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ZINGER/SINGER Family from Turka
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Claudia Kugelmass
I'm helping to look for information on the ZINGER/SINGER family >from Turka, Poland.
Samuel ZINGER/SINGER, born 1918, was the son of Shia and Sheindel (family name unknown). As far as we know he had no siblings. Sam had a wife and child before WWII. Sam came to Canada in 1948 with his second wife Estera BRANDELSTEIN and their daughter. Thanks in advance for any information. Claudia Kugelmass Always researching KUGELMASS, SIMAK, CYTROMAN, BRAWER,, MILLER Sometimes researching SHUGARMAN/SUGARMAN >from Baltimore
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZINGER/SINGER Family from Turka
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Claudia Kugelmass
I'm helping to look for information on the ZINGER/SINGER family >from Turka, Poland.
Samuel ZINGER/SINGER, born 1918, was the son of Shia and Sheindel (family name unknown). As far as we know he had no siblings. Sam had a wife and child before WWII. Sam came to Canada in 1948 with his second wife Estera BRANDELSTEIN and their daughter. Thanks in advance for any information. Claudia Kugelmass Always researching KUGELMASS, SIMAK, CYTROMAN, BRAWER,, MILLER Sometimes researching SHUGARMAN/SUGARMAN >from Baltimore
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Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
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sjhoi@...
Genealogy Activities You Can Do with Your Kids and Grandkids
"Genealogy Activities You Can Do with Your Kids and Grandkids" is the topic of the August 7 meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland featuring Sunny Morton, internationally-known and award -winning writer, editor and speaker. Ms. Morton, who is a Contributing Editor at Family Tree Magazine and Editor of the Ohio Genealogy News, most recently spoke at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies 2019 Conference held in Cleveland >from July 28 through August 2. In her presentation she will share experiences that have inspired her own kids' interest in history and their family's place in it. These include activities that teach younger generations the value of their own stories and hands-on experiences that fire up historical imaginations. The Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland meets on the first Wednesday of the month starting at 7:30 P.M. in the Miller Board Room at Menorah Park, 27100 Cedar Rd., Beachwood. Board members are available at a Help Desk to assist with individual research questions from 7:00 P.M. Guests are welcome and can RSVP atProgramming@Clevelandjgs.org. Stewart Hoicowitz Vice President-Programming
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
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sjhoi@...
Genealogy Activities You Can Do with Your Kids and Grandkids
"Genealogy Activities You Can Do with Your Kids and Grandkids" is the topic of the August 7 meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland featuring Sunny Morton, internationally-known and award -winning writer, editor and speaker. Ms. Morton, who is a Contributing Editor at Family Tree Magazine and Editor of the Ohio Genealogy News, most recently spoke at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies 2019 Conference held in Cleveland >from July 28 through August 2. In her presentation she will share experiences that have inspired her own kids' interest in history and their family's place in it. These include activities that teach younger generations the value of their own stories and hands-on experiences that fire up historical imaginations. The Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland meets on the first Wednesday of the month starting at 7:30 P.M. in the Miller Board Room at Menorah Park, 27100 Cedar Rd., Beachwood. Board members are available at a Help Desk to assist with individual research questions from 7:00 P.M. Guests are welcome and can RSVP atProgramming@Clevelandjgs.org. Stewart Hoicowitz Vice President-Programming
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
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Bruce Drake
During the entire time I was in Treblinka, my thoughts moved in only
one direction: not to die in such a horrible way,writes Dudek Lewkowicz. His story. "What I Saw in Treblinka," >from the Yizkor book of Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland, is a catalog of cruelty and horrors starting with the deportation of Jews >from the from the Piotrkow ghetto to the arrival at the death camp and sorting of theprisoners,and finally the tortures suffered within it, added to by an outbreak of typhus. Many thought of trying to escape but few had the courage to try. "We would be running >from one danger to another. Where could a Jew go then, and who would have permitted him to enter, especially in that region where poor Ukrainians lived." But Dudek planned carefully and, with a friend, made his escape in 1944. The dangers facing him were not over, but he lived to tell this story. URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2411458482209626?__tn__=3DK-R Bruce Drake Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
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Bruce Drake
During the entire time I was in Treblinka, my thoughts moved in only
one direction: not to die in such a horrible way,writes Dudek Lewkowicz. His story. "What I Saw in Treblinka," >from the Yizkor book of Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland, is a catalog of cruelty and horrors starting with the deportation of Jews >from the from the Piotrkow ghetto to the arrival at the death camp and sorting of theprisoners,and finally the tortures suffered within it, added to by an outbreak of typhus. Many thought of trying to escape but few had the courage to try. "We would be running >from one danger to another. Where could a Jew go then, and who would have permitted him to enter, especially in that region where poor Ukrainians lived." But Dudek planned carefully and, with a friend, made his escape in 1944. The dangers facing him were not over, but he lived to tell this story. URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2411458482209626?__tn__=3DK-R Bruce Drake Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel
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Minna LEMKE wife JACOBOWITZ
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Lemberski Evelyne
I am looking for the address and the place of death of Minna LEMKE
(my maternal rear great grandmother) wife JACOBOWITZ born on May 20,1857 in Windnau (Russia) and died on July 16,1936 either in Paris or Paris region. Evelyne LEMBERSKI evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr Saint Maurice France
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French SIG #France Minna LEMKE wife JACOBOWITZ
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Lemberski Evelyne
I am looking for the address and the place of death of Minna LEMKE
(my maternal rear great grandmother) wife JACOBOWITZ born on May 20,1857 in Windnau (Russia) and died on July 16,1936 either in Paris or Paris region. Evelyne LEMBERSKI evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr Saint Maurice France
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Book: Hachshara and Youth Aliyah Sweden 1933-1948 - rescuing youth from Germany via Sweden
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Judith Diamond
The book 'Pa vag till Israel' was written by my uncle Emil Glu(e)ck who was the
prime mover of the Hachshara in Sweden, and documented the assisted migration of Jewish youth >from Nazi Germany, the planning and organization of their agricultural training, Jewish education and continued migration to Palestine. It also described the work to rehabilitate and reintegrate young Jewish survivors >from the Polish and German concentration camps in the aftermath of the war. Emil was able in later years to meet again some of the chalutzim and gives in the book a short biography of a few of them. The English translation 'Hachshara and Youth Aliyah in Sweden 1933-1948' has a full index of all names mentioned. It was translated, edited and produced in In 2016 by a number of Emil's family, for the benefit of the family, but we feel that the story, told by those who were intimately involved, should have a wider audience. It is now available at cost on-line >from a print-on-demand company or elsewhere. This is a one-off announcement of this publication - printed as a not-for-profit book Judith Diamond, London, UK Researching EPEL, GLUCK >from Leckava,Lithuania and WAINER >from Lithuania GEDVICER >from Latvia FINKLESTEIN >from Kaunas and St Petersburg LECHNER and RATH >from Kolomyya and Cernauti/Czernowitz, and HOROWITZ and HOLZER >from Krakow.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Book: Hachshara and Youth Aliyah Sweden 1933-1948 - rescuing youth from Germany via Sweden
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Judith Diamond
The book 'Pa vag till Israel' was written by my uncle Emil Glu(e)ck who was the
prime mover of the Hachshara in Sweden, and documented the assisted migration of Jewish youth >from Nazi Germany, the planning and organization of their agricultural training, Jewish education and continued migration to Palestine. It also described the work to rehabilitate and reintegrate young Jewish survivors >from the Polish and German concentration camps in the aftermath of the war. Emil was able in later years to meet again some of the chalutzim and gives in the book a short biography of a few of them. The English translation 'Hachshara and Youth Aliyah in Sweden 1933-1948' has a full index of all names mentioned. It was translated, edited and produced in In 2016 by a number of Emil's family, for the benefit of the family, but we feel that the story, told by those who were intimately involved, should have a wider audience. It is now available at cost on-line >from a print-on-demand company or elsewhere. This is a one-off announcement of this publication - printed as a not-for-profit book Judith Diamond, London, UK Researching EPEL, GLUCK >from Leckava,Lithuania and WAINER >from Lithuania GEDVICER >from Latvia FINKLESTEIN >from Kaunas and St Petersburg LECHNER and RATH >from Kolomyya and Cernauti/Czernowitz, and HOROWITZ and HOLZER >from Krakow.
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Re: Ashkenazi Naming Conventions - Double Names
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Judith Singer
Hi - there is a JewishGen InfoFile at https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/
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GivenNames/ which contains a good introduction to Ashkenazi naming conventions. Slide 7, Naming Traditions, will probably be particularly helpful to you. With respect to your specific question, and bearing in mind that we are discussing traditions and not hard and fast religious rules, a son would be named after his two grandfathers only if he was the first son born after both grandfathers had died. If only one grandfather had died at the time a son was born, the son would likely receive that grandfather's name, but almost never the name of a living grandfather. The second name would most likely be a great-grandfather or a deceased uncle. There were also other sources of names, as slides 9 and 10 describe. Judith Singer searching CHARNY / ZARNOW / CHERNOFF, SORTAN /SORTMAN, and PALETS, all in Lithuania Simon Zelman <zelman.simon@gmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had any information about naming conventions
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ashkenazi Naming Conventions - Double Names
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Judith Singer
Hi - there is a JewishGen InfoFile at https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/
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GivenNames/ which contains a good introduction to Ashkenazi naming conventions. Slide 7, Naming Traditions, will probably be particularly helpful to you. With respect to your specific question, and bearing in mind that we are discussing traditions and not hard and fast religious rules, a son would be named after his two grandfathers only if he was the first son born after both grandfathers had died. If only one grandfather had died at the time a son was born, the son would likely receive that grandfather's name, but almost never the name of a living grandfather. The second name would most likely be a great-grandfather or a deceased uncle. There were also other sources of names, as slides 9 and 10 describe. Judith Singer searching CHARNY / ZARNOW / CHERNOFF, SORTAN /SORTMAN, and PALETS, all in Lithuania Simon Zelman <zelman.simon@gmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had any information about naming conventions
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Re: Trial
Dick Plotz
Thanks, Sam. This is helpful. Is there a setting that makes that box checked as the default option? Then we wouldn't have to rely on the attention and cooperation of hundreds of participants to give context. Of course, sometimes we'd get too much context, which is one of the reasons moderators need to be able to edit out any excess. But since we almost always need that context in replies, and there's too much context only some of the time, it makes sense to have the box checked by default. I'm still far from convinced that it would be a good idea to allow access to the web interface at all. Online forums, which this would be, are usually unmoderated and most of the time (at least when the participants aren't a small group who already know each other) degenerate into flame wars. Online forums constitute a communications channel with distinct parameters* that are different from the parameters of e-mail lists, and it's probably not a good idea to try to shoehorn one communications channel into both forms. We had that option from the start of Lyris, and rejected it with good reason. The result is likely to be something that performs suboptimally in both. Is there a setting that sends replies to posts within a digest by e-mail rather than in the online forum? Dick * That's "parameters", not "perimeters".
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 9:01 PM Sam Eneman <sam.eneman@...> wrote: Friends,
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Re: town in poland
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Phyllis Kramer
Bev Rayburn asked: Any ideas what the town name in Poland would be for
this phonetic spelling: Rafalowee Bev: Yours is not an easy search...so if you have additional information it would help. i couldnt find any town on the community pages (which are 6500 towns in eastern europe which had Jewish residents and institutions) so i looked on the gazetteer which covers all the towns...these are three possiblities: Rafalow 76.1 miles SSE of Warszawa ..5112/2153 near ciepielow and lipsko Rafalow 129.0 miles WSW of Warszawa 5136/1809...near grabow Rafalow 77.4 miles WSW of Warszawa ...5156/1915 near Parzeczew and zgierze there's also a Rafalov in Belarus today.5145/3010.. the area was Russian-poland in the past, Minsk Gubernya There's also a Rafalivka, Ukraine which was in Poland between the world wars. 5122/2552. this town had a Jewish population and there is a communities page for it ...but the jews called it Rafalefke [Yid]...so its less likely In the JewishGen Poland Database, i queried towns "starting" with rafalo and found 4 records registered in Rafalovka, Lutsk uezd province....also brest-litovsk...Also found two Kupers applying for emergency passports >from this town let me suggest that you go to JRI-Poland...on the search page there is a surname finder...put in your surnames and see where the groupings are...and if any match one of the four locales above. you might also search the surnames, using say 25 miles >from the coordinates of the three towns listed above. Keep in mind: 1- the year of your clue of Rafalowee...(that poland was not on the map >from 1770sthru 1918 when it was reconstructed by the allies)...2-that W and V were changeable over the years, depending on the language..3-that the town names in yiddish were often different >from the town names that the governments used.... 4-that F and B were sometimes confused during transliterations of the name >from one language to another...these clues might help focus your search. Happy Hunting Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens Director, Education, JewishGen.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: town in poland
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Phyllis Kramer
Bev Rayburn asked: Any ideas what the town name in Poland would be for
this phonetic spelling: Rafalowee Bev: Yours is not an easy search...so if you have additional information it would help. i couldnt find any town on the community pages (which are 6500 towns in eastern europe which had Jewish residents and institutions) so i looked on the gazetteer which covers all the towns...these are three possiblities: Rafalow 76.1 miles SSE of Warszawa ..5112/2153 near ciepielow and lipsko Rafalow 129.0 miles WSW of Warszawa 5136/1809...near grabow Rafalow 77.4 miles WSW of Warszawa ...5156/1915 near Parzeczew and zgierze there's also a Rafalov in Belarus today.5145/3010.. the area was Russian-poland in the past, Minsk Gubernya There's also a Rafalivka, Ukraine which was in Poland between the world wars. 5122/2552. this town had a Jewish population and there is a communities page for it ...but the jews called it Rafalefke [Yid]...so its less likely In the JewishGen Poland Database, i queried towns "starting" with rafalo and found 4 records registered in Rafalovka, Lutsk uezd province....also brest-litovsk...Also found two Kupers applying for emergency passports >from this town let me suggest that you go to JRI-Poland...on the search page there is a surname finder...put in your surnames and see where the groupings are...and if any match one of the four locales above. you might also search the surnames, using say 25 miles >from the coordinates of the three towns listed above. Keep in mind: 1- the year of your clue of Rafalowee...(that poland was not on the map >from 1770sthru 1918 when it was reconstructed by the allies)...2-that W and V were changeable over the years, depending on the language..3-that the town names in yiddish were often different >from the town names that the governments used.... 4-that F and B were sometimes confused during transliterations of the name >from one language to another...these clues might help focus your search. Happy Hunting Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens Director, Education, JewishGen.org
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Re: 20 Romanian cities -Survivors
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Monica Friedlander <monifriedlander@...>
Thank you kindly. But I’m flabbergasted that Bucharest is not on the list.
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It wasn’t an extermination camp, but thousands of young men like my father were beaten half-to-death in a forced labor camp. Many died. Monica Friedlander
On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Robert Michael Hammer hammeroptometrist@gmail.com <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
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Romania SIG #Romania Re: 20 Romanian cities -Survivors
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Monica Friedlander <monifriedlander@...>
Thank you kindly. But I’m flabbergasted that Bucharest is not on the list.
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It wasn’t an extermination camp, but thousands of young men like my father were beaten half-to-death in a forced labor camp. Many died. Monica Friedlander
On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Robert Michael Hammer hammeroptometrist@gmail.com <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
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Re: Trial
Sally Bruckheimer
"I agree with you". This posting is the perfect reason that we need context. Obviously he agrees with what I said, since I read it. But I have said several things, and he may not agree with everything I have said. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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Re: Trial
Sam Eneman
Friends,
I'm getting the daily digest and responding to messages via the Web interface (must be logged into Groups.io to Reply it seems). You can quote the message being replied to by clicking the "Comments" icon in the upper left corner of the message composer: All the questions we've raised seem to point to the need for a lot of Help files re: the new interface and usability, or at least a set of tips for new users. Sam Eneman ViewMate and JewishGen-erosity Wall of Honor Admins
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Akivah Stern
sylvia.vanderhoeft@...
Can anyone help, we are looking for Akivah Stern born around 1805 in Nowy Sacz, Poland ( at the time part of Galicia) ?
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