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Re: Researching Lazerovich from Bacau, Romania
#romania
Bob Wascou
Yes, there a branch of the National Archives of Romania located in
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Bacau. ROM-SIG is in the process of indexing some marriages for 1868-1869 >from Bacau. They will be in the JewishGen Romanian Database hopefully in July We also will work on marriages >from 1869-1872. You have not indicated which vital records you are after or the dates. ROM-SIG is looking for a person who lives in the Bacau area to photograph the birth, marriage and death records >from Bacau, Moinesti, Targu Ocna and Buhisi located in the Bacau archives. If anyone has a contact in Bacau who might be interested in doing this please contact me. Bob Wascou ROM-SIG Research Coordinator
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:21 AM, E Feinstein <ericfeinstein@...> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are vital records extant for Bacau, Romania?
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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Researching Lazerovich from Bacau, Romania
#romania
Bob Wascou
Yes, there a branch of the National Archives of Romania located in
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Bacau. ROM-SIG is in the process of indexing some marriages for 1868-1869 >from Bacau. They will be in the JewishGen Romanian Database hopefully in July We also will work on marriages >from 1869-1872. You have not indicated which vital records you are after or the dates. ROM-SIG is looking for a person who lives in the Bacau area to photograph the birth, marriage and death records >from Bacau, Moinesti, Targu Ocna and Buhisi located in the Bacau archives. If anyone has a contact in Bacau who might be interested in doing this please contact me. Bob Wascou ROM-SIG Research Coordinator
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:21 AM, E Feinstein <ericfeinstein@...> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are vital records extant for Bacau, Romania?
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Obits Look-ups, Please -- HELLER, Bronx NY
#general
Rachel Heller Bernstein <natrab@...>
Shalom,
I am researching the Heller family and have come across 2 men named Israel Heller, who were born with-in 2-3 yrs of each other and died with-in 2 yrs of each other: One died aged 77 on 5 Jun 1943 in Bronx, NY. The other died aged 80 on 22 Feb 1945, also in Bronx, NY. I would appreciate any obits, to help determine which Israel Heller was the husband of Mary and the father of Gussie & Frieda. My next step would be to order a copy of his death record, where hopefully, his parents' names might be listed and it might also reveal where he is buried. Thanks, Rachel Heller Bernstein, Yerushalayim Researching: HELLER: Krakow (Kazimierz), Tarnow/ USA FREY: Poland: Nowy Sacz, Labowa, Rzeszow/Austria: Wein/ Sweden, USA DANZYGERs - Nowy Sacz / maybe Tarnow TRAURIG: Nowy Sacz, Labowa/ NYC /Haifa (TOREN), Ma'agan Michael (LERECH) DERSIEWICZ or DERSHOWITZ: Nowy Sacz, Labowa, Tarnow, USA DEUTELBAUM: Nowy Sacz, Krakow, Tarnow/ NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obits Look-ups, Please -- HELLER, Bronx NY
#general
Rachel Heller Bernstein <natrab@...>
Shalom,
I am researching the Heller family and have come across 2 men named Israel Heller, who were born with-in 2-3 yrs of each other and died with-in 2 yrs of each other: One died aged 77 on 5 Jun 1943 in Bronx, NY. The other died aged 80 on 22 Feb 1945, also in Bronx, NY. I would appreciate any obits, to help determine which Israel Heller was the husband of Mary and the father of Gussie & Frieda. My next step would be to order a copy of his death record, where hopefully, his parents' names might be listed and it might also reveal where he is buried. Thanks, Rachel Heller Bernstein, Yerushalayim Researching: HELLER: Krakow (Kazimierz), Tarnow/ USA FREY: Poland: Nowy Sacz, Labowa, Rzeszow/Austria: Wein/ Sweden, USA DANZYGERs - Nowy Sacz / maybe Tarnow TRAURIG: Nowy Sacz, Labowa/ NYC /Haifa (TOREN), Ma'agan Michael (LERECH) DERSIEWICZ or DERSHOWITZ: Nowy Sacz, Labowa, Tarnow, USA DEUTELBAUM: Nowy Sacz, Krakow, Tarnow/ NY
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Re: Hebrew Translation Question
#general
Twilite Motel <twilitemotel@...>
Happen to see the discussion and thought that maybe someone can help
me with the same question. My grandfather is buried in Budapest in the Orthodox cemetery. Only his mother's name is on the grave and I always wondered about it. I have been there and saw the grave, I also know the name of his father (my g-g-father) so I am sure that the father's name is not mentioned. Does anyone have an explanation. Thanks Ariela Zucker
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew Translation Question
#general
Twilite Motel <twilitemotel@...>
Happen to see the discussion and thought that maybe someone can help
me with the same question. My grandfather is buried in Budapest in the Orthodox cemetery. Only his mother's name is on the grave and I always wondered about it. I have been there and saw the grave, I also know the name of his father (my g-g-father) so I am sure that the father's name is not mentioned. Does anyone have an explanation. Thanks Ariela Zucker
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Viewmate cemetery map (town "Hotti, Bessarabia"?) - translation from Yiddish
#general
Joseph Lonstein
Dear all,
At an estate sale, I recently purchased a cloth map of a Jewish cemetery, but have no idea where the cemetery is located. A few dozen graves are indicated on it with burials dating >from 1898 through the late 1920s. I hope the text at the top of the cloth shown in Viewmate 27581 (http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=27581) will reveal the location of this cemetery. One wonderful Genner already responded to suggest it's a place named Hott or Hotti in Bessarabia. I cannot readily find online or in the JG Gazetteer a town clearly named this - any suggestions? There is a county "Hodin" in former Bessarabia and within it a town "Khotyn". Once the place is identified I'd be happy to send this map to anyone with a connection to the town indicated. Thanks, Joe Lonstein East Lansing, MI USA MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate cemetery map (town "Hotti, Bessarabia"?) - translation from Yiddish
#general
Joseph Lonstein
Dear all,
At an estate sale, I recently purchased a cloth map of a Jewish cemetery, but have no idea where the cemetery is located. A few dozen graves are indicated on it with burials dating >from 1898 through the late 1920s. I hope the text at the top of the cloth shown in Viewmate 27581 (http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=27581) will reveal the location of this cemetery. One wonderful Genner already responded to suggest it's a place named Hott or Hotti in Bessarabia. I cannot readily find online or in the JG Gazetteer a town clearly named this - any suggestions? There is a county "Hodin" in former Bessarabia and within it a town "Khotyn". Once the place is identified I'd be happy to send this map to anyone with a connection to the town indicated. Thanks, Joe Lonstein East Lansing, MI USA MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
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Re: New to DNA Testing
#dna
rayvenna@...
As a follow up to this, the closest Y-DNA match I've seen to date in
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my research is an exact 37 out of 37 match. After e-mailing the person, I suspect the most recent common ancestor was just before the Expulsion >from Spain in 1492, since the match was with a man of Mexican-American descent (been in the Americas >6 generations) and was known to be descended >from Spanish colonists. My people, on the other hand, were in Lithuania 6 generations ago, with one branch having an oral history of having been a part of the Spanish Expulsion. If you're looking for a match within 4 generations, you need an autosomal test such as the FTDNA Family Finder test. I agree with Sam that matches predicting a 2nd cousin or closer match are the ones worth perusing. I've tested eight known relatives >from different branches of the family I'm researching; the FamilyFinder matches seem to predict a slightly closer relationship than the people actually are. Mindie Kaplan Montgomery Village, MD
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From: "Sam" <Samat773@...> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:37:32 AM Rochelle, For near term ancestry Y-DNA is the wrong test. You need the FTDNA family finder test which can be run on either sex. There's no guarantee of useful results ; it all depends on who's been tested. It would take a degree of chromosome matching predicting a second cousin relationship to be useful at the g grandfather level if there's no surname match. Sam Gelfand Lewiston NY -----Original Message----- From: "Rochelle P. Gershenow" <rpgersh@...> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 07:17:11 -0400 My male cousin did the Y-DNA (67) test. (I am the genealogist so am the one doing the followups.) He receives notices that he matches 12 out of 12 or occasionally matches with a 25. When I look at the TIP for matching individuals the percentage for a possible match within 4 generations is quite low, and none of them have the same last name as our family for them or their ancestors. My own information on our family extends back to our mutual great grandfather. Does it make any sense to contact some of these people? If not, do I just sit back and wait for a match at a higher level?
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DNA Research #DNA Re: New to DNA Testing
#dna
rayvenna@...
As a follow up to this, the closest Y-DNA match I've seen to date in
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my research is an exact 37 out of 37 match. After e-mailing the person, I suspect the most recent common ancestor was just before the Expulsion >from Spain in 1492, since the match was with a man of Mexican-American descent (been in the Americas >6 generations) and was known to be descended >from Spanish colonists. My people, on the other hand, were in Lithuania 6 generations ago, with one branch having an oral history of having been a part of the Spanish Expulsion. If you're looking for a match within 4 generations, you need an autosomal test such as the FTDNA Family Finder test. I agree with Sam that matches predicting a 2nd cousin or closer match are the ones worth perusing. I've tested eight known relatives >from different branches of the family I'm researching; the FamilyFinder matches seem to predict a slightly closer relationship than the people actually are. Mindie Kaplan Montgomery Village, MD
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From: "Sam" <Samat773@...> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:37:32 AM Rochelle, For near term ancestry Y-DNA is the wrong test. You need the FTDNA family finder test which can be run on either sex. There's no guarantee of useful results ; it all depends on who's been tested. It would take a degree of chromosome matching predicting a second cousin relationship to be useful at the g grandfather level if there's no surname match. Sam Gelfand Lewiston NY -----Original Message----- From: "Rochelle P. Gershenow" <rpgersh@...> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 07:17:11 -0400 My male cousin did the Y-DNA (67) test. (I am the genealogist so am the one doing the followups.) He receives notices that he matches 12 out of 12 or occasionally matches with a 25. When I look at the TIP for matching individuals the percentage for a possible match within 4 generations is quite low, and none of them have the same last name as our family for them or their ancestors. My own information on our family extends back to our mutual great grandfather. Does it make any sense to contact some of these people? If not, do I just sit back and wait for a match at a higher level?
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Surviving Torahs
#poland
Siddy Rosenberg <siddyr@...>
In response to Fred Huss' posting on June 5:
"Does anyone know of a database or list of Torah scrolls that survived from the towns and shtetls across Galicia?"I personally don't know where the Torahs are >from but the Union for Reform Judaism gave Torahs that survived the Holocaust to the Reform congregations throughout the US and possible other places. My congregation has 2 such Torahs. I suggest contacting the URJ to see if they can help you. Siddy Rosenberg Louisville, KY
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JRI Poland #Poland Surviving Torahs
#poland
Siddy Rosenberg <siddyr@...>
In response to Fred Huss' posting on June 5:
"Does anyone know of a database or list of Torah scrolls that survived from the towns and shtetls across Galicia?"I personally don't know where the Torahs are >from but the Union for Reform Judaism gave Torahs that survived the Holocaust to the Reform congregations throughout the US and possible other places. My congregation has 2 such Torahs. I suggest contacting the URJ to see if they can help you. Siddy Rosenberg Louisville, KY
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Re: Insight Regarding Levite HALPERNs?
#rabbinic
Yonatan Ben-Ari
I have read, included in this forum, that many Rabbis (and others) who
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married into famous Rabbinical families adopted the family names of their in-laws, and thus creating same name but different tribal descendancy. Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...> wrote:
Over the years, I have developed an interest in the interconnection of the
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Insight Regarding Levite HALPERNs?
#rabbinic
Yonatan Ben-Ari
I have read, included in this forum, that many Rabbis (and others) who
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married into famous Rabbinical families adopted the family names of their in-laws, and thus creating same name but different tribal descendancy. Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...> wrote:
Over the years, I have developed an interest in the interconnection of the
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
#poland
Ofer Manela
Dear All,
I've posted two vital records in Polish for which I need a loose translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27551 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27552 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much, Ofer Manela Petach-Tikva Researching: MANELA Everywhere LANDAU/LANDA Szczekociny, Piotrkow Trybunalski, Rozprza, New-York City ROZENBERG, RATHAJZER, PANSKI Szczekociny LINDNER/LONDNER Szczekociny, Zarnowiec, Koniecpol LEWI Koniecpol KLIN/KLEIN, TIMBERG Chrzanow, Krakow KALISH, KON, KUTAS Lodz, Strykow, Brzeziny, Zgierz ALTMAN, LANDSMAN/LANCMAN, DAJCMAN, BESSER Czestochowa, Przyrow, Klobuck GOLOVENCIC/GOLOVENTZIC Everywhere BODENSHTEIN, GROSS New-York, Gorlice, Ropa AGASSI Bagdad ORENSHTEIN, PRASZKER Opatow YERUSHALIMSKI Poland, Jerusalem
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JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Polish
#poland
Ofer Manela
Dear All,
I've posted two vital records in Polish for which I need a loose translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27551 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27552 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much, Ofer Manela Petach-Tikva Researching: MANELA Everywhere LANDAU/LANDA Szczekociny, Piotrkow Trybunalski, Rozprza, New-York City ROZENBERG, RATHAJZER, PANSKI Szczekociny LINDNER/LONDNER Szczekociny, Zarnowiec, Koniecpol LEWI Koniecpol KLIN/KLEIN, TIMBERG Chrzanow, Krakow KALISH, KON, KUTAS Lodz, Strykow, Brzeziny, Zgierz ALTMAN, LANDSMAN/LANCMAN, DAJCMAN, BESSER Czestochowa, Przyrow, Klobuck GOLOVENCIC/GOLOVENTZIC Everywhere BODENSHTEIN, GROSS New-York, Gorlice, Ropa AGASSI Bagdad ORENSHTEIN, PRASZKER Opatow YERUSHALIMSKI Poland, Jerusalem
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Viewmate translation-Russian
#poland
Jessie Klein
Hi-I have posted four vital records in Russian for which I would
appreciate loose translations including names, dates, towns and occupations if given. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27584 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27585 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27586 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27587 Please respond via the form provided in the Viewmate application. Thank you, Jessie Klein Acton MA
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JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate translation-Russian
#poland
Jessie Klein
Hi-I have posted four vital records in Russian for which I would
appreciate loose translations including names, dates, towns and occupations if given. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27584 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27585 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27586 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27587 Please respond via the form provided in the Viewmate application. Thank you, Jessie Klein Acton MA
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Property in Kiev
#ukraine
egoryunov@...
Greetings.
My grandmother just remembered that her grandfather owned some land in Kiev. Is there an archive that stores this information? Thanks. Eugene Goryunov Chicago, IL USA Researching (most >from the Ukraine): Goryunov, Vorobyov, Garanin Isod, Peisakhin Kleyman, Shifris, Yelskiy Volodarsky, Lyubomsky Skvirsky, Sheikhet Khaskin, Kotlyar, Gorohovsky, Medovar
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Property in Kiev
#ukraine
egoryunov@...
Greetings.
My grandmother just remembered that her grandfather owned some land in Kiev. Is there an archive that stores this information? Thanks. Eugene Goryunov Chicago, IL USA Researching (most >from the Ukraine): Goryunov, Vorobyov, Garanin Isod, Peisakhin Kleyman, Shifris, Yelskiy Volodarsky, Lyubomsky Skvirsky, Sheikhet Khaskin, Kotlyar, Gorohovsky, Medovar
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