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JewishGen Education Offers "Writing Short Reports" November 3-27
#france
bounce-3405908-772957@...
New Class >from JewishGen Education
JewishGen once again offers its popular publishing class November 3 - 27. This personal mentoring class will focus on writing short reports. There comes a time when you want to write up your research. After you have worked hard to collect your family data why let it sit in a drawer? Publishing a book requires an attention to detail, editing, footnotes, bibliography which often discourages us >from publishing at all. Sometimes we just want to write it out and share it in a short summary. Want to share with a relative; or compare with another researcher you find on JGFF or Ancestry or Geni or Facebook? Need to gather and organize your data to hire a researcher? Want to self-publish a small coffee table scrapbook or photobook just for fun? In this class we will help you organize your data, notes and media files to create 3 short-standardized reports. This structured class uses a series of lessons and a forum setting where you will post your work and interact with the instructor who will make suggestions as you write your rough draft, edit and finalize each report. Requirements: You should have enough data collected or knowledge of your chosen surname to be able to write their family history. You will choose one family to work on as you build a template that you can use for other families and persons of interest. JewishGen classes are taught in a private forum setting that is password protected. It is open 24/7. The 3 week class starts November 3 – 27. Tuition is $150. Details on the Education Page: check Requirements & Course Details www.JewishGen.org/education If you have further questions, please email Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org
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French SIG #France JewishGen Education Offers "Writing Short Reports" November 3-27
#france
bounce-3405908-772957@...
New Class >from JewishGen Education
JewishGen once again offers its popular publishing class November 3 - 27. This personal mentoring class will focus on writing short reports. There comes a time when you want to write up your research. After you have worked hard to collect your family data why let it sit in a drawer? Publishing a book requires an attention to detail, editing, footnotes, bibliography which often discourages us >from publishing at all. Sometimes we just want to write it out and share it in a short summary. Want to share with a relative; or compare with another researcher you find on JGFF or Ancestry or Geni or Facebook? Need to gather and organize your data to hire a researcher? Want to self-publish a small coffee table scrapbook or photobook just for fun? In this class we will help you organize your data, notes and media files to create 3 short-standardized reports. This structured class uses a series of lessons and a forum setting where you will post your work and interact with the instructor who will make suggestions as you write your rough draft, edit and finalize each report. Requirements: You should have enough data collected or knowledge of your chosen surname to be able to write their family history. You will choose one family to work on as you build a template that you can use for other families and persons of interest. JewishGen classes are taught in a private forum setting that is password protected. It is open 24/7. The 3 week class starts November 3 – 27. Tuition is $150. Details on the Education Page: check Requirements & Course Details www.JewishGen.org/education If you have further questions, please email Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org
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Explain a Centimorgan
#dna
Barry Sieger
Hi,
Can someone explain how Centimorgans predict close relationships between individuals? I know a centiMorgan (cM) is a measurement of how likely a segment of DNA is to recombine >from one generation to the next. It's also a measure of distance. I read the the explanation on isogg.org but still don't get why the more cM's your DNA has vs another individual, the more you're related. They hadn't invented cM's when I studied genetics. Thanks! Barry SIEGER Winter Park, Florida PS I'll be giving a talk on DNA to my local Jewish Genealogy Society group & it would be nice to understand Centimorgans before attempting to explain it.
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DNA Research #DNA Explain a Centimorgan
#dna
Barry Sieger
Hi,
Can someone explain how Centimorgans predict close relationships between individuals? I know a centiMorgan (cM) is a measurement of how likely a segment of DNA is to recombine >from one generation to the next. It's also a measure of distance. I read the the explanation on isogg.org but still don't get why the more cM's your DNA has vs another individual, the more you're related. They hadn't invented cM's when I studied genetics. Thanks! Barry SIEGER Winter Park, Florida PS I'll be giving a talk on DNA to my local Jewish Genealogy Society group & it would be nice to understand Centimorgans before attempting to explain it.
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2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference Facebook Groups
#austria-czech
IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications <iajgs2018@...>
Dear Jewish Genealogy Enthusiasts,
With the guidance of Robinn Magid, 2018 International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) Warsaw Conference Co-Chair, I am pleased to announce the opening of two moderated "closed" Facebook groups to keep you informed and up-to-date about the 2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference (August 5-10, 2018). A "closed" group means that the content of postings is only accessible to group members. Please join these groups on Facebook as members in order to benefit and share information to plan your conference/summer experience. The Facebook groups are: https://www.facebook.com/groups/IAJGS/ 2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference - the online meeting place to share conference announcements and bulletin board for genealogists to share information and questions about the upcoming IAJGS conference in Warsaw. https://www.facebook.com/groups/KosherSIG/ Kosher SIG - the online meeting place to share information and ask questions regarding Kosher food and minyanim opportunities at IAJGS conferences. Leora Tec and I will moderate the Warsaw Conference Facebook group, and Lara Diamond will be moderate the Kosher SIG Facebook group. I will be submitting occasional IAJGS conference-related announcements to this listserv for informational purposes only. Please direct all your questions and discussion pertinent to these topics to the new Facebook groups. Do widzenia; l'hitraot; see you later, in Warsaw! Dan Oren IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications Woodbridge, Connecticut USA
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Research Your Roots on JewishGen -- begins November 1
#austria-czech
bounce-3398068-772950@...
This course is designed for those researchers relatively new to
JewishGen who wish to use all our databases and communication facilities to explore a family branch. It's a mentored course, thus students have an instructor who will personally respond to questions, make suggestions and assist in researching the branch you choose...24/7. The course is designed to match JewishGen resources to your family knowledge; we will begin with your goals and objectives and a descendant tree of the branch you select, then gather the information about your town via JewishGen's rich databases and web pages; then we will investigate JewishGen's other resources: JGFF, FTJP, Country databases, Holocaust databases, Discussion Lists and Special Interest Groups. Please note: this course is limited to JewishGen databases and facilities; after using these, the instructor will give suggestions in the last week for alternative resources. We'll help you build an effective research plan, manage your data with our fabulous format, and give you tips and techniques to overcome research obstacles. Your course material includes 7 text based lessons (about 15 pages each), delivered online (which you can download) with hundreds of links and suggestions. *Please* review the detailed description, requirements and tuition at https://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=40052 and then contact the instructor for questions or enroll in the course. Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: https://www.JewishGen.org/education family web site: https://KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm
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New uploads to the All Galicia Database
#austria-czech
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to announce the addition of new sets of
Jewish records on the All Galicia Database <https://search.geshergalicia.org>. Budzanow (Budaniv) - Jewish marriages 1853-1908, 1910-1939. Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in Lviv (TsDIAL), Fond 701/1/26, 27. (575 records) Gliniany (Hlyniany) - Jewish deaths 1852-1876. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/73. (1,861 records) Grodek Jagiellonski (Horodok) - Jewish births 1847-1869. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/32. (1,836 records) Narajow (Narayiv) - Jewish births 1839-1869. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/222. (1,104 records). All the Jewish vital records for Budzanow, Gliniany, Grodek Jagiellonski, and Narajow held in Ukrainian state archives have now been completed and are on the All Galicia Database. Tarnopol (Ternopil) - Jewish marriages, 1859-1876. State Archive of Ternopil Oblast (DATO), Fond 33/1/716. (379 records) Gwozdziec (Hvizdets) - Jewish births (index books) 1920-1935, 1937, 1938. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-01, -02, -03. (703 records) - Jewish marriages (index books) 1936-1938. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-04, -05, -06. (48 records) - Jewish deaths (index book) 1937. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-07. (26 records) - Jewish death certificates 1921, 1922, 1925. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-09. (45 records) Jezierna (Ozerna) - Jewish births January-April 1940, August 1941-April 1942. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/253 (extract). (20 records) This is an extract >from the complete file, which covers births from 1922 to 1942 and which was indexed and put on the AGD some years ago. The Holocaust-period births have now been re-indexed, with more significant information extracted >from them, including the original town of the parents. In some cases the parents were refugees or forced migrants >from towns in the Lublin area. Potok Zloty (Zolotyi Potik) - List of completely or partially destroyed houses, 1918. TsDIAL, Fond 146/48/33, 34. (224 records) Zborow (Zboriv) - Jewish Taxpayers, 1935. DATO, Fond 231/1/3009. (172 records) Coming to the All Galicia Database in the next ten days: - Tarnopol, Jewish deaths 1926, 1929, 1930. Still to come in November/December, to complete the Vital Records project for 2017: - Rozdol, Jewish births 1828-1868 - Rudki, Jewish deaths 1850-1866 - Stanislawow, Jewish births 1926-1932 - Tarnopol, Jewish marriages 1934-1939 For further information, please contact <info@geshergalicia.org>. Please do NOT reply to this email. Tony Kahane Chair & Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia www.geshergalicia.org --- PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org ---
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech 2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference Facebook Groups
#austria-czech
IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications <iajgs2018@...>
Dear Jewish Genealogy Enthusiasts,
With the guidance of Robinn Magid, 2018 International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) Warsaw Conference Co-Chair, I am pleased to announce the opening of two moderated "closed" Facebook groups to keep you informed and up-to-date about the 2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference (August 5-10, 2018). A "closed" group means that the content of postings is only accessible to group members. Please join these groups on Facebook as members in order to benefit and share information to plan your conference/summer experience. The Facebook groups are: https://www.facebook.com/groups/IAJGS/ 2018 IAJGS Warsaw Conference - the online meeting place to share conference announcements and bulletin board for genealogists to share information and questions about the upcoming IAJGS conference in Warsaw. https://www.facebook.com/groups/KosherSIG/ Kosher SIG - the online meeting place to share information and ask questions regarding Kosher food and minyanim opportunities at IAJGS conferences. Leora Tec and I will moderate the Warsaw Conference Facebook group, and Lara Diamond will be moderate the Kosher SIG Facebook group. I will be submitting occasional IAJGS conference-related announcements to this listserv for informational purposes only. Please direct all your questions and discussion pertinent to these topics to the new Facebook groups. Do widzenia; l'hitraot; see you later, in Warsaw! Dan Oren IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications Woodbridge, Connecticut USA
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Research Your Roots on JewishGen -- begins November 1
#austria-czech
bounce-3398068-772950@...
This course is designed for those researchers relatively new to
JewishGen who wish to use all our databases and communication facilities to explore a family branch. It's a mentored course, thus students have an instructor who will personally respond to questions, make suggestions and assist in researching the branch you choose...24/7. The course is designed to match JewishGen resources to your family knowledge; we will begin with your goals and objectives and a descendant tree of the branch you select, then gather the information about your town via JewishGen's rich databases and web pages; then we will investigate JewishGen's other resources: JGFF, FTJP, Country databases, Holocaust databases, Discussion Lists and Special Interest Groups. Please note: this course is limited to JewishGen databases and facilities; after using these, the instructor will give suggestions in the last week for alternative resources. We'll help you build an effective research plan, manage your data with our fabulous format, and give you tips and techniques to overcome research obstacles. Your course material includes 7 text based lessons (about 15 pages each), delivered online (which you can download) with hundreds of links and suggestions. *Please* review the detailed description, requirements and tuition at https://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=40052 and then contact the instructor for questions or enroll in the course. Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: https://www.JewishGen.org/education family web site: https://KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech New uploads to the All Galicia Database
#austria-czech
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to announce the addition of new sets of
Jewish records on the All Galicia Database <https://search.geshergalicia.org>. Budzanow (Budaniv) - Jewish marriages 1853-1908, 1910-1939. Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in Lviv (TsDIAL), Fond 701/1/26, 27. (575 records) Gliniany (Hlyniany) - Jewish deaths 1852-1876. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/73. (1,861 records) Grodek Jagiellonski (Horodok) - Jewish births 1847-1869. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/32. (1,836 records) Narajow (Narayiv) - Jewish births 1839-1869. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/222. (1,104 records). All the Jewish vital records for Budzanow, Gliniany, Grodek Jagiellonski, and Narajow held in Ukrainian state archives have now been completed and are on the All Galicia Database. Tarnopol (Ternopil) - Jewish marriages, 1859-1876. State Archive of Ternopil Oblast (DATO), Fond 33/1/716. (379 records) Gwozdziec (Hvizdets) - Jewish births (index books) 1920-1935, 1937, 1938. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-01, -02, -03. (703 records) - Jewish marriages (index books) 1936-1938. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-04, -05, -06. (48 records) - Jewish deaths (index book) 1937. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-07. (26 records) - Jewish death certificates 1921, 1922, 1925. Przemysl State Archive, Fond 154/Gwozdziec-09. (45 records) Jezierna (Ozerna) - Jewish births January-April 1940, August 1941-April 1942. TsDIAL, Fond 701/1/253 (extract). (20 records) This is an extract >from the complete file, which covers births from 1922 to 1942 and which was indexed and put on the AGD some years ago. The Holocaust-period births have now been re-indexed, with more significant information extracted >from them, including the original town of the parents. In some cases the parents were refugees or forced migrants >from towns in the Lublin area. Potok Zloty (Zolotyi Potik) - List of completely or partially destroyed houses, 1918. TsDIAL, Fond 146/48/33, 34. (224 records) Zborow (Zboriv) - Jewish Taxpayers, 1935. DATO, Fond 231/1/3009. (172 records) Coming to the All Galicia Database in the next ten days: - Tarnopol, Jewish deaths 1926, 1929, 1930. Still to come in November/December, to complete the Vital Records project for 2017: - Rozdol, Jewish births 1828-1868 - Rudki, Jewish deaths 1850-1866 - Stanislawow, Jewish births 1926-1932 - Tarnopol, Jewish marriages 1934-1939 For further information, please contact <info@geshergalicia.org>. Please do NOT reply to this email. Tony Kahane Chair & Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia www.geshergalicia.org --- PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org ---
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Looking for family of Gido BARBASCH
#general
Milton Koch
I am looking for relatives of Gido, who lived in Argentina. If family is
located, I wonder if they know whether towns in Galicia-Czernowitz and Podvolchisk, are part of his family members. Thank you. Milton Koch Bethesda, MD, USA BARBASCH-Podvolchisk
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for family of Gido BARBASCH
#general
Milton Koch
I am looking for relatives of Gido, who lived in Argentina. If family is
located, I wonder if they know whether towns in Galicia-Czernowitz and Podvolchisk, are part of his family members. Thank you. Milton Koch Bethesda, MD, USA BARBASCH-Podvolchisk
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(Catalonia, Spain) Secret Route for Escaping Jews During WWll
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Pyrenees Mountains (mountain chain separating France and Spain) in
Spain's Catalonia Lleida Province was a major escape route for European Jews fleeing the Nazi's during World War ll. The major influx occurred August-November 1942, with a second wave in the Spring of 1944. In the beginning of WWll Franco permitted transit visas however, he later bowed to Nazi pressure and ordered a halt to all visas and deported those crossing illegally. Some who were expelled ended up in Auschwitz. However, in 1942 with a change of the Minister of the Exterior the expulsion policy was relaxed. Once there however, men of fighting age were placed in a concentration camp, children placed in foster care, families imprisoned. The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (http://archives.jdc.org/) helped with transit papers, money, reunification and more. The Forward has an article in its current issue about the tens of thousands of Jews who fled Nazi Europe to "neutral" Spain in order to immigrate first to the United States and Canada and later to Israel ( then known as Palestine). To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/y8u2mcpc Original url: http://forward.com/life/travel/385313/catalonias-secret-escape-route-for-european-jews-during-the-holocaust/ The Perseguits i Salvats is a 2013 initiative that retraces the freedom route. There is a website in English, Catalonian and Spanish at: http://www.perseguits.cat/en/ Under the section "chased and free" a history of what was happening in Europe and the fleeing Jews to Catalonia is retold. A section does address data collection and records, which includes transcriptions of interviews, photographs, a video and While with patience the website opened all the documents but it took a while as I was trying to have it translated on Google Chrome and the documents area is not automatically translatable. Once can copy and paste into Google translate https://translate.google.com/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Catalonia, Spain) Secret Route for Escaping Jews During WWll
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Pyrenees Mountains (mountain chain separating France and Spain) in
Spain's Catalonia Lleida Province was a major escape route for European Jews fleeing the Nazi's during World War ll. The major influx occurred August-November 1942, with a second wave in the Spring of 1944. In the beginning of WWll Franco permitted transit visas however, he later bowed to Nazi pressure and ordered a halt to all visas and deported those crossing illegally. Some who were expelled ended up in Auschwitz. However, in 1942 with a change of the Minister of the Exterior the expulsion policy was relaxed. Once there however, men of fighting age were placed in a concentration camp, children placed in foster care, families imprisoned. The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (http://archives.jdc.org/) helped with transit papers, money, reunification and more. The Forward has an article in its current issue about the tens of thousands of Jews who fled Nazi Europe to "neutral" Spain in order to immigrate first to the United States and Canada and later to Israel ( then known as Palestine). To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/y8u2mcpc Original url: http://forward.com/life/travel/385313/catalonias-secret-escape-route-for-european-jews-during-the-holocaust/ The Perseguits i Salvats is a 2013 initiative that retraces the freedom route. There is a website in English, Catalonian and Spanish at: http://www.perseguits.cat/en/ Under the section "chased and free" a history of what was happening in Europe and the fleeing Jews to Catalonia is retold. A section does address data collection and records, which includes transcriptions of interviews, photographs, a video and While with patience the website opened all the documents but it took a while as I was trying to have it translated on Google Chrome and the documents area is not automatically translatable. Once can copy and paste into Google translate https://translate.google.com/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Family names
#general
Judith Singer
The moderator's suggestion, the JewishGen's Given Names Databases
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https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ is the most easily accessible reference for given names used by our ancestors and is pretty comprehensive. There are also entire books on the topic, such as the one by Alexander Beider on Ashkenazic given names. Ovshiy, Yishea, and Joshua all refer to the same Hebrew name, Yehoshua. However, Ovshiy was not your great-grandfather's "Russian" name but a Yiddish nickname used in the Russian Empire. Speaking very generally and briefly, in 19th century Russia most of our ancestors had a Hebrew name used for religious and official purposes, a Yiddish name used for everyday purposes, and a collection of nicknames based on the Yiddish name. Truly Russian names were generally not used by our ancestors until the 20th century and most of them would appear familiar even if the spelling is a little different >from the English version, e.g. Catherine, Nicholas, Alexander, etc. It is a good idea to read an explanation of given name traditions in JewishGen, such as the one at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/nature.htm, so you will understand our ancestors' use of Hebrew names, Yiddish names, and nicknames. Because there were so many different nicknames for each name and so many variations in spelling for each Hebrew and Yiddish name, especially after they were translated >from a different alphabet (Russian Cyrillic or Hebrew), it was not possible for the JewishGen Given Name Database to include them all the possible spellings, so do not get discouraged if your first search is unsuccessful. Instead, try some alternative spellings. For example, Ovshiy is not included in the Given Name Database for Lithuania but Hoshiye, Hovsey, Hovshe, Oshaye, Osheye, Osiye, Osyas, Ovshe, Yeshiye and over a dozen others are included. The JewishGen Given Name Database is organized by modern-day country, so it will help if you know where in the Russian Empire your maternal great-grandfather was from. Good luck - Judith Singer
From: "Molly Arost Staub" <staubmolly@yahoo.com>
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family names
#general
Judith Singer
The moderator's suggestion, the JewishGen's Given Names Databases
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ is the most easily accessible reference for given names used by our ancestors and is pretty comprehensive. There are also entire books on the topic, such as the one by Alexander Beider on Ashkenazic given names. Ovshiy, Yishea, and Joshua all refer to the same Hebrew name, Yehoshua. However, Ovshiy was not your great-grandfather's "Russian" name but a Yiddish nickname used in the Russian Empire. Speaking very generally and briefly, in 19th century Russia most of our ancestors had a Hebrew name used for religious and official purposes, a Yiddish name used for everyday purposes, and a collection of nicknames based on the Yiddish name. Truly Russian names were generally not used by our ancestors until the 20th century and most of them would appear familiar even if the spelling is a little different >from the English version, e.g. Catherine, Nicholas, Alexander, etc. It is a good idea to read an explanation of given name traditions in JewishGen, such as the one at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/nature.htm, so you will understand our ancestors' use of Hebrew names, Yiddish names, and nicknames. Because there were so many different nicknames for each name and so many variations in spelling for each Hebrew and Yiddish name, especially after they were translated >from a different alphabet (Russian Cyrillic or Hebrew), it was not possible for the JewishGen Given Name Database to include them all the possible spellings, so do not get discouraged if your first search is unsuccessful. Instead, try some alternative spellings. For example, Ovshiy is not included in the Given Name Database for Lithuania but Hoshiye, Hovsey, Hovshe, Oshaye, Osheye, Osiye, Osyas, Ovshe, Yeshiye and over a dozen others are included. The JewishGen Given Name Database is organized by modern-day country, so it will help if you know where in the Russian Empire your maternal great-grandfather was from. Good luck - Judith Singer
From: "Molly Arost Staub" <staubmolly@yahoo.com>
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Jewish Records from Volhynia
#general
Gailkut
My paternal line is >from in and around the city of Torczyn and am researching
the family. Need help in obtaining Jewish records >from Volhynia. Would you be able to put me in touch with someone who can provide assistance. Thank you. Gail Kutin MODERATOR NOTE: To start: if you check within the JewishGen Communities database (https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp ) for Torczyn, you will see (if you scroll to the bottom right of the Torczyn page) that JewishGen includes the town within Ukraine SIG. It also notes that some records may be found within Jewish Records Indexing - Poland's database.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Records from Volhynia
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Gailkut
My paternal line is >from in and around the city of Torczyn and am researching
the family. Need help in obtaining Jewish records >from Volhynia. Would you be able to put me in touch with someone who can provide assistance. Thank you. Gail Kutin MODERATOR NOTE: To start: if you check within the JewishGen Communities database (https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp ) for Torczyn, you will see (if you scroll to the bottom right of the Torczyn page) that JewishGen includes the town within Ukraine SIG. It also notes that some records may be found within Jewish Records Indexing - Poland's database.
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Family names
#general
Molly Staub
Family lore always said my maternal great-grandfather's name was Yishea. I
was contacted by another researcher who said that was not my ggf's name; it was Ovshiy. I sent him photos of my grandfather's tombstone, which reads son of Yishea, and his marriage certificate in London, which says Joshua. This researcher insisted I was wrong. I then asked a noted expert at a conference if Yishea could be the Yiddish name and Ovshiy the Russian name. He said I was correct. Does anyone know of a listing of Yiddish names and their Russian versions for official documents? I know that Srul stands of Yisrael/Israel, for instance. Such a list might help resolve the duplications we find. Thanks Molly Arost Staub Boca Raton, FL E-mail staubmolly@yahoo.com MODERATOR NOTE: Check out JewishGen's Given Names Databases https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/
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Molly Staub
Family lore always said my maternal great-grandfather's name was Yishea. I
was contacted by another researcher who said that was not my ggf's name; it was Ovshiy. I sent him photos of my grandfather's tombstone, which reads son of Yishea, and his marriage certificate in London, which says Joshua. This researcher insisted I was wrong. I then asked a noted expert at a conference if Yishea could be the Yiddish name and Ovshiy the Russian name. He said I was correct. Does anyone know of a listing of Yiddish names and their Russian versions for official documents? I know that Srul stands of Yisrael/Israel, for instance. Such a list might help resolve the duplications we find. Thanks Molly Arost Staub Boca Raton, FL E-mail staubmolly@yahoo.com MODERATOR NOTE: Check out JewishGen's Given Names Databases https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/
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