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Re: Kymmas Historical Revies #courland #latvia

Mike Getz <mgetz@...>
 

The information I referred to deals with membership details of 346 members of the
KYMMAS - details of those born in Latvia were published in the newsletter I referred
to.
If you have a name or names in mind, let me know.


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Kymmas Historical Revies #latvia #courland

Mike Getz <mgetz@...>
 

The information I referred to deals with membership details of 346 members of the
KYMMAS - details of those born in Latvia were published in the newsletter I referred
to.
If you have a name or names in mind, let me know.


The Archives in Poland #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My researcher in Poland continues to find great things for my family
tree. But most recently, he has found a book. He mentioned to me a
book that includes a new listing of the materials in the Polish
archives, more complete than any other book now available. Of
course, I have no idea if it is or not. But if anyone is interested,
here is more information. If anyone wants to take a "risk," I could
help you to order it directly >from Poland.

Ksi=CDgi metrykalne i stanu cywilnego w archiwach pa=D2stwowych w Polsce.
Informator.
Oprac. Anna Laszuk.
Warszawa 2000, wyd. II bez zmian z errat=B1, ss. 496, cena
50,00; ISBN 83-7181-160-8 (DiG), ISBN 83-86643-53-6 (NDAP)
Wi=CDcej informacji - http://www.dig.com.pl/Katalog_ksiazki.htm#0204

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JRI Poland #Poland The Archives in Poland #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My researcher in Poland continues to find great things for my family
tree. But most recently, he has found a book. He mentioned to me a
book that includes a new listing of the materials in the Polish
archives, more complete than any other book now available. Of
course, I have no idea if it is or not. But if anyone is interested,
here is more information. If anyone wants to take a "risk," I could
help you to order it directly >from Poland.

Ksi=CDgi metrykalne i stanu cywilnego w archiwach pa=D2stwowych w Polsce.
Informator.
Oprac. Anna Laszuk.
Warszawa 2000, wyd. II bez zmian z errat=B1, ss. 496, cena
50,00; ISBN 83-7181-160-8 (DiG), ISBN 83-86643-53-6 (NDAP)
Wi=CDcej informacji - http://www.dig.com.pl/Katalog_ksiazki.htm#0204

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Re: Roots of Senator Joseph LIEBERMAN #general

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

I've become increasingly uncomfortable reading the recent messages about
Sen. (and Hadassah) Lieberman's roots. He has become a prominent Jewish
public figure and we are curious about his ancestry. But I'm troubled that
curiosity (or impatience) seems to be a sufficient reason to research and
publicize personal family details without his permission. The political
question of how big a zone of privacy should surround public officials is
not appropriate for this forum. But the genealogical question is appropriate
-- just because we _can_ research and publish someone's ancestry does it mean
we _should_?

Many of us are skilled researchers who can dig up considerable genealogical
data >from public sources. Demonstrating those skills by reporting personal
data about someone else, even a public figure, seems to me to be a highly
questionable practice. Why do we need to know?

There has been much discussion on this forum over the years on what personal
information should remain private. FTJP, for example, does not publish
personal information about living people. Although the same standards may
not apply to public officials, some self restraint is in order. If the news
media wishes to delve deeply into someone's background for some perceived
political purpose, there is nothing we can do to stop them, but we shouldn't
be a party to it, simply because we can.

Of course, if you are researching the Lieberman surname and want to know
whether you now have a famous relative, feel free to compare notes among
yourselves, but please don't post it publicly.

Mike Meshenberg

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks to all who shared their thoughts on this
issue. We hear you, and after further review consider the
continuation of this thread an invasion of the privacy of a
living individual and not in accord with our policy. Please
see JewishGen's privacy policy at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/disclaimer.html

Anyone wishing to continue the study of the Lieberman family
genealogy is welcome to do so, privately.

Carol W. Skydell Jewishgen Vice President of Operations


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Roots of Senator Joseph LIEBERMAN #general

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

I've become increasingly uncomfortable reading the recent messages about
Sen. (and Hadassah) Lieberman's roots. He has become a prominent Jewish
public figure and we are curious about his ancestry. But I'm troubled that
curiosity (or impatience) seems to be a sufficient reason to research and
publicize personal family details without his permission. The political
question of how big a zone of privacy should surround public officials is
not appropriate for this forum. But the genealogical question is appropriate
-- just because we _can_ research and publish someone's ancestry does it mean
we _should_?

Many of us are skilled researchers who can dig up considerable genealogical
data >from public sources. Demonstrating those skills by reporting personal
data about someone else, even a public figure, seems to me to be a highly
questionable practice. Why do we need to know?

There has been much discussion on this forum over the years on what personal
information should remain private. FTJP, for example, does not publish
personal information about living people. Although the same standards may
not apply to public officials, some self restraint is in order. If the news
media wishes to delve deeply into someone's background for some perceived
political purpose, there is nothing we can do to stop them, but we shouldn't
be a party to it, simply because we can.

Of course, if you are researching the Lieberman surname and want to know
whether you now have a famous relative, feel free to compare notes among
yourselves, but please don't post it publicly.

Mike Meshenberg

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks to all who shared their thoughts on this
issue. We hear you, and after further review consider the
continuation of this thread an invasion of the privacy of a
living individual and not in accord with our policy. Please
see JewishGen's privacy policy at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/disclaimer.html

Anyone wishing to continue the study of the Lieberman family
genealogy is welcome to do so, privately.

Carol W. Skydell Jewishgen Vice President of Operations


Senator Lieberman #general

Dennis Gries <dgries@...>
 

To all,
This board is intended to be about genealogy - ours.

It happens to focus on Jewish genealogy - again - ours.

We should all be focusing on that and not every Jewish person
in the news. If Joseph Lieberman wants to do his "roots" or
engage someone to do the same - privately, fine. Perhaps he
and Hadassah already have this genealogy in their possession.
Should the party/parties posting their intention to research
coordinate with the Liebermans? I think so. Look at the recent
threads about privacy or sharing of family histories.

Time will tell how this election will turn out, but whether
a candidate is Catholic (JFK), Baptist, or whatever... is
irrelevant. All of us should be identifying with a candidate
based on issues - and issues only.

Dennis Gries - Fort Washington PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Senator Lieberman #general

Dennis Gries <dgries@...>
 

To all,
This board is intended to be about genealogy - ours.

It happens to focus on Jewish genealogy - again - ours.

We should all be focusing on that and not every Jewish person
in the news. If Joseph Lieberman wants to do his "roots" or
engage someone to do the same - privately, fine. Perhaps he
and Hadassah already have this genealogy in their possession.
Should the party/parties posting their intention to research
coordinate with the Liebermans? I think so. Look at the recent
threads about privacy or sharing of family histories.

Time will tell how this election will turn out, but whether
a candidate is Catholic (JFK), Baptist, or whatever... is
irrelevant. All of us should be identifying with a candidate
based on issues - and issues only.

Dennis Gries - Fort Washington PA


Thanks Jim Yarin #general

GenieMona@...
 

Thank you Jim Yarin for your quick research. We all are interested in Joe
Lieberman's genealogy.

Mona Freedman Morris
Boca Raton, FL
Author of Scattered Seeds: A Guide to Jewish Genealogy
Searching for:
Visheiski, Balberg,(Poland, Lithuania), Gredinger (Piatra Neamst),
Schwartz (Iasi), Fridman (Pruzhany), Leibovicz, Pik, Pomierience (Malcz)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks Jim Yarin #general

GenieMona@...
 

Thank you Jim Yarin for your quick research. We all are interested in Joe
Lieberman's genealogy.

Mona Freedman Morris
Boca Raton, FL
Author of Scattered Seeds: A Guide to Jewish Genealogy
Searching for:
Visheiski, Balberg,(Poland, Lithuania), Gredinger (Piatra Neamst),
Schwartz (Iasi), Fridman (Pruzhany), Leibovicz, Pik, Pomierience (Malcz)


Searching for place of birth - Name STAMMER - from Glacicia #galicia

Peter Oppenheim <oppenheim@...>
 

Hello all

I am trying to find out the place of birth of my grand father.

Name: STAMMER Hersch Laib
Date of birth: 9.8.1882
Place: According to a certificate of birth he is born
in Szczerzec - Region Lemberg
But I did not find the mentioned place on a map - Hoping that the place
is in the area of Przemysl I got in contact with these people, but I
received a negative answer.

I hope very much that someone who is reading these lines can help me, or
give me some helpful information.

Kind regards,

Peter Oppenheim
Chalenstr. 8 - 8123 Ebmatingen
Switzerland
Oppenheim@swissonline.ch

[Peter, please turn OFF the MIME and HTML options in your email program.
Thank you, MODERATOR on duty]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching for place of birth - Name STAMMER - from Glacicia #galicia

Peter Oppenheim <oppenheim@...>
 

Hello all

I am trying to find out the place of birth of my grand father.

Name: STAMMER Hersch Laib
Date of birth: 9.8.1882
Place: According to a certificate of birth he is born
in Szczerzec - Region Lemberg
But I did not find the mentioned place on a map - Hoping that the place
is in the area of Przemysl I got in contact with these people, but I
received a negative answer.

I hope very much that someone who is reading these lines can help me, or
give me some helpful information.

Kind regards,

Peter Oppenheim
Chalenstr. 8 - 8123 Ebmatingen
Switzerland
Oppenheim@swissonline.ch

[Peter, please turn OFF the MIME and HTML options in your email program.
Thank you, MODERATOR on duty]


Przemysl and Rzeszow #galicia

Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
 

Carole,
Przemysl and Rzeszow are cities/towns not districts. Przemysl is in Ukraine and
Rzeszow is in Poland now.
I believe Beckie is short for Rebecca not Sarah.
I would suggests if you are going to continue researching get current maps,
and 19th century maps of the area. You can always use Mapquest through
Jewishgen when you enter the city you are searching, you will be able to get
the coordinates. Punch those in and out comes a map.
Phyllis Cole
New Jersey

Researching: SCHMETTERER -Kuty,Ukraine, DATTLEKRAMER Sambor,Ukraine

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be sure to give a meaningful subject line. - MODERATOR]

I just received my grandfather's SS-5 application and for the first time, I
read that he lists Rzeszow, Poland as his birth place. The only other way
that I have seen him list anything was Galicia, Austria and his sister
stating Przemysl. But both of these are districts, aren't they? Can
anyone
clue me in on what to do next please. Again, I list my GF as LOUIS (LEIB)
ELIAN, his sister as MOLLIE (MALKA) ELIAN, and one brother as SAM (SIMEON)
ELIAN. My gf's date of birth was December 15, 1889. I also only knew that
his parents' name were REUVEN ELIAN and SARAH. Now, the SS-5 says his
mother's full maiden name was BECKIE BEIDES or BERDES, I cannot be sure.
Yet, I wonder if this is an error because my gm's name was BECKIE, or else
SARAH was her Hebrew name. The more I learn, the harder it is to put the
puzzle pieces together. Thank you.
Carole L. Whitehead


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Przemysl and Rzeszow #galicia

Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
 

Carole,
Przemysl and Rzeszow are cities/towns not districts. Przemysl is in Ukraine and
Rzeszow is in Poland now.
I believe Beckie is short for Rebecca not Sarah.
I would suggests if you are going to continue researching get current maps,
and 19th century maps of the area. You can always use Mapquest through
Jewishgen when you enter the city you are searching, you will be able to get
the coordinates. Punch those in and out comes a map.
Phyllis Cole
New Jersey

Researching: SCHMETTERER -Kuty,Ukraine, DATTLEKRAMER Sambor,Ukraine

[please be careful NOT to quote the entire Digest in your response and
be sure to give a meaningful subject line. - MODERATOR]

I just received my grandfather's SS-5 application and for the first time, I
read that he lists Rzeszow, Poland as his birth place. The only other way
that I have seen him list anything was Galicia, Austria and his sister
stating Przemysl. But both of these are districts, aren't they? Can
anyone
clue me in on what to do next please. Again, I list my GF as LOUIS (LEIB)
ELIAN, his sister as MOLLIE (MALKA) ELIAN, and one brother as SAM (SIMEON)
ELIAN. My gf's date of birth was December 15, 1889. I also only knew that
his parents' name were REUVEN ELIAN and SARAH. Now, the SS-5 says his
mother's full maiden name was BECKIE BEIDES or BERDES, I cannot be sure.
Yet, I wonder if this is an error because my gm's name was BECKIE, or else
SARAH was her Hebrew name. The more I learn, the harder it is to put the
puzzle pieces together. Thank you.
Carole L. Whitehead


Holocaust calendar #galicia

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Awhile back, we began to compile a list of formal Holocaust
memorial dates for individual towns in East Galicia and put them
on a web page in calendar form. See
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/memdates/yizcal.htm

Alot of people showed interest, even enthusiasm, but thusfar we
have barely a dozen towns represented.

Please have a look and give me the dates for your towns.

Israel Pickholtz


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Holocaust calendar #galicia

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Awhile back, we began to compile a list of formal Holocaust
memorial dates for individual towns in East Galicia and put them
on a web page in calendar form. See
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/memdates/yizcal.htm

Alot of people showed interest, even enthusiasm, but thusfar we
have barely a dozen towns represented.

Please have a look and give me the dates for your towns.

Israel Pickholtz


New Names - GOLDENHIRSH, FINKELSHTEIN, LOTKEN, SINGMAN #belarus

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

As there are very few Singman surnames in the
NYC area to research and because three women
in my family have the name Rebecca or Becky, I
am inviting anyone who may recognize the following
marriage certificate to get in touch with me.

I found at the Municipal Archives in Manhattan the
following marriage certificate dated l893:

Becky Singman age 21 to Dawid ? Goldenhirsh, age 24
both now residing at 393 Bushing St., Brooklyn.
Becky's father is Wolf Singman, 73 Ludlow St. Manhattan
Her mother: Aige Finekshtein
Dawid's father is Simcha or Simeon Goldenhirst, 73 Ludlow
His mother is Mindel Lotken
All are >from Russia

I am not sure of the groom's first name as the ink quill goes
in and out and it is very difficult to read. I do have a possible
William Singman as the family story goes who died in the l890s
of TB, a painter. He could be the brother or elder son of my
greatgrandfather Yehuda Schumkav (Julius Singman in NY).
So I was intrigued when I found Wolf Singman as the bride's
father. I do not know of any of the siblings of my greatgrand
father, but I know his mother, daughter and granddaughter were
named Becky or Rebecca. So it is possible that a brother of his
would also name a child Becky.

If any of these four surnames are familiar to anyone, please
let me know.

Diane Glazer Jacobs
New York
Researching
SINGMAN, SCHUMKAV, LESNIE, LEVY, STEINBERG, ROSENBERG,
HYMES, EICHEL, ICHEL, MULLER, SHALTAKOFF, SHALTKOFF from
Vilna, Lithuania, Galicia and other places.
BEGIN, BEGUN, BAGOON Pinsk and Israel
GLAZER, HEARN, RABINOWITZ, JOSEPH, GREENFIELD, RAYFIELD

from Kartuz Bereza, Argentina and elsewhere


Belarus SIG #Belarus New Names - GOLDENHIRSH, FINKELSHTEIN, LOTKEN, SINGMAN #belarus

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

As there are very few Singman surnames in the
NYC area to research and because three women
in my family have the name Rebecca or Becky, I
am inviting anyone who may recognize the following
marriage certificate to get in touch with me.

I found at the Municipal Archives in Manhattan the
following marriage certificate dated l893:

Becky Singman age 21 to Dawid ? Goldenhirsh, age 24
both now residing at 393 Bushing St., Brooklyn.
Becky's father is Wolf Singman, 73 Ludlow St. Manhattan
Her mother: Aige Finekshtein
Dawid's father is Simcha or Simeon Goldenhirst, 73 Ludlow
His mother is Mindel Lotken
All are >from Russia

I am not sure of the groom's first name as the ink quill goes
in and out and it is very difficult to read. I do have a possible
William Singman as the family story goes who died in the l890s
of TB, a painter. He could be the brother or elder son of my
greatgrandfather Yehuda Schumkav (Julius Singman in NY).
So I was intrigued when I found Wolf Singman as the bride's
father. I do not know of any of the siblings of my greatgrand
father, but I know his mother, daughter and granddaughter were
named Becky or Rebecca. So it is possible that a brother of his
would also name a child Becky.

If any of these four surnames are familiar to anyone, please
let me know.

Diane Glazer Jacobs
New York
Researching
SINGMAN, SCHUMKAV, LESNIE, LEVY, STEINBERG, ROSENBERG,
HYMES, EICHEL, ICHEL, MULLER, SHALTAKOFF, SHALTKOFF from
Vilna, Lithuania, Galicia and other places.
BEGIN, BEGUN, BAGOON Pinsk and Israel
GLAZER, HEARN, RABINOWITZ, JOSEPH, GREENFIELD, RAYFIELD

from Kartuz Bereza, Argentina and elsewhere


The Golden Age of Polish Jewry #belarus

shlomo gurevich <shl_gur@...>
 

The Horowitz Families Association and the Diaspora Museum are glad to
announce about one-day seminary and meeting of the families on the subject:
"The Golden Age of Polish Jewry", which is going to be held at Tel Aviv
Diaspora Museum (Beit Ha-Tfutzot), on Monday, the 18th of September, 2000 at
17:00. The meeting's agenda can be found (in Hebrew) at
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur/meeting2.htm
For more details please contact the Association's Secretary, Dr. Menashe
Horowitz: menorick@internet-zahav.net

Shlomo Gurevich,
The Russian-speaking representative of the Horowitz Families Association,
Israel
shl_gur@hotmail.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus The Golden Age of Polish Jewry #belarus

shlomo gurevich <shl_gur@...>
 

The Horowitz Families Association and the Diaspora Museum are glad to
announce about one-day seminary and meeting of the families on the subject:
"The Golden Age of Polish Jewry", which is going to be held at Tel Aviv
Diaspora Museum (Beit Ha-Tfutzot), on Monday, the 18th of September, 2000 at
17:00. The meeting's agenda can be found (in Hebrew) at
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur/meeting2.htm
For more details please contact the Association's Secretary, Dr. Menashe
Horowitz: menorick@internet-zahav.net

Shlomo Gurevich,
The Russian-speaking representative of the Horowitz Families Association,
Israel
shl_gur@hotmail.com