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The JewishGen.org Discussion Group unites thousands of Jewish genealogical researchers worldwide as they research their family history, search for relatives, and share information, ideas, methods, tips, techniques, and resources. The JewishGen.org Discussion Group makes it easy, quick, and fun, to connect with others around the world.
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How is the New JewishGen.org Discussion Group better than the old one?
Our old Discussion List platform was woefully antiquated. Among its many challenges: it was not secure, it required messages to be sent in Plain Text, did not support accented characters or languages other than English, could not display links or images, and had archives that were not mobile-friendly.
This new platform that JewishGen is using is a scalable, and sustainable solution, and allows us to engage with JewishGen members throughout the world. It offers a simple and intuitive interface for both members and moderators, more powerful tools, and more secure archives (which are easily accessible on mobile devices, and which also block out personal email addresses to the public).
I am a JewishGen member, why do I have to create a separate account for the Discussion Group?
As we continue to modernize our platform, we are trying to ensure that everything meets contemporary security standards. In the future, we plan hope to have one single sign-in page.
I like how the current lists work. Will I still be able to send/receive emails of posts (and/or digests)?
Yes. In terms of functionality, the group will operate the same for people who like to participate with email. People can still send a message to an email address (in this case, main@groups.JewishGen.org), and receive a daily digest of postings, or individual emails. In addition, Members can also receive a daily summary of topics, and then choose which topics they would like to read about it. However, in addition to email, there is the additional functionality of being able to read/post messages utilizing our online forum (https://groups.jewishgen.org).
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No.
Can I post images, accented characters, different colors/font sizes, non-latin characters?
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Can I categorize a message? For example, if my message is related to Polish, or Ukraine research, can I indicate as such?
Yes! Our new platform allows members to use “Hashtags.” Messages can then be sorted, and searched, based upon how they are categorized. Another advantage is that members can “mute” any conversations they are not interested in, by simply indicating they are not interested in a particular “hashtag.”
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Correct!
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Will the current guidelines change?
Yes. While posts will be moderated to ensure civility, and that there is nothing posted that is inappropriate (or completely unrelated to genealogy), we will be trying to create an online community of people who regulate themselves, much as they do (very successfully) on Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook.
What are the new guidelines?
There are just a few simple rules & guidelines to follow, which you can read here:https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/guidelines
Thank you in advance for contributing to this amazing online community!
If you have any questions, or suggestions, please email support@JewishGen.org.
Sincerely,
The JewishGen.org Team
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Re: Sachsenhausen Database: Volunteers -THANK YOU !
#germany
Lande
I am impressed (but not surprised, Gersig volunteers are great ) by the
flood of volunteers for the Sachsenhausen project. I now have enough and will confirm to each person. After resolving a minor format problem, I will scan and send material next week. Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@starpower.net
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German SIG #Germany re: Sachsenhausen Database: Volunteers -THANK YOU !
#germany
Lande
I am impressed (but not surprised, Gersig volunteers are great ) by the
flood of volunteers for the Sachsenhausen project. I now have enough and will confirm to each person. After resolving a minor format problem, I will scan and send material next week. Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@starpower.net
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Seeking GUTMANN in the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index, by Trudy Schenk
#germany
Eva Lawrence
I am hoping to find two members of the GUTMANN family >from Goeppingen
in the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index, by Trudy Schenk. According to the World Catalogue the book is held in about 30 academic libraries in USA, including New York, and in Germany, but none of them in England. I wonder if anyone would be willing to help me find a copy of the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. If so, please could they contact me privately for all the details. Eva Lawrence, St Albans, UK. eva.lawrence@idnet.com
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German SIG #Germany Seeking GUTMANN in the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index, by Trudy Schenk
#germany
Eva Lawrence
I am hoping to find two members of the GUTMANN family >from Goeppingen
in the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index, by Trudy Schenk. According to the World Catalogue the book is held in about 30 academic libraries in USA, including New York, and in Germany, but none of them in England. I wonder if anyone would be willing to help me find a copy of the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. If so, please could they contact me privately for all the details. Eva Lawrence, St Albans, UK. eva.lawrence@idnet.com
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Lehman brothers role in Rescue- Karen Franklin, interview and talk 4 July 2018
#germany
Saul Issroff
Karen Franklin of the Leo Baeck Institute is interviewed for the
Jewish Views radio programme (UK) on the fascinating tale of 'The Untold Story of the Lehman Family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945'. https://tinyurl.com/y9cnux54 Karen's interview starts at 35 minutes in the programme. Synopsis radio interview: ... Karen Franklin tells us the fascinating details of 'The Untold Story of the Lehman Family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945', as part of an event >from Spiro Ark, co-hosted by the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain and Central Synagogue and will be held July 4, 7.30 pm at The Central Synagogue, London W1. event details: The Untold Story of the Lehman family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945 A lecture by Karen Franklin Time: 7.30 pm, Wednesday 4th July 2018 Venue: Central Synagogue, 36-40 Hallam Street, Marylebone, London W1W 6NW. Ticket price: £10 www.spiroark.org or by phone 0207 794 4655 Saul Issroff, London, UK Saul65@gmail.com
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German SIG #Germany Lehman brothers role in Rescue- Karen Franklin, interview and talk 4 July 2018
#germany
Saul Issroff
Karen Franklin of the Leo Baeck Institute is interviewed for the
Jewish Views radio programme (UK) on the fascinating tale of 'The Untold Story of the Lehman Family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945'. https://tinyurl.com/y9cnux54 Karen's interview starts at 35 minutes in the programme. Synopsis radio interview: ... Karen Franklin tells us the fascinating details of 'The Untold Story of the Lehman Family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945', as part of an event >from Spiro Ark, co-hosted by the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain and Central Synagogue and will be held July 4, 7.30 pm at The Central Synagogue, London W1. event details: The Untold Story of the Lehman family and its Aid to Refugees: 1933-1945 A lecture by Karen Franklin Time: 7.30 pm, Wednesday 4th July 2018 Venue: Central Synagogue, 36-40 Hallam Street, Marylebone, London W1W 6NW. Ticket price: £10 www.spiroark.org or by phone 0207 794 4655 Saul Issroff, London, UK Saul65@gmail.com
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Reminder: July's events
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
The South East Essex Regional Group will be holding another, always welcome
WORKSHOP at the Balmoral Community Centre Westcliff Essex. RSVPs to convener Anne Marcus at : avoceta@hotmail.com Refreshments for all 2) Friday 6th 10.30 - 3pm The monthly Friday Library Session. Contact Chief Librarian Lydia Collins. RSVPs to library@jgsgb.org.uk 3) Sunday 15th - >from 2 - 5pm at the Society of genealogists - JGS' Daniel Morgan-Thomas will present a talk entitled 'Between the Front Lines - Jews in Britain and the First World War' at The Society of Genealogists RSVPs to raymusik@aol.com 3a) There will also be the regular monthly Sunday library session, running alongside, >from 2 - 5. RSVPs to Lydia Collins : library@jgsgb.org.uk Refreshments for all members free Guests £3 - refunded if joining Society on the day 4) 19th July 7.30 - 9pm Another Education Evening "Using UK Newspapers for Jewish Genealogy. Hosted by Jeanette Rosenberg Contact : jeanette.r.rosenberg@googlemail.com (There is always easy and safe parking on a Sunday, immediately outside the SOG. Barbican Station - when operational - is the nearest tube. Thank You. Raymond Montanjees The Programme Committee
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Reminder: July's events
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
The South East Essex Regional Group will be holding another, always welcome
WORKSHOP at the Balmoral Community Centre Westcliff Essex. RSVPs to convener Anne Marcus at : avoceta@hotmail.com Refreshments for all 2) Friday 6th 10.30 - 3pm The monthly Friday Library Session. Contact Chief Librarian Lydia Collins. RSVPs to library@jgsgb.org.uk 3) Sunday 15th - >from 2 - 5pm at the Society of genealogists - JGS' Daniel Morgan-Thomas will present a talk entitled 'Between the Front Lines - Jews in Britain and the First World War' at The Society of Genealogists RSVPs to raymusik@aol.com 3a) There will also be the regular monthly Sunday library session, running alongside, >from 2 - 5. RSVPs to Lydia Collins : library@jgsgb.org.uk Refreshments for all members free Guests £3 - refunded if joining Society on the day 4) 19th July 7.30 - 9pm Another Education Evening "Using UK Newspapers for Jewish Genealogy. Hosted by Jeanette Rosenberg Contact : jeanette.r.rosenberg@googlemail.com (There is always easy and safe parking on a Sunday, immediately outside the SOG. Barbican Station - when operational - is the nearest tube. Thank You. Raymond Montanjees The Programme Committee
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(US-CA) California Passes and Governor Signs Sweeping Privacy Legislation
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
California's privacy legislation was signed into law on June 28 and becomes
effective January 1, 2010. It is the most sweeping privacy legislation in the country and results >from Europe's General Data Protection Regulation and the Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal. It will affect how companies such as Google, Facebook, Internet providers, smart phone providers-all used by genealogists-- use consumers private information. To read the law, the bill AB 375, Chapter 55 of the laws of 2018 may be found at: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB375 which will provide definitions of personal information and other important information as to how the individual is affected. To read more this new law see: https://tinyurl.com/ybk9ez56 Original url: https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-rushes-to-tighten-data-privacy-restrictions-1530190800 . If you have a problem accessing the Wall Street Journal article type the name of the article, "California rushes to tighten data privacy restrictions", into Google and you will be able to access >from there. To read the previous IAJGS Records Access Alert postings about this bill, other California privacy legislation, European Union's GDPR, privacy issues, US privacy legislation and more go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives. To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US-CA) California Passes and Governor Signs Sweeping Privacy Legislation
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
California's privacy legislation was signed into law on June 28 and becomes
effective January 1, 2010. It is the most sweeping privacy legislation in the country and results >from Europe's General Data Protection Regulation and the Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal. It will affect how companies such as Google, Facebook, Internet providers, smart phone providers-all used by genealogists-- use consumers private information. To read the law, the bill AB 375, Chapter 55 of the laws of 2018 may be found at: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB375 which will provide definitions of personal information and other important information as to how the individual is affected. To read more this new law see: https://tinyurl.com/ybk9ez56 Original url: https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-rushes-to-tighten-data-privacy-restrictions-1530190800 . If you have a problem accessing the Wall Street Journal article type the name of the article, "California rushes to tighten data privacy restrictions", into Google and you will be able to access >from there. To read the previous IAJGS Records Access Alert postings about this bill, other California privacy legislation, European Union's GDPR, privacy issues, US privacy legislation and more go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives. To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen is proud to announce its 2018 pre-Conference update to the JOWBR
(JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial Registry) database. The JOWBR database can be accessed at www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/ If you're a new JOWBR user, we recommend that you visit our screencast page at www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/ and take a look at the first two explanatory screencasts. This update, adds approximately 100,000 new records and 34,000 new photos. The database is adding and/or updating 510 cemeteries. This update brings JOWBR's holdings to 3.33 million records and 594,000 photos from approximately 7,750 cemeteries / cemetery sections representing 128 countries! Once again, donors for this update include a mix of individuals, Jewish genealogical societies, historical societies and museums. We appreciate all our donor's submissions and the transliteration work done by a faithful group of JewishGen volunteers. Significant new and updated sets to the database include collections from Belarus, Czech Republic, Moldova, France, Germany, England, Poland, Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, United States and Zimbabwe. We've also added a large number of Montreal, Canada headstone photos. For a complete listing please see www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm for of all cemeteries in JOWBR. I want to particularly thank Eric Feinstein who has been helping me to find and gain permission to add many non-US records >from Germany, France and under-represented countries. Eric's group of volunteers includes Sandra Bennett, Lineke Bos, Malka Chosnek, George Goldschmied, Ann Meddin Hellman, Maurice Kessler, Harriet Mayer, Hans Nord, Cori Plucer, Deborah Ross, Marylin Shalks, and Suzanne Tarica. In addition, a big thank you to our volunteer transliterators, led by Gilberto Jugend, without whom we would not be able to add the information >from some very difficult to read photos. We appreciate all the work our donors have done and encourage you to make additional submissions. Whether you work on a cemetery / cemetery section individually or consider a group project for your local Society, temple or other group, it's your submissions that help grow the JOWBR database and make it possible for researchers and family members to find answers they otherwise might not. Please also consider other organizations you may be affiliated with that may already have done cemetery indexing that would consider having their records included in the JOWBR database. Nolan Altman NAltman@JewishGen.org JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition June, 2018
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JewishGen is proud to announce its 2018 pre-Conference update for the
Memorial Plaques Database (MPD). The MPD database can be accessed at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/ The MPD database includes the data >from plaques and Yizkor lists >from synagogue and other organizations. Many of these sources include patronymic information. This update added approximately 8,400 records and 6,900 photos. This update brings the Memorial Plaques holdings to 177,500 records and 124,000 photos from 263 synagogues / institutions representing 11 countries.We believe that the MPD is a good example of how users of JewishGen's databases can "give back". If you are a member of a synagogue or other organization with memorial plaques or Yizkor lists, please consider helping us to grow this database. You can find more information on submitting data at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm If you have additional questions, please contact me directly. For a complete listing of the institutions currently in the database, please see http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/tree/MemList.htm Nolan Altman NAltman@JewishGen.org JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition June, 2018
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lisaglen18@...
Does anyone know of any ghostwriters who were hired who specialized in helping write memoirs of Holocaust survivors? My father lived in LA until 2001 and had a ghostwriter write a manuscript for him in the 1990's. Unfortunately, it was thrown out and never published. I am searching the ghostwriter that he would have hired to help him to see if perhaps he retained a copy of the manuscript.
Thank you, Lisa Glenner Researching Family Names: MORGENSZTERN, MORGENSTERN, BLASS, BUNIM, KUGEL, SKLAR, GOLDBERG
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JewishGen is proud to announce its 2018 pre-Conference update to the JOWBR
(JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial Registry) database. The JOWBR database can be accessed at www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/ If you're a new JOWBR user, we recommend that you visit our screencast page at www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/ and take a look at the first two explanatory screencasts. This update, adds approximately 100,000 new records and 34,000 new photos. The database is adding and/or updating 510 cemeteries. This update brings JOWBR's holdings to 3.33 million records and 594,000 photos from approximately 7,750 cemeteries / cemetery sections representing 128 countries! Once again, donors for this update include a mix of individuals, Jewish genealogical societies, historical societies and museums. We appreciate all our donor's submissions and the transliteration work done by a faithful group of JewishGen volunteers. Significant new and updated sets to the database include collections from Belarus, Czech Republic, Moldova, France, Germany, England, Poland, Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, United States and Zimbabwe. We've also added a large number of Montreal, Canada headstone photos. For a complete listing please see www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm for of all cemeteries in JOWBR. I want to particularly thank Eric Feinstein who has been helping me to find and gain permission to add many non-US records >from Germany, France and under-represented countries. Eric's group of volunteers includes Sandra Bennett, Lineke Bos, Malka Chosnek, George Goldschmied, Ann Meddin Hellman, Maurice Kessler, Harriet Mayer, Hans Nord, Cori Plucer, Deborah Ross, Marylin Shalks, and Suzanne Tarica. In addition, a big thank you to our volunteer transliterators, led by Gilberto Jugend, without whom we would not be able to add the information >from some very difficult to read photos. We appreciate all the work our donors have done and encourage you to make additional submissions. Whether you work on a cemetery / cemetery section individually or consider a group project for your local Society, temple or other group, it's your submissions that help grow the JOWBR database and make it possible for researchers and family members to find answers they otherwise might not. Please also consider other organizations you may be affiliated with that may already have done cemetery indexing that would consider having their records included in the JOWBR database. Nolan Altman NAltman@JewishGen.org JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition June, 2018
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JewishGen is proud to announce its 2018 pre-Conference update for the
Memorial Plaques Database (MPD). The MPD database can be accessed at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/ The MPD database includes the data >from plaques and Yizkor lists >from synagogue and other organizations. Many of these sources include patronymic information. This update added approximately 8,400 records and 6,900 photos. This update brings the Memorial Plaques holdings to 177,500 records and 124,000 photos from 263 synagogues / institutions representing 11 countries.We believe that the MPD is a good example of how users of JewishGen's databases can "give back". If you are a member of a synagogue or other organization with memorial plaques or Yizkor lists, please consider helping us to grow this database. You can find more information on submitting data at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm If you have additional questions, please contact me directly. For a complete listing of the institutions currently in the database, please see http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/tree/MemList.htm Nolan Altman NAltman@JewishGen.org JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition June, 2018
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lisaglen18@...
Does anyone know of any ghostwriters who were hired who specialized in helping write memoirs of Holocaust survivors? My father lived in LA until 2001 and had a ghostwriter write a manuscript for him in the 1990's. Unfortunately, it was thrown out and never published. I am searching the ghostwriter that he would have hired to help him to see if perhaps he retained a copy of the manuscript.
Thank you, Lisa Glenner Researching Family Names: MORGENSZTERN, MORGENSTERN, BLASS, BUNIM, KUGEL, SKLAR, GOLDBERG
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(Canada) Ancestry.ca Free Access to Canadian Census Celebrates Canada Day Through July 2
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry.ca is offering free access to Canadian censuses only through July 2
11:59 PM ET in celebration of Canada Day. (Check with time zone converter to convert time to your local time http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc). Registration is required. Name, email address and password is required, no credit card information is requested. The Canadian census records are available >from 1851-1916, with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta >from 1906 and 1916. Go to https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/canadaday . If you access the site from outside Canada you will be directed with a question if you wish to connect with "your" Ancestry- for example >from the US you would be directed to Ancestry.com. Instead click on where it says to continue to Ancestry.ca to the Canadian site or you will not be able to access the free census records collection. . Please access, register and do the search through this page. If you go through the regular site you may be directed to a subscription page. Once you get your results for Canadian Census only-any other record will require a paid subscription-click on the results image. You have the opportunity to save the image to your computer by clicking on the green save button in upper right hand corner. If you click on the tools icon -right side you have the opportunity to print or download the image. If you try to access any other of the collections during or after the free period, or try to access the featured collection after the June 2 cut-off date you will be invited to subscribe to the World Deluxe edition of Ancestry. Canada Day is celebrates on July 1st. It's when Canadians celebrate their heritage. To learn more about Canada Day see: https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/campaigns/celebrate-canada-days/canada-day.html I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Canada) Ancestry.ca Free Access to Canadian Census Celebrates Canada Day Through July 2
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry.ca is offering free access to Canadian censuses only through July 2
11:59 PM ET in celebration of Canada Day. (Check with time zone converter to convert time to your local time http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc). Registration is required. Name, email address and password is required, no credit card information is requested. The Canadian census records are available >from 1851-1916, with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta >from 1906 and 1916. Go to https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/canadaday . If you access the site from outside Canada you will be directed with a question if you wish to connect with "your" Ancestry- for example >from the US you would be directed to Ancestry.com. Instead click on where it says to continue to Ancestry.ca to the Canadian site or you will not be able to access the free census records collection. . Please access, register and do the search through this page. If you go through the regular site you may be directed to a subscription page. Once you get your results for Canadian Census only-any other record will require a paid subscription-click on the results image. You have the opportunity to save the image to your computer by clicking on the green save button in upper right hand corner. If you click on the tools icon -right side you have the opportunity to print or download the image. If you try to access any other of the collections during or after the free period, or try to access the featured collection after the June 2 cut-off date you will be invited to subscribe to the World Deluxe edition of Ancestry. Canada Day is celebrates on July 1st. It's when Canadians celebrate their heritage. To learn more about Canada Day see: https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/campaigns/celebrate-canada-days/canada-day.html I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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A Thank you and an Offer in Cincinnati
#general
Anne Wise
Dear Genners,
I posted a request about a week ago, for a tombstone picture >from Oak Woods Cemetery in Chicago Illinois. In the space of 48 hours I had received 6 offers of pictures, everything >from people willing to go to the cemetery to the Chicago Jewish Historical Society sending actual pictures. The absolute generosity displayed by fellow Genners is heartwarming, And I would like to publicly thank all those who responded. I would also like to offer cemetery lookups in Cincinnati Ohio. I don't have a lot of free time but am willing to do some cemetery runs. Thank you again for all your support. Anne Rothman Wise
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Thank you and an Offer in Cincinnati
#general
Anne Wise
Dear Genners,
I posted a request about a week ago, for a tombstone picture >from Oak Woods Cemetery in Chicago Illinois. In the space of 48 hours I had received 6 offers of pictures, everything >from people willing to go to the cemetery to the Chicago Jewish Historical Society sending actual pictures. The absolute generosity displayed by fellow Genners is heartwarming, And I would like to publicly thank all those who responded. I would also like to offer cemetery lookups in Cincinnati Ohio. I don't have a lot of free time but am willing to do some cemetery runs. Thank you again for all your support. Anne Rothman Wise
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