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Library "BOF" #belarus

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Are any library staff (current or retired) attending the IAJGS
Conference in Las Vegas? Do you think you might actually find a few free
moments to have a "schmooze" session? If so, please contact me. I was
thinking mostly in terms of dinner or after-dinner as possible times.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@sciti.com


Library "BOF" #romania

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Are any library staff (current or retired) attending the IAJGS
Conference in Las Vegas? Do you think you might actually find a few free
moments to have a "schmooze" session? If so, please contact me. I was
thinking mostly in terms of dinner or after-dinner as possible times.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@sciti.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Library "BOF" #belarus

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Are any library staff (current or retired) attending the IAJGS
Conference in Las Vegas? Do you think you might actually find a few free
moments to have a "schmooze" session? If so, please contact me. I was
thinking mostly in terms of dinner or after-dinner as possible times.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@sciti.com


Romania SIG #Romania Library "BOF" #romania

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Are any library staff (current or retired) attending the IAJGS
Conference in Las Vegas? Do you think you might actually find a few free
moments to have a "schmooze" session? If so, please contact me. I was
thinking mostly in terms of dinner or after-dinner as possible times.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@sciti.com


Russian Army service #general

Rosalind
 

Dear Genners,

In last quarter of 19th century how long was army service?
At what age was a man/ boy called up?

Would someone be able to confirm that the following tale is likely to be
correct. .
The one remaining living child of my grandfather's brother says her father
did 2 stints of army service one in his own name and one in my GF's name at
the request of my GGmother, his mother. She thought my apparently sickly GF
would not survive.
I have a copy of a paper >from the Lithuanian Archives stating that my GF
went to the army (Went to his call up or actually served is not clear)
whereas his nephew had not complied.
Naturally I presumed GF had at least been called up, possibly discharged as
sickly, but now great uncle's daughter says probably her father went in his
own name and also as big brother.

Big brother was 5 years older than baby brother. Big brother was of small
stature. Baby brother was big.
Apparently 2 of his children were born while he was in the army. This would
be when baby brother was in his late 20's or early 30's.

Thank you
Ros Romem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Army service #general

Rosalind
 

Dear Genners,

In last quarter of 19th century how long was army service?
At what age was a man/ boy called up?

Would someone be able to confirm that the following tale is likely to be
correct. .
The one remaining living child of my grandfather's brother says her father
did 2 stints of army service one in his own name and one in my GF's name at
the request of my GGmother, his mother. She thought my apparently sickly GF
would not survive.
I have a copy of a paper >from the Lithuanian Archives stating that my GF
went to the army (Went to his call up or actually served is not clear)
whereas his nephew had not complied.
Naturally I presumed GF had at least been called up, possibly discharged as
sickly, but now great uncle's daughter says probably her father went in his
own name and also as big brother.

Big brother was 5 years older than baby brother. Big brother was of small
stature. Baby brother was big.
Apparently 2 of his children were born while he was in the army. This would
be when baby brother was in his late 20's or early 30's.

Thank you
Ros Romem


Knyazhe-Timanov modern name? #general

robert roudman <rcroudman@...>
 

Hello, I am trying to determine where Tomanof in Moldava/Bessarbia is
located and what the modern name would be. My grandfather listed Tomanof as
his birthplace. I believe he was born near Tiraspol or Tighnia in today's
Moldava. I found a reference to a Timinov in a birth record that I believe
to be the Tomanof I am looking for. The record is as follows:
Bessarabia Father petty bourgeois >from Knyazhe-Timanov /
Kniazshe-Tumanivke, Moil/Mohel: Moishe BRIMER Kishinev. Can anyone tell me
where Knyazhe-Timanov / Knaizshe-Tumanivke might be located and what the
modern name would be?
Thank you,
Bob Roudman
San Rafael, CA
KRUTANSKY, CHALIK, Moldava; RUDMAN, MALTZMAN, KAPLAN, MILLNER, Ukraine,
Lithuania, Latvia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Knyazhe-Timanov modern name? #general

robert roudman <rcroudman@...>
 

Hello, I am trying to determine where Tomanof in Moldava/Bessarbia is
located and what the modern name would be. My grandfather listed Tomanof as
his birthplace. I believe he was born near Tiraspol or Tighnia in today's
Moldava. I found a reference to a Timinov in a birth record that I believe
to be the Tomanof I am looking for. The record is as follows:
Bessarabia Father petty bourgeois >from Knyazhe-Timanov /
Kniazshe-Tumanivke, Moil/Mohel: Moishe BRIMER Kishinev. Can anyone tell me
where Knyazhe-Timanov / Knaizshe-Tumanivke might be located and what the
modern name would be?
Thank you,
Bob Roudman
San Rafael, CA
KRUTANSKY, CHALIK, Moldava; RUDMAN, MALTZMAN, KAPLAN, MILLNER, Ukraine,
Lithuania, Latvia.


Barnato family questions #general

bxzi@...
 

3 quick questions:

1) Was Jack Barnato the son or the nephew of Barney Barnato?

2) Was his widow (Dorothy or Dorothee) of Jewish ancestry?

3) Did they have any children?

Thanks for everyone's help.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barnato family questions #general

bxzi@...
 

3 quick questions:

1) Was Jack Barnato the son or the nephew of Barney Barnato?

2) Was his widow (Dorothy or Dorothee) of Jewish ancestry?

3) Did they have any children?

Thanks for everyone's help.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


"The Nazi who Saved Jews" #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A video of this talk can be watched online through the Booktv web site:

http://www.booktv.org/History/index.asp?segID=5825&schedID=356


<Description: Michael Good profiles the life of Nazi army officer Major Karl
Plagge. In "The Search for Major Plagge," the author recounts how the
officer saved his mother, Pearl, and 250 Jews >from death in a concentration
camp Lithuania during the Holocaust. Mr. Good explains that he decided to
research Major Plagge's story after visiting Lithuania in the summer of
1999. This event was hosted by the Durham Public Library in Connecticut.

Author Bio: Dr. Michael Good is a physician in Durham, Connecticut. His
father, William Good, survived the war after escaping execution by the
Nazis.

Publisher: Fordham University Press University Box L Bronx, NY 10458>

LitvakSIG Vilna District Research Group Coordinator Joel Ratner is
mentioned by the author.

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "The Nazi who Saved Jews" #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A video of this talk can be watched online through the Booktv web site:

http://www.booktv.org/History/index.asp?segID=5825&schedID=356


<Description: Michael Good profiles the life of Nazi army officer Major Karl
Plagge. In "The Search for Major Plagge," the author recounts how the
officer saved his mother, Pearl, and 250 Jews >from death in a concentration
camp Lithuania during the Holocaust. Mr. Good explains that he decided to
research Major Plagge's story after visiting Lithuania in the summer of
1999. This event was hosted by the Durham Public Library in Connecticut.

Author Bio: Dr. Michael Good is a physician in Durham, Connecticut. His
father, William Good, survived the war after escaping execution by the
Nazis.

Publisher: Fordham University Press University Box L Bronx, NY 10458>

LitvakSIG Vilna District Research Group Coordinator Joel Ratner is
mentioned by the author.

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Two brothers listed as one person #lithuania

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Harold,

Yes, it was somewhat common to change the name of siblings to avoid the
Russian draft. My great-uncle Israel immigrated to Mexico in the late
1920's and on a local Lithuanian census taken a few years later we found
his younger brother, Reuven, who was listed as Israel.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ADELSON, GORDON, PERCZIK (Nemajouni; Butrimantz; Meretz; Aran)

Subject: Two brothers listed as one person
From: "hrhode" <hrhode@verizon.net>

In records >from Lithuania for both my paternal (northern Lithuania) and
maternal (southeastern Lithuania) two brothers are listed as one person.

I don't know why although I assume that it may have something to do with

trying to avoid the Russian draft. I am curious to know how common this
practice was. Has anyone else come across such records?

Harold Rhode


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Two brothers listed as one person #lithuania

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Harold,

Yes, it was somewhat common to change the name of siblings to avoid the
Russian draft. My great-uncle Israel immigrated to Mexico in the late
1920's and on a local Lithuanian census taken a few years later we found
his younger brother, Reuven, who was listed as Israel.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ADELSON, GORDON, PERCZIK (Nemajouni; Butrimantz; Meretz; Aran)

Subject: Two brothers listed as one person
From: "hrhode" <hrhode@verizon.net>

In records >from Lithuania for both my paternal (northern Lithuania) and
maternal (southeastern Lithuania) two brothers are listed as one person.

I don't know why although I assume that it may have something to do with

trying to avoid the Russian draft. I am curious to know how common this
practice was. Has anyone else come across such records?

Harold Rhode


Advantages to joining the uyezd research groups #lithuania

Ada Green
 

Even though the ALD was recently updated, there are still advantages to
joining the LitvakSIG uyezd research groups not only to receive future
documents at least a year before they are released to the ALD, but even for
*past* ones as well.

Vilijampole researcher Jerry Atkin <jatkin95@earthlink.net> joined the
Kaunas uyezd group in February 2005. Even though the 1834 and 1850
Vilijampole revision lists were already in the ALD for well over a year
beforehand, Jerry's surnames of research were spelled slightly differently
in Lithuania than what he knew them to be. He was able to find his
ancestors only by having the actual Excel files in front of him where he
could search record by record. The following testimony >from Jerry is a
classic example of the advantage of joining the uyezd groups:

begin quoted message
----------------------------------------

Dear Ada,

I've been remiss in not thanking you for your help. About 3 months ago, you
sent me the databases >from the Kaunas District Research Group, specifically
the lists for Vilijampole. What a treasure they are! Previously, in
researching my mother's family ( SIMON, SIMELES, SHIMELES, I could only go
back to my great-grandfather ( Aaron SIMELES) and great-grandmother ( Bertha
SIMELES). As a result of the wealth of information in the lists, I was able
to discover, and connect back to, Abram SHIMELES, my great-great-great-great
grandfather, who was born some time in the 1770's or 80's. Also, along with
this were names of dozens of sons, daughters, spouses, cousins, etc. I think
my knowledge of the SIMON side of my family tripled over all. I'm certainly
looking forward to the publication of the 1874 Vilijampole data. Again,
thank you and your group so much. If you think you want to post this to the
LitvakSIG Digest, please feel free to do so. Jerry Atkin

end quoted message
----------------------------------------

So even though the uyezd research groups have been in existence since 1998,
they continue to have a number of advantages over relying exclusively on
the ALD. Congratulations to Jerry for having such amazingly great success!

Ada Green
LitvakSIG Kaunas district research group co-ordinator
adagreen@att.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Advantages to joining the uyezd research groups #lithuania

Ada Green
 

Even though the ALD was recently updated, there are still advantages to
joining the LitvakSIG uyezd research groups not only to receive future
documents at least a year before they are released to the ALD, but even for
*past* ones as well.

Vilijampole researcher Jerry Atkin <jatkin95@earthlink.net> joined the
Kaunas uyezd group in February 2005. Even though the 1834 and 1850
Vilijampole revision lists were already in the ALD for well over a year
beforehand, Jerry's surnames of research were spelled slightly differently
in Lithuania than what he knew them to be. He was able to find his
ancestors only by having the actual Excel files in front of him where he
could search record by record. The following testimony >from Jerry is a
classic example of the advantage of joining the uyezd groups:

begin quoted message
----------------------------------------

Dear Ada,

I've been remiss in not thanking you for your help. About 3 months ago, you
sent me the databases >from the Kaunas District Research Group, specifically
the lists for Vilijampole. What a treasure they are! Previously, in
researching my mother's family ( SIMON, SIMELES, SHIMELES, I could only go
back to my great-grandfather ( Aaron SIMELES) and great-grandmother ( Bertha
SIMELES). As a result of the wealth of information in the lists, I was able
to discover, and connect back to, Abram SHIMELES, my great-great-great-great
grandfather, who was born some time in the 1770's or 80's. Also, along with
this were names of dozens of sons, daughters, spouses, cousins, etc. I think
my knowledge of the SIMON side of my family tripled over all. I'm certainly
looking forward to the publication of the 1874 Vilijampole data. Again,
thank you and your group so much. If you think you want to post this to the
LitvakSIG Digest, please feel free to do so. Jerry Atkin

end quoted message
----------------------------------------

So even though the uyezd research groups have been in existence since 1998,
they continue to have a number of advantages over relying exclusively on
the ALD. Congratulations to Jerry for having such amazingly great success!

Ada Green
LitvakSIG Kaunas district research group co-ordinator
adagreen@att.net


Kolbuszowa Region Research (KRRG) BOF Meeting at the IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

A Birds of a Feather Meeting (BOF) has been scheduled for the 25TH IAJGS
Conference On Jewish Genealogy to be held in Las Vegas:

Monday, July 11, 2005
2:00 PM - 3:15 PM
Location: Reno I

Everyone with family links to shtetlach included in the Kolbuszowa Region
Research group is cordially invited to attend.

Attendees will have an opportunity to network with others researching the
towns listed below, to share information, and to find out more about
research resources and future projects.

The Rzeszow Group BOF meeting follows immediately after the KRRG meeting
and will be chaired by Eden Joachim.
Monday, July 11, 2005
3:30 PM - 4:45 PM
Location: Reno I

Many members of KRRG had family ties to Rzeszow, an important town and the
Capital of the Province. Rzeszow families also had branches in several of
the surrounding shtetlach so you should make sure to attend both meetings.

Please let me know if you will be attending the meetings and which
shtetlach you are researching in case I have material of special interest
that I should bring with me.

KRRG website: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/
The KRRG includes the following Administrative Districts (AD):

Kolbuszowa - Lancut - Mielec - Nisko - Pilzno - Ropczyce - Rzeszow -
Strzyzow - Tarnobrzeg

Some of the shtetlach included in KRRG:

Albigowa, Alfredwoka, Baranow Sandomierski , Biala (Near Tyczyn),
Bialoboki, Blazowa, Biesiadka, Blizna, Boguchwala, Bojanow, Borowa,
Brandwica, Brzezowka, Brzostek, Brzozowa, Charzewice,
Chmielow, Chmielnik, Chodaczow, Cholewiana Gora, Chorzelow Chwalowice,
Cierpisz, Cmolas, Czajkowa, Dabrowa, (Ropczyce), Dabrowica, Domaradz,
Drabinianka, Debica, Frysztak, Gac, Gawluszowice, Giedlarowa, Glogow
Malopolski, Gora Ropczycka, Gorki, Gorno, Grebow, Groble, Grodzisko,
Gumniska, Gwozdziec, Hussow, Jagiela, Jaslany, Jata, Jawornik Polski,
Jelna, Jezowe, Jodlowa, Judaszowka, Kakolowka, Kamien, Kamyszyn,
Klapowka, Kliszow, Kolbuszowa, Kopcie, Krasne, Krzemienica, Krzeszow,
Kurylowka, Lancut, Lezajsk, Lukawiec, Majdan Krolewski, Manasterz, Markowa,
Medynia, Medynia, Mielec, Mrowla, Niebylec, Nisko, Niwiska, Nowa Wies,
Nowosielce, Ostrow, Pantalowice, Pilzno, Plawo, Podkosciele, Pogorzalka,
Przeclaw, Przedborz, Przedmiescie, Przeclaw, Przeryty Bor, Przeworsk,
Przylek, Przybyszowka, Pysznica, Radomysl Nad Sanem, Radomysl Wielki,
Rakszawa, Ranizow, Ropczyce, Rozwadow, Ruda, Rudnik, Rusinow,
Rzedzianowice, Sadkowa-Gora, Sedziszow, Siedlanka, Sietesz, Slocina,
Slotowa, Smykow Maly, Sobow, Sokol, Sokolow Malopolski, Stalowa Wola,
Staroniwa, Strzyzow, Tarnawka, Tarnobrzeg / Dzikow, Tarnowska Wola,
Trzebos, Trzebuska, Turka, Tyczyn, Ulanow, Wadowice, Wampierzow , Widelka,
Wielopole, Witkowice, Wydrze, Wolica Lugowa, Zabratowka, Zagorze,
Zbydniow, Zielonka, Zolynia, Zupawa.

See you in Las Vegas!

Susana Leistner Bloch
Kolbuszowa Region Research Group
bloch@mts.net


JRI Poland #Poland Kolbuszowa Region Research (KRRG) BOF Meeting at the IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

A Birds of a Feather Meeting (BOF) has been scheduled for the 25TH IAJGS
Conference On Jewish Genealogy to be held in Las Vegas:

Monday, July 11, 2005
2:00 PM - 3:15 PM
Location: Reno I

Everyone with family links to shtetlach included in the Kolbuszowa Region
Research group is cordially invited to attend.

Attendees will have an opportunity to network with others researching the
towns listed below, to share information, and to find out more about
research resources and future projects.

The Rzeszow Group BOF meeting follows immediately after the KRRG meeting
and will be chaired by Eden Joachim.
Monday, July 11, 2005
3:30 PM - 4:45 PM
Location: Reno I

Many members of KRRG had family ties to Rzeszow, an important town and the
Capital of the Province. Rzeszow families also had branches in several of
the surrounding shtetlach so you should make sure to attend both meetings.

Please let me know if you will be attending the meetings and which
shtetlach you are researching in case I have material of special interest
that I should bring with me.

KRRG website: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/
The KRRG includes the following Administrative Districts (AD):

Kolbuszowa - Lancut - Mielec - Nisko - Pilzno - Ropczyce - Rzeszow -
Strzyzow - Tarnobrzeg

Some of the shtetlach included in KRRG:

Albigowa, Alfredwoka, Baranow Sandomierski , Biala (Near Tyczyn),
Bialoboki, Blazowa, Biesiadka, Blizna, Boguchwala, Bojanow, Borowa,
Brandwica, Brzezowka, Brzostek, Brzozowa, Charzewice,
Chmielow, Chmielnik, Chodaczow, Cholewiana Gora, Chorzelow Chwalowice,
Cierpisz, Cmolas, Czajkowa, Dabrowa, (Ropczyce), Dabrowica, Domaradz,
Drabinianka, Debica, Frysztak, Gac, Gawluszowice, Giedlarowa, Glogow
Malopolski, Gora Ropczycka, Gorki, Gorno, Grebow, Groble, Grodzisko,
Gumniska, Gwozdziec, Hussow, Jagiela, Jaslany, Jata, Jawornik Polski,
Jelna, Jezowe, Jodlowa, Judaszowka, Kakolowka, Kamien, Kamyszyn,
Klapowka, Kliszow, Kolbuszowa, Kopcie, Krasne, Krzemienica, Krzeszow,
Kurylowka, Lancut, Lezajsk, Lukawiec, Majdan Krolewski, Manasterz, Markowa,
Medynia, Medynia, Mielec, Mrowla, Niebylec, Nisko, Niwiska, Nowa Wies,
Nowosielce, Ostrow, Pantalowice, Pilzno, Plawo, Podkosciele, Pogorzalka,
Przeclaw, Przedborz, Przedmiescie, Przeclaw, Przeryty Bor, Przeworsk,
Przylek, Przybyszowka, Pysznica, Radomysl Nad Sanem, Radomysl Wielki,
Rakszawa, Ranizow, Ropczyce, Rozwadow, Ruda, Rudnik, Rusinow,
Rzedzianowice, Sadkowa-Gora, Sedziszow, Siedlanka, Sietesz, Slocina,
Slotowa, Smykow Maly, Sobow, Sokol, Sokolow Malopolski, Stalowa Wola,
Staroniwa, Strzyzow, Tarnawka, Tarnobrzeg / Dzikow, Tarnowska Wola,
Trzebos, Trzebuska, Turka, Tyczyn, Ulanow, Wadowice, Wampierzow , Widelka,
Wielopole, Witkowice, Wydrze, Wolica Lugowa, Zabratowka, Zagorze,
Zbydniow, Zielonka, Zolynia, Zupawa.

See you in Las Vegas!

Susana Leistner Bloch
Kolbuszowa Region Research Group
bloch@mts.net


Re: Naming a baby who dies at birth #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My husband has a niece whose baby died *before* birth - estimated to have
died a few weeks before she went into labor. The baby was named and buried.
Leslie Weinberg
Dear Leslie,

That is interesting. But may I inquire where the burial took place?
(i.e., what denomination of Judaism was this particular cemetery?)

Some Conservative Jewish cemeteries have a "corner" set aside for
the burial of nefalim (miscarriages, stillbirths, and babies who die
within the first 30 days after birth). But this is done without a
regular burial service.

I assume Reform cemeteries provide such an area (but I don't know
whether or not a service is held in those cases).

And I don't know whether orthodox cemeteries even provide an area for
such burials. Can someone enlighten us?

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming a baby who dies at birth #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My husband has a niece whose baby died *before* birth - estimated to have
died a few weeks before she went into labor. The baby was named and buried.
Leslie Weinberg
Dear Leslie,

That is interesting. But may I inquire where the burial took place?
(i.e., what denomination of Judaism was this particular cemetery?)

Some Conservative Jewish cemeteries have a "corner" set aside for
the burial of nefalim (miscarriages, stillbirths, and babies who die
within the first 30 days after birth). But this is done without a
regular burial service.

I assume Reform cemeteries provide such an area (but I don't know
whether or not a service is held in those cases).

And I don't know whether orthodox cemeteries even provide an area for
such burials. Can someone enlighten us?

Judith Romney Wegner