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Porubka #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Hello,

Dolph Klein's excellent description of Preselany prompts me to ask.

My Weiss/Vidor family lived in "Porubka" near Lipto SzentMiklos. But I
cannot locate this village. I have located several other places called
Poruba or Porubka, but none very close to Lipto SzentMiklos. Can anyone help?

George Farkas
Montreal

Researching:
FARKAS, KLEIN, GROSZ (Ottomany (Otomani), Genyete (Ghenetea), Marghita,
Debrecen)
FRIED, ALTMAN (Nyirbator)
LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, SPITZER, LUSTIG (Holesov, Hlinik, O'Beszterce (Stara
Bystrica), Zilina)
WEISZ/VIDOR, STEIN (Porobka, Lipto SzentMiklos, Budapest)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Porubka #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Hello,

Dolph Klein's excellent description of Preselany prompts me to ask.

My Weiss/Vidor family lived in "Porubka" near Lipto SzentMiklos. But I
cannot locate this village. I have located several other places called
Poruba or Porubka, but none very close to Lipto SzentMiklos. Can anyone help?

George Farkas
Montreal

Researching:
FARKAS, KLEIN, GROSZ (Ottomany (Otomani), Genyete (Ghenetea), Marghita,
Debrecen)
FRIED, ALTMAN (Nyirbator)
LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, SPITZER, LUSTIG (Holesov, Hlinik, O'Beszterce (Stara
Bystrica), Zilina)
WEISZ/VIDOR, STEIN (Porobka, Lipto SzentMiklos, Budapest)


Help requested translating Russian documents. #general

Ronald Miller <ronald.miller@...>
 

Looking for help translating Russian documents that were in the papers found
after the passing of a cousin. I believe one is a draft notice (3 pages)
from 1906. The other is an unknown 2 page with 8 short paragraphs. It might
have to do with the draft (?) papers. Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated. Please respond privately - unless the results would be of
interest to all. To see the documents, please follow this link:
http://ronald.miller.home.att.net/documents.htm

I previously posted a request for a translation of what turned out to be an
internal Russian passport >from 1913. Anyone interested in seeing it and the
translation can view it at: http://home.att.net/~ronald.miller/turow.htm I
believe the newly discovered documents are related to the same relative,
perhaps to his draft status.

Thanks in advance,
Ron Miller

Searching: CHARGO, GARFINKLE, GOLDENBERG, KAPLAN, KARPMAN, KRASNITZKY,
MELAMED, MILLER, SHANKMAN, WEISBERG, SHARGORODSKY
All >from Ukraine, Minsk, Mozyr, Ivankova, Rechitsa, Kiev areas.

ronald.miller@att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help requested translating Russian documents. #general

Ronald Miller <ronald.miller@...>
 

Looking for help translating Russian documents that were in the papers found
after the passing of a cousin. I believe one is a draft notice (3 pages)
from 1906. The other is an unknown 2 page with 8 short paragraphs. It might
have to do with the draft (?) papers. Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated. Please respond privately - unless the results would be of
interest to all. To see the documents, please follow this link:
http://ronald.miller.home.att.net/documents.htm

I previously posted a request for a translation of what turned out to be an
internal Russian passport >from 1913. Anyone interested in seeing it and the
translation can view it at: http://home.att.net/~ronald.miller/turow.htm I
believe the newly discovered documents are related to the same relative,
perhaps to his draft status.

Thanks in advance,
Ron Miller

Searching: CHARGO, GARFINKLE, GOLDENBERG, KAPLAN, KARPMAN, KRASNITZKY,
MELAMED, MILLER, SHANKMAN, WEISBERG, SHARGORODSKY
All >from Ukraine, Minsk, Mozyr, Ivankova, Rechitsa, Kiev areas.

ronald.miller@att.net


Re: Women emigrating alone #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Did you try using on Steve Morse's one-step website a search by
towns like Mogilev, etc.?

Diane Jacobs
New York


Dear Geners,

My grandmother, Anna PASSIN, arrived in the U.S. in 1903, according to the
1920 census. She was not married at the time. We believe that she traveled
alone and entered through Ellis Island. I can find no record of there,
despite using Stephen Morse's excellent tool and every variant of both
names which I (and some of you) can think of.
--snip--

presumably >from Mogilev like my gm. I am
particularly interested in any sources I can access online, but also any
in the NYC area where she lived. Thanks in advance for considering my
problem.

Barbara Sloan
Wallingford, CT

mailto:BJSLN@prodigy.net
---


JG Auction-1928 "Who's Who in American Jewry" #general

Denise Azbill <Famaz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Want to donate to JewishGen and get something
wonderful in return? I recently picked up a copy of
the 1928 "Who's Who in American Jewry" at a local used
bookstore. This book is a treasure trove of names!
Lawyers, doctors, actors, welfare workers, authors,
bankers, and more! Where known, the person's date and
place of birth is given, as well as mother's and
father's names (including mother's maiden name!)
Almost all entries contain this info. Some entries
include spouse and date of marriage! If known,
current residence is given. The book is in very good
condition, considering it's age. The title of the book
is readable on the front cover, though is faint on the
side binding. All of the pages are clean.
Unfortunately, I hit the "donate" button twice, so the
book is listed twice, but there is only one copy.
Please visit www.jewishgen.org/auction/ to place your
bid!

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Searching KATZ #general

Marisa Katz <marisakatz@...>
 

Hello everyone-

This is my first posting and I hope my case will be
similiar to some. I am in the process of applying for
my German citizenship. My father was born in Zeilshein
,after WWII, which was a displaced persons camp
located in Frankfurt. I have my father's birth
certificate, but I am having a difficult time tracking
down my grandfathers birth and marriage certificates.
I have spoken to a Jew who still lives in Germany and
had a similiar experience to my father, and said I
would be hard pressed to find any documents on my
grandfather. I am hoping the German government is
understanding of this, but it may be difficult to
prove. What I am wondering is if anyone knows how one
can obtain records >from displaced persons camps in
Germany? Is there an organization that helps with
cases like this.

Thank you very much

MK


Re: Looking for Ataksk in Ukraine #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

In article <3BF5DD9E.78D6EF66@netspace.net.au>, Sam Leon
<salam@netspace.net.au> wrote:

Dear Genners
My paternal grandparents (Sadagarsky) had two son's births recorded in
Odessa in 1896 and 1897.
My grandfather in each case was recorded to be >from Ataksk.
I have not been able to find where Ataksk is located.
How about Ataki? It was in the Bessarabia guberniya and is now in Moldova.
It's on the Moldovan bank of the Dnester, across the river from
Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ukraine.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
--
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye) KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets) BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Nachman #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

Does anyone know if Nachman and Nokim are the same name? Thanks.

Jackie Waserstein

searching:
GRANAT, LACHOVITSKY, MISHELOF >from Slutsk
GELLER, BOGOMOLNY, >from Podolia area of Ukraine
WASSERSTEIN, >from Jedwabne
SPITZBERG, >from Pilica


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Women emigrating alone #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Did you try using on Steve Morse's one-step website a search by
towns like Mogilev, etc.?

Diane Jacobs
New York


Dear Geners,

My grandmother, Anna PASSIN, arrived in the U.S. in 1903, according to the
1920 census. She was not married at the time. We believe that she traveled
alone and entered through Ellis Island. I can find no record of there,
despite using Stephen Morse's excellent tool and every variant of both
names which I (and some of you) can think of.
--snip--

presumably >from Mogilev like my gm. I am
particularly interested in any sources I can access online, but also any
in the NYC area where she lived. Thanks in advance for considering my
problem.

Barbara Sloan
Wallingford, CT

mailto:BJSLN@prodigy.net
---


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JG Auction-1928 "Who's Who in American Jewry" #general

Denise Azbill <Famaz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Want to donate to JewishGen and get something
wonderful in return? I recently picked up a copy of
the 1928 "Who's Who in American Jewry" at a local used
bookstore. This book is a treasure trove of names!
Lawyers, doctors, actors, welfare workers, authors,
bankers, and more! Where known, the person's date and
place of birth is given, as well as mother's and
father's names (including mother's maiden name!)
Almost all entries contain this info. Some entries
include spouse and date of marriage! If known,
current residence is given. The book is in very good
condition, considering it's age. The title of the book
is readable on the front cover, though is faint on the
side binding. All of the pages are clean.
Unfortunately, I hit the "donate" button twice, so the
book is listed twice, but there is only one copy.
Please visit www.jewishgen.org/auction/ to place your
bid!

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KATZ #general

Marisa Katz <marisakatz@...>
 

Hello everyone-

This is my first posting and I hope my case will be
similiar to some. I am in the process of applying for
my German citizenship. My father was born in Zeilshein
,after WWII, which was a displaced persons camp
located in Frankfurt. I have my father's birth
certificate, but I am having a difficult time tracking
down my grandfathers birth and marriage certificates.
I have spoken to a Jew who still lives in Germany and
had a similiar experience to my father, and said I
would be hard pressed to find any documents on my
grandfather. I am hoping the German government is
understanding of this, but it may be difficult to
prove. What I am wondering is if anyone knows how one
can obtain records >from displaced persons camps in
Germany? Is there an organization that helps with
cases like this.

Thank you very much

MK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Ataksk in Ukraine #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

In article <3BF5DD9E.78D6EF66@netspace.net.au>, Sam Leon
<salam@netspace.net.au> wrote:

Dear Genners
My paternal grandparents (Sadagarsky) had two son's births recorded in
Odessa in 1896 and 1897.
My grandfather in each case was recorded to be >from Ataksk.
I have not been able to find where Ataksk is located.
How about Ataki? It was in the Bessarabia guberniya and is now in Moldova.
It's on the Moldovan bank of the Dnester, across the river from
Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ukraine.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
--
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye) KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets) BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nachman #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

Does anyone know if Nachman and Nokim are the same name? Thanks.

Jackie Waserstein

searching:
GRANAT, LACHOVITSKY, MISHELOF >from Slutsk
GELLER, BOGOMOLNY, >from Podolia area of Ukraine
WASSERSTEIN, >from Jedwabne
SPITZBERG, >from Pilica


Re: Turkic/Turkish, Khazar research #dna

Michael Siporin <michael98siporin@...>
 

You might try looking for a copy of Arthur Koestler's book, " The
Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and it's Heritage". I found it to be
very interesting.

For me. it provided a possibile answer to a personal mystery, as the
brother and sister of my maternal grandfather, Philip Haase, passed
themselves off as Turkish while living in Paris and Brussells during WW2.
They were >from Lodz, Poland, but spelled their name 'Haze'. Their family
name may have actually been Ghazi. My mother's sister had red hair.

Michael Siporin
mike@visionaryarts.com

Andy Carvin wrote in part:

As compelling as the Khazar stories are, I'm really curious to find out
exactly what's the latest on Khazar-Jewish connections based on genetic
research. Can anyone out there offer some suggested reading - preferably
research journals rather than websites about Khazaria?
thanks,

Andy Carvin
andy@benton.org


DNA Research #DNA RE: Turkic/Turkish, Khazar research #dna

Michael Siporin <michael98siporin@...>
 

You might try looking for a copy of Arthur Koestler's book, " The
Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and it's Heritage". I found it to be
very interesting.

For me. it provided a possibile answer to a personal mystery, as the
brother and sister of my maternal grandfather, Philip Haase, passed
themselves off as Turkish while living in Paris and Brussells during WW2.
They were >from Lodz, Poland, but spelled their name 'Haze'. Their family
name may have actually been Ghazi. My mother's sister had red hair.

Michael Siporin
mike@visionaryarts.com

Andy Carvin wrote in part:

As compelling as the Khazar stories are, I'm really curious to find out
exactly what's the latest on Khazar-Jewish connections based on genetic
research. Can anyone out there offer some suggested reading - preferably
research journals rather than websites about Khazaria?
thanks,

Andy Carvin
andy@benton.org


Re: Haplotype H #dna

Hbdon@...
 

My wife, Viviane Saulson, also was Haplotype H, and has red hair (her
mother does not, however, have red hair), and her maternal line traces
back to Galicia - or Austria. I forget the name of the author, but the
book, "The 13th tribe" I believed discussed the tribe of Khazars who
converted to Judaism in the 13th century, was said to be populated by many
red-heads. Also, when I asked how common the "no mutations" cambridge
standard was, I was told by Bennet that about 13% of those tested where in
that category.

Don Saulson


DNA Research #DNA Re: Haplotype H #dna

Hbdon@...
 

My wife, Viviane Saulson, also was Haplotype H, and has red hair (her
mother does not, however, have red hair), and her maternal line traces
back to Galicia - or Austria. I forget the name of the author, but the
book, "The 13th tribe" I believed discussed the tribe of Khazars who
converted to Judaism in the 13th century, was said to be populated by many
red-heads. Also, when I asked how common the "no mutations" cambridge
standard was, I was told by Bennet that about 13% of those tested where in
that category.

Don Saulson


Names - duplicate? #galicia

Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@...>
 

A cousin of mine, in Bolszowce, Galicia (currently Bolshovtsy, Ukr), was
named Chana. On one of her brother's passenger manifests, their mother's
name appears to be Chana Liba; on another, their mother' name is (typed)
Chana Sabo.

Either way, it appears that both mother and daughter were named Chana, an
oddity in Ashkenazic naming! Has anyone run into this? Is it likely?
Nowadays, we look at at second name as a "middle name" but is it possible
that Chana Sabo or Chana Liba would be considered a different name than just
Chana? Any idea what the "meaning" of Chana "Sabo" or Chana "Liba" might be?

I'm new to these SIG lists, but have already had one mystery solved.
Thanks!

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on: STRICK - Wielopole, LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN -
Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy,
BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA - Amstibove/Mstibovo, KLETZEL/KLETSEL - Volhynia region


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Names - duplicate? #galicia

Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@...>
 

A cousin of mine, in Bolszowce, Galicia (currently Bolshovtsy, Ukr), was
named Chana. On one of her brother's passenger manifests, their mother's
name appears to be Chana Liba; on another, their mother' name is (typed)
Chana Sabo.

Either way, it appears that both mother and daughter were named Chana, an
oddity in Ashkenazic naming! Has anyone run into this? Is it likely?
Nowadays, we look at at second name as a "middle name" but is it possible
that Chana Sabo or Chana Liba would be considered a different name than just
Chana? Any idea what the "meaning" of Chana "Sabo" or Chana "Liba" might be?

I'm new to these SIG lists, but have already had one mystery solved.
Thanks!

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on: STRICK - Wielopole, LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN -
Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy,
BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA - Amstibove/Mstibovo, KLETZEL/KLETSEL - Volhynia region