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Re: Seeking Shmuel Katz near Lvov
#galicia
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Shmuel.
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I can not assist you with the search for Katz family. But I can help with the location identification. Shtetl Gologo(u)ry (Gologury) [goloh gooryh] which means the "naked hills" is currently located in Zloczow district (oblast') of Tarnopol (Ternopil) Province.Town name did not change. You are probably aware that JRI-P is conducting currently indexing for the 19th century AGAD Warsaw records, and their work has started with Tarnopol Province. You might be able soon to search for Zloczow and Gologory records on line. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
I am seeking information on Shmuel Katz in Gora Gura (Gologury?),
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Seeking Shmuel Katz near Lvov
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Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Shmuel.
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I can not assist you with the search for Katz family. But I can help with the location identification. Shtetl Gologo(u)ry (Gologury) [goloh gooryh] which means the "naked hills" is currently located in Zloczow district (oblast') of Tarnopol (Ternopil) Province.Town name did not change. You are probably aware that JRI-P is conducting currently indexing for the 19th century AGAD Warsaw records, and their work has started with Tarnopol Province. You might be able soon to search for Zloczow and Gologory records on line. Alexander Sharon mailto: a.sharon@home.com
I am seeking information on Shmuel Katz in Gora Gura (Gologury?),
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Statistics on Jews in Eastern Galicia - final remarks
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Dear Alex,
You wrote: "I have been awaiting >from Peter promised detailed data on 1921 and 1931 Poland census results and the clear definition of the "Jewish nationality" term." Unfortunately my limited mobility due to my recent injury prevented me from getting to the appropriate resources. A friend has promised however to look for and deliver such materials to my home, and if it happens I will certainly analize them and share my findings with you. I did some reading on the subject and found a comment that in 1921 census there was some ambiguity regarding Belorussians. The assimilated, Polish-speaking, Roman-Catholics of Belorussian ancestry were counted as Poles. This, by reference, leads us to better understanding of possible source of difference in numbers of Galician Jews by nationality and faith in the 1921 census. You wrote: On a final note I strongly disagree with Peter that Versailles Treaty did not deal with the borders issue." I guess, this was a misunderstanding rather than a difference of opinion. I meant that the Peace Treaty of Nov. 11, 1918 did not deal with borders. The June 28, 1919 Versailles Treaty dealt with borders and it dealt very extensively with the borders of Germany including the Polish-German border. The overall detailed boundaries of Europe, including the non-German boundaries of Poland had not been determined there yet. Section VIII (Poland), Article 87 says "The boundaries of Poland not laid down in the present Treaty will be subsequently determined by the Principal Allied and Associated Powers." The Treaty of St. Germain (September 1919) has also left the final disposition of Eastern Galicia unresolved thus unleashing Pilsudskis dreams of multi-ethnic Poland including all of Galicia and Ukrainian dreams of sovereignty. You wrote: "I would also like to clarify that my Dad communicated in Hebrew to his first wife in prewar Poland, not to my Mom who spoke Yiddish." I find this subject fascinating and hope to hear more >from others on the use of Hebrew in Poland. Thank you Alex. My pleasure having this conversation. Thank you all who are still willing to read. Peter Jassem, Toronto, Ontario jassep@tdbank.ca
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Statistics on Jews in Eastern Galicia - final remarks
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Dear Alex,
You wrote: "I have been awaiting >from Peter promised detailed data on 1921 and 1931 Poland census results and the clear definition of the "Jewish nationality" term." Unfortunately my limited mobility due to my recent injury prevented me from getting to the appropriate resources. A friend has promised however to look for and deliver such materials to my home, and if it happens I will certainly analize them and share my findings with you. I did some reading on the subject and found a comment that in 1921 census there was some ambiguity regarding Belorussians. The assimilated, Polish-speaking, Roman-Catholics of Belorussian ancestry were counted as Poles. This, by reference, leads us to better understanding of possible source of difference in numbers of Galician Jews by nationality and faith in the 1921 census. You wrote: On a final note I strongly disagree with Peter that Versailles Treaty did not deal with the borders issue." I guess, this was a misunderstanding rather than a difference of opinion. I meant that the Peace Treaty of Nov. 11, 1918 did not deal with borders. The June 28, 1919 Versailles Treaty dealt with borders and it dealt very extensively with the borders of Germany including the Polish-German border. The overall detailed boundaries of Europe, including the non-German boundaries of Poland had not been determined there yet. Section VIII (Poland), Article 87 says "The boundaries of Poland not laid down in the present Treaty will be subsequently determined by the Principal Allied and Associated Powers." The Treaty of St. Germain (September 1919) has also left the final disposition of Eastern Galicia unresolved thus unleashing Pilsudskis dreams of multi-ethnic Poland including all of Galicia and Ukrainian dreams of sovereignty. You wrote: "I would also like to clarify that my Dad communicated in Hebrew to his first wife in prewar Poland, not to my Mom who spoke Yiddish." I find this subject fascinating and hope to hear more >from others on the use of Hebrew in Poland. Thank you Alex. My pleasure having this conversation. Thank you all who are still willing to read. Peter Jassem, Toronto, Ontario jassep@tdbank.ca
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Site Cite: Famous Jews - Yahoodi
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Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
Hello,
A site listing famous Jews, sorted according to categories (such as actors, heroes, gangsters, lawyers, etc.) can be found at: http://www.yahoodi.com/famous/famstart.html It is not a perfect site (some broken links), but still provides some interesting reading. from Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv, Israel ntevet@netvision.net.il MODERATOR NOTE: This Discussion Group has hosted may past discussions about famous Jewish people. These are all archived in the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at <http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>. All further discussion should relate to genealogy.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Site Cite: Famous Jews - Yahoodi
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Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
Hello,
A site listing famous Jews, sorted according to categories (such as actors, heroes, gangsters, lawyers, etc.) can be found at: http://www.yahoodi.com/famous/famstart.html It is not a perfect site (some broken links), but still provides some interesting reading. from Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv, Israel ntevet@netvision.net.il MODERATOR NOTE: This Discussion Group has hosted may past discussions about famous Jewish people. These are all archived in the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at <http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>. All further discussion should relate to genealogy.
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Passenger arrivals pre-1850
#usa
Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
Dennis Baer has proposed in German SIG leading a project to index a
small number of arrivals in New York >from Germany for 1848. It was pointed out by others that a large number of immigrants did not arrive via New York during that era, but came through New Orleans or Baltimore. I think an ideal first project for Early American SIG might be to choose a year and a port (pre-1850, as that is when "Germans to America" starts--I know it's not complete, but it would be good to start with something that hasn't been done at all) and work on indexing/transcribing ship arrivals into the US. Most of the projects ongoing I know of are for much later eras. I believe the lists should be available on microfilm through the LDS (although I have not checked this). Who would be interested in working on such a project (more importantly, we need a leader) and what year/port would be a good starting point? Since we only have a bit over 100 members, we should probably start with something fairly small. Write to the list and propose a year and a port--hopefully we can find a combination that a lot of people are interested in so that it will be easy to find volunteers. Perhaps it can be a joint project between Early American SIG and German SIG. -- Rachel Unkefer Charlottesville, VA runkefer@cstone.net
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Early American SIG #USA Passenger arrivals pre-1850
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Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
Dennis Baer has proposed in German SIG leading a project to index a
small number of arrivals in New York >from Germany for 1848. It was pointed out by others that a large number of immigrants did not arrive via New York during that era, but came through New Orleans or Baltimore. I think an ideal first project for Early American SIG might be to choose a year and a port (pre-1850, as that is when "Germans to America" starts--I know it's not complete, but it would be good to start with something that hasn't been done at all) and work on indexing/transcribing ship arrivals into the US. Most of the projects ongoing I know of are for much later eras. I believe the lists should be available on microfilm through the LDS (although I have not checked this). Who would be interested in working on such a project (more importantly, we need a leader) and what year/port would be a good starting point? Since we only have a bit over 100 members, we should probably start with something fairly small. Write to the list and propose a year and a port--hopefully we can find a combination that a lot of people are interested in so that it will be easy to find volunteers. Perhaps it can be a joint project between Early American SIG and German SIG. -- Rachel Unkefer Charlottesville, VA runkefer@cstone.net
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Mohel Records
#usa
Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
RE: Mohel Records =
I read an e-mail yesterday >from Joseph Fibel re. Mohel records. = Unfortunately, I deleted the e-mail, and then later decided I needed to interject. The jist of the moderator's not was that Jewishgen is not seeking mohel records out of deference to the Leo Baeck Institute who is in the process= of putting together some kind of database. I know when I proposed the Rodeph Shalom Database, the Gersig moderator made a comment about checking with Karen Franklin at LBI to make sure tha= t this kind of database wasn't already out there. I have communicated with= Karen quite a few times in the past, so I did give Karen a call and she w= as most encouraging. She even made a statement that she would also like to know if Kenneseth Israel (in Philadelphia) had similar records and she wanted to know if I was planning to record these as well. (No, I have no such plans... at least at this time.) Now I can see that LBI probably has a lot of records >from Germany, but I wouldn't expect them to be a repository for US mohel records. I don't se= e any reason why Jewishgen wouldn't be thrilled to have on-line information= from any of the old US Congregations. = I also know that mohel records were published by Generations, the Baltimore Jewish Genealogy Publication. (Fall 1989 and Summer 1991) = Presently, this information isn't on-line and I think it might be worthwhile to check and see if they have such plans. = Anyway, I was not aware until yesterday that Jewishgen is staying away fr= om mohel records in deference to the LBI. However, I think we maybe need to= clarify just which records are in the LBI collection. There must be man= y US congregations with such records. Perhaps the AJA would be the best place to check. (That is who sent me all of my information and has been very supportive.) Janet Billstein Akaha Salinas, CA =
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Early American SIG #USA Mohel Records
#usa
Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
RE: Mohel Records =
I read an e-mail yesterday >from Joseph Fibel re. Mohel records. = Unfortunately, I deleted the e-mail, and then later decided I needed to interject. The jist of the moderator's not was that Jewishgen is not seeking mohel records out of deference to the Leo Baeck Institute who is in the process= of putting together some kind of database. I know when I proposed the Rodeph Shalom Database, the Gersig moderator made a comment about checking with Karen Franklin at LBI to make sure tha= t this kind of database wasn't already out there. I have communicated with= Karen quite a few times in the past, so I did give Karen a call and she w= as most encouraging. She even made a statement that she would also like to know if Kenneseth Israel (in Philadelphia) had similar records and she wanted to know if I was planning to record these as well. (No, I have no such plans... at least at this time.) Now I can see that LBI probably has a lot of records >from Germany, but I wouldn't expect them to be a repository for US mohel records. I don't se= e any reason why Jewishgen wouldn't be thrilled to have on-line information= from any of the old US Congregations. = I also know that mohel records were published by Generations, the Baltimore Jewish Genealogy Publication. (Fall 1989 and Summer 1991) = Presently, this information isn't on-line and I think it might be worthwhile to check and see if they have such plans. = Anyway, I was not aware until yesterday that Jewishgen is staying away fr= om mohel records in deference to the LBI. However, I think we maybe need to= clarify just which records are in the LBI collection. There must be man= y US congregations with such records. Perhaps the AJA would be the best place to check. (That is who sent me all of my information and has been very supportive.) Janet Billstein Akaha Salinas, CA =
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Need Help--Translation of Polish Birth Certificate (ViewMate #322)
#general
Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Hoping someone can help translate a Polish vital record >from shtetl Rypin
which I've posted at ViewMate (#322). I think it's a birth record, but I'm embarrassed to say I cannot be certain (a sure sign I need some assistance!). The time frame is the 1860s. Here is a direct link to view the document: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/vm322.html Thank you! Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching >from Galicia: SONNENBLUM (Gorodenka); STUPP (Gorodenka); SCHOR (Gorodenka); KOFLER (Gorodenka); DIENER (Gorodenka); SOCKEL (Solotwina); SCHNEID (Solotwina); SCHIEBER (Kossow); SCHAUDER (Kossow); KLEIN (Kossow) searching >from Russia/Poland: DWORSKI (Raczki); MINSKY (Raczki, Sopotskin, Galynka); SILVERSTEIN (Raczki); LEVATINSKY (Raczki, Augustow); BRAMA (Rypin); BRAUN / BROWN (Rypin); GRZEBIEN / GESBEN (Sierpc);LOPATKA (Sierpc)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Help--Translation of Polish Birth Certificate (ViewMate #322)
#general
Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Hoping someone can help translate a Polish vital record >from shtetl Rypin
which I've posted at ViewMate (#322). I think it's a birth record, but I'm embarrassed to say I cannot be certain (a sure sign I need some assistance!). The time frame is the 1860s. Here is a direct link to view the document: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/vm322.html Thank you! Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching >from Galicia: SONNENBLUM (Gorodenka); STUPP (Gorodenka); SCHOR (Gorodenka); KOFLER (Gorodenka); DIENER (Gorodenka); SOCKEL (Solotwina); SCHNEID (Solotwina); SCHIEBER (Kossow); SCHAUDER (Kossow); KLEIN (Kossow) searching >from Russia/Poland: DWORSKI (Raczki); MINSKY (Raczki, Sopotskin, Galynka); SILVERSTEIN (Raczki); LEVATINSKY (Raczki, Augustow); BRAMA (Rypin); BRAUN / BROWN (Rypin); GRZEBIEN / GESBEN (Sierpc);LOPATKA (Sierpc)
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Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland ShtetLinks now online!
#general
Seflaum@...
Dear JGeners,
I am pleased to announce the launch of a ShtetLinks site commemorating the Jewish community of Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland. http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/piotrkowtryb/ Piotrkow Trybunalski is located 42 kilometers or 26 miles south-southeast of Lodz. It was an important Jewish cultural, religious and Hebrew publishing center in pre-war Poland. This site is a work in progress. We hope to add much more interesting and useful information to the site in the near future. Your contributions of information, documents or photos are always welcome. Special thanks go to Marla Waltman Daschko, Ben Giladi, Paul W. Ginsburg, Alice and Maurice Klinger, Leonard Markowitz and Petje Schroeder for their invaluable contributions to the site. I also want to thank John Berman, Chuck Weinstein and the entire ShtetLinks team for their assistance in making ShtetLinks sites like this possible. They are a pleasure to work with. Best Regards, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Houston, Texas
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland ShtetLinks now online!
#general
Seflaum@...
Dear JGeners,
I am pleased to announce the launch of a ShtetLinks site commemorating the Jewish community of Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland. http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/piotrkowtryb/ Piotrkow Trybunalski is located 42 kilometers or 26 miles south-southeast of Lodz. It was an important Jewish cultural, religious and Hebrew publishing center in pre-war Poland. This site is a work in progress. We hope to add much more interesting and useful information to the site in the near future. Your contributions of information, documents or photos are always welcome. Special thanks go to Marla Waltman Daschko, Ben Giladi, Paul W. Ginsburg, Alice and Maurice Klinger, Leonard Markowitz and Petje Schroeder for their invaluable contributions to the site. I also want to thank John Berman, Chuck Weinstein and the entire ShtetLinks team for their assistance in making ShtetLinks sites like this possible. They are a pleasure to work with. Best Regards, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Houston, Texas
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Re: Need ideas on naturalizations
#general
Howard Bensen <aj680@...>
Doug Cohen wrote:
Have you found his ship-manifest? Starting around 1907-10 or something,The number Doug refers to is the Certificate of Arrival. An excellent article on this subject in the Spring 1996 issue of Avotaynu, Interpreting U.S. Immigration Manifest Annotations, by Marian L. Smith, is a clear and comprehensive explanation of these numbers. Since I knew where my mother was living around the date of the Certicicate of Arrival it was possible for the County Clerk's office to find her Petition for Naturalization in their archives. Incidentally, the Cerificate number is recorded in the Petition. This subject pops up >from time to time, if you look through the archives. Howard Bensen Woodland Hills, CA MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at <http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need ideas on naturalizations
#general
Howard Bensen <aj680@...>
Doug Cohen wrote:
Have you found his ship-manifest? Starting around 1907-10 or something,The number Doug refers to is the Certificate of Arrival. An excellent article on this subject in the Spring 1996 issue of Avotaynu, Interpreting U.S. Immigration Manifest Annotations, by Marian L. Smith, is a clear and comprehensive explanation of these numbers. Since I knew where my mother was living around the date of the Certicicate of Arrival it was possible for the County Clerk's office to find her Petition for Naturalization in their archives. Incidentally, the Cerificate number is recorded in the Petition. This subject pops up >from time to time, if you look through the archives. Howard Bensen Woodland Hills, CA MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at <http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>.
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Seflaum@...
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I am pleased to announce the launch of a ShtetLinks web site commemorating the Jewish community of Piotrkow Trybunalski. http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/piotrkowtryb/ This site is a work in progress. We hope to add much more interesting and useful information to the site in the near future. Your contributions of information, documents or photos are always welcome. Special thanks go to Marla Waltman Daschko, Ben Giladi, Paul W. Ginsburg, Alice and Maurice Klinger(my newly found cousins), Leonard Markowitz and Petje Schroder for their invaluable contributions to the site. I also want to thank John Berman, Chuck Weinstein and the entire ShtetLinks team for their assistance in making ShtetLinks sites like this possible. They are a pleasure to work with. Best Regards, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Houston, Texas
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Seflaum@...
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I am pleased to announce the launch of a ShtetLinks web site commemorating the Jewish community of Piotrkow Trybunalski. http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/piotrkowtryb/ This site is a work in progress. We hope to add much more interesting and useful information to the site in the near future. Your contributions of information, documents or photos are always welcome. Special thanks go to Marla Waltman Daschko, Ben Giladi, Paul W. Ginsburg, Alice and Maurice Klinger(my newly found cousins), Leonard Markowitz and Petje Schroder for their invaluable contributions to the site. I also want to thank John Berman, Chuck Weinstein and the entire ShtetLinks team for their assistance in making ShtetLinks sites like this possible. They are a pleasure to work with. Best Regards, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Houston, Texas
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To insure confidence
#general
Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
It has come to our attention that many people are deleting individual
messages >from people whose names they do not recognize for fear the messages may be virused. To calm fears, to make certain that all 'genners receive the messages sent by other researchers, we have taken steps to indicate that a person whose name or e-mail address is unknown to you is "kosher" <grin> all messages coming >from this mailing list will have [jewishgen] prepended to the subject line. Carol Skydell, Vice President JewishGen Operations
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen To insure confidence
#general
Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
It has come to our attention that many people are deleting individual
messages >from people whose names they do not recognize for fear the messages may be virused. To calm fears, to make certain that all 'genners receive the messages sent by other researchers, we have taken steps to indicate that a person whose name or e-mail address is unknown to you is "kosher" <grin> all messages coming >from this mailing list will have [jewishgen] prepended to the subject line. Carol Skydell, Vice President JewishGen Operations
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