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Jewish cemeteries, progress #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello researchers,

I want to add to my monthly report about the Jewish cemeteries project progress. I already told you
what is going on in Kishinev Jewish Cemetery, but here are more:

Brichany cemetery, Phase 2 - Clearing paths, cleaning, etc. - all work is done, photographs were
taken, and now team is working on indexing, deciphering the inscriptions. Hopefully, we will end
this project in 2-3 months.

Lipkany cemetery, Phase 2 - team of people are now at the cemetery cutting trees, cleaning, and
photographing the stones. It probably will need a second trip if one is not enough. Planning to do
everything including indexing by end of the year.

Ryshkany Jewish cemetery, planning to photograph this spring

Cemetery in Brazil, with people >from Bessarabia, transcription is done, and records will be sent to
JOWBR next month

Ataki Jewish Cemetery, Phase 2 - Clearing paths, cleaning will be done in the fall of 2019 or spring
of 2020

Klishkivtsi, TWO Jewish cemeteries - plan to work there in the fall of 2019

TWO MORE Jewish cemeteries were discovered in Bessarabia by Serghei Daniliuk! They are very small,
what left >from them, and photographing is done already. Serghei will send a message about it to our
group.

Please let me know if you have any questions, suggestions.

all the best,

Shabbat Shalom,
Yefim Kogan,
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Jewish cemeteries, progress #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello researchers,

I want to add to my monthly report about the Jewish cemeteries project progress. I already told you
what is going on in Kishinev Jewish Cemetery, but here are more:

Brichany cemetery, Phase 2 - Clearing paths, cleaning, etc. - all work is done, photographs were
taken, and now team is working on indexing, deciphering the inscriptions. Hopefully, we will end
this project in 2-3 months.

Lipkany cemetery, Phase 2 - team of people are now at the cemetery cutting trees, cleaning, and
photographing the stones. It probably will need a second trip if one is not enough. Planning to do
everything including indexing by end of the year.

Ryshkany Jewish cemetery, planning to photograph this spring

Cemetery in Brazil, with people >from Bessarabia, transcription is done, and records will be sent to
JOWBR next month

Ataki Jewish Cemetery, Phase 2 - Clearing paths, cleaning will be done in the fall of 2019 or spring
of 2020

Klishkivtsi, TWO Jewish cemeteries - plan to work there in the fall of 2019

TWO MORE Jewish cemeteries were discovered in Bessarabia by Serghei Daniliuk! They are very small,
what left >from them, and photographing is done already. Serghei will send a message about it to our
group.

Please let me know if you have any questions, suggestions.

all the best,

Shabbat Shalom,
Yefim Kogan,
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Searching for Family Roots - Chawe FLAMM nee WOLFSTHAL - Born in Husiatyn, Buried in Frankfurt #galicia

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Colleagues,

I am researching family roots, specifically focusing on Chawe FLAMM
nee WOLFSTHAL who was born in Husiatyn, Galicia (August 16, 1867),
moved to Germany at some point, and was buried in Frankfurt (March 11,
1930).

My specific challenge is in obtaining the names of Chawe's *mother*
and *father*. This info is key for my research. Chawe's birth in Husiatyn
is well documented in her death and late-marriage records, and in family
letters. But I could not find Chawe's birth record in JRI or Gesher Galicia.

Chawe was married to Jacob FLAMM. I have her marriage and death
records, but the parent names are not written in either of those.

In the diary of her late grandson, he mentions her grave in
Frankfurt's "Old Jewish Cemetery", "located about a mile >from the new
Cemetery that was opened in early 30s".

I would like to ask this group for help. Specifically,

(1) Any idea if and where I can find specific information about
Chawe's parents (Galicia)?

(2) Any idea if and how I can find this specific old Jewish cemetery
in Frankfurt, and the specific tombstone? Or a contact point?

Thank you,

Prof. Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel
Yaron.wolfsthal@gmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching for Family Roots - Chawe FLAMM nee WOLFSTHAL - Born in Husiatyn, Buried in Frankfurt #galicia

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Colleagues,

I am researching family roots, specifically focusing on Chawe FLAMM
nee WOLFSTHAL who was born in Husiatyn, Galicia (August 16, 1867),
moved to Germany at some point, and was buried in Frankfurt (March 11,
1930).

My specific challenge is in obtaining the names of Chawe's *mother*
and *father*. This info is key for my research. Chawe's birth in Husiatyn
is well documented in her death and late-marriage records, and in family
letters. But I could not find Chawe's birth record in JRI or Gesher Galicia.

Chawe was married to Jacob FLAMM. I have her marriage and death
records, but the parent names are not written in either of those.

In the diary of her late grandson, he mentions her grave in
Frankfurt's "Old Jewish Cemetery", "located about a mile >from the new
Cemetery that was opened in early 30s".

I would like to ask this group for help. Specifically,

(1) Any idea if and where I can find specific information about
Chawe's parents (Galicia)?

(2) Any idea if and how I can find this specific old Jewish cemetery
in Frankfurt, and the specific tombstone? Or a contact point?

Thank you,

Prof. Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel
Yaron.wolfsthal@gmail.com


Re: Birth record search help - Glatz/Klodzko, Silesia #germany

Roger Lustig
 

The records in Berlin are only the surviving duplicate registers, i.e.,
went to Berlin only if Poland had the other copy. They are indexed and
available on ancestry.com, including what looks to be a relatively
complete collection for Glatz. However, Nomi is looking for a post-WWII
record, so the relevant years will not be covered there.

Glatz birth records (first copy) over 100 years old should be in the
Wroclaw archive. The more recent ones are most likely at the USC
(registry) office in Klodzko.

Roger Lustig,  Princeton, NJ USA,  research coordinator, GerSIG

Corinna Woehrl wrote:
Hello Nomi,
as far as I know the BMD-records of the former "Eastern German
Provinces" are kept at the the "Standesamt" in Berlin and
"Landesarchiv Berlin" - the first keep the documents within the retention
period, the latter the older documents. You may have to use a
browser-translator as the information is solely provided in German:
<https://www.berlin.de/labo/buergerdienste/standesamt-i-in-berlin/>


German SIG #Germany Re: Birth record search help - Glatz/Klodzko, Silesia #germany

Roger Lustig
 

The records in Berlin are only the surviving duplicate registers, i.e.,
went to Berlin only if Poland had the other copy. They are indexed and
available on ancestry.com, including what looks to be a relatively
complete collection for Glatz. However, Nomi is looking for a post-WWII
record, so the relevant years will not be covered there.

Glatz birth records (first copy) over 100 years old should be in the
Wroclaw archive. The more recent ones are most likely at the USC
(registry) office in Klodzko.

Roger Lustig,  Princeton, NJ USA,  research coordinator, GerSIG

Corinna Woehrl wrote:
Hello Nomi,
as far as I know the BMD-records of the former "Eastern German
Provinces" are kept at the the "Standesamt" in Berlin and
"Landesarchiv Berlin" - the first keep the documents within the retention
period, the latter the older documents. You may have to use a
browser-translator as the information is solely provided in German:
<https://www.berlin.de/labo/buergerdienste/standesamt-i-in-berlin/>


Thanks Re: Acronym Puzzle: N I S F (a Puzzle no Longer) #general

Madeleine Isenberg
 

Hi Genners,

Once again the usefulness of this discussion group has come through.
Even before the digest of the day had reached my inbox, Glenda Rubin
came through with an answer and David Barrett with one slightly more
detailed. So not to keep the rest of you in suspense:

N = Netherland
I = Israelitisch
S = Sick
F = Fund

This was a Burial Society for Dutch deceased American Jews, presumably
very similar to other landsmanschaften.

I had found the photo of the people of interest about a year ago, and
apparently didn't remember this week that it had been in JOWBR. After
getting Glenda's response, I checked JOWBR again, and noted they were
indeed buried in "Bayside Cemetery/Netherlands Society #1 (Gate 18),"
in Queens, NY (see family name PEREIRA, for Esther and Jacob).

However, I'm not sure at that time I would have made the now obvious
connection to the acronym without the help of Glenda and David!

Thanks to all,

Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com
Beverly Hills, CA

Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various
parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Dembno,
Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia;
KOHN and GOLDSTEIN in Tolcsva, Hungary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks Re: Acronym Puzzle: N I S F (a Puzzle no Longer) #general

Madeleine Isenberg
 

Hi Genners,

Once again the usefulness of this discussion group has come through.
Even before the digest of the day had reached my inbox, Glenda Rubin
came through with an answer and David Barrett with one slightly more
detailed. So not to keep the rest of you in suspense:

N = Netherland
I = Israelitisch
S = Sick
F = Fund

This was a Burial Society for Dutch deceased American Jews, presumably
very similar to other landsmanschaften.

I had found the photo of the people of interest about a year ago, and
apparently didn't remember this week that it had been in JOWBR. After
getting Glenda's response, I checked JOWBR again, and noted they were
indeed buried in "Bayside Cemetery/Netherlands Society #1 (Gate 18),"
in Queens, NY (see family name PEREIRA, for Esther and Jacob).

However, I'm not sure at that time I would have made the now obvious
connection to the acronym without the help of Glenda and David!

Thanks to all,

Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com
Beverly Hills, CA

Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various
parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Dembno,
Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia;
KOHN and GOLDSTEIN in Tolcsva, Hungary


Re: Dorna Vatra #romania

Paul Guth <pdguth@...>
 

Not wanting to start a controversy, I must point out that Vatra Dornei
is not the name used in the records and histories of the town.
The Austrian name was Dorna-Watra, and I cite the Bukovina birth
records in the JewishGen databases as well as Scholarly works,
such as "History of the Jews in the Bukovina" edited Dr. Hugo Gold
and written by Prof. Dr. H. Sternberg.

Paul Guth

On Apr 3, 2019, Monica Friedlander wrote:

Hope you don't mind me chiming in, but the town is Vatra Dornei.
The river is Dorna, but the city is Vatra Dornei ("of the Dorna").
It might create confusion in searches.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Dorna Vatra #romania

Paul Guth <pdguth@...>
 

Not wanting to start a controversy, I must point out that Vatra Dornei
is not the name used in the records and histories of the town.
The Austrian name was Dorna-Watra, and I cite the Bukovina birth
records in the JewishGen databases as well as Scholarly works,
such as "History of the Jews in the Bukovina" edited Dr. Hugo Gold
and written by Prof. Dr. H. Sternberg.

Paul Guth

On Apr 3, 2019, Monica Friedlander wrote:

Hope you don't mind me chiming in, but the town is Vatra Dornei.
The river is Dorna, but the city is Vatra Dornei ("of the Dorna").
It might create confusion in searches.


very long matching segment #dna

Marilyn Gelber
 

Marilyn Gelber <marilyn.gelber@gmail.com>

I have a related question. My second cousin and I share a longest
segment of 106.5 cM's. His maternal grandmother and my paternal
grandmother were sisters, but this is not X-DNA. (The total number of
our shared cM's is 310.6)

If I understand correctly, there were six chances of recombination
between the great-grandparent generation and our generation. (If my
understanding is incorrect, I would very much appreciate it if someone
would enlighten me.)

I have two questions, given my lack of expertise:

What is the statistical likelihood of a run of 106cM's remaining
intact in 6 chances of recombination? It seems to me that it would be
rather low.

Are some strands of DNA less subject to recombination than others?

Thanks very much to whoever might have an answer to these questions.

Marilyn G. Gelber, Ph.D.


DNA Research #DNA very long matching segment #dna

Marilyn Gelber
 

Marilyn Gelber <marilyn.gelber@gmail.com>

I have a related question. My second cousin and I share a longest
segment of 106.5 cM's. His maternal grandmother and my paternal
grandmother were sisters, but this is not X-DNA. (The total number of
our shared cM's is 310.6)

If I understand correctly, there were six chances of recombination
between the great-grandparent generation and our generation. (If my
understanding is incorrect, I would very much appreciate it if someone
would enlighten me.)

I have two questions, given my lack of expertise:

What is the statistical likelihood of a run of 106cM's remaining
intact in 6 chances of recombination? It seems to me that it would be
rather low.

Are some strands of DNA less subject to recombination than others?

Thanks very much to whoever might have an answer to these questions.

Marilyn G. Gelber, Ph.D.


ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Sue Frank
 

I've posted the birth record of my grandmother in Russian for which I
need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72759
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Sue Frank


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Sue Frank
 

I've posted the birth record of my grandmother in Russian for which I
need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72759
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Sue Frank


Thanks Re: Immigrant bank records? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Thanks to all who have replied.  I've already been able to prove that
one of the records I'd saved was *not* for the right person, but two
other ones *were* - these links proved particularly helpful:

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm
(Is there one for the Rosenbaum bank too? I can't find it!) And Moishe
Miller's explanation of how to use the Temple University site was
particularly helpful.

Martha Forsyth
Newton, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks Re: Immigrant bank records? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Thanks to all who have replied.  I've already been able to prove that
one of the records I'd saved was *not* for the right person, but two
other ones *were* - these links proved particularly helpful:

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm
(Is there one for the Rosenbaum bank too? I can't find it!) And Moishe
Miller's explanation of how to use the Temple University site was
particularly helpful.

Martha Forsyth
Newton, MA


British Passport Applications Warsaw 1934 and Jewish Women Liberated from Bergen Belsen #poland

Rose Feldman
 

In the latest release of databases by the Israel Genealogy Research
Association, there is a file of 131 names that requested British Passports
in Warsaw in 1934, and over 4,000 names of Jewish women liberated >from
Bergen Belsen. These lists may interest some of you.

Here is the presentation of all the new material we released.

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/new-igra-releases-march-2019?fbclid=IwAR=
3l3wSwq90bbii-_Dwc1glGicCfvBXy5KD0Vyb6NYr-Uq9Xc0GScuGBGJo

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish
and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


JRI Poland #Poland British Passport Applications Warsaw 1934 and Jewish Women Liberated from Bergen Belsen #poland

Rose Feldman
 

In the latest release of databases by the Israel Genealogy Research
Association, there is a file of 131 names that requested British Passports
in Warsaw in 1934, and over 4,000 names of Jewish women liberated >from
Bergen Belsen. These lists may interest some of you.

Here is the presentation of all the new material we released.

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/new-igra-releases-march-2019?fbclid=IwAR=
3l3wSwq90bbii-_Dwc1glGicCfvBXy5KD0Vyb6NYr-Uq9Xc0GScuGBGJo

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish
and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


Re: Acronym Puzzle: N I S F #general

Glenda Rubin
 

Madeleine,

I found reference to an organization called Netherland Israelitisch
Sick Fund. Given that one of the ancestors had been born in Holland,
maybe they were members.

Hope this helps a little.

Glenda [Rubin]
SF Bay Area

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 6:09 PM Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com wrote:

I found this acronym, N.I.S.F., inscribed above the Peh"Nun on stones
of a husband and wife, buried in the USA. I cannot find a meaningful
expansion, although I'm assuming it must be a sort of "Rest in Peace."
The husband was Sephardic, and had been born in Holland; his wife in
England.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Acronym Puzzle: N I S F #general

Glenda Rubin
 

Madeleine,

I found reference to an organization called Netherland Israelitisch
Sick Fund. Given that one of the ancestors had been born in Holland,
maybe they were members.

Hope this helps a little.

Glenda [Rubin]
SF Bay Area

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 6:09 PM Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com wrote:

I found this acronym, N.I.S.F., inscribed above the Peh"Nun on stones
of a husband and wife, buried in the USA. I cannot find a meaningful
expansion, although I'm assuming it must be a sort of "Rest in Peace."
The husband was Sephardic, and had been born in Holland; his wife in
England.

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