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Trying to locate descendants of a GELSTEIN family in the 1930 Massachusetts census #ukraine

Jeffrey Knisbacher
 

A Louis GELSTEIN, a furrier, and his wife Fannie, had three daughters:
Anna, Marion and Sarah: 16, 9 and 4. GELSTEIN is a relatively uncommon
Jewish name >from Russia. My family was >from the area around Kamenetz
Podolsk in SW Ukraine. I also know of GELSTEINs >from Belarus, Minsk or
Pinsk area. If anyone knows this family please contact me so that we can
compare info.  I should note that some of "my" GELSTEINs also used the
name GOLDSTEIN.

Jeff Knisbacher
j2456@verizon.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Trying to locate descendants of a GELSTEIN family in the 1930 Massachusetts census #ukraine

Jeffrey Knisbacher
 

A Louis GELSTEIN, a furrier, and his wife Fannie, had three daughters:
Anna, Marion and Sarah: 16, 9 and 4. GELSTEIN is a relatively uncommon
Jewish name >from Russia. My family was >from the area around Kamenetz
Podolsk in SW Ukraine. I also know of GELSTEINs >from Belarus, Minsk or
Pinsk area. If anyone knows this family please contact me so that we can
compare info.  I should note that some of "my" GELSTEINs also used the
name GOLDSTEIN.

Jeff Knisbacher
j2456@verizon.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JGSLA Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture at the IAJGS Warsaw Conference--August 6 6:00PM #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen
 

To those attending the IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference:

Please attend the JGS Los Angeles (JGSLA)- sponsored lecture in memory of
Pamela Weisberger z'l  who was the vice president, programming, JGSLA for
almost a decade, on Monday August 6 at 6:00-7:30pm.  There are no other
conference-sponsored activities at the same time so please plan to attend!

The lecture will be given by Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett. The title is"
Meet the Family: A Journey of a Thousand Years at POLIN Museum: The
JGSLA-Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture"

Topic: How did a forty-year conversation with her father about growing up in
Opatow before the Holocaust prepare Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett to serve
as Chief Curator of the core exhibition at POLIN Museum of the History of
Polish Jews? This thousand-year history is a story of families and
descendants may well find their ancestors in the exhibition: Piotr
Wislicki?s grandfather was an MP in the Polish Sejm during the interwar
years; Sylvain Cappell?s great grandfather Rabbi Dov Berush Meisels
supported struggles for Polish independence during the 19th century;
Elizabeth Rynecki is documenting the paintings of her great grandfather
Moshe Rynecki; Gary Breitbart is dedicated to the legacy of his great
granduncle, the Jewish strongman Zishe Breitbart; and David Mazower
treasures the literary legacy of his controversial grandfather Sholem Asch.
This talk will offer a behind-the-scenes tour of POLIN Museum?s core
exhibition >from a family history perspective.

Speaker: Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett
Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett is Chief Curator of the core exhibition at
POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews. She is University Professor
Emerita and Professor of Performance Studies Emerita at New York University.
Her books include Destination Culture: Tourism, Museums, and Heritage; Image
before My Eyes: A Photographic History of Jewish Life in Poland, 1864?1939
(with Lucjan Dobroszycki); and They Called Me Mayer July: Painted Memories
of a Jewish Childhood in Poland Before the Holocaust, which she coauthored
with her father, Mayer Kirshenblatt. She was born in Canada during the
Second World War to Jewish immigrants >from Poland.

We look forward to seeing you at this special program!

Jan Meisels Allen
Past Chairperson, Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture Committee On Behalf of
the JGSLA Board of Directors


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine JGSLA Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture at the IAJGS Warsaw Conference--August 6 6:00PM #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen
 

To those attending the IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference:

Please attend the JGS Los Angeles (JGSLA)- sponsored lecture in memory of
Pamela Weisberger z'l  who was the vice president, programming, JGSLA for
almost a decade, on Monday August 6 at 6:00-7:30pm.  There are no other
conference-sponsored activities at the same time so please plan to attend!

The lecture will be given by Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett. The title is"
Meet the Family: A Journey of a Thousand Years at POLIN Museum: The
JGSLA-Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture"

Topic: How did a forty-year conversation with her father about growing up in
Opatow before the Holocaust prepare Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett to serve
as Chief Curator of the core exhibition at POLIN Museum of the History of
Polish Jews? This thousand-year history is a story of families and
descendants may well find their ancestors in the exhibition: Piotr
Wislicki?s grandfather was an MP in the Polish Sejm during the interwar
years; Sylvain Cappell?s great grandfather Rabbi Dov Berush Meisels
supported struggles for Polish independence during the 19th century;
Elizabeth Rynecki is documenting the paintings of her great grandfather
Moshe Rynecki; Gary Breitbart is dedicated to the legacy of his great
granduncle, the Jewish strongman Zishe Breitbart; and David Mazower
treasures the literary legacy of his controversial grandfather Sholem Asch.
This talk will offer a behind-the-scenes tour of POLIN Museum?s core
exhibition >from a family history perspective.

Speaker: Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett
Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett is Chief Curator of the core exhibition at
POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews. She is University Professor
Emerita and Professor of Performance Studies Emerita at New York University.
Her books include Destination Culture: Tourism, Museums, and Heritage; Image
before My Eyes: A Photographic History of Jewish Life in Poland, 1864?1939
(with Lucjan Dobroszycki); and They Called Me Mayer July: Painted Memories
of a Jewish Childhood in Poland Before the Holocaust, which she coauthored
with her father, Mayer Kirshenblatt. She was born in Canada during the
Second World War to Jewish immigrants >from Poland.

We look forward to seeing you at this special program!

Jan Meisels Allen
Past Chairperson, Pamela Weisberger Memorial Lecture Committee On Behalf of
the JGSLA Board of Directors


Ruth STARK, Germany --> Ayr, Scotland #general

rv Kaplan
 

Ruth Stark, a refugee >from Germany, was taken in by a Scottish family
called Adler in Ayr, Scotland in 1939.

Does anyone know anything about this lady?

thanks

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ruth STARK, Germany --> Ayr, Scotland #general

rv Kaplan
 

Ruth Stark, a refugee >from Germany, was taken in by a Scottish family
called Adler in Ayr, Scotland in 1939.

Does anyone know anything about this lady?

thanks

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow


New Book: The Unbroken Chain - Third Edition - Volume 3 #general

Gary Mokotoff
 

The third volume (of five) of Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain-Third
Edition" has been published. The new edition is a major improvement to the
previous edition both in number of persons and quality of the work.

Second Edition (1990) Third Edition (2017/18)

Two volumes, 1,350 pages Five volumes, 4,500 pages
20,000 names 42,000 names
Surname-only index Full name index
No illustrations 300 illustrations (Vol 1 alone)
1,600 footnotes 1,000 footnotes (Vol. 1 alone)
Up to 16 generations Up to 22 generations

"The Unbroken Chain" documents the descendants of Rabbi Meir
Katzenellenbogen (MaHaRaM) of Padua (1482-1565) and Rabbi Judah Lowe
(MaHaRaL) of Prague through 22 generations.

Ordering information for any of the three volumes is at
http://www.avotaynu.com/books/UnbrokenChain-1.html . The site includes a
complete list of names for each of the three volumes, as well their Tables
of Contents.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Book: The Unbroken Chain - Third Edition - Volume 3 #general

Gary Mokotoff
 

The third volume (of five) of Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain-Third
Edition" has been published. The new edition is a major improvement to the
previous edition both in number of persons and quality of the work.

Second Edition (1990) Third Edition (2017/18)

Two volumes, 1,350 pages Five volumes, 4,500 pages
20,000 names 42,000 names
Surname-only index Full name index
No illustrations 300 illustrations (Vol 1 alone)
1,600 footnotes 1,000 footnotes (Vol. 1 alone)
Up to 16 generations Up to 22 generations

"The Unbroken Chain" documents the descendants of Rabbi Meir
Katzenellenbogen (MaHaRaM) of Padua (1482-1565) and Rabbi Judah Lowe
(MaHaRaL) of Prague through 22 generations.

Ordering information for any of the three volumes is at
http://www.avotaynu.com/books/UnbrokenChain-1.html . The site includes a
complete list of names for each of the three volumes, as well their Tables
of Contents.

Gary Mokotoff


New Article on IGRA website- A Cautionary Tale or A Genealogist's Nightmare #general

Elena Bazes
 

IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research Association) has posted a new article
on its website,

"A Cautionary Tale or A Genealogist's Nightmare "- by Ingrid Rockberger.

Ingrid tells of a recent experience she had while researching her
family that many of us are familiar with-vital family documents and
photos that had been kept by a family member, disappearing after the
family member dies.

She goes on to give us some tips you can take to make sure that that
information about your family is preserved for future generations and
not lost as so often is the case.

Ingrid Rockberger has been interested in genealogy for almost 20 years
and has done extensive research on various branches of her family.
Ingrid worked as Managing Editor and Publisher of an English-language
magazine in Israel, and later as a ghost-writer for people's memoirs
and family histories, including some publications for Yad Vashem.
Ingrid is a past Board Member of IGRA. She has been Chair of a
genealogy group that has been meeting in Ra'anana for over 15 years,
originally part of JFRA and for the past few years part of IGRA.
Ingrid and her family came to live in Israel in 1981.

Before viewing the article, please register for free on the IGRA website

http://genealogy.org.il/

The article is available for free for one month to non-members, after
which time it can be accessed by IGRA members only.

To view the article go to:

https://genealogy.org.il/2018/07/14/a-cautionary-tale-or-a-genealogists-nightmare-by-ingrid-rockberger/
[or https://tinyurl.com/y936jnvo --Mod.]

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Article on IGRA website- A Cautionary Tale or A Genealogist's Nightmare #general

Elena Bazes
 

IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research Association) has posted a new article
on its website,

"A Cautionary Tale or A Genealogist's Nightmare "- by Ingrid Rockberger.

Ingrid tells of a recent experience she had while researching her
family that many of us are familiar with-vital family documents and
photos that had been kept by a family member, disappearing after the
family member dies.

She goes on to give us some tips you can take to make sure that that
information about your family is preserved for future generations and
not lost as so often is the case.

Ingrid Rockberger has been interested in genealogy for almost 20 years
and has done extensive research on various branches of her family.
Ingrid worked as Managing Editor and Publisher of an English-language
magazine in Israel, and later as a ghost-writer for people's memoirs
and family histories, including some publications for Yad Vashem.
Ingrid is a past Board Member of IGRA. She has been Chair of a
genealogy group that has been meeting in Ra'anana for over 15 years,
originally part of JFRA and for the past few years part of IGRA.
Ingrid and her family came to live in Israel in 1981.

Before viewing the article, please register for free on the IGRA website

http://genealogy.org.il/

The article is available for free for one month to non-members, after
which time it can be accessed by IGRA members only.

To view the article go to:

https://genealogy.org.il/2018/07/14/a-cautionary-tale-or-a-genealogists-nightmare-by-ingrid-rockberger/
[or https://tinyurl.com/y936jnvo --Mod.]

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


Do you recognize GITTES family Philadelphia or GITTES/JAFFE Family in Photos #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted two photos on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68660 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68661 .
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you recognize GITTES family Philadelphia or GITTES/JAFFE Family in Photos #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted two photos on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68660 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68661 .
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area


Cuban Tombstone Translation Hebrew GITTES #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted a photo of a Cuban matseva for which I need a
Hebrew translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68659
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cuban Tombstone Translation Hebrew GITTES #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted a photo of a Cuban matseva for which I need a
Hebrew translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68659
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area


Viewmate Translation Request: Lithuanian re BAKRAKH/FILVINSKY Family #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted two documents in Lithuanian for which I need a
complete translation. They are on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68662 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68664 .

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much,
Susan Goldsmith
SF Bay Area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Translation Request: Lithuanian re BAKRAKH/FILVINSKY Family #general

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have posted two documents in Lithuanian for which I need a
complete translation. They are on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68662 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68664 .

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much,
Susan Goldsmith
SF Bay Area


Dorothy Markowitz #general

Tsiporah Trom
 

Trying to make contact with the descendants of Dorothy Markowitz,
who was living at ** Royce Avenue, Middletown, New York, after WWII.

Regarding her family ties to war orphans, Willy and Robert RAJZMAN
(SIDELSKY) >from Paris.

Please respond privately.

Thank you in advance.

Tsiporah TROM
Antwerp, Belgium

Researching KANTOROVICH and LEVITAN >from Raseiniai


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dorothy Markowitz #general

Tsiporah Trom
 

Trying to make contact with the descendants of Dorothy Markowitz,
who was living at ** Royce Avenue, Middletown, New York, after WWII.

Regarding her family ties to war orphans, Willy and Robert RAJZMAN
(SIDELSKY) >from Paris.

Please respond privately.

Thank you in advance.

Tsiporah TROM
Antwerp, Belgium

Researching KANTOROVICH and LEVITAN >from Raseiniai


Philadelphia Marriage Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Debbie Terman asked about Philadelphia Marriage records. Public records do
not mean free records, but that the public has access to the records and in
this case does not appear to have any embargo periods preventing access.
Some jurisdiction do not consider vital records public records and impose
long embargo periods under the guise of "privacy". Many jurisdictions
require a payment for first the look up and then the copy of the record.
Looking at the City of Philadelphia marriage records webpage they charge $15
for look up and $25.00 for the certified copy. This is to cover their staff
costs for time and copying if needed. These prices are not out of line with
what many other jurisdictions charge:
http://secureprod.phila.gov/wills/marriagerecordinfo.aspx

To try to reduce the cost, Debbie could look at the Philadelphia, PA
marriage licenses index >from 1885-1951-for those that ware deceased-- (If
the marriage took place within those time frames) and get the record number
and supply that to the Philadelphia Register of Wills which has the
authority over the marriage records, hopefully negating the $15.00 charge.
To look at the online index >from 1885-1951 see:

FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1388247
or ancestry.com
https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx
Ancestry is a subscription site and if you do not have a subscription many
public libraries have access on their computers as do Family History Centers.

Marriages after 1951 are not indexed on either genealogy site and therefore
the$15 charge to look up the certificate number would apply.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia Marriage Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Debbie Terman asked about Philadelphia Marriage records. Public records do
not mean free records, but that the public has access to the records and in
this case does not appear to have any embargo periods preventing access.
Some jurisdiction do not consider vital records public records and impose
long embargo periods under the guise of "privacy". Many jurisdictions
require a payment for first the look up and then the copy of the record.
Looking at the City of Philadelphia marriage records webpage they charge $15
for look up and $25.00 for the certified copy. This is to cover their staff
costs for time and copying if needed. These prices are not out of line with
what many other jurisdictions charge:
http://secureprod.phila.gov/wills/marriagerecordinfo.aspx

To try to reduce the cost, Debbie could look at the Philadelphia, PA
marriage licenses index >from 1885-1951-for those that ware deceased-- (If
the marriage took place within those time frames) and get the record number
and supply that to the Philadelphia Register of Wills which has the
authority over the marriage records, hopefully negating the $15.00 charge.
To look at the online index >from 1885-1951 see:

FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1388247
or ancestry.com
https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx
Ancestry is a subscription site and if you do not have a subscription many
public libraries have access on their computers as do Family History Centers.

Marriages after 1951 are not indexed on either genealogy site and therefore
the$15 charge to look up the certificate number would apply.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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