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Re: Need to locate records from Czortkow/Chortkiv #galicia

Phyllis Kramer
 

Claudia Bullock is "seeking assistance in locating records which do not
seem to have been digitized... created prior to World War I, in
Czortkow, Austria...."

Not an easy task: it is exactly what we do in the Galicia courses...
understand the town first, then track where the records are. We begin
with our JewishGen community page to see the location of Chortkiv,
Ukraine 49 01 N 25 48 E. Note the KehilaLinks page
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/sl_czortkow.htm and that
a cemetery has been indexed on JOWBR! This page
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1037393
will also give you the history of Czortkow's governments and all the
town name aliases.

The first stop for record information is RTRfoundation.org, which lists
all the records in the archives. This will enable you to understand if the
records you seek even exist. RTR lists these birth and marriage vital
records (plus many other types of records):
For birth, AGAD has 1874-1898, 1900-1906, 1921, 1926, 1934-1935,
and the USC has 1906-1935.
For marriage, AGAD has 1878-1911, 1912-1932, 1933-1938; the
Warsaw USC has 1912-1939, and the LVIV archives have 1874-1876,
1888, 1925.
In addition, the LDS has deaths 1874-1876 and 1888, a 1925 marriage
index, and 1925 marriages. When I checked the LDS catalog
(familysearch.org) I found the records were digitized: 2405439, Item 3,
7811145 and available online but according to the JRI-Poland AGAD
Eastern Galician town inventory, this microfilm holds additional births
1912-35, marriages 1912-1942, and deaths 1908-1942.

JRI-Poland's town page for Czortkow lists these records indexed online:
births 1874-1901, deaths 1884-1898. You can see the details here:
https://jri-poland.org/town/czortkow.htm. When I used the JRI-Poland
search (within 10 miles of Czortkow at 4901/2548) for Gottlieb I found 46
records on JRI-Poland from
Czortkow PSA AGAD Marriages 1878,79,82-1911,23,27,30-34 Deaths 1898-1907
Czortkow PSA AGAD Births 1901-11 Births 1874-1901, Deaths 1884-98
so it appears there are more records indexed then on the town list.

At Gesher Galicia: the search at https://search.geshergalicia.org/
turns up 4 records within 10 miles for Gottlieb and also, the
Galitizianer Newsletter of Sept 2017 has many references to Czortkow
records.

All of these indexes and records online are a subset of what is in the
various archives. To find other vital records, you may need to review
the RTR listings, the LDS microfilms and/or find a local Ukraine
researcher to review the USC or LVIV archives. Many of my students in
the Galicia courses (www.jewishgen.org/education) have located which
archives have records which they seek. We are all hoping there will be
more online indexes and records every year..

Hope this helps.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens Florida
VP, Education, jewishgen.org
Description of the Galicia I course:
https://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=40144
Cemetery Contact Vienna #galicia

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,

Sigmunt WOLFSTHAL, a musician, is listed in the Lwow Address Book of
1897. He married Ida MESSUTA (born Tarnopol 1880). A Sigmunt
WOLFSTHAL is buried in Vienna (1923) in Vienna.

The cemetery details I have >from JewishGen are
(1) Name: Wiener Zentralfriedhof Cemetery
(2) Address: XI. Simmeringer Hauptstrasse 244

Can you please advice on a contact person overseeing the cemetery, so
I can inquire about details that may exist on the tombstone and/or
more family details (and verify family link)?

(Any other relevant information on Sigmunt, if that names rings a bell,
would be greatly appreciated.)

Thankfully,

Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Need to locate records from Czortkow/Chortkiv #galicia

Phyllis Kramer
 

Claudia Bullock is "seeking assistance in locating records which do not
seem to have been digitized... created prior to World War I, in
Czortkow, Austria...."

Not an easy task: it is exactly what we do in the Galicia courses...
understand the town first, then track where the records are. We begin
with our JewishGen community page to see the location of Chortkiv,
Ukraine 49 01 N 25 48 E. Note the KehilaLinks page
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/sl_czortkow.htm and that
a cemetery has been indexed on JOWBR! This page
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1037393
will also give you the history of Czortkow's governments and all the
town name aliases.

The first stop for record information is RTRfoundation.org, which lists
all the records in the archives. This will enable you to understand if the
records you seek even exist. RTR lists these birth and marriage vital
records (plus many other types of records):
For birth, AGAD has 1874-1898, 1900-1906, 1921, 1926, 1934-1935,
and the USC has 1906-1935.
For marriage, AGAD has 1878-1911, 1912-1932, 1933-1938; the
Warsaw USC has 1912-1939, and the LVIV archives have 1874-1876,
1888, 1925.
In addition, the LDS has deaths 1874-1876 and 1888, a 1925 marriage
index, and 1925 marriages. When I checked the LDS catalog
(familysearch.org) I found the records were digitized: 2405439, Item 3,
7811145 and available online but according to the JRI-Poland AGAD
Eastern Galician town inventory, this microfilm holds additional births
1912-35, marriages 1912-1942, and deaths 1908-1942.

JRI-Poland's town page for Czortkow lists these records indexed online:
births 1874-1901, deaths 1884-1898. You can see the details here:
https://jri-poland.org/town/czortkow.htm. When I used the JRI-Poland
search (within 10 miles of Czortkow at 4901/2548) for Gottlieb I found 46
records on JRI-Poland from
Czortkow PSA AGAD Marriages 1878,79,82-1911,23,27,30-34 Deaths 1898-1907
Czortkow PSA AGAD Births 1901-11 Births 1874-1901, Deaths 1884-98
so it appears there are more records indexed then on the town list.

At Gesher Galicia: the search at https://search.geshergalicia.org/
turns up 4 records within 10 miles for Gottlieb and also, the
Galitizianer Newsletter of Sept 2017 has many references to Czortkow
records.

All of these indexes and records online are a subset of what is in the
various archives. To find other vital records, you may need to review
the RTR listings, the LDS microfilms and/or find a local Ukraine
researcher to review the USC or LVIV archives. Many of my students in
the Galicia courses (www.jewishgen.org/education) have located which
archives have records which they seek. We are all hoping there will be
more online indexes and records every year..

Hope this helps.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens Florida
VP, Education, jewishgen.org
Description of the Galicia I course:
https://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=40144
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Cemetery Contact Vienna #galicia

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,

Sigmunt WOLFSTHAL, a musician, is listed in the Lwow Address Book of
1897. He married Ida MESSUTA (born Tarnopol 1880). A Sigmunt
WOLFSTHAL is buried in Vienna (1923) in Vienna.

The cemetery details I have >from JewishGen are
(1) Name: Wiener Zentralfriedhof Cemetery
(2) Address: XI. Simmeringer Hauptstrasse 244

Can you please advice on a contact person overseeing the cemetery, so
I can inquire about details that may exist on the tombstone and/or
more family details (and verify family link)?

(Any other relevant information on Sigmunt, if that names rings a bell,
would be greatly appreciated.)

Thankfully,

Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel
(US) National Archives Civil War Research Guide #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

I am resending this post as evidently the period at the end of the link for
the National Archives ended up with a page not found. It worked fine when I
submitted the posting but somehow when it was sent out on the digest some
readers had problems and contacted me. I removed the period so it should
work fine now,
Sorry for the inconvenience

Jan Meisels Allen

____
For those researching their ancestors in the Civil War this may be of
interest. The (US) National Archives has a Civil War research guide
available at:

https://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources

It covers both Union and Confederate records, where and how to find the
records, pension records and more. Pension records are very interesting as
they provide information on what the soldier did during the war.

A new feature is that Civil War paper pension records can now be ordered
online: https://tinyurl.com/2slr6f

Original url:
https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/start.swe?SWECmd=Start&SWEHo=eser
vices.archives.gov

Jews and the Civil War

It is estimated that 10,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the Civil War: about
7,000 for the Union and 3,000 for the Confederacy, with some 600 Jewish
soldiers killed in battle.
(Donald Altschiller, "Jews," Encyclopedia of the American Civil War: A
Political, Social, and Military History, eds. David Stephen Heidler, Jeanne
T. Heidler, and David J. Coles (2000). W. W. Norton, p. 1070-1071.)

There were nine Jewish generals and 21 Jewish colonels participating in the
war.

Judah Benjamin served as the second Confederate States Secretary of War and
Secretary of State. Before the Civil War, Benjamin was the first Jewish
Cabinet member in a North American government.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
Early American SIG #USA (US) National Archives Civil War Research Guide #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

I am resending this post as evidently the period at the end of the link for
the National Archives ended up with a page not found. It worked fine when I
submitted the posting but somehow when it was sent out on the digest some
readers had problems and contacted me. I removed the period so it should
work fine now,
Sorry for the inconvenience

Jan Meisels Allen

____
For those researching their ancestors in the Civil War this may be of
interest. The (US) National Archives has a Civil War research guide
available at:

https://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources

It covers both Union and Confederate records, where and how to find the
records, pension records and more. Pension records are very interesting as
they provide information on what the soldier did during the war.

A new feature is that Civil War paper pension records can now be ordered
online: https://tinyurl.com/2slr6f

Original url:
https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/start.swe?SWECmd=Start&SWEHo=eser
vices.archives.gov

Jews and the Civil War

It is estimated that 10,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the Civil War: about
7,000 for the Union and 3,000 for the Confederacy, with some 600 Jewish
soldiers killed in battle.
(Donald Altschiller, "Jews," Encyclopedia of the American Civil War: A
Political, Social, and Military History, eds. David Stephen Heidler, Jeanne
T. Heidler, and David J. Coles (2000). W. W. Norton, p. 1070-1071.)

There were nine Jewish generals and 21 Jewish colonels participating in the
war.

Judah Benjamin served as the second Confederate States Secretary of War and
Secretary of State. Before the Civil War, Benjamin was the first Jewish
Cabinet member in a North American government.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
Re: www.landesarchiv-bw.de help #germany

Andreas Schwab
 

Here is the link to the Jewish records in Baden-Wuerttemberg:
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=5632
However, sometimes Jews are registered in Christian books.

For the former Baden region, the BMD records are here:
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=12390
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=10028

Further details are in this GerSIG page:
https://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/TPL_Base.asp?id=14

Andreas Schwab,Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.j.schwab@...>
German SIG #Germany Re: www.landesarchiv-bw.de help #germany

Andreas Schwab
 

Here is the link to the Jewish records in Baden-Wuerttemberg:
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=5632
However, sometimes Jews are registered in Christian books.

For the former Baden region, the BMD records are here:
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=12390
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=10028

Further details are in this GerSIG page:
https://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/TPL_Base.asp?id=14

Andreas Schwab,Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.j.schwab@...>
(US) National Archives Civil War Research Guide #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those researching their ancestors in the Civil War this may be of interest.
The (US) National Archives has a Civil War research guide available at:
https://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources. It covers
both Union and Confederate records, where and how to find the records,
pension records and more. Pension records are very interesting as they
provide information on what the soldier did during the war.

A new feature is that Civil War paper pension records can now be ordered
online: https://tinyurl.com/2slr6f
Original url:
https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/start.swe?SWECmd=Start&SWEHo=eservices.archives.gov

Jews and the Civil War

It is estimated that 10,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the Civil War: about
7,000 for the Union and 3,000 for the Confederacy, with some 600 Jewish
soldiers killed in battle.
(Donald Altschiller, "Jews," Encyclopedia of the American Civil War: A
Political, Social, and Military History, eds. David Stephen Heidler, Jeanne
T. Heidler, and David J. Coles (2000). W. W. Norton, p. 1070-1071.)

There were nine Jewish generals and 21 Jewish colonels participating in the war.

Judah Benjamin served as the second Confederate States Secretary of War and
Secretary of State. Before the Civil War, Benjamin was the first Jewish
Cabinet member in a North American government.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) National Archives Civil War Research Guide #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those researching their ancestors in the Civil War this may be of interest.
The (US) National Archives has a Civil War research guide available at:
https://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources. It covers
both Union and Confederate records, where and how to find the records,
pension records and more. Pension records are very interesting as they
provide information on what the soldier did during the war.

A new feature is that Civil War paper pension records can now be ordered
online: https://tinyurl.com/2slr6f
Original url:
https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/start.swe?SWECmd=Start&SWEHo=eservices.archives.gov

Jews and the Civil War

It is estimated that 10,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the Civil War: about
7,000 for the Union and 3,000 for the Confederacy, with some 600 Jewish
soldiers killed in battle.
(Donald Altschiller, "Jews," Encyclopedia of the American Civil War: A
Political, Social, and Military History, eds. David Stephen Heidler, Jeanne
T. Heidler, and David J. Coles (2000). W. W. Norton, p. 1070-1071.)

There were nine Jewish generals and 21 Jewish colonels participating in the war.

Judah Benjamin served as the second Confederate States Secretary of War and
Secretary of State. Before the Civil War, Benjamin was the first Jewish
Cabinet member in a North American government.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
Trying to contact Weber descendants in Israel of the Belz Dynasty #general

Neil@...
 

The Oldest son of the first Belzer Rebbe, Shalom Rokeach was Rav
Eleazar Rokeah and he had a daughter, Cywia, who married Solomon
(Shlomo) Judah Weber. Most of the Weber family perished but a son of
Cywia was the father of Malka Salpeter of Petach Tikva who posted
Pages of Testimony for the family in 1956 as did Chaim Weber, son of
Yakov Yitzchak, son of Cywia, who lived in Netanya and also posted
Pages of Testimony in 1956.
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to contact Weber descendants in Israel of the Belz Dynasty #general

Neil@...
 

The Oldest son of the first Belzer Rebbe, Shalom Rokeach was Rav
Eleazar Rokeah and he had a daughter, Cywia, who married Solomon
(Shlomo) Judah Weber. Most of the Weber family perished but a son of
Cywia was the father of Malka Salpeter of Petach Tikva who posted
Pages of Testimony for the family in 1956 as did Chaim Weber, son of
Yakov Yitzchak, son of Cywia, who lived in Netanya and also posted
Pages of Testimony in 1956.
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only
Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #lithuania

Joel Alpert
 

Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please contact Phil
Shapiro at philshapiro608@....

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #lithuania

Joel Alpert
 

Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please contact Phil
Shapiro at philshapiro608@....

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project
Re: Translation of two stones from Hebrew? #general

Michael Gordy
 

Thank you to the several people who responded so helpfully. I have my answer!

Michael Gordy <michael.gordy@...> wrote:

I would be grateful for help in translating >from Hebrew two stones
(husband and wife). The stones are in Boskovice, Czechia, and about
120 years old.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Translation of two stones from Hebrew? #general

Michael Gordy
 

Thank you to the several people who responded so helpfully. I have my answer!

Michael Gordy <michael.gordy@...> wrote:

I would be grateful for help in translating >from Hebrew two stones
(husband and wife). The stones are in Boskovice, Czechia, and about
120 years old.
Ehrenberg in Bat Yam #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Yitzchak Ehrenberg who lives
in Bat Yam in 1999 on #2 Rechov HaAdmor miBobov. He had posted a Page
of Testimony for his wife Rikel who perished. She was a daughter of
Naftali Nattel of Sanz who descended >from the Horowitz family of Dukla
and Cracow

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ehrenberg in Bat Yam #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Yitzchak Ehrenberg who lives
in Bat Yam in 1999 on #2 Rechov HaAdmor miBobov. He had posted a Page
of Testimony for his wife Rikel who perished. She was a daughter of
Naftali Nattel of Sanz who descended >from the Horowitz family of Dukla
and Cracow

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please
Descendants of Rabbi DAVID of Novarodok-GOLNICK family #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

Several years ago while researching my possible relationship to a
Rabbi DAVID of Nvarodok, who was the Rav of the community during the
19th cent. and wrote amongst other "Galia Masechet", I was contacted
by an Arthur GOLNICK who was compiling a family tree of the above Rabbi.

I understand that he no longer is active in this matter and I would be
happy to be in contact with other of his family who are dealing with the tree.

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Descendants of Rabbi DAVID of Novarodok-GOLNICK family #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

Several years ago while researching my possible relationship to a
Rabbi DAVID of Nvarodok, who was the Rav of the community during the
19th cent. and wrote amongst other "Galia Masechet", I was contacted
by an Arthur GOLNICK who was compiling a family tree of the above Rabbi.

I understand that he no longer is active in this matter and I would be
happy to be in contact with other of his family who are dealing with the tree.

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
47341 - 47360 of 678482