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Re: "Travel to Czech Republic" #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

When I first started my project, photographing Jewish
cemeteries in Czech Republic in 1997, I had completed
exactly three weeks of (a dubious) Czech language
class!

Still, on that, and all subsequent trips, I had
wonderful experiences and encounters with individuals
I would have otherwise never met. In later years as I
became more and more conversational and my language
skills improved, the work became easier, but to be
honest, I missed the sense of wonder and adventure of
the earlier times! I can not even count the times
when older people offered to walk with me and show me
to the cemetery, and if they were giving directions, I
would reach a turn, question myself, look in the rear
view mirror, to find them gesturing and pointing the
way until I was out of sight.

My suggestions, when looking for Jewish cemeteries and
other sites, ask the older people, the chances are
much better that they will know, do not hesitate to
ask police officers if they are present, as well. In
many cases, they will have you follow them to the
site.

There are VERY detailed road atlases or maps available
in any gas station there, which show all the small
villages. This is one of the best small investments
you can make if you are driving! In most cases,
cemeteries were required to be outside of city or
village limits, and often the Jewish communities were
sold less desireable plots of land. Be prepared
knowing some cemeteries may be off dirt roads between
villages, surrounded by a farmers field, or in a grove
of trees, etc.

If you are renting a car and will be driving on the
highways, a window decal (permit) is required, they
are sold at gas stations near entrances to the
motorway, and are now available in a seven-day permit.
You can be pulled over and given a fine if you drive
on the motorway without it. Here is information in
English http://www.ceskedalnice.cz/en/fee.htm

If you do not have a guide or someone who speaks
Czech, write down (and learn to pronounce) the
questions you will ask most, etc. I know of one man
who was mispronouncing the word for cemetery so badly,
that no one understood the word, and could not
possibly direct him. I would suggest having a letter
or legal sized pad of paper so someone can draw out a
map for you, etc.

Also, planning and organization ahead of time will pay
off, and avoid unnecessary frustration. In cases when
the cemetery or synagogue building is locked, it is
almost always possible to arrange in advance to have
the caretaker (or other person) meet you to unlock it.
In cases where there is a cemetery wall and gate,
please understand that if it is present and locked, it
is to protect the site, and all the work that has
probably been done there already after considerable
work and expense!

Above all, HAVE FUN and bring a sense of adventure!

List members may e-mail me offline if I may be of
assistance.

Lisa Feder,
Fox Lake, IL
www.chaiworks.org


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: "Travel to Czech Republic" #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

When I first started my project, photographing Jewish
cemeteries in Czech Republic in 1997, I had completed
exactly three weeks of (a dubious) Czech language
class!

Still, on that, and all subsequent trips, I had
wonderful experiences and encounters with individuals
I would have otherwise never met. In later years as I
became more and more conversational and my language
skills improved, the work became easier, but to be
honest, I missed the sense of wonder and adventure of
the earlier times! I can not even count the times
when older people offered to walk with me and show me
to the cemetery, and if they were giving directions, I
would reach a turn, question myself, look in the rear
view mirror, to find them gesturing and pointing the
way until I was out of sight.

My suggestions, when looking for Jewish cemeteries and
other sites, ask the older people, the chances are
much better that they will know, do not hesitate to
ask police officers if they are present, as well. In
many cases, they will have you follow them to the
site.

There are VERY detailed road atlases or maps available
in any gas station there, which show all the small
villages. This is one of the best small investments
you can make if you are driving! In most cases,
cemeteries were required to be outside of city or
village limits, and often the Jewish communities were
sold less desireable plots of land. Be prepared
knowing some cemeteries may be off dirt roads between
villages, surrounded by a farmers field, or in a grove
of trees, etc.

If you are renting a car and will be driving on the
highways, a window decal (permit) is required, they
are sold at gas stations near entrances to the
motorway, and are now available in a seven-day permit.
You can be pulled over and given a fine if you drive
on the motorway without it. Here is information in
English http://www.ceskedalnice.cz/en/fee.htm

If you do not have a guide or someone who speaks
Czech, write down (and learn to pronounce) the
questions you will ask most, etc. I know of one man
who was mispronouncing the word for cemetery so badly,
that no one understood the word, and could not
possibly direct him. I would suggest having a letter
or legal sized pad of paper so someone can draw out a
map for you, etc.

Also, planning and organization ahead of time will pay
off, and avoid unnecessary frustration. In cases when
the cemetery or synagogue building is locked, it is
almost always possible to arrange in advance to have
the caretaker (or other person) meet you to unlock it.
In cases where there is a cemetery wall and gate,
please understand that if it is present and locked, it
is to protect the site, and all the work that has
probably been done there already after considerable
work and expense!

Above all, HAVE FUN and bring a sense of adventure!

List members may e-mail me offline if I may be of
assistance.

Lisa Feder,
Fox Lake, IL
www.chaiworks.org


Slonimers in South Africa #belarus

Ray Stone <rstone@...>
 

My mother's family, CHEPELEVSKYs >from Slonim, mostly left Slonim
in the early 1900s, going mainly to the US (New York, Denver) and
Palestine.

Family lore has it that some family members emigrated to South
Africa. I'm interested in contacting descendants of this
family that moved to South Africa.

Known names that Chepelevskys have adopted are: Chappell,
Sapir, Cipel, Sepel, etc.

Please reply privately.


Ray Stone
rstone@west.net
Santa Barbara, CA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Slonimers in South Africa #belarus

Ray Stone <rstone@...>
 

My mother's family, CHEPELEVSKYs >from Slonim, mostly left Slonim
in the early 1900s, going mainly to the US (New York, Denver) and
Palestine.

Family lore has it that some family members emigrated to South
Africa. I'm interested in contacting descendants of this
family that moved to South Africa.

Known names that Chepelevskys have adopted are: Chappell,
Sapir, Cipel, Sepel, etc.

Please reply privately.


Ray Stone
rstone@west.net
Santa Barbara, CA


Salomon ROSENBERG #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

As part of a file for the Yad Vashem Medal of Righteous, I'm
searching information concerning Salomon ROSENBERG, born in Paris
(France) on 10 May 1920. He was deported to Auschwitz in 1943 and was
a survivor in 1945. He may be still alive, in France, US orIsrael.
Any clue would be welcome. Please respond privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


French SIG #France Salomon ROSENBERG #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

As part of a file for the Yad Vashem Medal of Righteous, I'm
searching information concerning Salomon ROSENBERG, born in Paris
(France) on 10 May 1920. He was deported to Auschwitz in 1943 and was
a survivor in 1945. He may be still alive, in France, US orIsrael.
Any clue would be welcome. Please respond privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Re: KATZ in Zvil [Novogrod-Volynsk] #general

Hilary Henkin
 

Dear Bob,

According to a commercial website, a Dora POSNER died April 9, 1955
at age 74 in Vancouver. This coincides with the birth year of Dora
KATZ. The death registration # is 1955-09-004254, bca #:
B13223; gsu #: 2032984 (I don't know what these last two numbers
are). According to the British Columbia government website at
http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/death/certified_reg_elig.html , death records
are restricted for 75 years, but they do release information to "Any
other person who satisfies the Chief Executive officer concerning the
good faith of the person's cause >from requiring the copy or extract."
or "Any person, if more than 20 years have passed since the death of
the deceased.") Forms and procedures are linked >from the above website.

Apparently, Nathan Posner died Jan 15, 1959 at age 77, also in
Vancouver. His death registration # is 1959-09-001464; bca #: B13240
; gsu #: 2033181.

If it's not on her death record, her mother's maiden name could be on
her marriage certificate. If Dora was married in Winnipeg, you ought
to be able to get a copy of her marriage certificate. I checked the
Province of Manitoba website and its marriages are online and indexed
(yes,we are getting spoiled, aren't we!) at
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php , but neither of the two
POSNER marriages are Nathans'-and-Dora's. This indicates more
research - she may not have been married in Winnipeg after all, or
she may have married less than 80 years ago, which is the privacy
cut-off in Manitoba.

According to the commercial website, they didn't marry in Vancouver,
either - they're not listed in that 1872-1924 index.

Another possibility might be The Genealogical Institute of the Jewish
Heritage Centre of Western Canada, at
http://www.jhcwc.org/geninst.htm . Their website indicates they've
gotten permission to index and place online the synagogue records of
Winnipeg, and are awaiting volunteers for that project.

I didn't find either Nathan or Dora Posner on the 1901 or 1911 Canada
Census, at either the commercial website or the volunteer website
(www.automatedgenealogy.com), which makes me think they immigrated or
married after 1911.


As for Fanny, given that she was born and married in the "Old
Country", the only likely note of her mother's maiden name in North
America would be on her death record, wherever that may be.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

I am trying to find information concerning the maiden name of the
mother of two sisters >from Zvil, [Novograd-Volynsk]. Her married name was KATZ

Ths sisters names are:
Fanny Katz,b. (c) 1879, [married Wolfe Landa in Dnepropvesk Ukraine]
Dora Katz, b.1881, [married Nathan Posner in Winnipeg Canada]

Both sisters immigrated to Winnipeg Canada c. 1900

(I realize this is a stab in the dark but I have run out of ideas on
how to find this information which would connect families I am researching.)

Bob Kraft


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: KATZ in Zvil [Novogrod-Volynsk] #general

Hilary Henkin
 

Dear Bob,

According to a commercial website, a Dora POSNER died April 9, 1955
at age 74 in Vancouver. This coincides with the birth year of Dora
KATZ. The death registration # is 1955-09-004254, bca #:
B13223; gsu #: 2032984 (I don't know what these last two numbers
are). According to the British Columbia government website at
http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/death/certified_reg_elig.html , death records
are restricted for 75 years, but they do release information to "Any
other person who satisfies the Chief Executive officer concerning the
good faith of the person's cause >from requiring the copy or extract."
or "Any person, if more than 20 years have passed since the death of
the deceased.") Forms and procedures are linked >from the above website.

Apparently, Nathan Posner died Jan 15, 1959 at age 77, also in
Vancouver. His death registration # is 1959-09-001464; bca #: B13240
; gsu #: 2033181.

If it's not on her death record, her mother's maiden name could be on
her marriage certificate. If Dora was married in Winnipeg, you ought
to be able to get a copy of her marriage certificate. I checked the
Province of Manitoba website and its marriages are online and indexed
(yes,we are getting spoiled, aren't we!) at
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php , but neither of the two
POSNER marriages are Nathans'-and-Dora's. This indicates more
research - she may not have been married in Winnipeg after all, or
she may have married less than 80 years ago, which is the privacy
cut-off in Manitoba.

According to the commercial website, they didn't marry in Vancouver,
either - they're not listed in that 1872-1924 index.

Another possibility might be The Genealogical Institute of the Jewish
Heritage Centre of Western Canada, at
http://www.jhcwc.org/geninst.htm . Their website indicates they've
gotten permission to index and place online the synagogue records of
Winnipeg, and are awaiting volunteers for that project.

I didn't find either Nathan or Dora Posner on the 1901 or 1911 Canada
Census, at either the commercial website or the volunteer website
(www.automatedgenealogy.com), which makes me think they immigrated or
married after 1911.


As for Fanny, given that she was born and married in the "Old
Country", the only likely note of her mother's maiden name in North
America would be on her death record, wherever that may be.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

I am trying to find information concerning the maiden name of the
mother of two sisters >from Zvil, [Novograd-Volynsk]. Her married name was KATZ

Ths sisters names are:
Fanny Katz,b. (c) 1879, [married Wolfe Landa in Dnepropvesk Ukraine]
Dora Katz, b.1881, [married Nathan Posner in Winnipeg Canada]

Both sisters immigrated to Winnipeg Canada c. 1900

(I realize this is a stab in the dark but I have run out of ideas on
how to find this information which would connect families I am researching.)

Bob Kraft


1869 Hungary Census Secovce, KLEIN/WEBER #general

Ivan Greenhut <igreenhut@...>
 

Does anyone have LDS film #0722697 Galszecs, Hungary (Secovce, Slovakia)
1869 Cencus??

Need copy of original record for Pinkesz KLEIN/ Hany WEBER and family.
Transcribed record is on JewishGen site, but is missing information I need
for my KLEIN family genealogy book.

Thank you,

Ivan Greenhut
igreenhut@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1869 Hungary Census Secovce, KLEIN/WEBER #general

Ivan Greenhut <igreenhut@...>
 

Does anyone have LDS film #0722697 Galszecs, Hungary (Secovce, Slovakia)
1869 Cencus??

Need copy of original record for Pinkesz KLEIN/ Hany WEBER and family.
Transcribed record is on JewishGen site, but is missing information I need
for my KLEIN family genealogy book.

Thank you,

Ivan Greenhut
igreenhut@hotmail.com


He: Translation from Polish #general

Sam Lenger
 

Hi all
I receive an answer to an email I send to the Lublin Archives. If you can
translate it into English or Hebrew pls contact me privately.
TIA
Sam Lenger
sdfisr@zahav.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen He: Translation from Polish #general

Sam Lenger
 

Hi all
I receive an answer to an email I send to the Lublin Archives. If you can
translate it into English or Hebrew pls contact me privately.
TIA
Sam Lenger
sdfisr@zahav.net.il


Salomon ROSENBERG #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

As part of a file for the Yad Vashem Medal of Righteous, I'm
searching information concerning Salomon ROSENBERG, born in Paris
(France) on 10 May 1920. He was deported to Auschwitz in 1943 and was
a survivor in 1945. He may be still alive, in France, US or Israel.
Any clue would be welcome. Please respond privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Salomon ROSENBERG #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

As part of a file for the Yad Vashem Medal of Righteous, I'm
searching information concerning Salomon ROSENBERG, born in Paris
(France) on 10 May 1920. He was deported to Auschwitz in 1943 and was
a survivor in 1945. He may be still alive, in France, US or Israel.
Any clue would be welcome. Please respond privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Belchatow Suvivor to be in National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame ---all welcome #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

This is a very special event. Former Belchatower
Harry Haft will be inducted into the National
Jewish Sports Hall of Fame on Sunday, April 29,
2007 at 10:30 AM at the Suffolk Y-JCC 74 Hauppauge
Road, Commack, NY 11725 Tel: 631-462-9800.

Harry Haft was only 16 when he was sent to the
concentration camps. He was forced to fight other
Jews in bare knuckle bouts for the entertainment
of S.S. officers. Ultimately, escaping the camp,
Harry traveled to America and became a pro boxer.
Harry now lives in Pembroke Pines, Florida. His
story of survival and his boxing career (he fought
Rocky Marciano in 1948), written by his son Alan,
has been published by Syracuse University Press.
Read more on the Belchatow ShtetLinks site at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/

Harry Haft will be attending, along with many
members of his family. Mark your calendars: April
29, 10:30 in the morning. Everyone is Invited.
I hope to see you there too.

All the best,
Roni
[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
Scarsdale, New York

Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/


JRI Poland #Poland Belchatow Suvivor to be in National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame ---all welcome #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

This is a very special event. Former Belchatower
Harry Haft will be inducted into the National
Jewish Sports Hall of Fame on Sunday, April 29,
2007 at 10:30 AM at the Suffolk Y-JCC 74 Hauppauge
Road, Commack, NY 11725 Tel: 631-462-9800.

Harry Haft was only 16 when he was sent to the
concentration camps. He was forced to fight other
Jews in bare knuckle bouts for the entertainment
of S.S. officers. Ultimately, escaping the camp,
Harry traveled to America and became a pro boxer.
Harry now lives in Pembroke Pines, Florida. His
story of survival and his boxing career (he fought
Rocky Marciano in 1948), written by his son Alan,
has been published by Syracuse University Press.
Read more on the Belchatow ShtetLinks site at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/

Harry Haft will be attending, along with many
members of his family. Mark your calendars: April
29, 10:30 in the morning. Everyone is Invited.
I hope to see you there too.

All the best,
Roni
[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
Scarsdale, New York

Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/


Lew and Sejnes families #poland

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,

I have 2 death documents >from residents of Sokoly Poland who are not part
of my family:

1841 AKT 4, Death of Orko LEW son of Jankiel
1841 AKT 5, Death of Szejna SEJNES daughter of Jankiel and Mejta.

They have not been translated so cannot provide any more details.

Sokoly is located in the Lomza Gubernia and is 87 miles/140 kilometers NE
of Warsaw,
52 59' 22 42'

If you would like a copy of these documents, please contact me privately.

Kind regards
Shelly Crane
USA
crzprncess@aol.com

other surnames I am researching in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: CYPKOWSKI,
DANOWSKI, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FAJNSTEIN, FINKELSZTEJN (Rajgrod), FRAJND,
FROMSON, GABELMAN, GUROWSKI, GROSMAN, IDZKOWSKI, LANGANS, LANGUS,
LIPOWICZ, LIPSZYC, MILEWICZ, MYSKOWSKY, PRESZMAN, TOCZYLOWSKI,
WAJNSTEIN, WYTRIOL; Gabin, Poland: BOL; Miedzyrzec Podlaski,
Poland: FLASZTERSZTEIN


JRI Poland #Poland Lew and Sejnes families #poland

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,

I have 2 death documents >from residents of Sokoly Poland who are not part
of my family:

1841 AKT 4, Death of Orko LEW son of Jankiel
1841 AKT 5, Death of Szejna SEJNES daughter of Jankiel and Mejta.

They have not been translated so cannot provide any more details.

Sokoly is located in the Lomza Gubernia and is 87 miles/140 kilometers NE
of Warsaw,
52 59' 22 42'

If you would like a copy of these documents, please contact me privately.

Kind regards
Shelly Crane
USA
crzprncess@aol.com

other surnames I am researching in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: CYPKOWSKI,
DANOWSKI, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FAJNSTEIN, FINKELSZTEJN (Rajgrod), FRAJND,
FROMSON, GABELMAN, GUROWSKI, GROSMAN, IDZKOWSKI, LANGANS, LANGUS,
LIPOWICZ, LIPSZYC, MILEWICZ, MYSKOWSKY, PRESZMAN, TOCZYLOWSKI,
WAJNSTEIN, WYTRIOL; Gabin, Poland: BOL; Miedzyrzec Podlaski,
Poland: FLASZTERSZTEIN


Source citation examples for PSA/LDS Polish Records? #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I wonder what would be an appropriate way to cite sources >from PSA or LDS
vital documents (Birth, Marriage, Death) in your genealogical reports.

Can somebody suggest citation examples? We should likely consider different
instances like (1) Database Entry but no actual document produced (2)
Document received >from the PSA or copy >from the LDS microfilm.

Thanks,
--
Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare, Ireland

SLIZAK, SANDAL, FELDMAN, WOLFSON, ZYLBERKRANTZ, DOMB - Miedzyrzec/Lukow (Pol)
SPOSOB/SPOSEEP - Kurytnycja, Lyuboml (Ukr), Chelm, Dubenka (Pol), USA;
FARBER - Kiyev (Ukr), Argentina; GURFINKEL - Hrubieszow (Pol)
KLEINER/KLEIN - Hrubieszow, Chrzanow, Sieniawa (Pol), UK;
PLOJT, PLOIT - Vladimir Volynskiy, Ozdziutycze, Kovel (Ukr), Argentina;
JAEGER, (Eastern Galicia);


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Source citation examples for PSA/LDS Polish Records? #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I wonder what would be an appropriate way to cite sources >from PSA or LDS
vital documents (Birth, Marriage, Death) in your genealogical reports.

Can somebody suggest citation examples? We should likely consider different
instances like (1) Database Entry but no actual document produced (2)
Document received >from the PSA or copy >from the LDS microfilm.

Thanks,
--
Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare, Ireland

SLIZAK, SANDAL, FELDMAN, WOLFSON, ZYLBERKRANTZ, DOMB - Miedzyrzec/Lukow (Pol)
SPOSOB/SPOSEEP - Kurytnycja, Lyuboml (Ukr), Chelm, Dubenka (Pol), USA;
FARBER - Kiyev (Ukr), Argentina; GURFINKEL - Hrubieszow (Pol)
KLEINER/KLEIN - Hrubieszow, Chrzanow, Sieniawa (Pol), UK;
PLOJT, PLOIT - Vladimir Volynskiy, Ozdziutycze, Kovel (Ukr), Argentina;
JAEGER, (Eastern Galicia);