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Name of Ward in Canadian 1911 Census?? #general

Flo Elman
 

I'm hoping that someone can identify an electoral ward for me in Montreal,
Quebec, Canada & send me the name/s.
The streets that it would contain are:
Clark Street
*** St. Urbain Street (this is the one I think my grandparents lived on)
Colonial Street
Rachel Street
De Bullion Street
& possibly Mount Royal

I've been going through the St. Louis Ward ( Large Jewish immigrant
population), but the names I'm researching (NERENBERG - Sam; GOLDSMAN -
Velvel or William; ZINMAN - Nucham) aren't in them.

The URL of the census is
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/0201_e.html

Thanks,
Florence Elman
haflo@shaw.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name of Ward in Canadian 1911 Census?? #general

Flo Elman
 

I'm hoping that someone can identify an electoral ward for me in Montreal,
Quebec, Canada & send me the name/s.
The streets that it would contain are:
Clark Street
*** St. Urbain Street (this is the one I think my grandparents lived on)
Colonial Street
Rachel Street
De Bullion Street
& possibly Mount Royal

I've been going through the St. Louis Ward ( Large Jewish immigrant
population), but the names I'm researching (NERENBERG - Sam; GOLDSMAN -
Velvel or William; ZINMAN - Nucham) aren't in them.

The URL of the census is
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/0201_e.html

Thanks,
Florence Elman
haflo@shaw.ca


Re: Full Information: Shtetls & Gubernyas #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

A fine suggestion, but not, I fear, very realistic. A good many people
posting questions of that source will not know that kind of detail about
their town because they are only listing what their family lore gives them,
or because they are still trying to work out which a five widely separated
towns of the same name is really "theirs".

So I would suggest providing what reference point you can, if you have them,
and recognize that some can't.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


"Steve Orlen" <sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote in

May I respectfully submit this suggestion: When someone says they're
looking for the ADELSON family >from Wysokodwor, it would be very helpful if
they mentioned that Wysokodwor is in Lithuania, not far >from Vilnius &
Trakai. When someone wants information about family >from an even more
obscure shtetl, I don't want to have to bother going to shtetl-seeker to
find out which country it's in, which gubernya, near which major city.


Help Needed: Abraham ISAACS 1910 #general

jewishgen@juno.com <jewishgen@...>
 

Abraham ISAACS, his wife, Bluma Rivka and their apparently blended family
were living on 7th Avenue North in Minneapolis in 1900. I would most
appreciate a 1910 census lookup.

The family lived at 909 Logan Avenue in Minneapolis in 1920 and in 1930.

Thank you.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, Tennessee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Full Information: Shtetls & Gubernyas #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

A fine suggestion, but not, I fear, very realistic. A good many people
posting questions of that source will not know that kind of detail about
their town because they are only listing what their family lore gives them,
or because they are still trying to work out which a five widely separated
towns of the same name is really "theirs".

So I would suggest providing what reference point you can, if you have them,
and recognize that some can't.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


"Steve Orlen" <sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote in

May I respectfully submit this suggestion: When someone says they're
looking for the ADELSON family >from Wysokodwor, it would be very helpful if
they mentioned that Wysokodwor is in Lithuania, not far >from Vilnius &
Trakai. When someone wants information about family >from an even more
obscure shtetl, I don't want to have to bother going to shtetl-seeker to
find out which country it's in, which gubernya, near which major city.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help Needed: Abraham ISAACS 1910 #general

jewishgen@juno.com <jewishgen@...>
 

Abraham ISAACS, his wife, Bluma Rivka and their apparently blended family
were living on 7th Avenue North in Minneapolis in 1900. I would most
appreciate a 1910 census lookup.

The family lived at 909 Logan Avenue in Minneapolis in 1920 and in 1930.

Thank you.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, Tennessee


Finding anscestors in Poland #poland

j fox <h20signe@...>
 

My Grandparents came >from Poland to North America (Windsor, Ont.) @ 1911.
I would like to hear >from anyone who might have suggestions on how to
trace their arrival. I haven't had much luck finding their entry port,
as they came to Windsor, Ontario, Canada. I found their naturalization
paper # via a Canadian website, but I'm not sure where to go to retrieve
those records...I'm sure that those papers/documents will give me some of
the necessary info I want to continue with my search for family, and I
would appreciate any help I can get.

I have tried to contact some of my family via e-mail, yet some of their
addresses are no longer active or have changed.

My grandparents' name is now FOX. I do not know what the actual spelling
was, but am told that it may be FOCKS or FUCHS. All of my dad's siblings
(6 children incl. my dad) were born in Windsor. My dad was born in 1927.
The family then moved to Detroit, MI, probably around 1930 or so. Is there
a way to retrieve a census report >from a particular state for 1930? Or is
it not available online at this time?

I know, so many unanswered questions, but my thirst for knowledge is
consuming me...lol...

Also, my father told me that his grandfather (his father's father) was
a teacher of rabbis while he lived in Poland. How do I research this?
I'm still not sure what town they lived in while in Poland, or what their
actual name was. I know this makes it more difficult, but any help or
ideas thrown my way would certainly be appreciated...

Thank you,

Jan Fox
Grandaughter of
Abraham Max Fox/Annie Nisenbaum Fox

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because the scope of the JRI-Poland Discussion
group is research in the current and former territories of Poland,
responses covering Canadian and U.S. research options and strategies
should be sent privately. Ideas on locating teachers of rabbis in
Poland may be shared with the list.


JRI Poland #Poland Finding anscestors in Poland #poland

j fox <h20signe@...>
 

My Grandparents came >from Poland to North America (Windsor, Ont.) @ 1911.
I would like to hear >from anyone who might have suggestions on how to
trace their arrival. I haven't had much luck finding their entry port,
as they came to Windsor, Ontario, Canada. I found their naturalization
paper # via a Canadian website, but I'm not sure where to go to retrieve
those records...I'm sure that those papers/documents will give me some of
the necessary info I want to continue with my search for family, and I
would appreciate any help I can get.

I have tried to contact some of my family via e-mail, yet some of their
addresses are no longer active or have changed.

My grandparents' name is now FOX. I do not know what the actual spelling
was, but am told that it may be FOCKS or FUCHS. All of my dad's siblings
(6 children incl. my dad) were born in Windsor. My dad was born in 1927.
The family then moved to Detroit, MI, probably around 1930 or so. Is there
a way to retrieve a census report >from a particular state for 1930? Or is
it not available online at this time?

I know, so many unanswered questions, but my thirst for knowledge is
consuming me...lol...

Also, my father told me that his grandfather (his father's father) was
a teacher of rabbis while he lived in Poland. How do I research this?
I'm still not sure what town they lived in while in Poland, or what their
actual name was. I know this makes it more difficult, but any help or
ideas thrown my way would certainly be appreciated...

Thank you,

Jan Fox
Grandaughter of
Abraham Max Fox/Annie Nisenbaum Fox

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because the scope of the JRI-Poland Discussion
group is research in the current and former territories of Poland,
responses covering Canadian and U.S. research options and strategies
should be sent privately. Ideas on locating teachers of rabbis in
Poland may be shared with the list.


Re: Obtaining a match 7+ generations ago #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

On 2006.08.06, Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@bellsouth.net> asked:

I am considering doing a 12, 25, or 37 panel test to see if my male
lineage is the same as another male lineage with the same last name
that came >from a nearby shtetl in the Ukraine. Can some tell me what
their experience has been with these tests. I would need to match up
at least 7 generations ago. Since both lines share the same last
name and come >from very close proximity, I feel we are related, but
would like to prove it. Any information will be appreciated.
Marilyn, with your matching origins and surnames, the 37-marker test
will give you your answer, whether you're as closely related as you
suspect, or unrelated at all.

An exact match at all 37 markers would indicate a probable common
ancestor within 7 generations. A one-step difference among 37 markers
would push the probability range back to 12 generations. Likely as it
is that the two of you are related, any greater difference would show
that the relationship, while real, is probably too far back to be
confirmed or determined precisely >from any records that may have
survived.

Or the tests may show you're not related at all, which would also
answer your question.

Donn Devine
Wilmington DE USA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Obtaining a match 7+ generations ago #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

On 2006.08.06, Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@bellsouth.net> asked:

I am considering doing a 12, 25, or 37 panel test to see if my male
lineage is the same as another male lineage with the same last name
that came >from a nearby shtetl in the Ukraine. Can some tell me what
their experience has been with these tests. I would need to match up
at least 7 generations ago. Since both lines share the same last
name and come >from very close proximity, I feel we are related, but
would like to prove it. Any information will be appreciated.
Marilyn, with your matching origins and surnames, the 37-marker test
will give you your answer, whether you're as closely related as you
suspect, or unrelated at all.

An exact match at all 37 markers would indicate a probable common
ancestor within 7 generations. A one-step difference among 37 markers
would push the probability range back to 12 generations. Likely as it
is that the two of you are related, any greater difference would show
that the relationship, while real, is probably too far back to be
confirmed or determined precisely >from any records that may have
survived.

Or the tests may show you're not related at all, which would also
answer your question.

Donn Devine
Wilmington DE USA


Re: Reading a US census record #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Genners,

On Aug.6,2005, meowkatt2002@tds.net (who does not give his/ her
location) asked about finding a relative on the "1930 Chicago census", which
I assume to be the 1930 US Federal Census. The question was also asked, "Is
there a free site I can look this up on? What is on the census form?"

I would suggest that this person (or anyone else) contact their local
library to inquire if that library system subscribes to the ProQuest Ancestry
Library Edition. This can be accessed only via the library's internet computers.
There is no cost involved. Most of what is available on the commercial site by
subscription only is available on the Library Edition. I was able to access
the Immigration records, and found my ggrandmother arriving at the Port of
Philadelphia in 1906. I made a copy of the passenger manifest. It was free. Of
course, I had to go to the library.

The writer also wanted to know what was on the census form. The writer ( and
others) can go to the commercial site and print copies of blank census forms
for *all* years. >from the home page click on any census year link and then
on the next screen there is a link to the census forms.

I might have been able to give more definitive information had I known where
the writer was located -- USA (city and State), Canada, Europe, etc.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Re: Blank Forms for 1911 Canada Census #general

bud484bg@...
 

Does anyone know if there are blank forms available for the 1911 Canada
Census, similar to those for the U.S. Census Forms?
These would be helpful in recording the census information.

Thanks in advance.

Beatrice Markel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Reading a US census record #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Genners,

On Aug.6,2005, meowkatt2002@tds.net (who does not give his/ her
location) asked about finding a relative on the "1930 Chicago census", which
I assume to be the 1930 US Federal Census. The question was also asked, "Is
there a free site I can look this up on? What is on the census form?"

I would suggest that this person (or anyone else) contact their local
library to inquire if that library system subscribes to the ProQuest Ancestry
Library Edition. This can be accessed only via the library's internet computers.
There is no cost involved. Most of what is available on the commercial site by
subscription only is available on the Library Edition. I was able to access
the Immigration records, and found my ggrandmother arriving at the Port of
Philadelphia in 1906. I made a copy of the passenger manifest. It was free. Of
course, I had to go to the library.

The writer also wanted to know what was on the census form. The writer ( and
others) can go to the commercial site and print copies of blank census forms
for *all* years. >from the home page click on any census year link and then
on the next screen there is a link to the census forms.

I might have been able to give more definitive information had I known where
the writer was located -- USA (city and State), Canada, Europe, etc.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Blank Forms for 1911 Canada Census #general

bud484bg@...
 

Does anyone know if there are blank forms available for the 1911 Canada
Census, similar to those for the U.S. Census Forms?
These would be helpful in recording the census information.

Thanks in advance.

Beatrice Markel


The books have been published in Germany. #lithuania

Anatoly Chayesh <chayesh@...>
 

Dear Litvaks,

I am making a research on the Jewish history of Zeimelis (Lithuania)
relating to the period of June to August of 1941. I have to study
materials on military actions on the Northwest front around Shaulyai
from June 22 to July 9, 1941 to understand better how it might happen
that about a quarter of the local Jews could safely flew to the East.
The corps of the German first army occupied Shaulyai on June 26, 1941.
That time the corps consisted of 1st, 11th, and 21st infantry divisions.
I have the book describing the fighting way of the 21st infantry
division. I need to get pages of books about the fighting way of 1st and
11th infantry divisions >from June 22 to July 9, 1941. These books have
been published in Germany. Their titles are:

1) Die 1. Ostpreu?ische Infanterie-Division.

Werner Richter, Eigenverlag, 1975, 190 pages;

2) Weg und Schicksal der 11. Infanterie-Division.

Werner Buxa, Podzun, 1952, 163 pages.

Whoever of the Jews living in Germany could help me to get copies of
these pages. I will be deeply grateful. My publications will appear in
the Internet.

Anatolij Chayesh

St. Petersburg, Russia

chayesh@pop3.rcom.ru

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania The books have been published in Germany. #lithuania

Anatoly Chayesh <chayesh@...>
 

Dear Litvaks,

I am making a research on the Jewish history of Zeimelis (Lithuania)
relating to the period of June to August of 1941. I have to study
materials on military actions on the Northwest front around Shaulyai
from June 22 to July 9, 1941 to understand better how it might happen
that about a quarter of the local Jews could safely flew to the East.
The corps of the German first army occupied Shaulyai on June 26, 1941.
That time the corps consisted of 1st, 11th, and 21st infantry divisions.
I have the book describing the fighting way of the 21st infantry
division. I need to get pages of books about the fighting way of 1st and
11th infantry divisions >from June 22 to July 9, 1941. These books have
been published in Germany. Their titles are:

1) Die 1. Ostpreu?ische Infanterie-Division.

Werner Richter, Eigenverlag, 1975, 190 pages;

2) Weg und Schicksal der 11. Infanterie-Division.

Werner Buxa, Podzun, 1952, 163 pages.

Whoever of the Jews living in Germany could help me to get copies of
these pages. I will be deeply grateful. My publications will appear in
the Internet.

Anatolij Chayesh

St. Petersburg, Russia

chayesh@pop3.rcom.ru

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lazday or Braunholtz #lithuania

Mara Fein <maraharv@...>
 

Can anyone advise how I would try to find records about my Friedman or
Braunholtz family in Lazday?

Also, I have been unable to even find the name Braunholtz anywhere. Is
anyone doing research on this name?

Mara Fein
Los Angeles
maraharv@msn.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lazday or Braunholtz #lithuania

Mara Fein <maraharv@...>
 

Can anyone advise how I would try to find records about my Friedman or
Braunholtz family in Lazday?

Also, I have been unable to even find the name Braunholtz anywhere. Is
anyone doing research on this name?

Mara Fein
Los Angeles
maraharv@msn.com


Zelva "celebrates" Dr. Aaron KLUG #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

On September 15 the town of Zelva, Lithuania plans on unveiling a sculpture
of Dr. Aaron KLUG. Dr. Klug, past president of the Royal Society and Nobel
Prize winner, was born in Zelva but left for South Africa when he was two
years old in 1924 (the remaining KLUG family were murdered in Zelva). Zita
Kriuaèiûnienë, the head of the school museum of Zelva, would like to know
how to contact Dr. Klug's family, especially his sons, and invite them to
the ceremony and obtain photographs of the family.

Please respond privately.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK >from Zelva


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Zelva "celebrates" Dr. Aaron KLUG #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

On September 15 the town of Zelva, Lithuania plans on unveiling a sculpture
of Dr. Aaron KLUG. Dr. Klug, past president of the Royal Society and Nobel
Prize winner, was born in Zelva but left for South Africa when he was two
years old in 1924 (the remaining KLUG family were murdered in Zelva). Zita
Kriuaèiûnienë, the head of the school museum of Zelva, would like to know
how to contact Dr. Klug's family, especially his sons, and invite them to
the ceremony and obtain photographs of the family.

Please respond privately.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK >from Zelva