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Re: Ashkenazim naming children for living people #general

joyweave
 

One suggestion I haven’t seen in response to the question of naming an
Ashkenazi child for a living relative is the possibility that the child was
name for a deceased relative on the other side of the family. I have seen
at least one instance in which this happened.

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ashkenazim naming children for living people #general

joyweave
 

One suggestion I haven’t seen in response to the question of naming an
Ashkenazi child for a living relative is the possibility that the child was
name for a deceased relative on the other side of the family. I have seen
at least one instance in which this happened.

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA


Re: Ashkenazim naming children for living people #general

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

The given name "Gur Aryeh" (cub of the lion) is quite rare, and it is
family lore that anyone with that name is related to me via my
Horenstein ancestry. That turns out to be generally true - with rare
exceptions.

In tracing that lineage to the first Gur Aryeh, the earliest I have
found was born in 1792 (1851 Aleksandriya, Rovno uezd census).

When I try to find an earlier origin to that name, the obvious candidate
is his grandfather, R. Aryeh Yehudah Leib, AB"D of Ludmir, born in 1741.

However, according to Biber (Mazkeret LeGedolei Ostroha), Aryeh Yehdudah
Leib signed a document in 5567 etween 1806 and 1807; thus he was
alive when Gur Aryeh was born in 1792.

Both names are derived >from the Book of Genesis (Genesis 49:9): The
patriarch Jacob blesses his son Judah, referring to him as a lion's cub,
with the words: "Gur aryeh Yehuda." ("Judah [is] [the] cub of [the]
lion.")

Would an Ashkenazic Jewish family have named a child after a living
ancestor by changing the name (i.e. >from Aryeh Yehuda Leib to Gur Aryeh)
so that his name was *different* than that of the ancestor?

I don't think we have any way of knowing the answer with certainty, but
would appreciate any thoughts.

Mel Werbach
Los Angeles

Researching:
VERBUKH, HORENSTEIN, KANFER, KOMISAR, KORENBLIT >from Volhynia, Podolia
and Kiev guberniyas, Ukraine; AUZENBERG, RUBINSKI, LEWINOWSKI/
LUDWINOWSKI, ABRAMSKI, BRODOWICZ, SEJNENSKI >from Suwalki guberniya,
Poland; MISHURSKI, GOLDBERG, MENDELSON >from Kovne guberniya, Lithuania


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Ashkenazim naming children for living people #rabbinic

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

The given name "Gur Aryeh" (cub of the lion) is quite rare, and it is
family lore that anyone with that name is related to me via my
Horenstein ancestry. That turns out to be generally true - with rare
exceptions.

In tracing that lineage to the first Gur Aryeh, the earliest I have
found was born in 1792 (1851 Aleksandriya, Rovno uezd census).

When I try to find an earlier origin to that name, the obvious candidate
is his grandfather, R. Aryeh Yehudah Leib, AB"D of Ludmir, born in 1741.

However, according to Biber (Mazkeret LeGedolei Ostroha), Aryeh Yehdudah
Leib signed a document in 5567 etween 1806 and 1807; thus he was
alive when Gur Aryeh was born in 1792.

Both names are derived >from the Book of Genesis (Genesis 49:9): The
patriarch Jacob blesses his son Judah, referring to him as a lion's cub,
with the words: "Gur aryeh Yehuda." ("Judah [is] [the] cub of [the]
lion.")

Would an Ashkenazic Jewish family have named a child after a living
ancestor by changing the name (i.e. >from Aryeh Yehuda Leib to Gur Aryeh)
so that his name was *different* than that of the ancestor?

I don't think we have any way of knowing the answer with certainty, but
would appreciate any thoughts.

Mel Werbach
Los Angeles

Researching:
VERBUKH, HORENSTEIN, KANFER, KOMISAR, KORENBLIT >from Volhynia, Podolia
and Kiev guberniyas, Ukraine; AUZENBERG, RUBINSKI, LEWINOWSKI/
LUDWINOWSKI, ABRAMSKI, BRODOWICZ, SEJNENSKI >from Suwalki guberniya,
Poland; MISHURSKI, GOLDBERG, MENDELSON >from Kovne guberniya, Lithuania


Hungarian form #hungary

robertsles@...
 

I have a form that involves my grandfather (Adolph Schlesinger). I do not know what it is and have 2 questions about it.
1. Does anyone know what this form is and what it says.
2. The form mentions Somedi, which, as far as I know, is the town where my grandfather was from.Where was Somedi
located? Does it still exist and what it the current name?
Thanks

Robert Schlesinger

Moderator: You are more likely to find the information you want if you indicate what resources you have already consulted.
You should also upload the document you have to ViewMate.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian form #hungary

robertsles@...
 

I have a form that involves my grandfather (Adolph Schlesinger). I do not know what it is and have 2 questions about it.
1. Does anyone know what this form is and what it says.
2. The form mentions Somedi, which, as far as I know, is the town where my grandfather was from.Where was Somedi
located? Does it still exist and what it the current name?
Thanks

Robert Schlesinger

Moderator: You are more likely to find the information you want if you indicate what resources you have already consulted.
You should also upload the document you have to ViewMate.


Phoenix (Arizona) Jewish Genealogy Group meeting Sunday, November 6, 2016 #general

Emily Garber
 

The Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group will hold its monthly meeting this
coming Sunday, November 6th >from 1:00 - 3:00 PM in room 102 at the
Valley of the Sun Jewish Community Center, 12701 N. Scottsdale Road,
Scottsdale, AZ.

This month's meeting will be a mentoring session. Come prepared with
your documents and questions and we will work through them together.

Emily Garber
Chair, Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phoenix (Arizona) Jewish Genealogy Group meeting Sunday, November 6, 2016 #general

Emily Garber
 

The Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group will hold its monthly meeting this
coming Sunday, November 6th >from 1:00 - 3:00 PM in room 102 at the
Valley of the Sun Jewish Community Center, 12701 N. Scottsdale Road,
Scottsdale, AZ.

This month's meeting will be a mentoring session. Come prepared with
your documents and questions and we will work through them together.

Emily Garber
Chair, Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group


Re: Records of the town Korolovka #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

Unfortunately, the Jewish vital records for Korolowka have not survived.

I suggest you search the All Galicia Database, which contains some
landowner and other miscellaneous list for Korolowka.

Also search the JRI-Poland database for Town = Korolowka. This will give
you a long list of entries >from other towns where the town name of
Korolowka is referenced as a place of birth, a place of residence, or a
place where ancestors lived.

And lastly, JRI-Poland has indexed and placed online the School records
(secular) for Korolowka which covers children born >from 1894 through the
1930s. You will have to search the database by surname and
town=Korolowka to access these entries.

Here's hoping you find something of interest.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator
Gesher Galicia Advisory Board

David Nesher Adler <davidnead@gmail.com> wrote:

<<... I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently
in town Korolovka between the two world wars. How do I find out where
recorded and stored records of Korolovka at all and in particular in
those years?...>>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Records of the town Korolovka #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

Unfortunately, the Jewish vital records for Korolowka have not survived.

I suggest you search the All Galicia Database, which contains some
landowner and other miscellaneous list for Korolowka.

Also search the JRI-Poland database for Town = Korolowka. This will give
you a long list of entries >from other towns where the town name of
Korolowka is referenced as a place of birth, a place of residence, or a
place where ancestors lived.

And lastly, JRI-Poland has indexed and placed online the School records
(secular) for Korolowka which covers children born >from 1894 through the
1930s. You will have to search the database by surname and
town=Korolowka to access these entries.

Here's hoping you find something of interest.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator
Gesher Galicia Advisory Board

David Nesher Adler <davidnead@gmail.com> wrote:

<<... I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently
in town Korolovka between the two world wars. How do I find out where
recorded and stored records of Korolovka at all and in particular in
those years?...>>


Records of the town Korolovka #galicia

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone,

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance

David Nesher
Israel


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Records of the town Korolovka #galicia

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone,

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance

David Nesher
Israel


Re: Ivanogorod - Deblin/Demblin - Irena - Ryki - Bobrowniki Searches in Lublin Area #poland

Michael Shade
 

Scans of all BMD records for the Jewish communities of Bobrowniki and
Irena for the years 1869-1913 are available online >from the Polish State
Archives:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1615/0/3#tabJednostki

All records >from this period were kept in Russian, so if you can make
your way in written Russian you may be able to find what you're
looking for. I've just had a quick look through the indexes,
around the dates Susan has suggested, but I can't see any
Eberbuch births between 1880-1899. Maybe her birth was registered in one
of the other communities mentioned by Robinn.

One thing I did notice was a number of "batch" registrations,
where several children >from one family were registered at
one go. My own grandmother was registered here several years late. So
they may not necessarily be registered in their birth year. I have also
spotted a few Zylberberg births amongst these records - maybe the
marriage record is there too - Susan, do you know when Frajda and her
husband married? Or when the first child was born?

Another thought is that the interconnections Robinn mentions also extend
across the river >from Irena, to the towns of Gniewoszow and Granica,
which are in Radom province, so their records are in Radom Archives
rather than Lublin. Some of my Waksmans moved >from Gniewoszow to Irena,
and some to Lublin.

Best of luck in your search, Susan!

Michael

--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@michalska.net
http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel);
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin,
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena,
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki);
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London,
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London);
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)

On 31 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Robinn F Magid RobinnM@aol.com
<jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

Susan Welsh posted a great question on this digest. She wrote:

"I'm trying to find the birth certificate of my grandmother, Lieba
Eberbuch, and some of her siblings. She was born in Demblin/Deblin,
Poland, when it was known as Ivangorod, sometime circa 1885 - 1895. I
am also looking for the death certificate of her mother, Frajdla
(nee Zylberberg) Eberbuch who died around 1895, probably in the Lublin
area.
I haven't been able to locate these records. Does anyone have any
ideas
where else to search? I'm not sure records for this period were
stored."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Jewish Communities of Ivanogorod, Deblin/Demblin, Irena, Ryki and
Bobrowniki in the Lublin Area have a complicated and interwoven
recorded history which is too complicated to explain here, but the
place of civil registration for these communities appears to move
around these towns throughout the 19th century and a complete
exploration of any of these towns requires the complete exploration
of all of these towns.

JRI-Poland has several projects in process to extract the records for
these towns, and the projects are in varying stages of development,
depending on the number of volunteers and amount of donations we have
for these projects.

Please contact me, at RobinnM@aol.com for more detailed information
or to learn how you can help.

Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Lublin Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

RobinnM@aol.com


Records of the town Korolovka #poland

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance
David Nesher
Israel


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Ivanogorod - Deblin/Demblin - Irena - Ryki - Bobrowniki Searches in Lublin Area #poland

Michael Shade
 

Scans of all BMD records for the Jewish communities of Bobrowniki and
Irena for the years 1869-1913 are available online >from the Polish State
Archives:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1615/0/3#tabJednostki

All records >from this period were kept in Russian, so if you can make
your way in written Russian you may be able to find what you're
looking for. I've just had a quick look through the indexes,
around the dates Susan has suggested, but I can't see any
Eberbuch births between 1880-1899. Maybe her birth was registered in one
of the other communities mentioned by Robinn.

One thing I did notice was a number of "batch" registrations,
where several children >from one family were registered at
one go. My own grandmother was registered here several years late. So
they may not necessarily be registered in their birth year. I have also
spotted a few Zylberberg births amongst these records - maybe the
marriage record is there too - Susan, do you know when Frajda and her
husband married? Or when the first child was born?

Another thought is that the interconnections Robinn mentions also extend
across the river >from Irena, to the towns of Gniewoszow and Granica,
which are in Radom province, so their records are in Radom Archives
rather than Lublin. Some of my Waksmans moved >from Gniewoszow to Irena,
and some to Lublin.

Best of luck in your search, Susan!

Michael

--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@michalska.net
http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel);
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin,
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena,
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki);
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London,
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London);
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)

On 31 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Robinn F Magid RobinnM@aol.com
<jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

Susan Welsh posted a great question on this digest. She wrote:

"I'm trying to find the birth certificate of my grandmother, Lieba
Eberbuch, and some of her siblings. She was born in Demblin/Deblin,
Poland, when it was known as Ivangorod, sometime circa 1885 - 1895. I
am also looking for the death certificate of her mother, Frajdla
(nee Zylberberg) Eberbuch who died around 1895, probably in the Lublin
area.
I haven't been able to locate these records. Does anyone have any
ideas
where else to search? I'm not sure records for this period were
stored."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Jewish Communities of Ivanogorod, Deblin/Demblin, Irena, Ryki and
Bobrowniki in the Lublin Area have a complicated and interwoven
recorded history which is too complicated to explain here, but the
place of civil registration for these communities appears to move
around these towns throughout the 19th century and a complete
exploration of any of these towns requires the complete exploration
of all of these towns.

JRI-Poland has several projects in process to extract the records for
these towns, and the projects are in varying stages of development,
depending on the number of volunteers and amount of donations we have
for these projects.

Please contact me, at RobinnM@aol.com for more detailed information
or to learn how you can help.

Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Lublin Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

RobinnM@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland Records of the town Korolovka #poland

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance
David Nesher
Israel


(Canada) The Canadian Letters and Images Project #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Canadian Letters and Images Project is an online archive of the Canadian
war experience->from any war-as told through letters and images of Canadians
themselves. The project began in 2000 and is located in the Department of
History at Vancouver Island University (VIU). Contemporary letters, diaries
and photographs are digitized permitting Canadians to tell their story
through words and photographs. This is the largest such collection online in
Canada. As the materials are >from individuals it is not available anywhere
else. There are about 20,000 letters and growing.

A YouTube video about the project may be viewed at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0g2VFdYfIg

Because the documents are digitized the originals are not kept-they only
want to borrow any correspondence diaries, photographs or other personal
materials connected to Canadians at war, home front and battlefront. The
project will make arrangements-at their expense-to have any materials picked
up and returned by courier to ensure the safety of these materials. They
will digitize the materials in their entirety no editing of the materials.

To search the site go to: http://canadianletters.ca/search/site

If you are interested in sharing your family war memories of letters,
diaries etc. see: http://canadianletters.ca/content/about-us and scroll
down to the "contact us" portion. The materials have to be about Canadians,
but anyone, located outside of Canada as well as within Canada may
contribute the letters, diaries and other memorabilia.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Canada) The Canadian Letters and Images Project #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Canadian Letters and Images Project is an online archive of the Canadian
war experience->from any war-as told through letters and images of Canadians
themselves. The project began in 2000 and is located in the Department of
History at Vancouver Island University (VIU). Contemporary letters, diaries
and photographs are digitized permitting Canadians to tell their story
through words and photographs. This is the largest such collection online in
Canada. As the materials are >from individuals it is not available anywhere
else. There are about 20,000 letters and growing.

A YouTube video about the project may be viewed at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0g2VFdYfIg

Because the documents are digitized the originals are not kept-they only
want to borrow any correspondence diaries, photographs or other personal
materials connected to Canadians at war, home front and battlefront. The
project will make arrangements-at their expense-to have any materials picked
up and returned by courier to ensure the safety of these materials. They
will digitize the materials in their entirety no editing of the materials.

To search the site go to: http://canadianletters.ca/search/site

If you are interested in sharing your family war memories of letters,
diaries etc. see: http://canadianletters.ca/content/about-us and scroll
down to the "contact us" portion. The materials have to be about Canadians,
but anyone, located outside of Canada as well as within Canada may
contribute the letters, diaries and other memorabilia.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


(US) Library of Congress Redesigned Website Home Page #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The (US) Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, updated its
website home page on 1 November. The new home page will regularly change the
featured content. Currently their collection of over 6,000 photochrome
prints is featured. Got to: https://www.loc.gov/

They also have a "trending" section on the new home page and topics...the
one on far right as looking at the screen is genealogy. By clicking on
"genealogy" you are taken to their genealogy section : The Library of
Congress has one of the world's premier collections of U.S. and foreign
genealogical and local historical publications. The Library's genealogy
collection began as early as 1815 when Thomas Jefferson's library was
purchased.

To look at the listing of research centers at the Library of Congress go to:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) Library of Congress Redesigned Website Home Page #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The (US) Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, updated its
website home page on 1 November. The new home page will regularly change the
featured content. Currently their collection of over 6,000 photochrome
prints is featured. Got to: https://www.loc.gov/

They also have a "trending" section on the new home page and topics...the
one on far right as looking at the screen is genealogy. By clicking on
"genealogy" you are taken to their genealogy section : The Library of
Congress has one of the world's premier collections of U.S. and foreign
genealogical and local historical publications. The Library's genealogy
collection began as early as 1815 when Thomas Jefferson's library was
purchased.

To look at the listing of research centers at the Library of Congress go to:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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