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Jonava and Trakai #general

Fred Millner <flmillner@...>
 

Hi, all,
I am in the middle of a two-week trip to the Baltic States. I will be in
Lithuania by the end of this week and am planning on spending a morning in
Jonava, the Milner family home town. There are no specific places I want to
visit. The cemetery does not list any Milners. It suddenly struck me that
some of you may have personal contacts in Jonava who I could meet and greet.
I did not do my homework before I left so I don't have Judy Baston's email
address. Or Peggy's. please remind me who did the Jonava census work and
how to contact them!
I really feel that I am about to come home! Any ideas? Thanks!
Fred Millner

MODERATOR NOTE: private responses please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jonava and Trakai #general

Fred Millner <flmillner@...>
 

Hi, all,
I am in the middle of a two-week trip to the Baltic States. I will be in
Lithuania by the end of this week and am planning on spending a morning in
Jonava, the Milner family home town. There are no specific places I want to
visit. The cemetery does not list any Milners. It suddenly struck me that
some of you may have personal contacts in Jonava who I could meet and greet.
I did not do my homework before I left so I don't have Judy Baston's email
address. Or Peggy's. please remind me who did the Jonava census work and
how to contact them!
I really feel that I am about to come home! Any ideas? Thanks!
Fred Millner

MODERATOR NOTE: private responses please


Descendents of Joseph Samuels #galicia

Arlene Beare
 

I am looking for the descendants of Joseph Samuels. In the 1891
England census he gives his place of origin as Lochlin. This may be
Zyechlin incorrectly written down by the clerk. He lived in East End of
London, married a Dora Dembinski, and had 11 children named Rose,
Ada, Susan, Sarah, Israel, Annie, Eva, Louis, Abraham, Phillip and
Rebecca.

His brother Benjamin gives his place of origin in 1911 as Krakow so
I do not know where they originated as they may have been born in
one place and then moved somewhere else.

If anyone recognises any of these names I would really appreciate
hearing >from you.

Arlene Beare
UK
Researching
Dorfman - Birzai Lithuania and Riga Latvia.
Blum and Sher - Pandelys Lithuania and Riga Latvia.
Berman - Lygumai Lithuania and Jekabpils Latvia.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Descendents of Joseph Samuels #galicia

Arlene Beare
 

I am looking for the descendants of Joseph Samuels. In the 1891
England census he gives his place of origin as Lochlin. This may be
Zyechlin incorrectly written down by the clerk. He lived in East End of
London, married a Dora Dembinski, and had 11 children named Rose,
Ada, Susan, Sarah, Israel, Annie, Eva, Louis, Abraham, Phillip and
Rebecca.

His brother Benjamin gives his place of origin in 1911 as Krakow so
I do not know where they originated as they may have been born in
one place and then moved somewhere else.

If anyone recognises any of these names I would really appreciate
hearing >from you.

Arlene Beare
UK
Researching
Dorfman - Birzai Lithuania and Riga Latvia.
Blum and Sher - Pandelys Lithuania and Riga Latvia.
Berman - Lygumai Lithuania and Jekabpils Latvia.


Re: Usefulness of DNA testing in genealogy #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Marianne Handler asked about the usefulness of DNA testing in genealogy
based on a Telegraph article. If you only looked at the results >from your
test alone, the article is right. For that reason, I would not take any
autosomal testing because I believed the results would not answer any of
the questions that I have. However, I did ordered a test kit for someone
else because it may answer something for that person. Looking at the
results >from any test, one get a series of values that are meaningless by
themselves. For example what does one's blood pressure values mean unless
you are comparing them to some standard. However, there are no standard
values for the results >from any genealogy DNA testing. What one should do
is to use the results as a starting point for more research. If the
results are >from Y or mtDNA testing, an excellent way of starting is to
join the proper haplogroup project(s). (I am a member of 4 Y-haplogroups
projects, J, J2, J2b and J2b_455-8.) FamilyTreeDNA is an excellent place
to find them and for a small fee, one can transfer your information from
other companies to them. By looking at others in the projects, you can
get better time estimates of your common ancestors. For example, I am one
marker off on 37 markers to person X. By using everyone in one haplogroup
project, I discovered that my mutation happened about 600 years ago.
Therefore X would not be very useful for my genealogy. For Ms. Handler's
brother, my suggestion would be the Y-testing at FamilyTreeDNA. This is
because half of his autosomal DNA is the same as her and the results will
show that they match on about 75% of it. (In the upcoming issue of
Avotaynu, I tried to explained to their readers why this is the case.)

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA


Descendants of Jacob Isaac RABINOWICZ #rabbinic

Tom Brodersen <tbrodersen@...>
 

My wife Nina C. Perlmutter is a descendant of Jacob Isaac RABINOWICZ
( the Yid Hakodesh, Holy Jew) but we are missing links in the chain
beyond her great-grandparents Nathan Finkelstein & Feigele ? b.
approx. 1868-1878. Any help would be appreciated.

Tom Brodersen
aka Uriel ben Avraham


DNA Research #DNA Re: Usefulness of DNA testing in genealogy #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Marianne Handler asked about the usefulness of DNA testing in genealogy
based on a Telegraph article. If you only looked at the results >from your
test alone, the article is right. For that reason, I would not take any
autosomal testing because I believed the results would not answer any of
the questions that I have. However, I did ordered a test kit for someone
else because it may answer something for that person. Looking at the
results >from any test, one get a series of values that are meaningless by
themselves. For example what does one's blood pressure values mean unless
you are comparing them to some standard. However, there are no standard
values for the results >from any genealogy DNA testing. What one should do
is to use the results as a starting point for more research. If the
results are >from Y or mtDNA testing, an excellent way of starting is to
join the proper haplogroup project(s). (I am a member of 4 Y-haplogroups
projects, J, J2, J2b and J2b_455-8.) FamilyTreeDNA is an excellent place
to find them and for a small fee, one can transfer your information from
other companies to them. By looking at others in the projects, you can
get better time estimates of your common ancestors. For example, I am one
marker off on 37 markers to person X. By using everyone in one haplogroup
project, I discovered that my mutation happened about 600 years ago.
Therefore X would not be very useful for my genealogy. For Ms. Handler's
brother, my suggestion would be the Y-testing at FamilyTreeDNA. This is
because half of his autosomal DNA is the same as her and the results will
show that they match on about 75% of it. (In the upcoming issue of
Avotaynu, I tried to explained to their readers why this is the case.)

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Descendants of Jacob Isaac RABINOWICZ #rabbinic

Tom Brodersen <tbrodersen@...>
 

My wife Nina C. Perlmutter is a descendant of Jacob Isaac RABINOWICZ
( the Yid Hakodesh, Holy Jew) but we are missing links in the chain
beyond her great-grandparents Nathan Finkelstein & Feigele ? b.
approx. 1868-1878. Any help would be appreciated.

Tom Brodersen
aka Uriel ben Avraham


Riglitz Rov Z"L #rabbinic

shimonsporn
 

On behalf of a family I am looking for any information on a
Rabbi of Riglitz (Ryglice, Galicia Poland) who was married to a
Sarah Schreibtafel. They had two daughters Chana and Baila.

thank you

Shimon Sporn
Ramat Beit Shamesh
shimonsporn@yahoo.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Riglitz Rov Z"L #rabbinic

shimonsporn
 

On behalf of a family I am looking for any information on a
Rabbi of Riglitz (Ryglice, Galicia Poland) who was married to a
Sarah Schreibtafel. They had two daughters Chana and Baila.

thank you

Shimon Sporn
Ramat Beit Shamesh
shimonsporn@yahoo.com


Help Requested: Deciphering Chelm Land document & translation #poland

Paula & David
 

Hello, I am a relative novice genealogist, who "lucked out" when I
found a document listing land owners in Chelm before WWII. I found
this document at: www.jewish-chelm.org/sites/default/files/pdf.
This is the Chlemer Organization of Israel website.

On page 13 of this document are the names of my maternal GGF, and one
of his sons. , the family last name is FLAKSMAN, first names Sani and
Hersc (or Hersz). They can be found next to number 15a in the second
column. I do not recognize the third name with theirs as a family
member. though, he might have married into the family.

On page 11 of the document is also a listing for a Herc(z?) Flacksman
(different last name spelling) at number 148 in the second column. I
am not sure if the latter is a mis-spelling, or the same person in the
first page.

Can anyone help me understand the writing at the top of the columns, and
how that might enable me to locate where this land is located?
My mother, who came to the US as a very young girl, recalled staying in
the 1920's on the "farm" of her grandfather while waiting for her
father to bring the family to the US, so locating this is very
meaningful to me. (Though I do realize it is likely no longer a farm).

Thanks very much for any help or suggestions on how I might proceed to
decipher this.

Paula Solomon, Boston, MA area--hoping to meet some of you at the
conference next month!

researching: FLAKSMAN, Chelm, Swierze, and possibly Warsaw, Poland,
WAXMAN, Chelm, Poland and Kamen, Belorus.
also SHULMAN, (probably) Swierze.


JRI Poland #Poland Help Requested: Deciphering Chelm Land document & translation #poland

Paula & David
 

Hello, I am a relative novice genealogist, who "lucked out" when I
found a document listing land owners in Chelm before WWII. I found
this document at: www.jewish-chelm.org/sites/default/files/pdf.
This is the Chlemer Organization of Israel website.

On page 13 of this document are the names of my maternal GGF, and one
of his sons. , the family last name is FLAKSMAN, first names Sani and
Hersc (or Hersz). They can be found next to number 15a in the second
column. I do not recognize the third name with theirs as a family
member. though, he might have married into the family.

On page 11 of the document is also a listing for a Herc(z?) Flacksman
(different last name spelling) at number 148 in the second column. I
am not sure if the latter is a mis-spelling, or the same person in the
first page.

Can anyone help me understand the writing at the top of the columns, and
how that might enable me to locate where this land is located?
My mother, who came to the US as a very young girl, recalled staying in
the 1920's on the "farm" of her grandfather while waiting for her
father to bring the family to the US, so locating this is very
meaningful to me. (Though I do realize it is likely no longer a farm).

Thanks very much for any help or suggestions on how I might proceed to
decipher this.

Paula Solomon, Boston, MA area--hoping to meet some of you at the
conference next month!

researching: FLAKSMAN, Chelm, Swierze, and possibly Warsaw, Poland,
WAXMAN, Chelm, Poland and Kamen, Belorus.
also SHULMAN, (probably) Swierze.


ViewMate Translation Request #poland

Miriam Lappen
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a direct translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27839.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Miriam Lappen
West Hartford, CT/USA

PEDRO Szrensk/Drobin Poland
GELBORT Goworowo/Ostrow Mazowiecka Poland
BLUMENKRANC Ostrow Mazowiecka Poland/Buenos Aires Argentina


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Request #poland

Miriam Lappen
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a direct translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27839.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Miriam Lappen
West Hartford, CT/USA

PEDRO Szrensk/Drobin Poland
GELBORT Goworowo/Ostrow Mazowiecka Poland
BLUMENKRANC Ostrow Mazowiecka Poland/Buenos Aires Argentina


"Mi'yarkete Tsafon" ("From the Ends of the Earth") - memoirs of Gitta Langleben-Klibansky #lithuania

Saul Issroff
 

I want to announce publication of a new book "Mi'yarkete Tsafon" (">from the
Ends of the Earth") - memoirs of Gitta Langleben-Klibansky (in
Hebrew). The book chronicles Gitta's expulsion >from Kovno a few days before
the Nazi invasion of Lithuania and her deportation to one of the most
northerly areas of Siberia at the Arctic Circle. The unique and
thrilling account illuminates aspects of the Second World War that are
generally unknown to typical readers and even to Holocaust researchers.

This book can be of interest to the LitvakSIG audience for the author's
vivid description of her life in a traditional family in Lithuania in
the 1920s and 1930s, her studies at the "Schwabbe" Hebrew Gymnasium in
Kovno, and the dramatic turn in her life as a result of the Soviet
occupation of Lithuania in 1940. In the appendix of her book, Gitta
added the memoirs of her late husband, which stretch >from his birth in
Keidan and his expulsion together with all the Kovno Gubernia Jews to
Russia in 1915 to his life in Lithuania in the interwar period. This
book (hard cover, 408 pp.) also contains two genealogical charts of
the families Langleben and Klibansky.

The book can be ordered >from Gitta's son, Ben-Tsion Klibansky, who
is also the editor of the book,, e-mail: bentsion@013.net

Saul Issroff

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is the one-time permissible annouincement of
a commercial product that is of interest to the readers of this list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Mi'yarkete Tsafon" ("From the Ends of the Earth") - memoirs of Gitta Langleben-Klibansky #lithuania

Saul Issroff
 

I want to announce publication of a new book "Mi'yarkete Tsafon" (">from the
Ends of the Earth") - memoirs of Gitta Langleben-Klibansky (in
Hebrew). The book chronicles Gitta's expulsion >from Kovno a few days before
the Nazi invasion of Lithuania and her deportation to one of the most
northerly areas of Siberia at the Arctic Circle. The unique and
thrilling account illuminates aspects of the Second World War that are
generally unknown to typical readers and even to Holocaust researchers.

This book can be of interest to the LitvakSIG audience for the author's
vivid description of her life in a traditional family in Lithuania in
the 1920s and 1930s, her studies at the "Schwabbe" Hebrew Gymnasium in
Kovno, and the dramatic turn in her life as a result of the Soviet
occupation of Lithuania in 1940. In the appendix of her book, Gitta
added the memoirs of her late husband, which stretch >from his birth in
Keidan and his expulsion together with all the Kovno Gubernia Jews to
Russia in 1915 to his life in Lithuania in the interwar period. This
book (hard cover, 408 pp.) also contains two genealogical charts of
the families Langleben and Klibansky.

The book can be ordered >from Gitta's son, Ben-Tsion Klibansky, who
is also the editor of the book,, e-mail: bentsion@013.net

Saul Issroff

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is the one-time permissible annouincement of
a commercial product that is of interest to the readers of this list.


Elections have opened ! #lithuania

ralph <Salinger@...>
 

If you are a paid up member of LitvakSIG you should have received your
paper today via e-mail.

If you are a member and have not received a ballot, please contact me
privately.

Thank you for taking part in the Election.

Ralph Salinger
On behalf of the Election Committee


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Elections have opened ! #lithuania

ralph <Salinger@...>
 

If you are a paid up member of LitvakSIG you should have received your
paper today via e-mail.

If you are a member and have not received a ballot, please contact me
privately.

Thank you for taking part in the Election.

Ralph Salinger
On behalf of the Election Committee


Bagaslaviskis 1907 Family List (Sirvintos region of Vilnius District) #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Bagaslaviskis is a village in the Sirvintos region of Lithuania.
For most of modern history, it was part of the Vilnius District,
but between World War I and World War II (when Lithuania was independent,
but Vilnius was part of Poland) Bagalslaviskis was part of the Ukmerge
District.

The Vilnius DRG and the Ukmerge DRG have translated the 1907 Family List
for Bagaslaviskis.

There are over 4,100 individuals on this list. Because it is a Family
List, it was updated until 1915 (the year that Vilnius was occupied by
Germans before becoming part of Poland in 1919). The oldest person on
the list was born in 1815.

The 1907 Family List for Bagaslaviskis is available immediately to
anyone who has made a qualifying donation to either the Vilnius DRG or
the Ukmerge DRG in the last five years. Log on to your District
Research Group Shutterfly site to download the file.

If you are not a donor to either group, but would like a translation of
the list, you can make a qualifying donation (US$100) on the LitvakSIG
website at:
http://litvaksig.org/contribute
You should choose either the Vilnius DRG OR the Ukmerge DRG for your
donation, depending on the other information that you have about your
family.

Please let us know if you have any questions. The list of surnames
mentioned in this list is at the end of this message.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
peggyf@mindspring.com
Coordinator, Vilnius District Research Group

Roy Ogus
r_ogus@hotmail.com
Coordinator, Ukmerge District Research Group

SURNAMES IN THE 1907 FAMILY LIST FOR BAGASLAVISKIS
ANDIMAN
ANDREIUNAS
BAIKOVICH
BAITLER
BANK
BARILKO
BEKER
BERZAK
BLINDER
BRANDVAIN
BRANDVIAN
BRONZNIK
BURSHTEIN
BURSHTEIN aka ORLIN
DECINIK
DIMENSHTEIN
DUSHANSKI
EINGOR
EPSHTEIN
ERMAN aka GERMAN
FEIGLIN
FELDBLIUM
FELDMAN
FENSTER
FENTSTER
FRIDBERG
GALPERN
GAMERNE
GARBER
GEFEN
GELFER
GELGISER
GENDLER
GERMAN
GINGOLD
GIRSHOVICH
GODES
GOFEN
GOLDSHTEIN
GOLOMB
GORFAIN
GRANDZIDSKI
GRANDZITSKI
GUDEISKI
GUTMAN
IAKOBSON
IAKONMAN / IAKONSON
IAKOPMAN
IAKOPSON
IAKUBSON
IESHUR
ISERELIS
ISORELIS
ITKIN
IURBERG
KAGAN
KAHIDOVICH
KAPLAN
KATSENELENBOGEN
KENSKI
KHAIDOVICH
KHAIET
KHINGER
KHVOLES
KINIKSON
KLAZ
KOLTUN
KOPELOVSKI
KUZHENEVSKI
LANTSENOVSKI
LANTSMAN
LANTSMAN aka NURKO
LEVIN
LEVINSON
LIFSHITS
LIPSHITS
LONDON
LURIE
MEKLER
MUSNITSKI
NURKO
ODLE
ORLIN
ORVIN
PATS
PATS - LUCHINSKI
PEREL
PERL
PIK
PLIMP
PRALNIK
REIZENFELD
REZNIK
RIMAN
ROZANSKI
ROZEN
SADEVICH
SAKOV
SAMOSKI
SANDLER
SARABSKI
SARANSKI
SEGAL
SEMIAVICH
SEMIAVICH aka SADEVICH
SHAPIRE
SHAPIRO
SHEMIAVICH
SHIFRE
SHIMIAVICH
SHMIDT
SHMUKLER
SHPITALNIK
SIAMIAVICH
SIAMIAVICH aka SADEVICH
SIMIAVICH
SITNIK
SORENZON
SOREZON
SUNTOTSKI
SURVILO
TAINOVICH
TEINOVICH
TEPER
TEVEL
TILES
TROTSKI aka MUSNITSKI
TSIGAN
TSINZOR
UPNIK
URMAN
VAGEKHSHTEIN
VAISBERG
VAKSER
VERBEINIKOV
VERBLOVSKI
VEREBEINIKOV
VIGUSHIN
ZAIDMAN
ZARKHI
ZHIRNOVSKI
ZHIRNOVSKII
ZILB
ZILBER
ZILBERMAN
ZIRNOVSKI
ZONSHAIN
ZUNDELEVICH
ZVENIGORODSKI


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Bagaslaviskis 1907 Family List (Sirvintos region of Vilnius District) #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Bagaslaviskis is a village in the Sirvintos region of Lithuania.
For most of modern history, it was part of the Vilnius District,
but between World War I and World War II (when Lithuania was independent,
but Vilnius was part of Poland) Bagalslaviskis was part of the Ukmerge
District.

The Vilnius DRG and the Ukmerge DRG have translated the 1907 Family List
for Bagaslaviskis.

There are over 4,100 individuals on this list. Because it is a Family
List, it was updated until 1915 (the year that Vilnius was occupied by
Germans before becoming part of Poland in 1919). The oldest person on
the list was born in 1815.

The 1907 Family List for Bagaslaviskis is available immediately to
anyone who has made a qualifying donation to either the Vilnius DRG or
the Ukmerge DRG in the last five years. Log on to your District
Research Group Shutterfly site to download the file.

If you are not a donor to either group, but would like a translation of
the list, you can make a qualifying donation (US$100) on the LitvakSIG
website at:
http://litvaksig.org/contribute
You should choose either the Vilnius DRG OR the Ukmerge DRG for your
donation, depending on the other information that you have about your
family.

Please let us know if you have any questions. The list of surnames
mentioned in this list is at the end of this message.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
peggyf@mindspring.com
Coordinator, Vilnius District Research Group

Roy Ogus
r_ogus@hotmail.com
Coordinator, Ukmerge District Research Group

SURNAMES IN THE 1907 FAMILY LIST FOR BAGASLAVISKIS
ANDIMAN
ANDREIUNAS
BAIKOVICH
BAITLER
BANK
BARILKO
BEKER
BERZAK
BLINDER
BRANDVAIN
BRANDVIAN
BRONZNIK
BURSHTEIN
BURSHTEIN aka ORLIN
DECINIK
DIMENSHTEIN
DUSHANSKI
EINGOR
EPSHTEIN
ERMAN aka GERMAN
FEIGLIN
FELDBLIUM
FELDMAN
FENSTER
FENTSTER
FRIDBERG
GALPERN
GAMERNE
GARBER
GEFEN
GELFER
GELGISER
GENDLER
GERMAN
GINGOLD
GIRSHOVICH
GODES
GOFEN
GOLDSHTEIN
GOLOMB
GORFAIN
GRANDZIDSKI
GRANDZITSKI
GUDEISKI
GUTMAN
IAKOBSON
IAKONMAN / IAKONSON
IAKOPMAN
IAKOPSON
IAKUBSON
IESHUR
ISERELIS
ISORELIS
ITKIN
IURBERG
KAGAN
KAHIDOVICH
KAPLAN
KATSENELENBOGEN
KENSKI
KHAIDOVICH
KHAIET
KHINGER
KHVOLES
KINIKSON
KLAZ
KOLTUN
KOPELOVSKI
KUZHENEVSKI
LANTSENOVSKI
LANTSMAN
LANTSMAN aka NURKO
LEVIN
LEVINSON
LIFSHITS
LIPSHITS
LONDON
LURIE
MEKLER
MUSNITSKI
NURKO
ODLE
ORLIN
ORVIN
PATS
PATS - LUCHINSKI
PEREL
PERL
PIK
PLIMP
PRALNIK
REIZENFELD
REZNIK
RIMAN
ROZANSKI
ROZEN
SADEVICH
SAKOV
SAMOSKI
SANDLER
SARABSKI
SARANSKI
SEGAL
SEMIAVICH
SEMIAVICH aka SADEVICH
SHAPIRE
SHAPIRO
SHEMIAVICH
SHIFRE
SHIMIAVICH
SHMIDT
SHMUKLER
SHPITALNIK
SIAMIAVICH
SIAMIAVICH aka SADEVICH
SIMIAVICH
SITNIK
SORENZON
SOREZON
SUNTOTSKI
SURVILO
TAINOVICH
TEINOVICH
TEPER
TEVEL
TILES
TROTSKI aka MUSNITSKI
TSIGAN
TSINZOR
UPNIK
URMAN
VAGEKHSHTEIN
VAISBERG
VAKSER
VERBEINIKOV
VERBLOVSKI
VEREBEINIKOV
VIGUSHIN
ZAIDMAN
ZARKHI
ZHIRNOVSKI
ZHIRNOVSKII
ZILB
ZILBER
ZILBERMAN
ZIRNOVSKI
ZONSHAIN
ZUNDELEVICH
ZVENIGORODSKI

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