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Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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DNA Research #DNA Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms
#germany
David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
Hi all,
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms, Germany. Please help me understand the following about the OPPENHEIMERs: 1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer & Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations. Where is the source for doing so? 2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s) and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family? Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com
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German SIG #Germany OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms
#germany
David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
Hi all,
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms, Germany. Please help me understand the following about the OPPENHEIMERs: 1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer & Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations. Where is the source for doing so? 2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s) and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family? Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com
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Re: proving a close relationship
#dna
Michael Goldsmith <michaelg32@...>
Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount of shared DNA can never give a certain answer. I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal adoption. Michael Goldsmith Michaelg32@comcast.net
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DNA Research #DNA Re:proving a close relationship
#dna
Michael Goldsmith <michaelg32@...>
Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount of shared DNA can never give a certain answer. I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal adoption. Michael Goldsmith Michaelg32@comcast.net
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BECKER Family Tree
#general
WALTER SPECTOR
Hello Genners,
I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister. Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family. I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have not yet received a response. All assistance is greatly appreciated, Walter Spector Philadelphia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BECKER Family Tree
#general
WALTER SPECTOR
Hello Genners,
I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister. Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family. I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have not yet received a response. All assistance is greatly appreciated, Walter Spector Philadelphia
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Kehilalinks sites under development
#ukraine
mirnmike@...
I am beginning the process to develop Kehilalinks sites for two towns in the
Ukraine: Shepetivka (which our ancestors knew as Shepetovka), and Bilohirya (which our ancestors knew as Lechovitz). Please contact me if you have any pertinent information. Examples would include photos taken in these towns (including family photos), travelogs, directories, articles, letters or postcards sent >from these towns, and brief family histories. You can reach me at mirkir59@gmail.com. Thanks! Miriam Kirshner San Diego Researching NOVOSELSKY >from Shepetova, CHEICHENITZ >from Lechovitz, GELLMAN from Sudilkov, KIRSHNER >from Kishinev and/or ZHITOMER, and WALZER fromMielnica.
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The September issue of the "Galitzianer"
#ukraine
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to release the September 2017 issue of the
"Galitzianer." The featured articles in the current issue are: from the Editor's Desk by Andrew ZalewskiResearch Corner (Vital Records, Holocaust and Jewish Taxpayers Projects) by Tony Kahane Project Updates (Josephine & Franciscan Surveys and Jewish Marriage Permissions 1807) by Andrew Zalewski Brody's Memorial Books by Boerries Kuzmany World War II in the Interview with Julian Bussgang Synagogues of Galicia and Bukovina by Sergey Kravtsov Map Corner by Jay Osborn Gesher Galicia-AGAD Symposium by Tony Kahane 38th Jewish Genealogy Conference by Michal Majewski We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal. The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia. Andrew Zalewski Editor, the Galitzianer The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kehilalinks sites under development
#ukraine
mirnmike@...
I am beginning the process to develop Kehilalinks sites for two towns in the
Ukraine: Shepetivka (which our ancestors knew as Shepetovka), and Bilohirya (which our ancestors knew as Lechovitz). Please contact me if you have any pertinent information. Examples would include photos taken in these towns (including family photos), travelogs, directories, articles, letters or postcards sent >from these towns, and brief family histories. You can reach me at mirkir59@gmail.com. Thanks! Miriam Kirshner San Diego Researching NOVOSELSKY >from Shepetova, CHEICHENITZ >from Lechovitz, GELLMAN from Sudilkov, KIRSHNER >from Kishinev and/or ZHITOMER, and WALZER fromMielnica.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine The September issue of the "Galitzianer"
#ukraine
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to release the September 2017 issue of the
"Galitzianer." The featured articles in the current issue are: from the Editor's Desk by Andrew ZalewskiResearch Corner (Vital Records, Holocaust and Jewish Taxpayers Projects) by Tony Kahane Project Updates (Josephine & Franciscan Surveys and Jewish Marriage Permissions 1807) by Andrew Zalewski Brody's Memorial Books by Boerries Kuzmany World War II in the Interview with Julian Bussgang Synagogues of Galicia and Bukovina by Sergey Kravtsov Map Corner by Jay Osborn Gesher Galicia-AGAD Symposium by Tony Kahane 38th Jewish Genealogy Conference by Michal Majewski We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal. The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia. Andrew Zalewski Editor, the Galitzianer The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org
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Re: BRINKER from Stratyn
#galicia
Richard Cooper
My grateful thanks to everyone who replied to my query.
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You've given me some really useful pointers! Richard Cooper Midhurst, UK (NB: not related to any COOPERs - my grandfather changed his surname
from YAROSHEVSKY!)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re:BRINKER from Stratyn
#ukraine
Richard Cooper
My grateful thanks to everyone who replied to my query.
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You've given me some really useful pointers! Richard Cooper Midhurst, UK (NB: not related to any COOPERs - my grandfather changed his surname
from YAROSHEVSKY!)
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Sorting out the names: FELDMAN from Tur'i Remety, Hungary and Scranton, Pennsylvania
#hungary
Malka
Perhaps someone here can help me.
I have encountered a confusing situation regarding the names of my maternal great grandparents, Leba FRIEDMAN FELDMAN and Yehudah (Joseph in the USA) FELDMAN originally >from Tur?I Remety, Hungary and >from the late 1880?s, Scranton, Pennsylvania. Part of the problem comes >from the fact that their names and those of their children in Hebrew, Yiddish and English are common in both places. I do know that in Scranton the family lived at 411 Emmett. Many of their children lived in New Orleans and Texas. There were Grossman and perhaps other relatives in Nashville but I am not certain >from which side of the family, maybe >from both. There were FREED/ FREID/FRIED cousins in Galveston, Texas but I have not researched that branch ? yet. My gr-grandmother was Leba FRIEDMAN FEDMAN (parents Benjamin Solomon FRIEDMAN and Rosa JACOBS or more likely JACOBOVITZ). Her Heb/Yid name was Leba. This is known in family history and she has many descendants named Leba. This is the name on her restored matzevah (tombstone) in Scranton,PA. and in all family references such as obituaries of her children. Yet on some official BMD records for her family, census reports, City directories, etc. she is listed as Lena or Lina. Complicating this is that one of her daughters was Lena. They are both listed as Lena on the ship manifest of their USA arrival and some census records (which is not as distressing as those are famous for misinformation). My gr-grandfather was Yehudah FELDMAN which is the name on his restored matzevah and is the family name he was known by and was used for some of his descendants. All of the USA records I have found list him as Joseph. Because of this name confusion I am reluctant to do research in any Hungarian records. Any suggestions would be welcomed, Thank you Malka Lew New Orleans Relevant research: FELDMAN, Scranton, Tur?i Remety
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Sorting out the names: FELDMAN from Tur'i Remety, Hungary and Scranton, Pennsylvania
#hungary
Malka
Perhaps someone here can help me.
I have encountered a confusing situation regarding the names of my maternal great grandparents, Leba FRIEDMAN FELDMAN and Yehudah (Joseph in the USA) FELDMAN originally >from Tur?I Remety, Hungary and >from the late 1880?s, Scranton, Pennsylvania. Part of the problem comes >from the fact that their names and those of their children in Hebrew, Yiddish and English are common in both places. I do know that in Scranton the family lived at 411 Emmett. Many of their children lived in New Orleans and Texas. There were Grossman and perhaps other relatives in Nashville but I am not certain >from which side of the family, maybe >from both. There were FREED/ FREID/FRIED cousins in Galveston, Texas but I have not researched that branch ? yet. My gr-grandmother was Leba FRIEDMAN FEDMAN (parents Benjamin Solomon FRIEDMAN and Rosa JACOBS or more likely JACOBOVITZ). Her Heb/Yid name was Leba. This is known in family history and she has many descendants named Leba. This is the name on her restored matzevah (tombstone) in Scranton,PA. and in all family references such as obituaries of her children. Yet on some official BMD records for her family, census reports, City directories, etc. she is listed as Lena or Lina. Complicating this is that one of her daughters was Lena. They are both listed as Lena on the ship manifest of their USA arrival and some census records (which is not as distressing as those are famous for misinformation). My gr-grandfather was Yehudah FELDMAN which is the name on his restored matzevah and is the family name he was known by and was used for some of his descendants. All of the USA records I have found list him as Joseph. Because of this name confusion I am reluctant to do research in any Hungarian records. Any suggestions would be welcomed, Thank you Malka Lew New Orleans Relevant research: FELDMAN, Scranton, Tur?i Remety
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