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Samuel HOFFMAN(from Bucgzacs, Austria/Lodz, Poland) #general

Maria Krane
 

Hi Genners,
I have copies of two Social Security applications for Samuel Hoffman.
One Samuel Hoffman is >from Buczacz (sp?) Austria and the other is from
Lodz, Poland. Neither of them is mine. If either application belongs to
your family, please respond privately and I will happily mail it to you.

Regards,
Maria Krane, Pembroke Pines, Florida USA
MariaKrane@...
Researching: KREIN/SHULDINER Zagare/Vegery Lithuania and Riga, Latvia,
HOFFMAN/RACHMAN Salakas, Lithuania and SVIR Belarus
HOFFMAN/RACHMAN, RIMER, KATZ Salakas (Zarasai) Lithuania
KERBEL/METZGER/LEVIN >from Kovno, Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Samuel HOFFMAN(from Bucgzacs, Austria/Lodz, Poland) #general

Maria Krane
 

Hi Genners,
I have copies of two Social Security applications for Samuel Hoffman.
One Samuel Hoffman is >from Buczacz (sp?) Austria and the other is from
Lodz, Poland. Neither of them is mine. If either application belongs to
your family, please respond privately and I will happily mail it to you.

Regards,
Maria Krane, Pembroke Pines, Florida USA
MariaKrane@...
Researching: KREIN/SHULDINER Zagare/Vegery Lithuania and Riga, Latvia,
HOFFMAN/RACHMAN Salakas, Lithuania and SVIR Belarus
HOFFMAN/RACHMAN, RIMER, KATZ Salakas (Zarasai) Lithuania
KERBEL/METZGER/LEVIN >from Kovno, Lithuania


Re: Horoduk, Goroduk #general

Alan Kolnik <Alank287@...>
 

There are a lot of towns in that area with "Horodok" or "Gorodok" in the
name, and its really a problem of transliteration, not a difference in the
name.

Alan Kolnik


<Bubbichar@...> wrote:
In one of many maps, I find more than one village under the name,
Goroduk or sound alikes. How can I be sure the town I want is our family
town? My living older relatives say the family (RUBENSTEIN) came >from this
town outside of Minsk. Well, there seems to be three of them just outside
of Minsk...Thank's for your help..


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Horoduk, Goroduk #general

Alan Kolnik <Alank287@...>
 

There are a lot of towns in that area with "Horodok" or "Gorodok" in the
name, and its really a problem of transliteration, not a difference in the
name.

Alan Kolnik


<Bubbichar@...> wrote:
In one of many maps, I find more than one village under the name,
Goroduk or sound alikes. How can I be sure the town I want is our family
town? My living older relatives say the family (RUBENSTEIN) came >from this
town outside of Minsk. Well, there seems to be three of them just outside
of Minsk...Thank's for your help..


Re: No Spammers Please Explain #general

Herb <hvb@...>
 

The NOSPAM or other "munging" prevents people/companies from
automatically finding e-mail addresses for their spam mailing lists.

To respond directly, (assuming the e-mail address is otherwise valid),
remove the obvious anti-spam text. For example, in mine on this note,
delete the words "DONTSPAM". Sometimes it's a bit more clever, such as
in JOHN@..., in which case you'd have to "get the lead out".

In some cases, the from: or reply-to: fields are totally unusable, in
which case there should be a readable e-mail address in the text of the
message, possibly as part of the signature. You may still have to do
more than just copy it; for instance, I might have a signature such as:

Herb Van Brink
Los Angeles, CA
h v b at e e p h dot com

Which, again, makes it difficult for spammers to automatically collect
an e-mail address >from the text.

Note that s.g.j [soc.genealogy.jewish = JewishGen Discussion Group]
is a moderated group, and one of its rules is that posters supply
a real name. Unmoderated newsgroups have no such requirement, and
names and addresses are often completely anonymous.


Carol Raspler wrote:

Not all of us are totally computer literate - yet. So for our sake, could
those of you with this "no spam" business in your addresses please tell
us exactly how to contact you when you send a letter to the Discussion
Group? Or am I out of line here?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: No Spammers Please Explain #general

Herb <hvb@...>
 

The NOSPAM or other "munging" prevents people/companies from
automatically finding e-mail addresses for their spam mailing lists.

To respond directly, (assuming the e-mail address is otherwise valid),
remove the obvious anti-spam text. For example, in mine on this note,
delete the words "DONTSPAM". Sometimes it's a bit more clever, such as
in JOHN@..., in which case you'd have to "get the lead out".

In some cases, the from: or reply-to: fields are totally unusable, in
which case there should be a readable e-mail address in the text of the
message, possibly as part of the signature. You may still have to do
more than just copy it; for instance, I might have a signature such as:

Herb Van Brink
Los Angeles, CA
h v b at e e p h dot com

Which, again, makes it difficult for spammers to automatically collect
an e-mail address >from the text.

Note that s.g.j [soc.genealogy.jewish = JewishGen Discussion Group]
is a moderated group, and one of its rules is that posters supply
a real name. Unmoderated newsgroups have no such requirement, and
names and addresses are often completely anonymous.


Carol Raspler wrote:

Not all of us are totally computer literate - yet. So for our sake, could
those of you with this "no spam" business in your addresses please tell
us exactly how to contact you when you send a letter to the Discussion
Group? Or am I out of line here?


New e-mail address #general

tiigrs@...
 

Shalom to everyone,

I would like to inform you that I have a new E-mail address:

tiigrs@...

Please take note of the new address.

David Robert Sealtiel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New e-mail address #general

tiigrs@...
 

Shalom to everyone,

I would like to inform you that I have a new E-mail address:

tiigrs@...

Please take note of the new address.

David Robert Sealtiel


Re: Shalom Tomaszow Mazowiecki! #lodz #poland

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

Congratulations to Hadassah Lipsius for a great achievment for all TM
roots seekers now and in the future...

In addition I remind you all that I have posted in the name of Benjmain
Yaari (Wald),
chairman of the Tomaszow Mazowiecki Landsmanschaften in Israel, their book:
"Tomaszow Mazowiecki Jewish Cemetery". See:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/tomaszow/tomaszow.htm

The database will be added soon to the new growing JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry- OWBR at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman

----- Original Message -----
From: Lodz Area Research Group digest <lodz@...>
To: lodz digest recipients <lodz@...>
Sent: 19 August 2000 08:01
Subject: lodz digest: August 18, 2000

Subject: Tomaszow Mazowiecki Report
From: Ploniamoni@...
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:58:46 EDT
X-Message-Number: 2

Hadassah Lipsius has asked me to post this on LARG for her.

thanks,


Ruth

***************
To: The Lodz Area Research Group
From: Hadassah Lipsius

I am happy to say that last week, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland added to
their database the Tomaszow Mazowiecki indices data >from the Polish State
Archives. This data comes >from the years that were not microfilmed by the
LDS. The JRI-Poland database now contains indices information >from 15,840
records.

I have already heard >from people who have yielded new clues in their
research >from this information.

Tomaszow Mazowiecki was in Lodz Province and Piotrkow Gubernia. It is one
of those newer Polish towns in that, the town was started in the 1820's
and
the Jewish community was officially recognized in the early 1830's. Some
of us can connect our families to the original Jewish community
organizers.

Many thanks to my fellow Tomaszowers and the JRI-Poland gang who made this
effort possible.

Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland
Tomaszow Mazowiecki Town coordinator


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Shalom Tomaszow Mazowiecki! #lodz #poland

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

Congratulations to Hadassah Lipsius for a great achievment for all TM
roots seekers now and in the future...

In addition I remind you all that I have posted in the name of Benjmain
Yaari (Wald),
chairman of the Tomaszow Mazowiecki Landsmanschaften in Israel, their book:
"Tomaszow Mazowiecki Jewish Cemetery". See:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/tomaszow/tomaszow.htm

The database will be added soon to the new growing JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry- OWBR at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman

----- Original Message -----
From: Lodz Area Research Group digest <lodz@...>
To: lodz digest recipients <lodz@...>
Sent: 19 August 2000 08:01
Subject: lodz digest: August 18, 2000

Subject: Tomaszow Mazowiecki Report
From: Ploniamoni@...
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:58:46 EDT
X-Message-Number: 2

Hadassah Lipsius has asked me to post this on LARG for her.

thanks,


Ruth

***************
To: The Lodz Area Research Group
From: Hadassah Lipsius

I am happy to say that last week, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland added to
their database the Tomaszow Mazowiecki indices data >from the Polish State
Archives. This data comes >from the years that were not microfilmed by the
LDS. The JRI-Poland database now contains indices information >from 15,840
records.

I have already heard >from people who have yielded new clues in their
research >from this information.

Tomaszow Mazowiecki was in Lodz Province and Piotrkow Gubernia. It is one
of those newer Polish towns in that, the town was started in the 1820's
and
the Jewish community was officially recognized in the early 1830's. Some
of us can connect our families to the original Jewish community
organizers.

Many thanks to my fellow Tomaszowers and the JRI-Poland gang who made this
effort possible.

Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland
Tomaszow Mazowiecki Town coordinator


ROKASH/RAKOZCY problem: #galicia

victor@...
 

I've been searching, without much success, for the history of a family
named ROKASH. I have documentation that they lived in Tarnow (in Little
Poland) >from the beginning of the 19th century to the beginning of the 20th
century (some may have moved to the Lublin area in the 1870's).
This family has a strange tradition that goes back to the end of the 19th
century. The story goes that one day after synagogue services Shmuel
ROKASH (who was living in Jerusalem at the time) was approached by a
stranger who, after examining the name embroidered on his Talit bag, asked
him if he was Shmuel ROKASH son of Shlomo Mordechai son of Shmuel of Tarnow
etc. When Shmuel affirmed the relationship the stranger told him that his
family originated >from a convert to Judaism of the Hungarian princely
RAKOZCY family (between 1650 and 1700) and furnished him with documental
evidence to that effect. Conveniently, the document was lost, but the
evidence was apparently convincing enough that Shmuel ROKASH and his
brother Haim changed their name to Shmuel and Haim RAKOZCY. I have
business documents of Shmuel and Haim (>from Jerusalem) that show the name
change.

Another interest aspect of the problem of the ROKASH/RAKOZCY problem:
About 30 years ago I was made aware of a book on important Jewish lineages
which records the marriage of a daughter of the SCHAPPSCUCHEN/SCHAPP
rabbinical family with a Hungarian noble convert. Apparently the SCHAPP
family emigrated to Hungary or Transylvania during the troubles of the
1640's and while residing there a daughter of the family married a
converted Hungarian "Prince."Unfortunately I do not remember the name of
the book and have no idea where to look for it.

The name Rokash is rare and other than family documents and Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland (JIRI) there is no extant data on this family. Do you
have any idea where I can obtain further records or info on this family and
if there is any way their claim to Hungarian nobility can be checked?
Thank you, and sorry for the long letter.

Yours,

Victor ben-reshef
Galil Haelyon
ISRAEL
victor@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia ROKASH/RAKOZCY problem: #galicia

victor@...
 

I've been searching, without much success, for the history of a family
named ROKASH. I have documentation that they lived in Tarnow (in Little
Poland) >from the beginning of the 19th century to the beginning of the 20th
century (some may have moved to the Lublin area in the 1870's).
This family has a strange tradition that goes back to the end of the 19th
century. The story goes that one day after synagogue services Shmuel
ROKASH (who was living in Jerusalem at the time) was approached by a
stranger who, after examining the name embroidered on his Talit bag, asked
him if he was Shmuel ROKASH son of Shlomo Mordechai son of Shmuel of Tarnow
etc. When Shmuel affirmed the relationship the stranger told him that his
family originated >from a convert to Judaism of the Hungarian princely
RAKOZCY family (between 1650 and 1700) and furnished him with documental
evidence to that effect. Conveniently, the document was lost, but the
evidence was apparently convincing enough that Shmuel ROKASH and his
brother Haim changed their name to Shmuel and Haim RAKOZCY. I have
business documents of Shmuel and Haim (>from Jerusalem) that show the name
change.

Another interest aspect of the problem of the ROKASH/RAKOZCY problem:
About 30 years ago I was made aware of a book on important Jewish lineages
which records the marriage of a daughter of the SCHAPPSCUCHEN/SCHAPP
rabbinical family with a Hungarian noble convert. Apparently the SCHAPP
family emigrated to Hungary or Transylvania during the troubles of the
1640's and while residing there a daughter of the family married a
converted Hungarian "Prince."Unfortunately I do not remember the name of
the book and have no idea where to look for it.

The name Rokash is rare and other than family documents and Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland (JIRI) there is no extant data on this family. Do you
have any idea where I can obtain further records or info on this family and
if there is any way their claim to Hungarian nobility can be checked?
Thank you, and sorry for the long letter.

Yours,

Victor ben-reshef
Galil Haelyon
ISRAEL
victor@...


LEHRER / FISCH from Lutowiska #galicia

Daniel Teichman <106607.620@...>
 

Lutowiska (4915 / 2242) is today in Poland, was also called Litevisk,
Litovisk, Lutoviska, and is 69 km (sorry, living in Europe I am not familiar
with miles) south of Przemysl.

My wife's great-great-grandparents lived in Lutowiska: Schmuel FISCH and
Chawa URI. Family tradition has it that the father of Schmuel FISCH was
originally called Fischel LEHRER, but people made a joke and called him
"Fischel Regirer Fisch" and finally he changed his last name >from LEHRER to
FISCH. He must have lived in Lutowiska in the second half of 19th century.
He was a "Bojaner Chassid" and often traveled to the "Bianer Rebbe". He
probably died between 1904 and 1911.

His wife, Chawa URI, was a descendant of the first Dynover Rebbe, Zvi
Elimelech Spira. I have her death certificate which says that she died in
Zagorz in 1932 at the age of 82.

The couple is said to have had 16 children, many of them died as infants. I
have data of six children.

Any hints, help etc. is mostly appreciated.

Other villages I am researching in Galicia are:
Zagorz: FISCH
Turka. : FISCH, WALD

Daniel Teichman
Zurich, Switzerland
e-mail: Daniel.Teichman@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia LEHRER / FISCH from Lutowiska #galicia

Daniel Teichman <106607.620@...>
 

Lutowiska (4915 / 2242) is today in Poland, was also called Litevisk,
Litovisk, Lutoviska, and is 69 km (sorry, living in Europe I am not familiar
with miles) south of Przemysl.

My wife's great-great-grandparents lived in Lutowiska: Schmuel FISCH and
Chawa URI. Family tradition has it that the father of Schmuel FISCH was
originally called Fischel LEHRER, but people made a joke and called him
"Fischel Regirer Fisch" and finally he changed his last name >from LEHRER to
FISCH. He must have lived in Lutowiska in the second half of 19th century.
He was a "Bojaner Chassid" and often traveled to the "Bianer Rebbe". He
probably died between 1904 and 1911.

His wife, Chawa URI, was a descendant of the first Dynover Rebbe, Zvi
Elimelech Spira. I have her death certificate which says that she died in
Zagorz in 1932 at the age of 82.

The couple is said to have had 16 children, many of them died as infants. I
have data of six children.

Any hints, help etc. is mostly appreciated.

Other villages I am researching in Galicia are:
Zagorz: FISCH
Turka. : FISCH, WALD

Daniel Teichman
Zurich, Switzerland
e-mail: Daniel.Teichman@...


Re: American Israelite and AJHS #usa

Lucinda and Fred Davis <fdavis@...>
 

Regarding the recent inquiry about the American Israelite index. I
recommend looking at an article I wrote with Warren Blatt a few years ago
about the genealogically important holdings of the American Jewish
Historical Society (AJHS). The AJHS is a great institution which is of
tremendous importance to anyone pursuing American Jewish genealogy. Our
article can be read at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/jgsgb/ajhs.html

Once you get to the site, you can use your browser's Find function to
search for "American Israelite."

There is a lot of other information in that article that will be of
interest to readers of this discussion group.

One point in the article is a bit outdated -- the AJHS is now also
established in New York City at the Center for Jewish History, in addition
to its site in Waltham, Massachusetts. Therefore, it is very important to
contact them in advance of any visit to determine which site holds material
of interest. The descriptions of their holdings in our article are still
mostly accurate. To contact the AJHS directly (I have no official
connection), see their own website:

http://www.ajhs.org/

Another website we created,

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/ajhs.htm

is an important source to learn about the unique holdings of the American
Jewish Historical Society. At this site, one can search or browse the
annotated listings of AJHS' substantial manuscript collections. Note that
this is the only website that lists any of AJHS's holdings, and it involves
the 1000 or so manuscript collections (some of which themselves are very,
very large). It does not cover other categories of their holdings,
such as their periodicals or books.

Regarding books, though, also of recent interest, AJHS does have a very
sizeable collection of books about Jewish communities all over the
Americas.

I hope all of you will benefit >from the AJHS's treasure-trove of historical
material. (As of this writing, there have been 8108 visitors to the
database website since we established it about 1 1/2 years ago.)

Best of luck to this new SIG.

Fred Davis Medfield, Massachusetts fdavis@...


Early American SIG #USA Re: American Israelite and AJHS #usa

Lucinda and Fred Davis <fdavis@...>
 

Regarding the recent inquiry about the American Israelite index. I
recommend looking at an article I wrote with Warren Blatt a few years ago
about the genealogically important holdings of the American Jewish
Historical Society (AJHS). The AJHS is a great institution which is of
tremendous importance to anyone pursuing American Jewish genealogy. Our
article can be read at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/jgsgb/ajhs.html

Once you get to the site, you can use your browser's Find function to
search for "American Israelite."

There is a lot of other information in that article that will be of
interest to readers of this discussion group.

One point in the article is a bit outdated -- the AJHS is now also
established in New York City at the Center for Jewish History, in addition
to its site in Waltham, Massachusetts. Therefore, it is very important to
contact them in advance of any visit to determine which site holds material
of interest. The descriptions of their holdings in our article are still
mostly accurate. To contact the AJHS directly (I have no official
connection), see their own website:

http://www.ajhs.org/

Another website we created,

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/ajhs.htm

is an important source to learn about the unique holdings of the American
Jewish Historical Society. At this site, one can search or browse the
annotated listings of AJHS' substantial manuscript collections. Note that
this is the only website that lists any of AJHS's holdings, and it involves
the 1000 or so manuscript collections (some of which themselves are very,
very large). It does not cover other categories of their holdings,
such as their periodicals or books.

Regarding books, though, also of recent interest, AJHS does have a very
sizeable collection of books about Jewish communities all over the
Americas.

I hope all of you will benefit >from the AJHS's treasure-trove of historical
material. (As of this writing, there have been 8108 visitors to the
database website since we established it about 1 1/2 years ago.)

Best of luck to this new SIG.

Fred Davis Medfield, Massachusetts fdavis@...


SCHWARTZBARD - Cape Town, South Africa #southafrica

Paul W. Ginsburg <g521@...>
 

I am trying to locate the cemetery in Cape Town,
South Africa in which Samuel "Sholom"
SCHWARTZBARD is buried. SCHWARTZBARD
assassinated the Ukrainian general Petlura in
Paris in 1926. After being declared innocent
for killing Petlura, SCHWARTZBARD finally
ended moving to Cape Town, South Africa
where he passed away on March 3, 1938
(30 Adar (I) 5698).

I would greatly appreciate any information
regarding the cemetery where he is now
buried.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
http://www.sudilkov.com
Bethesda, MD


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica SCHWARTZBARD - Cape Town, South Africa #southafrica

Paul W. Ginsburg <g521@...>
 

I am trying to locate the cemetery in Cape Town,
South Africa in which Samuel "Sholom"
SCHWARTZBARD is buried. SCHWARTZBARD
assassinated the Ukrainian general Petlura in
Paris in 1926. After being declared innocent
for killing Petlura, SCHWARTZBARD finally
ended moving to Cape Town, South Africa
where he passed away on March 3, 1938
(30 Adar (I) 5698).

I would greatly appreciate any information
regarding the cemetery where he is now
buried.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
http://www.sudilkov.com
Bethesda, MD


Samuel "Sholom" SCHWARTZBARD - Cape Town, South Africa #general

Paul W. Ginsburg <g521@...>
 

I am trying to locate the cemetery in Cape Town,
South Africa in which Samuel "Sholom"
SCHWARTZBARD is buried. SCHWARTZBARD
assassinated the Ukrainian general Petlura in
Paris in 1926. After being declared innocent
for killing Petlura, SCHWARTZBARD finally
ended moving to Cape Town, South Africa
where he passed away on March 3, 1938
(30 Adar (I) 5698).

I would greatly appreciate any information
regarding the cemetery where he is now
buried.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
http://www.sudilkov.com
Bethesda, MD


LENTZNER, Herman (1886-1952), Los Angeles, CA #general

Desrx <desrx@...>
 

I am trying to learn more about this Herman Lentzner who died 13 December
1952 at Cheswic Ln (90027?). He was buried 14 Dec 1952 at Hillside
Memorial Park and the mortuary was Groman Mortuary. His wife was Tillie.
Basically, I am trying to determine if he is the brother of my great
grandmother, Liba (Lenczner) Kalkopf (1878-1941) and contact any surviving
relatives. I requested his d/c almost two months ago and have written to
the cemetery and mortuary without response. Would appreciate an obit
lookup if possible.

Thanks,

H. Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA
mcteer@...