Date   

JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island will be on
Sunday, February 25.

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview,NY www.miyjcc.org

Topic: New York's Genealogy "Textbook": The New York Family History Research
Guide and Gazetteer.

Speaker: Susan R. Miller

Since its introduction in 2014 the New York Family History Research Guide and
Gazetteer has been the de facto textbook for genealogists with New York families.
This presentation will explain the best ways to access the vast information in
the 856 page tome. It was the winner of the 2016 NGS Award for Excellence:
Genealogical Methods and Sources.

Sue Miller is the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society Director of
Programs and editor of the NYG&B's magazine, the New York Researcher. She was a
managing editor of the New York Family History Research Guide and Gazetteer and
is the coo-organizer for the New York State Family History Conference.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Our "Mavens" are available at 1:30 PM to take your genealogy questions.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island will be on
Sunday, February 25.

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview,NY www.miyjcc.org

Topic: New York's Genealogy "Textbook": The New York Family History Research
Guide and Gazetteer.

Speaker: Susan R. Miller

Since its introduction in 2014 the New York Family History Research Guide and
Gazetteer has been the de facto textbook for genealogists with New York families.
This presentation will explain the best ways to access the vast information in
the 856 page tome. It was the winner of the 2016 NGS Award for Excellence:
Genealogical Methods and Sources.

Sue Miller is the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society Director of
Programs and editor of the NYG&B's magazine, the New York Researcher. She was a
managing editor of the New York Family History Research Guide and Gazetteer and
is the coo-organizer for the New York State Family History Conference.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Our "Mavens" are available at 1:30 PM to take your genealogy questions.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


Re: Hebrew name #hungary

stephen@...
 

Tom Klein's previous comment is mostly correct, except that in selecting
a Hebrew name it was generally the custom to name the child after a
deceased grandparent. If grandparents were still living then other names
were selected. The same applied where there were large number of
children in the family. Sometimes there was a logic to the name
selection, such as other deceased relatives, favorite relatives, rich
relatives, etc. It's good to be aware of this custom, as it can help
establish a family relationship or to work out a grandparent's name.

Stephen Schmideg

Melbourne, Australia


Re: Hungarian Nobility #hungary

fjdyer@...
 

My sincerest thanks to all who responded with such valuable information. Lots of
great leads to follow up!

Best,
Frank Dyer


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hebrew name #hungary

stephen@...
 

Tom Klein's previous comment is mostly correct, except that in selecting
a Hebrew name it was generally the custom to name the child after a
deceased grandparent. If grandparents were still living then other names
were selected. The same applied where there were large number of
children in the family. Sometimes there was a logic to the name
selection, such as other deceased relatives, favorite relatives, rich
relatives, etc. It's good to be aware of this custom, as it can help
establish a family relationship or to work out a grandparent's name.

Stephen Schmideg

Melbourne, Australia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian Nobility #hungary

fjdyer@...
 

My sincerest thanks to all who responded with such valuable information. Lots of
great leads to follow up!

Best,
Frank Dyer


Re: Family from Bessarabia #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi Sarah,

You should take a look to the JG family finder at https://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Regards,
Ariel Parkansky
Paris, France
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Subject: Family >from Bessarabia
From: Sarah Lasry <srhlsr@aim.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 12:35:17 -0500

This is my SECOND message to this Bessarabia Digest, regarding what I previously wrote about in
my first message. (approximately a week ago)...............

............Do any of you have any family relationship to SHOUR/SHORE, GOLDFINE/GOLDFINE,
MAYEROVITCH? These families came >from Bessarabia! Brichany......and Sokiryany........

Sarah Lasry
ISRAEL


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Re: Family from Bessarabia #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi Sarah,

You should take a look to the JG family finder at https://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Regards,
Ariel Parkansky
Paris, France
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Subject: Family >from Bessarabia
From: Sarah Lasry <srhlsr@aim.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 12:35:17 -0500

This is my SECOND message to this Bessarabia Digest, regarding what I previously wrote about in
my first message. (approximately a week ago)...............

............Do any of you have any family relationship to SHOUR/SHORE, GOLDFINE/GOLDFINE,
MAYEROVITCH? These families came >from Bessarabia! Brichany......and Sokiryany........

Sarah Lasry
ISRAEL


Re: Strategy for locating ancestor's siblings? #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Debbie Terman asked an excellent question about finding siblings.

And yes, there are a few items you can check, starting with siblings of
immigrants (assuming you have found the town of origin...almost impossible
if you can only narrow to a country).

First, the census...they tended to live nearby...look thru the neighboring pages
next, try to find similar surnames coming >from the same town.
...you can do this fairly easily on Ellis Island via stevemorse.org
...and the WWII draft via ancestry..also allows you to query the town.
...you can also search the common cemeteries for landsmanshaften

FamilySearch has transcribed the parents on many publically available birth and
marriage records; this might help speed up the research

Ancestry, FamilySearch, MyHeritage and JewishGen's FTJP allow you to
search family trees limited to town of origin.

On any country database, if you have a surname that has various spellings, use
the soundex along with the town of origin. For JRI-Poland, get the latitude/
longitude of the town >from the JewishGen community page and look for same
surnames with 10-15 miles of your town of origin.

Gesher Galicia allows you to search using the town name and a distance >from it.
That narrows common surname queries.

When you check JGFF, copy down the district/uzed >from the JewishGen community
page and have the list of neighboring towns handy, so you don't limit yourself
to the one town they came from. You can also hover over the JewishGen icon and
see the district each town was part of.

Make up a simple descendant tree with the immigrant ... you'll know the fathers
name >from the tombstone...to send along to others researching the same town
saves a lot of explanation in your note to fellow 'genners.

Hope this helps
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: https://www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) ...KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko ...LINDNER, EICHEL from
Rohatyn, Burstyn ...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: https://KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Strategy for locating ancestor's siblings? #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Debbie Terman asked an excellent question about finding siblings.

And yes, there are a few items you can check, starting with siblings of
immigrants (assuming you have found the town of origin...almost impossible
if you can only narrow to a country).

First, the census...they tended to live nearby...look thru the neighboring pages
next, try to find similar surnames coming >from the same town.
...you can do this fairly easily on Ellis Island via stevemorse.org
...and the WWII draft via ancestry..also allows you to query the town.
...you can also search the common cemeteries for landsmanshaften

FamilySearch has transcribed the parents on many publically available birth and
marriage records; this might help speed up the research

Ancestry, FamilySearch, MyHeritage and JewishGen's FTJP allow you to
search family trees limited to town of origin.

On any country database, if you have a surname that has various spellings, use
the soundex along with the town of origin. For JRI-Poland, get the latitude/
longitude of the town >from the JewishGen community page and look for same
surnames with 10-15 miles of your town of origin.

Gesher Galicia allows you to search using the town name and a distance >from it.
That narrows common surname queries.

When you check JGFF, copy down the district/uzed >from the JewishGen community
page and have the list of neighboring towns handy, so you don't limit yourself
to the one town they came from. You can also hover over the JewishGen icon and
see the district each town was part of.

Make up a simple descendant tree with the immigrant ... you'll know the fathers
name >from the tombstone...to send along to others researching the same town
saves a lot of explanation in your note to fellow 'genners.

Hope this helps
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: https://www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) ...KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko ...LINDNER, EICHEL from
Rohatyn, Burstyn ...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: https://KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


Re: Where is "Reslawa", Russia? #general

Sheldon Dan
 

Mary Ellen,
If you haven't already done so, please use the Town Finder or Jewish Gazetteer
tools. I had a similar situation regarding my grandmother's birthplace and found
some candidates for the town. After some trial and error, I found the right
location, so this may confirm the Google result or be more accurate than a
general search engine.

Sheldon Dan
sheldan1955@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Where is "Reslawa", Russia? #general

Sheldon Dan
 

Mary Ellen,
If you haven't already done so, please use the Town Finder or Jewish Gazetteer
tools. I had a similar situation regarding my grandmother's birthplace and found
some candidates for the town. After some trial and error, I found the right
location, so this may confirm the Google result or be more accurate than a
general search engine.

Sheldon Dan
sheldan1955@bellsouth.net


Jewish Genealogy Databases in Switzerland #general

Paul King
 

To whom or to where does one turn for Swiss vital data pertaining to Jewish
citizens and/ or residents?

Paul King
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy Databases in Switzerland #general

Paul King
 

To whom or to where does one turn for Swiss vital data pertaining to Jewish
citizens and/ or residents?

Paul King
Jerusalem


Re: Getting US Phone Numbers #general

Stacye <FernsAndNettles@...>
 

My only suggestion is this ...

You could handwrite letters to the areas local synagogues or Jewish
Community Center and inquire as to whether they could pass on your
letter if they know the person / family you are seeking ... They
would do so in my very large Jewish Community here in Norfolk area ..
can't speak for others ....

Stacye Mehard
Norfolk, Virginia

From: Meron Lavie <lavie@netvision.net.il>

I have finally managed to track down some long lost distant relatives.
However, getting their phone numbers seems next to impossible. Web searches
turn up the usual suspects (spokeo, whitepages, peoplefinder, etc.), but the
numbers are always disconnected or so old that the present owner of the
number has never heard of the people I'm asking for.

Any suggestions?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Getting US Phone Numbers #general

Stacye <FernsAndNettles@...>
 

My only suggestion is this ...

You could handwrite letters to the areas local synagogues or Jewish
Community Center and inquire as to whether they could pass on your
letter if they know the person / family you are seeking ... They
would do so in my very large Jewish Community here in Norfolk area ..
can't speak for others ....

Stacye Mehard
Norfolk, Virginia

From: Meron Lavie <lavie@netvision.net.il>

I have finally managed to track down some long lost distant relatives.
However, getting their phone numbers seems next to impossible. Web searches
turn up the usual suspects (spokeo, whitepages, peoplefinder, etc.), but the
numbers are always disconnected or so old that the present owner of the
number has never heard of the people I'm asking for.

Any suggestions?


(Europe) Historic European Synagogues Cataloging and Plans to Save History #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Before the outbreak of World War II there were an estimated 17,000 synagogues
across Europe. The vast majority have been lost. There are just over 3,300
surviving, but only 718 still function as Jewish places of worship. Jewish
presence in Europe goes back over 2,500 years. Historian Simon Schama launched
a project to map the 3,300 historic synagogues across 48 European countries and
restore the most significant ones. They have focused on 160 synagogues and
narrowed that to 19 where they feel they have a good chance of restoration. The
Slonim Synagogue, Belarus, depicted in the new article cited below, is one on
the list to be restored. The inventory was undertaken by the Center for Jewish
Art at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, assisted by heritage experts in
individual countries.

The project was commissioned by the Foundation for Jewish Heritage, which has
identified synagogues >from pre-World War II ranging >from Cork Ireland to
Vladivostok, Russia. The cataloguing includes construction dates and materials,
information about the Jewish community it served, its current condition and a
"significance rating". To read about the Historic Synagogues of Europe see:
http://historicsynagogueseurope.org/synagogue-home .

The excellent website includes a map with all the synagogues in Europe, a
search field by town, architect, construction date, community and more.

To read more about this see: m
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/03/save-synagogues-europe-jewish-heritage-simon-schama
[MOD. NOTE: Shortened URL - https://goo.gl/GeH7q7 ]

Thank you to Jeanette Rosenberg, JGS Great Britain for sharing The Guardian
article with us. Also thank you to Rose Feldman, IGRA, for sharing the
article >from the Foundation for Jewish Heritage synagogues and Center for
Jewish Art accessing the cataloging where one can search the synagogues.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Europe) Historic European Synagogues Cataloging and Plans to Save History #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Before the outbreak of World War II there were an estimated 17,000 synagogues
across Europe. The vast majority have been lost. There are just over 3,300
surviving, but only 718 still function as Jewish places of worship. Jewish
presence in Europe goes back over 2,500 years. Historian Simon Schama launched
a project to map the 3,300 historic synagogues across 48 European countries and
restore the most significant ones. They have focused on 160 synagogues and
narrowed that to 19 where they feel they have a good chance of restoration. The
Slonim Synagogue, Belarus, depicted in the new article cited below, is one on
the list to be restored. The inventory was undertaken by the Center for Jewish
Art at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, assisted by heritage experts in
individual countries.

The project was commissioned by the Foundation for Jewish Heritage, which has
identified synagogues >from pre-World War II ranging >from Cork Ireland to
Vladivostok, Russia. The cataloguing includes construction dates and materials,
information about the Jewish community it served, its current condition and a
"significance rating". To read about the Historic Synagogues of Europe see:
http://historicsynagogueseurope.org/synagogue-home .

The excellent website includes a map with all the synagogues in Europe, a
search field by town, architect, construction date, community and more.

To read more about this see: m
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/03/save-synagogues-europe-jewish-heritage-simon-schama
[MOD. NOTE: Shortened URL - https://goo.gl/GeH7q7 ]

Thank you to Jeanette Rosenberg, JGS Great Britain for sharing The Guardian
article with us. Also thank you to Rose Feldman, IGRA, for sharing the
article >from the Foundation for Jewish Heritage synagogues and Center for
Jewish Art accessing the cataloging where one can search the synagogues.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Given Name Kisiel in Galicia #general

David Goldman
 

Regarding the discussion on the name Kisiel, I totally agree with Alexander
Sharon that the name represents the name Yekutiel, because in Hungary,
Poland and Ukraine the long U became an I. Thus we find that Yehuda became
Yihida/Yida. The name Kasriel is Katriel, is an entirely different name.

David Goldman
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Given Name Kisiel in Galicia #general

David Goldman
 

Regarding the discussion on the name Kisiel, I totally agree with Alexander
Sharon that the name represents the name Yekutiel, because in Hungary,
Poland and Ukraine the long U became an I. Thus we find that Yehuda became
Yihida/Yida. The name Kasriel is Katriel, is an entirely different name.

David Goldman
NYC

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