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Samuel Fried/Freed Tolcsva or Erdohorvati Cemetery #hungary

dwiener1940@...
 

Response to Larry Briggs email

My great-grandfather, Samuel Fried, lists his birthplace as Tolcsva on
ship manifest (1888) and also on Budapest birth record (1889) of my
grandfather, Rudolf.

Can you direct me to any site/data base where I may find any
information of Samuel's siblings or other family members in Tolcsva?

Samuel emigrated with a Max Bettor, who may be a cousin.

I have found several Fried families in 1859 and 1869 Tolscva Census,
and one that lists Jakob and Amalia Rosenberg Fried with a son Samuel
(born in 1862).


Jakob (b.1819) and Amalia Rosenberg Fried (b.1820)
Etel, b.1851, m.Jacob Klein 1870
Kati, b.1855, m.Albert Grinfeld 1833
Sali, b.1857
Hani, b. 1858, m.Josef Ganzfried 1850
Ignacz, b. 1860, m.Sali Blumenfeld 1884
Samuel, b. 1862 m.Fani Brueder 1885
Abraham, b.1864, d.1880

I would be interested in researching the cemetery in Erdohorvati or
Tolcsva, if it is found. Please send link to data base.

If anyone can connect to my family, please email at dwiener1940@gmail.com

Thank you.

Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is of general interest.


Re: Oroklet.hu Burial Records #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear all,

It is important to know that oroklet.hu is NOT a list of burial records for
ALL the cemeteries listed there.
It has the burial lists for the two cemeteries in Budapest, the one in
Salgotarjani utca and the other one in Kozma utca.

But for all the other cemeteries the lists are only transcriptions of death
records >from the respective communities. Which do not fully overlap with the
people buried in the respective cemeteries. This is very important to know.
So If you don't find someone on the list it does not mean the person was not
buried there or if someone is on the list, he or she may have been buried in
another town!

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide


Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Hungary SIG #Hungary Samuel Fried/Freed Tolcsva or Erdohorvati Cemetery #hungary

dwiener1940@...
 

Response to Larry Briggs email

My great-grandfather, Samuel Fried, lists his birthplace as Tolcsva on
ship manifest (1888) and also on Budapest birth record (1889) of my
grandfather, Rudolf.

Can you direct me to any site/data base where I may find any
information of Samuel's siblings or other family members in Tolcsva?

Samuel emigrated with a Max Bettor, who may be a cousin.

I have found several Fried families in 1859 and 1869 Tolscva Census,
and one that lists Jakob and Amalia Rosenberg Fried with a son Samuel
(born in 1862).


Jakob (b.1819) and Amalia Rosenberg Fried (b.1820)
Etel, b.1851, m.Jacob Klein 1870
Kati, b.1855, m.Albert Grinfeld 1833
Sali, b.1857
Hani, b. 1858, m.Josef Ganzfried 1850
Ignacz, b. 1860, m.Sali Blumenfeld 1884
Samuel, b. 1862 m.Fani Brueder 1885
Abraham, b.1864, d.1880

I would be interested in researching the cemetery in Erdohorvati or
Tolcsva, if it is found. Please send link to data base.

If anyone can connect to my family, please email at dwiener1940@gmail.com

Thank you.

Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is of general interest.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Oroklet.hu Burial Records #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear all,

It is important to know that oroklet.hu is NOT a list of burial records for
ALL the cemeteries listed there.
It has the burial lists for the two cemeteries in Budapest, the one in
Salgotarjani utca and the other one in Kozma utca.

But for all the other cemeteries the lists are only transcriptions of death
records >from the respective communities. Which do not fully overlap with the
people buried in the respective cemeteries. This is very important to know.
So If you don't find someone on the list it does not mean the person was not
buried there or if someone is on the list, he or she may have been buried in
another town!

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide


Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Cousin in Australia #general

Renate Krakauer
 

I'm trying to find a cousin who emigrated >from Stanislawow, Poland to
Australia after the war or may have passed as Gentiles and were able to
escape before the war ended. Her father, Benedikt Treibitsch, was
married to my mother's sister, Mania (Amalia) Mandel, who was murdered
in the Holocaust. Their daughter's name was Charlotte. I don't know if
she married and if she did, what her married name would be.

If anyone knows anything about this family, please contact me at
rkrakauer@rogers.com

Renate KRAKAUER


JewishGen course: Complex Jewish Genealogy in the United States #yiddish

bounce-3286529-772983@...
 

Times change and family genealogists are becoming more genealogically
experienced, more sophisticated at researching major web sites; yet
organization and good research habits are necessary. Your best value
may be one of our personally mentored, one-on-one, JewishGen courses.

April brings our Intermediate Course, Complex Genealogical Research
in the United States.If, despite basic online research (census, vital
records), you have not yet found the Hebrew names, approximate birth
year and/or former European town(s) for your U.S. immigrant ancestors,
consider this course as it covers more complex U.S. topics such as
naturalization, manifests, death records, military and governmental
records (passports, visas, bankruptcy), and local archival research
(course begins April 3).

This 4 week genealogy course features our personal mentoring program
and our online FORUM. Students are encouraged to post an ancestral
branch, set goals for their research, and work one on one with the
instructor. We are proud of our unique, individualized format and
downloadable lessons.

Students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, search
online and interact with the instructor. Courses are open 24/7 to meet
the needs of international students. *Please* read the course
descriptions, instructor's credentials and requirements on
www.jewishgen.org/education. Course Registration is opens, tuition is
$150.

If, after reviewing the education page, you have some questions,
please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org.
Thank you
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
New York & Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cousin in Australia #general

Renate Krakauer
 

I'm trying to find a cousin who emigrated >from Stanislawow, Poland to
Australia after the war or may have passed as Gentiles and were able to
escape before the war ended. Her father, Benedikt Treibitsch, was
married to my mother's sister, Mania (Amalia) Mandel, who was murdered
in the Holocaust. Their daughter's name was Charlotte. I don't know if
she married and if she did, what her married name would be.

If anyone knows anything about this family, please contact me at
rkrakauer@rogers.com

Renate KRAKAUER


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre JewishGen course: Complex Jewish Genealogy in the United States #yiddish

bounce-3286529-772983@...
 

Times change and family genealogists are becoming more genealogically
experienced, more sophisticated at researching major web sites; yet
organization and good research habits are necessary. Your best value
may be one of our personally mentored, one-on-one, JewishGen courses.

April brings our Intermediate Course, Complex Genealogical Research
in the United States.If, despite basic online research (census, vital
records), you have not yet found the Hebrew names, approximate birth
year and/or former European town(s) for your U.S. immigrant ancestors,
consider this course as it covers more complex U.S. topics such as
naturalization, manifests, death records, military and governmental
records (passports, visas, bankruptcy), and local archival research
(course begins April 3).

This 4 week genealogy course features our personal mentoring program
and our online FORUM. Students are encouraged to post an ancestral
branch, set goals for their research, and work one on one with the
instructor. We are proud of our unique, individualized format and
downloadable lessons.

Students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, search
online and interact with the instructor. Courses are open 24/7 to meet
the needs of international students. *Please* read the course
descriptions, instructor's credentials and requirements on
www.jewishgen.org/education. Course Registration is opens, tuition is
$150.

If, after reviewing the education page, you have some questions,
please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org.
Thank you
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
New York & Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Re: New York City research questions 1912-1925 #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Jeff Miller posted requesting information about "fraternal lodges of
mutual aid, benevolent, sick-and-benefit, burial and free loan
societies formed by the immigrants themselves. .... In 1900 there were
over 1,000 societies in New York...
Any idea how to identify institutions that may have records related to a
particular family or community,"

Jeff, i wouldbegin with the Jewish Communal Register of 1918. This was
a survey of communal organizations in New York City and it has been
digitized on Google Books. For landsmanshaftenand other societies it
contains lists of officers, names and addresses. find it at The
Jewish Communal Register of New York City, 1917-1918...
https://books.google.com/books?id=islKAQAAMAAJ

For the orphanages...first try the census as the inmates at the Jewish
Orphanages were included. Note that many inmates were there
temporarily when their parents could not care for them. Second option
is the query at the Center for Jewish History which has listings from
some of the major orphanages...at
http://genealogy.cjh.org/familycollections.php
Last option is the HOH Jewish Orphanage Site that is no longer
online...but do try the the wayback machine which archived many of the
orphanage pages; you'll find the archive at https://archive.org/
Or, you could consider our New York Genealogy Class in August
(www.jewishgen.org/education)

happy hunting
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) ...KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko ...LINDNER, EICHEL from
Rohatyn, Burstyn ...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: New York City research questions 1912-1925 #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Jeff Miller posted requesting information about "fraternal lodges of
mutual aid, benevolent, sick-and-benefit, burial and free loan
societies formed by the immigrants themselves. .... In 1900 there were
over 1,000 societies in New York...
Any idea how to identify institutions that may have records related to a
particular family or community,"

Jeff, i wouldbegin with the Jewish Communal Register of 1918. This was
a survey of communal organizations in New York City and it has been
digitized on Google Books. For landsmanshaftenand other societies it
contains lists of officers, names and addresses. find it at The
Jewish Communal Register of New York City, 1917-1918...
https://books.google.com/books?id=islKAQAAMAAJ

For the orphanages...first try the census as the inmates at the Jewish
Orphanages were included. Note that many inmates were there
temporarily when their parents could not care for them. Second option
is the query at the Center for Jewish History which has listings from
some of the major orphanages...at
http://genealogy.cjh.org/familycollections.php
Last option is the HOH Jewish Orphanage Site that is no longer
online...but do try the the wayback machine which archived many of the
orphanage pages; you'll find the archive at https://archive.org/
Or, you could consider our New York Genealogy Class in August
(www.jewishgen.org/education)

happy hunting
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) ...KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko ...LINDNER, EICHEL from
Rohatyn, Burstyn ...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


death of Denise Nina Sarah GROSS? #general

Richard Gross
 

Dear fellow genners,

I'm trying to find a date and place of death for Denise Nina Sarah Gross
who was born on 30 December 1907 in Hampstead, London. Her parents were
Dr Solomon (aka Sidney) Gross and Rosetta (aka Rose) Maud Gross nee
Salaman. Denise was an artist and was unmarried. She appears on several
UK censuses and I have a record of her birth but her demise eludes me.
Can anyone help please?

Best regards
Beulah Gross in Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen death of Denise Nina Sarah GROSS? #general

Richard Gross
 

Dear fellow genners,

I'm trying to find a date and place of death for Denise Nina Sarah Gross
who was born on 30 December 1907 in Hampstead, London. Her parents were
Dr Solomon (aka Sidney) Gross and Rosetta (aka Rose) Maud Gross nee
Salaman. Denise was an artist and was unmarried. She appears on several
UK censuses and I have a record of her birth but her demise eludes me.
Can anyone help please?

Best regards
Beulah Gross in Australia


Celia Male #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Randy,

"I am very sad to inform you that Celia Male, who contributed to much to
the Austria-Czech SIG over many years has passed away peacefully in the
early morning of March 7th 2017. She had been suffering for 2 years with
cancer, but was never in pain, and died in her sleep. Her funeral will
be private for immediate family only."
Many thanks,

Simon

www.linkedin.com/in/simonmale

Simon Male <simon_male@yahoo.com>


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Celia Male #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Randy,

"I am very sad to inform you that Celia Male, who contributed to much to
the Austria-Czech SIG over many years has passed away peacefully in the
early morning of March 7th 2017. She had been suffering for 2 years with
cancer, but was never in pain, and died in her sleep. Her funeral will
be private for immediate family only."
Many thanks,

Simon

www.linkedin.com/in/simonmale

Simon Male <simon_male@yahoo.com>


Austria-Czech SIG in Boston #austria-czech

dvora.caspi@...
 

Dear Friends,

Since my trip to Prague last summer, I have been feeling a need for a
living connection with other Jews of Czech and Austrian heritage in
New England.

I am hoping to organize a get-together for us at the next meeting of
the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston on Sunday, March 26
at 12:30 pm., which will be followed by interesting talks starting at
1:30.

I have a requested a room for us and my request was accepted, at the
12:30 time slot when other SIG groups are meeting.

Please let me know if you can join me. I would love to connect with
you. My email is karpe.eidlitz@gmail.com

Best wishes >from Dvora Caspi

---------------------------------------------

The following is the officiaI information about the Boston meeting.

SIG meetings at 12:30,
Temple Emanuel, 385 Ward St., Newton, MA
Main meeting 1:30 - 4:30 pm
1:30-3:00 Three Minutes in Poland: Discovering a Lost World in a 1938
Family Film- Glenn Kurtz
3:00-4:30 The Genetic Ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews- Shai Carmi

More information at http://jgsgb.org/


JewishGen course: Complex Jewish Genealogy in the United States #austria-czech

Phyllis Kramer
 

Times change and family genealogists are becoming more genealogically
experienced, more sophisticated at researching major web sites; yet
organization and good research habits are necessary. Your best value
may be one of our personally mentored, one-on-one, JewishGen courses.

April brings our Intermediate Course, Complex Genealogical Research
in the United States.If, despite basic online research (census, vital
records), you have not yet found the Hebrew names, approximate birth
year and/or former European town(s) for your U.S. immigrant ancestors,
consider this course as it covers more complex U.S. topics such as
naturalization, manifests, death records, military and governmental
records (passports, visas, bankruptcy), and local archival research
(course begins April 3).

This 4 week genealogy course features our personal mentoring program
and our online FORUM. Students are encouraged to post an ancestral
branch, set goals for their research, and work one on one with the
instructor. We are proud of our unique, individualized format and
downloadable lessons.

Students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, search
online and interact with the instructor. Courses are open 24/7 to meet
the needs of international students. *Please* read the course
descriptions, instructor's credentials and requirements on
www.jewishgen.org/education. Course Registration is opens, tuition is
$150.

If, after reviewing the education page, you have some questions,
please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org.
Thank you
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
New York & Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Isac Ignacz PICK from Pecek or Golsch-Jenikau? #austria-czech

garybinetter@...
 

I am trying to reconcile my gg-grandfather's place of birth. I
would be grateful for your input.

An obituary for him in the Prager Tagblatt newspaper shows him being
from Pecek ('aus Pecek' - now possibly Pecky, Czechia).
His tombstone at Vienna Cemetery shows him being >from Golsch-Jenikau
('aus Golsch-Jenikau (today Golcuv Jenikov, Czechia).
Pecky is 53km (33 miles) >from Golcuv Jenikov.

Do I assume he was born in Pecky (on 22 APR 1849) and then lived in
Golcuv Jenikov?
What do you think?

Gary Binetter
garybinetter@gmail.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Austria-Czech SIG in Boston #austria-czech

dvora.caspi@...
 

Dear Friends,

Since my trip to Prague last summer, I have been feeling a need for a
living connection with other Jews of Czech and Austrian heritage in
New England.

I am hoping to organize a get-together for us at the next meeting of
the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston on Sunday, March 26
at 12:30 pm., which will be followed by interesting talks starting at
1:30.

I have a requested a room for us and my request was accepted, at the
12:30 time slot when other SIG groups are meeting.

Please let me know if you can join me. I would love to connect with
you. My email is karpe.eidlitz@gmail.com

Best wishes >from Dvora Caspi

---------------------------------------------

The following is the officiaI information about the Boston meeting.

SIG meetings at 12:30,
Temple Emanuel, 385 Ward St., Newton, MA
Main meeting 1:30 - 4:30 pm
1:30-3:00 Three Minutes in Poland: Discovering a Lost World in a 1938
Family Film- Glenn Kurtz
3:00-4:30 The Genetic Ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews- Shai Carmi

More information at http://jgsgb.org/


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech JewishGen course: Complex Jewish Genealogy in the United States #austria-czech

Phyllis Kramer
 

Times change and family genealogists are becoming more genealogically
experienced, more sophisticated at researching major web sites; yet
organization and good research habits are necessary. Your best value
may be one of our personally mentored, one-on-one, JewishGen courses.

April brings our Intermediate Course, Complex Genealogical Research
in the United States.If, despite basic online research (census, vital
records), you have not yet found the Hebrew names, approximate birth
year and/or former European town(s) for your U.S. immigrant ancestors,
consider this course as it covers more complex U.S. topics such as
naturalization, manifests, death records, military and governmental
records (passports, visas, bankruptcy), and local archival research
(course begins April 3).

This 4 week genealogy course features our personal mentoring program
and our online FORUM. Students are encouraged to post an ancestral
branch, set goals for their research, and work one on one with the
instructor. We are proud of our unique, individualized format and
downloadable lessons.

Students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, search
online and interact with the instructor. Courses are open 24/7 to meet
the needs of international students. *Please* read the course
descriptions, instructor's credentials and requirements on
www.jewishgen.org/education. Course Registration is opens, tuition is
$150.

If, after reviewing the education page, you have some questions,
please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org.
Thank you
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
New York & Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Isac Ignacz PICK from Pecek or Golsch-Jenikau? #austria-czech

garybinetter@...
 

I am trying to reconcile my gg-grandfather's place of birth. I
would be grateful for your input.

An obituary for him in the Prager Tagblatt newspaper shows him being
from Pecek ('aus Pecek' - now possibly Pecky, Czechia).
His tombstone at Vienna Cemetery shows him being >from Golsch-Jenikau
('aus Golsch-Jenikau (today Golcuv Jenikov, Czechia).
Pecky is 53km (33 miles) >from Golcuv Jenikov.

Do I assume he was born in Pecky (on 22 APR 1849) and then lived in
Golcuv Jenikov?
What do you think?

Gary Binetter
garybinetter@gmail.com

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