Date   

Danzig/Gdansk #poland

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Tom Erribe asks:

<< Can someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be
located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc. >>

When you say "located with", what do you mean? Are you referring to LDS
microfilms? Original records?

If the former, the catalog at familysearch.org will provide many
details. If the latter, the answer is (at least partially): in Gdansk!
The PRADZIAD database of the Polish State Archives shows that the Gdansk
archive has Jewish BMD records through 1927.

For Prussian Poland, civil vital records were kept by registry offices
from 1874 onward. In today's Poland, there's limited access for 100
years after the creation of the record, which is kept at the registry
office. After that, it's moved to the archives (usually in batches
every few years).

The records were almost certainly written in German. The population of
the Free City of Danzig (1920-1939) was overwhelmingly German-speaking,
incl. most of its Jewish community. So the city government of Gdansk
would be the place to turn.

And we can *definitely* rule out Ukrainian.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, mostly


JRI Poland #Poland Danzig/Gdansk #poland

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Tom Erribe asks:

<< Can someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be
located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc. >>

When you say "located with", what do you mean? Are you referring to LDS
microfilms? Original records?

If the former, the catalog at familysearch.org will provide many
details. If the latter, the answer is (at least partially): in Gdansk!
The PRADZIAD database of the Polish State Archives shows that the Gdansk
archive has Jewish BMD records through 1927.

For Prussian Poland, civil vital records were kept by registry offices
from 1874 onward. In today's Poland, there's limited access for 100
years after the creation of the record, which is kept at the registry
office. After that, it's moved to the archives (usually in batches
every few years).

The records were almost certainly written in German. The population of
the Free City of Danzig (1920-1939) was overwhelmingly German-speaking,
incl. most of its Jewish community. So the city government of Gdansk
would be the place to turn.

And we can *definitely* rule out Ukrainian.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, mostly


Regarding dobromil #poland

Larry Nussbaum <larry.nussbaum@...>
 

Does anyone have a direct contact to get information >from Dobromil
(now in the Ukraine) My great grandfather lived there and my
grandfather was born there and then moved to Przemsyl, Poland.
Family name is Nussbaum.

Thank you,

Larry Nussbaum
Kansas City, Mo
larry.nussbaum@...


JRI Poland #Poland Regarding dobromil #poland

Larry Nussbaum <larry.nussbaum@...>
 

Does anyone have a direct contact to get information >from Dobromil
(now in the Ukraine) My great grandfather lived there and my
grandfather was born there and then moved to Przemsyl, Poland.
Family name is Nussbaum.

Thank you,

Larry Nussbaum
Kansas City, Mo
larry.nussbaum@...


JGS Sacramento meeting March 20 #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogy Society of Sacramento

Sunday, March 20, 10 a.m.

Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright Street
Sacramento, CA

“Genealogical Records – Determining the Ones We Want, Where They Are and How to
Use Them”

Want to start researching your family tree but don’t know where to begin? Come to
the March meeting of the Sacramento Jewish Genealogy Society. Area genealogist Pam
Dallas will provide an overview of major and lesser-known genealogy records.
She’ll discuss the different types of records, the challenge of finding them and
ways to make them pay off in your research. This is a great meeting for beginners
as well as genealogy veterans, who are sure to learn something new as well.

Join us on Sunday, March 20, 10 a.m. Our growing genealogy library will be
available for your use before and after the meeting.

For more information about the Jewish Genealogy Society of Sacramento, visit our
Web site http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-sacramento/, e-mail the JGSS at
jgs_sacramento@... or leave a message at 916-486-0906 ext. 361.

Bob Wascou


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Sacramento meeting March 20 #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogy Society of Sacramento

Sunday, March 20, 10 a.m.

Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright Street
Sacramento, CA

“Genealogical Records – Determining the Ones We Want, Where They Are and How to
Use Them”

Want to start researching your family tree but don’t know where to begin? Come to
the March meeting of the Sacramento Jewish Genealogy Society. Area genealogist Pam
Dallas will provide an overview of major and lesser-known genealogy records.
She’ll discuss the different types of records, the challenge of finding them and
ways to make them pay off in your research. This is a great meeting for beginners
as well as genealogy veterans, who are sure to learn something new as well.

Join us on Sunday, March 20, 10 a.m. Our growing genealogy library will be
available for your use before and after the meeting.

For more information about the Jewish Genealogy Society of Sacramento, visit our
Web site http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-sacramento/, e-mail the JGSS at
jgs_sacramento@... or leave a message at 916-486-0906 ext. 361.

Bob Wascou


History of the jews in OCSA, CEGLED, ALBERTISA in Pest megye #hungary

Ilan Szekely <tcdb@...>
 

Hello H-Siggers

I am a silent watcher for along time. Now I have a question.

I found a document my father wrote about his family ancestors.
Seems that all of his family ancestors lived in Pest megye in the towns
of Cegled, Ocsa, Alberti-isa (now Albertisa)
and Duna KisVarsany. All locations are south east of Budapest.
Later the family moved to the town of Budapest.
My G-G-grandfather STEINER Zakarias was born in Ocsa ca. 1790.

My question is about the history of Jews in this area. Where can I find
information? The Internet search resulted in nothing.

Ilan Szekely
______________________________
E-mail: ilan.szekely@...
______________________________

Researching - STEINER, SZEKELY, WEISZ, LAUFER, MARBERGER - all in
Hungary


Re: naming patterns #hungary

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I don't think we can make "pattern" assumptions for assimilated Jews,
especially in the United States. My mother's branch is >from Budapest and
Vienna. I bear her first name, Adele, as my middle name. My brother,
totally unfamiliar with Jewish custom, named his son Robert after himself.
There are also a number of Jacks on my father's side in the USA, generation
after generation. My own children's names are original in the family, not
named after anyone in particular. However, MY son with five children has
returned to the naming of his children after deceased relatives, and just to
confuse the issue further, his two youngest children, by his second wife,
both bear their mother's maiden name as a middle name ! And their
daughter's first name is original in the family, but his son is named after
my late husband. So go figure! I think we can assume naming patterns
probably held in the "old country" but not necessarily in the US, and not in
Israel where the Yiddish names seem to be "out" and new Hebrew names are
"in" (both first and last).
Since I was not given a Hebrew name at birth, I adopted one for myself -
Kinnereth.
Dorothy Adele Dellar Kohanski (aka "Kinnereth")
Laguna Woods, CA


* Trip to Hungary and visiting cemeteries #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

My experience has been very similar to that mentioned by Margarita. Even in=
Neolog (reform) cemeteries, the older tombstones, dating back to the=
18th/early 19th centuries, usually carry Hebrew engravings only.

Some tips which might be helpful, mainly for those not fluent in Hebrew:

1. If you know the Hebrew names of the people whose graves you plan to=
visit, carry their list written in Hebrew.

2. If you know the date of decease, carry both the common and Hebrew dates,=
the later written in Hebrew characters.

3. Carry a Hebrew transliteration of family names.

4. Learn the basics of Hebrew - reading the letters and understanding dates.=
A handy page for that purpose: <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/tombston=
es.html>. Carry a printed version with you.

The purpose of all the above is to "compare" what one sees on the tombstones=
and what one is looking for. This can be a time consuming process but it=
could result in hits.

5. In smaller cemeteries (say up to 100 graves) it is worthwhile to take=
digital photos of all graves. That allows examining them later with more=
time to find matches and identifications. Besides, a person with command of=
Hebrew could later examine those pictures.

6. Try to find the pinkas (register of deaths). Even in very small villages=
and abandoned cemeteries, sometimes the local central Jewish congregation/u=
nion/federation may have them or knows who stores them.

Good luck
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 15.03.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: RE: Trip to Hungary
From: "Margarita Lacko" <mishpologia@...>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:09:04 -0500

In Abaujszanto, my relatives (BLAU, LOW) were very religious and their
tombstones are all in Hebrew. I don't remember about the rest of the
tombstones.

In Gyongyos, although I didn't find my relatives (FISCHER, HEBER,
HANOFER/HANNOVER) some stones are in Hebrew but the names are in Latin
characters. Most of the stones were in Hungarian.
Margarita Lack=DB
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary History of the jews in OCSA, CEGLED, ALBERTISA in Pest megye #hungary

Ilan Szekely <tcdb@...>
 

Hello H-Siggers

I am a silent watcher for along time. Now I have a question.

I found a document my father wrote about his family ancestors.
Seems that all of his family ancestors lived in Pest megye in the towns
of Cegled, Ocsa, Alberti-isa (now Albertisa)
and Duna KisVarsany. All locations are south east of Budapest.
Later the family moved to the town of Budapest.
My G-G-grandfather STEINER Zakarias was born in Ocsa ca. 1790.

My question is about the history of Jews in this area. Where can I find
information? The Internet search resulted in nothing.

Ilan Szekely
______________________________
E-mail: ilan.szekely@...
______________________________

Researching - STEINER, SZEKELY, WEISZ, LAUFER, MARBERGER - all in
Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: naming patterns #hungary

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I don't think we can make "pattern" assumptions for assimilated Jews,
especially in the United States. My mother's branch is >from Budapest and
Vienna. I bear her first name, Adele, as my middle name. My brother,
totally unfamiliar with Jewish custom, named his son Robert after himself.
There are also a number of Jacks on my father's side in the USA, generation
after generation. My own children's names are original in the family, not
named after anyone in particular. However, MY son with five children has
returned to the naming of his children after deceased relatives, and just to
confuse the issue further, his two youngest children, by his second wife,
both bear their mother's maiden name as a middle name ! And their
daughter's first name is original in the family, but his son is named after
my late husband. So go figure! I think we can assume naming patterns
probably held in the "old country" but not necessarily in the US, and not in
Israel where the Yiddish names seem to be "out" and new Hebrew names are
"in" (both first and last).
Since I was not given a Hebrew name at birth, I adopted one for myself -
Kinnereth.
Dorothy Adele Dellar Kohanski (aka "Kinnereth")
Laguna Woods, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Trip to Hungary and visiting cemeteries #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

My experience has been very similar to that mentioned by Margarita. Even in=
Neolog (reform) cemeteries, the older tombstones, dating back to the=
18th/early 19th centuries, usually carry Hebrew engravings only.

Some tips which might be helpful, mainly for those not fluent in Hebrew:

1. If you know the Hebrew names of the people whose graves you plan to=
visit, carry their list written in Hebrew.

2. If you know the date of decease, carry both the common and Hebrew dates,=
the later written in Hebrew characters.

3. Carry a Hebrew transliteration of family names.

4. Learn the basics of Hebrew - reading the letters and understanding dates.=
A handy page for that purpose: <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/tombston=
es.html>. Carry a printed version with you.

The purpose of all the above is to "compare" what one sees on the tombstones=
and what one is looking for. This can be a time consuming process but it=
could result in hits.

5. In smaller cemeteries (say up to 100 graves) it is worthwhile to take=
digital photos of all graves. That allows examining them later with more=
time to find matches and identifications. Besides, a person with command of=
Hebrew could later examine those pictures.

6. Try to find the pinkas (register of deaths). Even in very small villages=
and abandoned cemeteries, sometimes the local central Jewish congregation/u=
nion/federation may have them or knows who stores them.

Good luck
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 15.03.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: RE: Trip to Hungary
From: "Margarita Lacko" <mishpologia@...>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:09:04 -0500

In Abaujszanto, my relatives (BLAU, LOW) were very religious and their
tombstones are all in Hebrew. I don't remember about the rest of the
tombstones.

In Gyongyos, although I didn't find my relatives (FISCHER, HEBER,
HANOFER/HANNOVER) some stones are in Hebrew but the names are in Latin
characters. Most of the stones were in Hungarian.
Margarita Lack=DB
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Translation from Hebrew #hungary

SteinerGabi <gavor@...>
 

The grom is Aharon Shlomo, son of Shabat
The bride is Fruma, daughter of Arin or Ario
The date is 03 of Adar a 5673, wich is Feb. 10 1913
Steiner Gabi
Ramat-Gan, Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fern Ward" <FRWard@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: [h-sig] Translation >from Hebrew


I have posted a Wedding certificae on Viewmate. (VM5650 Translation-Hebrew)
If anyone can please advise me who it was for and the date of the
marriage,
I would really appreciate it!
Thanks
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5650
Please respond directly to
FRWard@...
Thank you

Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ

Moderator: Please respond off-list.


Detailed interactive Slovakia map site #hungary

Judith Deutsch Bennett <benne034@...>
 

A friend sent me this site for very detailed maps of Slovakia

There is also a website where you can get interactive maps and zoom in to
get streets or whole cities.
It is at :

<http://www.supernavigator.sk/navigator>www.supernavigator.sk/navigator


NOTE: If there is anyone who wrote to me and I did not respond to I
apologize. My e-mail program crashed and a lot of messages were lost.

Judy Deutsch Bennett

DEUTSCH, FEINER, GANS,PICK: Trencsen

ROSENBLUM, GROSZMAN<GROSMAN, GALE, HOPKOVITZ, ALTMAN: Zemplen, Saris


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Translation from Hebrew #hungary

SteinerGabi <gavor@...>
 

The grom is Aharon Shlomo, son of Shabat
The bride is Fruma, daughter of Arin or Ario
The date is 03 of Adar a 5673, wich is Feb. 10 1913
Steiner Gabi
Ramat-Gan, Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fern Ward" <FRWard@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: [h-sig] Translation >from Hebrew


I have posted a Wedding certificae on Viewmate. (VM5650 Translation-Hebrew)
If anyone can please advise me who it was for and the date of the
marriage,
I would really appreciate it!
Thanks
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5650
Please respond directly to
FRWard@...
Thank you

Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ

Moderator: Please respond off-list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Detailed interactive Slovakia map site #hungary

Judith Deutsch Bennett <benne034@...>
 

A friend sent me this site for very detailed maps of Slovakia

There is also a website where you can get interactive maps and zoom in to
get streets or whole cities.
It is at :

<http://www.supernavigator.sk/navigator>www.supernavigator.sk/navigator


NOTE: If there is anyone who wrote to me and I did not respond to I
apologize. My e-mail program crashed and a lot of messages were lost.

Judy Deutsch Bennett

DEUTSCH, FEINER, GANS,PICK: Trencsen

ROSENBLUM, GROSZMAN<GROSMAN, GALE, HOPKOVITZ, ALTMAN: Zemplen, Saris


Looking for Volunteers #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

We have received permission to transcribe Jewish births, marriages and
deaths >from the Szerencs district registers (Zemplen megye), FHL
microfilm # 642948. I anticipate receiving electronic images shortly.
I have one volunteer to work on transcribing these records, but he would
welcome others to help with the transcription work. Because the images
are electronic, this transcription work can be done at home.

I also have received photographs of the Holocaust Memorial in the
Jewish cemetery of Mezocsat, Borsod megye, Hungary. This memorial could
be transcribed directly >from the photos or I can provide electronic images.

If you would be willing to help transcribe the vital records >from the
Szerencs district registers or transcribe the names on the Mezocsat
Holocaust Memorial, please contact me directly at caroljr@....

Carol Robinson
H-SIG Research Coordinator
caroljr@...
Alameda, CA USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Volunteers #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

We have received permission to transcribe Jewish births, marriages and
deaths >from the Szerencs district registers (Zemplen megye), FHL
microfilm # 642948. I anticipate receiving electronic images shortly.
I have one volunteer to work on transcribing these records, but he would
welcome others to help with the transcription work. Because the images
are electronic, this transcription work can be done at home.

I also have received photographs of the Holocaust Memorial in the
Jewish cemetery of Mezocsat, Borsod megye, Hungary. This memorial could
be transcribed directly >from the photos or I can provide electronic images.

If you would be willing to help transcribe the vital records >from the
Szerencs district registers or transcribe the names on the Mezocsat
Holocaust Memorial, please contact me directly at caroljr@....

Carol Robinson
H-SIG Research Coordinator
caroljr@...
Alameda, CA USA


Seeking Information on Poljana (Polyana) and Weisz (Weiss) and Alter #hungary

Ruth Busch
 

I am writing >from New Zealand and trying to trace anyone who be related =
to either Weiss (or Weisz) or Alter >from Poljana (Polyana) =
Czechoslovakia.=20
I'm also looking for anyone who might have be related to people with the =
surname Katz >from Kadjanov (6 kms. >from Munchas) in what was =
Czechoslovakia between World War I and World War II but is now in the =
Ukraine (and belonged to Hungary during WWII).=20
I'm also interested in learning about Munchas (now Munkachevo in the =
Ukraine). My parents were married by the Munchache(?) Rabbi in 1935 and =
lived there until the war. Their surname was Weiss.=20
Cheers!=20
ruth busch
ps I assume this is the right specialist group given the map changes =
involved above. Please advise.

Moderator: Yes, you have found the right SIG. H-SIG covers areas that were part of the Hungarian kingdom before the end of World War I. this includes Munkacs, which became part of the new nation of Czechoslovakia following the Treaty of Trianon and is now Mukaceve, Ukraine. Have you checked the JewishGen Family Finder and the All Hungary Database for these names?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Seeking Information on Poljana (Polyana) and Weisz (Weiss) and Alter #hungary

Ruth Busch
 

I am writing >from New Zealand and trying to trace anyone who be related =
to either Weiss (or Weisz) or Alter >from Poljana (Polyana) =
Czechoslovakia.=20
I'm also looking for anyone who might have be related to people with the =
surname Katz >from Kadjanov (6 kms. >from Munchas) in what was =
Czechoslovakia between World War I and World War II but is now in the =
Ukraine (and belonged to Hungary during WWII).=20
I'm also interested in learning about Munchas (now Munkachevo in the =
Ukraine). My parents were married by the Munchache(?) Rabbi in 1935 and =
lived there until the war. Their surname was Weiss.=20
Cheers!=20
ruth busch
ps I assume this is the right specialist group given the map changes =
involved above. Please advise.

Moderator: Yes, you have found the right SIG. H-SIG covers areas that were part of the Hungarian kingdom before the end of World War I. this includes Munkacs, which became part of the new nation of Czechoslovakia following the Treaty of Trianon and is now Mukaceve, Ukraine. Have you checked the JewishGen Family Finder and the All Hungary Database for these names?