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ViewMate Translation Needed (Russian) #lithuania

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i have 5 documents posted on viewmate and would
appreciate the kind assistance of anyone with skill in
translating cyrillic.

they are located here:
VM5777 & VM 5779 birth & death records of my great
aunt szejna liba kowalska, who was about a year old
when she died:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5777
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5779

VM5780 death record for malka kowalska
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5780
VM5781 birth record for my great uncle sender kowalski
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5781
VM5782 birth record for my great uncle mowsza kowalski

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5782

thanks in advance to anyone who can help translate one
or more of these.

dayna chalif
san francisco USA

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ViewMate Translation Needed (Russian) #lithuania

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i have 5 documents posted on viewmate and would
appreciate the kind assistance of anyone with skill in
translating cyrillic.

they are located here:
VM5777 & VM 5779 birth & death records of my great
aunt szejna liba kowalska, who was about a year old
when she died:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5777
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5779

VM5780 death record for malka kowalska
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5780
VM5781 birth record for my great uncle sender kowalski
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5781
VM5782 birth record for my great uncle mowsza kowalski

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5782

thanks in advance to anyone who can help translate one
or more of these.

dayna chalif
san francisco USA

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ViewMate Translation Needed, Please (Russian) #poland

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i have 5 documents posted on viewmate and would
appreciate the kind assistance of anyone with skill in
translating cyrillic.

they are located here:
VM5777 & VM 5779 birth & death records of my great
aunt szejna liba kowalska, who was about a year old
when she died:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5777
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5779

VM5780 death record for malka kowalska
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5780
VM5781 birth record for my great uncle sender kowalski
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5781
VM5782 birth record for my great uncle mowsza kowalski

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5782

thanks in advance to anyone who can help translate one
or more of these.

dayna chalif
san francisco USA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Needed, Please (Russian) #poland

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i have 5 documents posted on viewmate and would
appreciate the kind assistance of anyone with skill in
translating cyrillic.

they are located here:
VM5777 & VM 5779 birth & death records of my great
aunt szejna liba kowalska, who was about a year old
when she died:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5777
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5779

VM5780 death record for malka kowalska
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5780
VM5781 birth record for my great uncle sender kowalski
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5781
VM5782 birth record for my great uncle mowsza kowalski

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5782

thanks in advance to anyone who can help translate one
or more of these.

dayna chalif
san francisco USA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Zvenyhorodka (Zvenigorodka) & Vilkhovets (Volchivets) #ukraine

Daryn Beth <darynbeth@...>
 

Hi Genners,
I would like to know the distance between Zvenyhorodka
and Kiev as well as the distance between Zvenyhorodka
and Odessa. Are you familiar with the village of
Vilkhovets?

Thank You,
Doris


Moderator's Comment: Try http://www2.jewishgen.org/databases/
and select ShtetlSeeker by Town Name. You can find distances
between towns among other interesting things.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Zvenyhorodka (Zvenigorodka) & Vilkhovets (Volchivets) #ukraine

Daryn Beth <darynbeth@...>
 

Hi Genners,
I would like to know the distance between Zvenyhorodka
and Kiev as well as the distance between Zvenyhorodka
and Odessa. Are you familiar with the village of
Vilkhovets?

Thank You,
Doris


Moderator's Comment: Try http://www2.jewishgen.org/databases/
and select ShtetlSeeker by Town Name. You can find distances
between towns among other interesting things.


Re: London Fire Brigade WW2 #general

CharlesPottins
 

The London Fire Brigade has a museum and website and there is a page
about looking up records at
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/about_us/our_history/your_history.asp

They say when making your request, you should give any information you
have that might help trace the records, such as full name, date of
birth, and service dates, also the area might help.
The e-mail address to contact for information on someone serving during
the war or after is: records.services@london-fire.gov.uk

They also say their policies protect what kind of information can be
released and whom to, so I guess you would need to establish you were
relatives.
Incidentally, there are also plans to keep oral memoirs of what it was
like serving in the wartime fire brigade, hopefully some of this might
become available on line.

Charlie Pottins


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: London Fire Brigade WW2 #general

CharlesPottins
 

The London Fire Brigade has a museum and website and there is a page
about looking up records at
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/about_us/our_history/your_history.asp

They say when making your request, you should give any information you
have that might help trace the records, such as full name, date of
birth, and service dates, also the area might help.
The e-mail address to contact for information on someone serving during
the war or after is: records.services@london-fire.gov.uk

They also say their policies protect what kind of information can be
released and whom to, so I guess you would need to establish you were
relatives.
Incidentally, there are also plans to keep oral memoirs of what it was
like serving in the wartime fire brigade, hopefully some of this might
become available on line.

Charlie Pottins


Re: interesting given name #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:43:19 UTC, anitac47@optonline.net (ac) opined:

I've been typing up a list of names that I had rec'd >from the Odessa State
Archive. Jewish records were kept separate >from non-Jews hence this is a
"Jewish" name but new to me: Eios. The name shows up a few times. The list
was typed up at the archive >from their records. It was transliterated here.
The Cyrillic letters are the "backwards"N O C b.

Your take on this?

Thanks.
It should be transliterated differently. Firstly, I am reasonably sure that
your "backward N" has a diacritic mark above it, which makes it like the
consonant "Y". Put it with the other two letters, and it comes out "Yos",
obviously an abbreviation for "Josef"... "Yosef", in English phonetics.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: interesting given name #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:43:19 UTC, anitac47@optonline.net (ac) opined:

I've been typing up a list of names that I had rec'd >from the Odessa State
Archive. Jewish records were kept separate >from non-Jews hence this is a
"Jewish" name but new to me: Eios. The name shows up a few times. The list
was typed up at the archive >from their records. It was transliterated here.
The Cyrillic letters are the "backwards"N O C b.

Your take on this?

Thanks.
It should be transliterated differently. Firstly, I am reasonably sure that
your "backward N" has a diacritic mark above it, which makes it like the
consonant "Y". Put it with the other two letters, and it comes out "Yos",
obviously an abbreviation for "Josef"... "Yosef", in English phonetics.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
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there.


Re: reincarnation #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:26:14 UTC, ravads@optonline.net (Arnie) opined:
In researching my family roots, I recall that there was a belief in the
Ukrainian side of the family about people dying, coming back as animals if
they were not good people. To me, this sounds a bit more Hindu than
Ukrainian Jewish! Does anyone know of similar folk beliefs that might have
existed in the Jewish communities in the Ukraine or surrounding areas?

Arnold D. Samlan
RavADS@aol.com
West Hempstead, NY
There is a segment in the film "Der Dybbuk" which is based on Ansky's play
of that name, in which a character says exactly that. If I remember
correctly (fifty years after seeing it), it's even broader: people may come
back as Animals, Fish, or Plants.

I suspect that this sort of notion was current throught the Russian Pale,
though certainly not by everyone in the Jewish population subscribed to it.
Things like this are the stock in trade of Kabbala.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: reincarnation #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:26:14 UTC, ravads@optonline.net (Arnie) opined:
In researching my family roots, I recall that there was a belief in the
Ukrainian side of the family about people dying, coming back as animals if
they were not good people. To me, this sounds a bit more Hindu than
Ukrainian Jewish! Does anyone know of similar folk beliefs that might have
existed in the Jewish communities in the Ukraine or surrounding areas?

Arnold D. Samlan
RavADS@aol.com
West Hempstead, NY
There is a segment in the film "Der Dybbuk" which is based on Ansky's play
of that name, in which a character says exactly that. If I remember
correctly (fifty years after seeing it), it's even broader: people may come
back as Animals, Fish, or Plants.

I suspect that this sort of notion was current throught the Russian Pale,
though certainly not by everyone in the Jewish population subscribed to it.
Things like this are the stock in trade of Kabbala.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: 1904 Poland Industrial Directory #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

The 1904 Poland Industrial Directory that Jacob Rosen found on the Digital
Library of Wielkopolska website
http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/doccontent2?id=2018&dirids=1 also contains a
name index on pages 16-54.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: 1904 Poland Industrial Directory #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

The 1904 Poland Industrial Directory that Jacob Rosen found on the Digital
Library of Wielkopolska website
http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/doccontent2?id=2018&dirids=1 also contains a
name index on pages 16-54.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Re: KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Where Once We Walked reports that Kitay Gorod, Ukr. had a prewar Jewish
population of 1,595. It is 92 km SSE of Vinnytsya at 48o29'/29o01';.
According to Yad VaShem's Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the
Holocaust, it had a Jewish pop. of 469 as early as 1765, and 735 (out of a
total of 2,794) in 1897. After the German occupation of 25 July, 1941, 180
Jews were expelled to Dashev and executed there.

YadVaShem reports another Kitaigorod in the Kaments-Podolski district. Jews
settled in the 17th c., forming an organized community. In 1765 the J. pop
included 489 taxpayers. In 1897, the J. pop sood at 642. The community
maintained a synagogue and beit hamidrash. In 1905, peasants >from a
neighboring village drove off Cossacks seeking to attach the Jews. In 1919
the Petlyura gangs staged a prgrom and killed 84 Jews. The Germans occupied
the town in July 1941. The Jews were expelled to a labor camp in
Kamenete-Podolski. In Jan 1942 they were murdered with the other Jews in
the area.

I'm not sure which of these is yours. Hope this helps.

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA
DMC@dmcohen.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Where Once We Walked reports that Kitay Gorod, Ukr. had a prewar Jewish
population of 1,595. It is 92 km SSE of Vinnytsya at 48o29'/29o01';.
According to Yad VaShem's Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the
Holocaust, it had a Jewish pop. of 469 as early as 1765, and 735 (out of a
total of 2,794) in 1897. After the German occupation of 25 July, 1941, 180
Jews were expelled to Dashev and executed there.

YadVaShem reports another Kitaigorod in the Kaments-Podolski district. Jews
settled in the 17th c., forming an organized community. In 1765 the J. pop
included 489 taxpayers. In 1897, the J. pop sood at 642. The community
maintained a synagogue and beit hamidrash. In 1905, peasants >from a
neighboring village drove off Cossacks seeking to attach the Jews. In 1919
the Petlyura gangs staged a prgrom and killed 84 Jews. The Germans occupied
the town in July 1941. The Jews were expelled to a labor camp in
Kamenete-Podolski. In Jan 1942 they were murdered with the other Jews in
the area.

I'm not sure which of these is yours. Hope this helps.

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA
DMC@dmcohen.com


Re: KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

There is a very small shtetl Kitaigorod north of Uman. There is also a
Kitaigorod in the Kamenets-Podolsk area. My father's ancestors came >from the
first Kitaigorod and received the name Kitaigorodsky.

Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, israel

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz

Allan Schwartz writes:

My grandfather may have come >from a town called KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD.
Can anyone tell me if there is such a town and where it is. Is it near
Odessa?
ANy help will be appreciated. I can be emailed to alsces@bellsouth.net.

Thank you,
Alan L. Schwartz


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

There is a very small shtetl Kitaigorod north of Uman. There is also a
Kitaigorod in the Kamenets-Podolsk area. My father's ancestors came >from the
first Kitaigorod and received the name Kitaigorodsky.

Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, israel

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz

Allan Schwartz writes:

My grandfather may have come >from a town called KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD.
Can anyone tell me if there is such a town and where it is. Is it near
Odessa?
ANy help will be appreciated. I can be emailed to alsces@bellsouth.net.

Thank you,
Alan L. Schwartz


Re: The Name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Sheila Toffell
 

Just as another confirmation - my Grandmother was born Bajla, and took the
name Betsy in the UK. I also understand that it was simply a popular name at
the time.

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ 07452


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: The Name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Sheila Toffell
 

Just as another confirmation - my Grandmother was born Bajla, and took the
name Betsy in the UK. I also understand that it was simply a popular name at
the time.

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ 07452