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JGSGW September 10, 2017 Meeting Announcement
#general
N. Kotz
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its September 2017
meeting on Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:30 pm at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD. Program: Ancestry.com: Tips and Tricks >from a Professional Genealogist Speaker: Janette Silverman As a professional genealogist, Janette Silverman spends all day, every day researching trees for many different people >from many different backgrounds. This discussion will focus on helping you navigate the many databases and search options on Ancestry.com, utilizing those shaky leaves and developing strategies for noting new finds on your own Ancestry.com tree. We will look at documents found as a result of searches on Ancestry and its partners, and how to use your own personal documents and pictures to enhance your tree. Dr. Janette Silverman is a Senior Genealogist Research Manager at ancestryProGenealogists, specializing in Jewish genealogy. Because Jewish genealogy involves so many different cultures, countries, and languages, as well as non-Jewish members of Jewish families she finds herself to be a generalist in many different areas. Janette's doctorate is in Jewish Studies and her dissertation, In Living Memory, explored her research into her own family's background in Eastern Europe and their immigration to the United States from 1885-1925. She began her family research as a hobby with her dad over 35 years ago. This hobby became an obsession and now a full-time career. Her family's origins span what is now Ukraine, Belarus and Romania - Skvira, Zhitomir, Ivano-Frankivsk, Gusiatyn, Suceawa, Tovste and Kurenets just to name a few places. She has spoken at conferences and meetings throughout the United States and overseas. Janette was the lead chair of the 2016 IAJGS conference in Seattle Washington. She has written articles published in Avotaynu, APG (Association for Professional Genealogists) Quarterly, The Galitzianer, Lineages, and The Tennessee Historical Quarterly. She is currently working on two book projects, one with her dissertation at its core, and the other about the passengers on the March 3, 1949 sailing of the SS Marine Jumper >from Hamburg to Boston. JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist them free of charge. Nancy C. Kotz VP Communications, JGSGW http://www.jgsgw.org
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6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research. (A new JGSLI Video)
#general
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island (JGSLI), winner of the IAJGS
2015 Outstanding Publication Award for its You Tube Channel, is pleased to announce its latest video, "6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research." We might be in the "Golden Age" of genealogical research. With the digitization and indexing of records, the speed of online sharing, the power of crowd-sourcing and the availability of DNA testing for genealogists, never before has so much been available to so many. But with this embarrassment of riches, how can you keep up to date on new databases and material? This video will give you "6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research." Keep in mind that since sources change so frequently, use these tips as a starting point and perform your own online searches for specific areas of interest for your research. You can access all 31 of our short instructional videos directly >from our You Tube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUV8xttIn93AwJX2_I0AIAg/feed or >from our website http://jgsli.org/ If you have any comments or recommendations for other topics, please let me know at past_pres@jgsli.org Nolan Altman JGSLI - Immediate Past President
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW September 10, 2017 Meeting Announcement
#general
N. Kotz
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its September 2017
meeting on Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:30 pm at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD. Program: Ancestry.com: Tips and Tricks >from a Professional Genealogist Speaker: Janette Silverman As a professional genealogist, Janette Silverman spends all day, every day researching trees for many different people >from many different backgrounds. This discussion will focus on helping you navigate the many databases and search options on Ancestry.com, utilizing those shaky leaves and developing strategies for noting new finds on your own Ancestry.com tree. We will look at documents found as a result of searches on Ancestry and its partners, and how to use your own personal documents and pictures to enhance your tree. Dr. Janette Silverman is a Senior Genealogist Research Manager at ancestryProGenealogists, specializing in Jewish genealogy. Because Jewish genealogy involves so many different cultures, countries, and languages, as well as non-Jewish members of Jewish families she finds herself to be a generalist in many different areas. Janette's doctorate is in Jewish Studies and her dissertation, In Living Memory, explored her research into her own family's background in Eastern Europe and their immigration to the United States from 1885-1925. She began her family research as a hobby with her dad over 35 years ago. This hobby became an obsession and now a full-time career. Her family's origins span what is now Ukraine, Belarus and Romania - Skvira, Zhitomir, Ivano-Frankivsk, Gusiatyn, Suceawa, Tovste and Kurenets just to name a few places. She has spoken at conferences and meetings throughout the United States and overseas. Janette was the lead chair of the 2016 IAJGS conference in Seattle Washington. She has written articles published in Avotaynu, APG (Association for Professional Genealogists) Quarterly, The Galitzianer, Lineages, and The Tennessee Historical Quarterly. She is currently working on two book projects, one with her dissertation at its core, and the other about the passengers on the March 3, 1949 sailing of the SS Marine Jumper >from Hamburg to Boston. JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist them free of charge. Nancy C. Kotz VP Communications, JGSGW http://www.jgsgw.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research. (A new JGSLI Video)
#general
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island (JGSLI), winner of the IAJGS
2015 Outstanding Publication Award for its You Tube Channel, is pleased to announce its latest video, "6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research." We might be in the "Golden Age" of genealogical research. With the digitization and indexing of records, the speed of online sharing, the power of crowd-sourcing and the availability of DNA testing for genealogists, never before has so much been available to so many. But with this embarrassment of riches, how can you keep up to date on new databases and material? This video will give you "6 Ways to Stay Current with Your Genealogical Research." Keep in mind that since sources change so frequently, use these tips as a starting point and perform your own online searches for specific areas of interest for your research. You can access all 31 of our short instructional videos directly >from our You Tube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUV8xttIn93AwJX2_I0AIAg/feed or >from our website http://jgsli.org/ If you have any comments or recommendations for other topics, please let me know at past_pres@jgsli.org Nolan Altman JGSLI - Immediate Past President
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VAYNSHTEYN / WAINSTAIN from KEDAINAIA
#lithuania
My tree on my maternal father's side in London are WAINSTAIN (with A's,
not E's). Back in Lithuania they were spelt with J's or Y's instead of I's. There is also the possibility that they are also connected with VEYNSHTEYN due to the way it would be pronounced - there were many >from Lithuania (mine mainly >from Kedainia) I am unable to connect my WAINSTAINs with VEYNSHTEYNs. Trying to compile a tree of VEYNSHTEYN's, there seems to be many who share th= e same 'given name' . Slotting them in, showing their parents names , siblin= gs and spouses names - then shows that dates do not correlate i.e. childrens= dates given before parents dates. Also, because of same or similar first na= mes, it would appear that brothers married sisters-in-law etc etc multiple t= imes! Has anyone else investigating VEYNSHTEYN found the same problems or pr= oduced a tree in correct order that can be shared with me? Please let me kno= w : roystar20@gmail.com Roy Star - LondonResearching : STARYSOLLER (various spellings) - Tarnopol, Zbaraz, London, Ne= w York GRUN - Tarnopol WARMAN - Tarnopol CZIGLIK - Tarnopol GERSHCOWITZ - L= ithuania GRADNER - Bialystok LINDNER - Austria=
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: VAYNSHTEYN / WAINSTAIN from KEDAINAIA
#lithuania
My tree on my maternal father's side in London are WAINSTAIN (with A's,
not E's). Back in Lithuania they were spelt with J's or Y's instead of I's. There is also the possibility that they are also connected with VEYNSHTEYN due to the way it would be pronounced - there were many >from Lithuania (mine mainly >from Kedainia) I am unable to connect my WAINSTAINs with VEYNSHTEYNs. Trying to compile a tree of VEYNSHTEYN's, there seems to be many who share th= e same 'given name' . Slotting them in, showing their parents names , siblin= gs and spouses names - then shows that dates do not correlate i.e. childrens= dates given before parents dates. Also, because of same or similar first na= mes, it would appear that brothers married sisters-in-law etc etc multiple t= imes! Has anyone else investigating VEYNSHTEYN found the same problems or pr= oduced a tree in correct order that can be shared with me? Please let me kno= w : roystar20@gmail.com Roy Star - LondonResearching : STARYSOLLER (various spellings) - Tarnopol, Zbaraz, London, Ne= w York GRUN - Tarnopol WARMAN - Tarnopol CZIGLIK - Tarnopol GERSHCOWITZ - L= ithuania GRADNER - Bialystok LINDNER - Austria=
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Fw: Visiting Tykocin & Bialystok
#poland
Ellen Mains <dranyen@...>
I am currently in Poland and will visit the old synagogue
(Beit ha-Kneset ha-Godol) in Tykocin, arriving Friday 9/15 until 9/17, then briefly pass through Bialystok. Would be grateful for any info regarding sabbath services in Tykocin that weekend, and/or any local contact or reference point for Jewish sites in Bialystok. Other suggestions also welcome of course. with appreciation, Ellen Mains dranyen@yahoo.com # in Poland: +48 793 366 441
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JRI Poland #Poland Fw: Visiting Tykocin & Bialystok
#poland
Ellen Mains <dranyen@...>
I am currently in Poland and will visit the old synagogue
(Beit ha-Kneset ha-Godol) in Tykocin, arriving Friday 9/15 until 9/17, then briefly pass through Bialystok. Would be grateful for any info regarding sabbath services in Tykocin that weekend, and/or any local contact or reference point for Jewish sites in Bialystok. Other suggestions also welcome of course. with appreciation, Ellen Mains dranyen@yahoo.com # in Poland: +48 793 366 441
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Beth Yaakov school in Trilport, France
#france
Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
There is a girls school with this name but not in Le Treport. They may
be able to tell you more about the school you are searching for : Ecole de Jeunes Filles Beth Jacob 9 chemin de Saint Pol FR - 73100 Aix les Bains Eve Line Blum Besancon (France)
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French SIG #France Beth Yaakov school in Trilport, France
#france
Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
There is a girls school with this name but not in Le Treport. They may
be able to tell you more about the school you are searching for : Ecole de Jeunes Filles Beth Jacob 9 chemin de Saint Pol FR - 73100 Aix les Bains Eve Line Blum Besancon (France)
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Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY
#general
A. E. Jordan
I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th and of course that is weather dependent. I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries. Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the office. If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave. If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc. for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me enough information. I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single person then. I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY
#general
A. E. Jordan
I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th and of course that is weather dependent. I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries. Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the office. If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave. If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc. for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me enough information. I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single person then. I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone. Allan Jordan
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Sidney NASSENFELD Life / Descendants
#general
A. E. Jordan
I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897? He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann born circa 1928. Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York. Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and died in 1994. Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died in 2002. Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life. Thank you. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sidney NASSENFELD Life / Descendants
#general
A. E. Jordan
I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897? He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann born circa 1928. Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York. Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and died in 1994. Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died in 2002. Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life. Thank you. Allan Jordan
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Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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DNA Research #DNA Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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