "paranoid" is an unkind word which pejoratively describes someone one thinks is excessively fearful. Using "paranoid" shifts ones disagreement towards the personality of the "paranoid" person, rather than focusing on his ideas with which one disagrees. "Paranoid" is not only an unkind word, it is typically inaccurate. We all have different life experiences, and so we --legitimately-- have different fears. I've friends who have been raped whose fears are very different >from mine. Are they "paranoid"? Would we call a holocaust survivor who was afraid to share his family's information on the Internet "paranoid," or would we say his fear is very understandable? How many non-"paranoid" Jews stayed in Europe and were slaughtered while their "paranoid" neighbors fled and lived? How different contemporary Jewish life would be had all of the 6,000,000 been "paranoid." Unless you're talking about truly mentally ill people, calling someone "paranoid" merely says that his fears are different >from yours, and so you've chosen to believe that there's something wrong with him. I do understand that family data spread over the Internet will be accessible to all. I do know that we will all have to learn to live with that risk. But it is unkind and inaccurate to unthinkingly label people who are afraid of something which does not frighten us=85 "paranoid." Steve Axelrath Littleton, Colorado
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Paranoid," an Unkind Word
#general
Steve Axelrath <saxelrat@...>
I am sad to see that some who contribute to the JewishGen
Discussion Group use the word "paranoid" to describe those who are fearful of possible negative consequences of having their family information accessible to all through the Internet. Used by the lay person, "paranoid" is an unkind word which pejoratively describes someone one thinks is excessively fearful. Using "paranoid" shifts ones disagreement towards the personality of the "paranoid" person, rather than focusing on his ideas with which one disagrees. "Paranoid" is not only an unkind word, it is typically inaccurate. We all have different life experiences, and so we --legitimately-- have different fears. I've friends who have been raped whose fears are very different >from mine. Are they "paranoid"? Would we call a holocaust survivor who was afraid to share his family's information on the Internet "paranoid," or would we say his fear is very understandable? How many non-"paranoid" Jews stayed in Europe and were slaughtered while their "paranoid" neighbors fled and lived? How different contemporary Jewish life would be had all of the 6,000,000 been "paranoid." Unless you're talking about truly mentally ill people, calling someone "paranoid" merely says that his fears are different >from yours, and so you've chosen to believe that there's something wrong with him. I do understand that family data spread over the Internet will be accessible to all. I do know that we will all have to learn to live with that risk. But it is unkind and inaccurate to unthinkingly label people who are afraid of something which does not frighten us=85 "paranoid." Steve Axelrath Littleton, Colorado
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Ethical Standards
#latvia
Arlene Beare <arl@...>
Crosspost >from Jewishgen
Subject: Standards We Should _All_ Adhere To From: Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@jewishgen.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 The following is reprinted with permission and reflects the minimum standards we should all adhere as family researchers. Genealogical Standards and Guidelines Standards For Sharing Information With Others Recommended by the National Genealogical Society Conscious of the fact that sharing information or data with others, whether through speech, documents or electronic media, is essential to family history research and that it needs continuing support and encouragement, responsible family historians consistently respect the restrictions on sharing information that arise >from the rights of another as an author, originator or compiler; as a living private person; or as a party to a mutual agreement; observe meticulously the legal rights of copyright owners, copying or distributing any part of their works only with their permission, or to the limited extent specifically allowed under the law's "fair use" exceptions; identify the sources for all ideas, information and data >from others, and the form in which they were received, recognizing that the unattributed use of another's intellectual work is plagiarism; respect the authorship rights of senders of letters, electronic mail and data files, forwarding or disseminating them further only with the sender's permission; inform people who provide information about their families as to the ways it may be used, observing any conditions they impose and respecting any reservations they may express regarding the use of particular items; require some evidence of consent before assuming that living people are agreeable to further sharing of information about themselves; convey personal identifying information about living people--like age, home address, occupation or activities--only in ways that those concerned have expressly agreed to; recognize that legal rights of privacy may limit the extent to which information >from publicly available sources may be further used, disseminated or published; communicate no information to others that is known to be false, or without making reasonable efforts to determine its truth, particularly information that may be derogatory; are sensitive to the hurt that revelations of criminal, immoral, bizarre or irresponsible behavior may bring to family members. (C) Copyright 2000 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice. Arlene Beare President Latvia SIG
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Ethical Standards
#latvia
Arlene Beare <arl@...>
Crosspost >from Jewishgen
Subject: Standards We Should _All_ Adhere To From: Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@jewishgen.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 The following is reprinted with permission and reflects the minimum standards we should all adhere as family researchers. Genealogical Standards and Guidelines Standards For Sharing Information With Others Recommended by the National Genealogical Society Conscious of the fact that sharing information or data with others, whether through speech, documents or electronic media, is essential to family history research and that it needs continuing support and encouragement, responsible family historians consistently respect the restrictions on sharing information that arise >from the rights of another as an author, originator or compiler; as a living private person; or as a party to a mutual agreement; observe meticulously the legal rights of copyright owners, copying or distributing any part of their works only with their permission, or to the limited extent specifically allowed under the law's "fair use" exceptions; identify the sources for all ideas, information and data >from others, and the form in which they were received, recognizing that the unattributed use of another's intellectual work is plagiarism; respect the authorship rights of senders of letters, electronic mail and data files, forwarding or disseminating them further only with the sender's permission; inform people who provide information about their families as to the ways it may be used, observing any conditions they impose and respecting any reservations they may express regarding the use of particular items; require some evidence of consent before assuming that living people are agreeable to further sharing of information about themselves; convey personal identifying information about living people--like age, home address, occupation or activities--only in ways that those concerned have expressly agreed to; recognize that legal rights of privacy may limit the extent to which information >from publicly available sources may be further used, disseminated or published; communicate no information to others that is known to be false, or without making reasonable efforts to determine its truth, particularly information that may be derogatory; are sensitive to the hurt that revelations of criminal, immoral, bizarre or irresponsible behavior may bring to family members. (C) Copyright 2000 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice. Arlene Beare President Latvia SIG
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Ethics in Jewish Genealogy & Family History
#general
Kitnick1@...
In reply to Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@jewishgen.org>
The late Rabbi Malcolm Stern, author of The Ten Commandments for Genealogists, wrote in his 9th Commandment: "Thou Shalt respect the sensitivities of the living in whatever you record but tell the truth about the dead." The case regarding Uncle Max spending ten years in prison can be looked at in several ways. Is Uncle Max still alive? Would the "sensitivities" of Uncle Max's relatives be hurt by the public disclosure of his past? Aside >from Rabbi Stern's commandment - would the disclosure of the information continue to punish Max and/or his memory for a crime that he paid for? If he's alive, should he continue to suffer >from his earlier actions? If he's deceased, isn't his slate of worldly actions wiped clean by his death? I presented an "Ethics" session at the International Seminar in New York in 1999, and will be conducting one in London in 2001. Please send me any case studies you have to add to my collection of actual and hypothetical cases... Confidentially will be respected. Steve Kitnick kitnick1@aol.com familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/t/Steven-J-Kitnick/index.html
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ethics in Jewish Genealogy & Family History
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Kitnick1@...
In reply to Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@jewishgen.org>
The late Rabbi Malcolm Stern, author of The Ten Commandments for Genealogists, wrote in his 9th Commandment: "Thou Shalt respect the sensitivities of the living in whatever you record but tell the truth about the dead." The case regarding Uncle Max spending ten years in prison can be looked at in several ways. Is Uncle Max still alive? Would the "sensitivities" of Uncle Max's relatives be hurt by the public disclosure of his past? Aside >from Rabbi Stern's commandment - would the disclosure of the information continue to punish Max and/or his memory for a crime that he paid for? If he's alive, should he continue to suffer >from his earlier actions? If he's deceased, isn't his slate of worldly actions wiped clean by his death? I presented an "Ethics" session at the International Seminar in New York in 1999, and will be conducting one in London in 2001. Please send me any case studies you have to add to my collection of actual and hypothetical cases... Confidentially will be respected. Steve Kitnick kitnick1@aol.com familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/t/Steven-J-Kitnick/index.html
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